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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 13, 2007, 05:38:39 PM
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Interview With Phil Jackson (http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/)
My only question walking out of practice Tuesday was $25,000 or $50,000. It’s hard to imagine how Phil Jackson doesn’t get fined for painting the picture of a league that has a ``vendetta’’ against Kobe Bryant and twice using the term ``witch hunt.’’
Jackson certainly had his feelings on the NBA’s decision to assess Bryant a flagrant foul penalty 1 for catching Philadelphia’s Kyle Korver in the face with an elbow in Friday’s game. If you want to play David Stern, here are Jackson’s unedited comments:
Q: Were you happy about the league just giving Kobe a flagrant 1?
Jackson: It shouldn’t have even been a flagrant 1. That’s crazy. That’s a vendetta. They have a witch hunt going on. That’s nuts. A guy’s riding somebody. Everybody does that in this league. It’s just becoming a witch hunt now.
Q: Do you have any idea why?
Jackson: I think that obviously once something happens like that and a lot of videotape starts floating around and people are making cuts of things that are happening, there’s a lot of focus on him.
Q: Have you guys sent in tape to the league of him doing the arm motion on his shot?
Jackson: Not that I know of, unless Mitch (Kupchak) has asked our video guy to do that. We’re just collecting things right now.
Q: Is it worrisome when these incidents involving Kobe have been no call, loose ball foul and no call on the court and you end up with two one-game suspensions and a flagrant foul?
Jackson: It is an after the fact type of thing. That is bothersome. They have (the) advantage of looking at videotape. We wish that they would correct some of the mistakes they make in ballgames the same way. There’s a couple games that probably could be swung, won or lost, by some of the calls if they’d correct them after the fact. But you can’t do that in the game.
Q: Stu Jackson said after the second suspension that he didn’t need to consult with the referees because he could watch the video replay. Do you think they should talk to the actual referees before they do something?
Jackson: You’d think that would happen, just off-hand. Even the details of the (Marko) Jaric foul, from what I understand, Jaric got on his arm before he got to the ball. So the shot’s coming, he hits his arm. Kobe’s reacting to his hand. The whole play ensues.
If a referee sees that, he might have called the first foul and not the second. A lot of referees will let a touch of the arm go if a guy pulls his hand back when his shooting motion begins. I mean, that’s how our game’s become.
In those situations, the referee might have said, `Hey, he hit his arm first and Kobe reacted to that first arm touch and tried to draw the foul. But it doesn’t look like they’re making that accommodation at all.
$50k? Based on what we've seen from the league, I'd say it's more like $50 mill...Plus a $2 million fine and 5 game suspension for Kobe. :-\
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If they want to keep suspending Kobe for silly fouls - then fine. But I want consistency. Suspend Lebron every time he bulldozes over a player. Suspend Bruce Bowen every time he slips his foot under a player when they pull up for a jumper. Suspend Raja Bell every time he slaps the hell out of someone when they drive in the paint for a layup. That should bring some excitement back to the NBA ::)
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If they want to keep suspending Kobe for silly fouls - then fine. But I want consistency. Suspend Lebron every time he bulldozes over a player. Suspend Bruce Bowen every time he slips his foot under a player when they pull up for a jumper. Suspend Raja Bell every time he slaps the hell out of someone when they drive in the paint for a layup. That should bring some excitement back to the NBA ::)
exactly wut im thinking. fuck this bullshit.
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How much will they fine him? Shit I'll be surprised if Phil is still in the league tomorrow morning.
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They will probably suspend him for saying that. ::) NBA has really been on some bullshit this year.
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the NBA is def picking on Kobe
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If they want to keep suspending Kobe for silly fouls - then fine. But I want consistency. Suspend Lebron every time he bulldozes over a player. Suspend Bruce Bowen every time he slips his foot under a player when they pull up for a jumper. Suspend Raja Bell every time he slaps the hell out of someone when they drive in the paint for a layup. That should bring some excitement back to the NBA ::)
Or every time Kobe gets bashed in the head with no call, which happens pretty much every game...Stu Jackson and David Stern are disgusting people. I wouldn't mind if their private jets collided.
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good to see even the NBA does not condone snitching
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good to see even the NBA does not condone snitching
Nobody snitched, get that hate out ya system...
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good to see even the NBA does not condone snitching
You're a fuckin' hatin ass moron.
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BY MICHAEL McAULIFF
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Wednesday, September 29th, 2004
Hours after Kobe Bryant was accused of rape, he reportedly told cops that his Los Angeles Lakers teammate Shaquille O'Neal had paid women up to $1 million to keep "situations like this" quiet.
Bryant's Shaq attack came July 2, 2003, in a conversation he had with Colorado cops soon after a 19-year-old hotel worker accused the star guard of assaulting her, the Los Angeles Times reported last night.
"Bryant made a comment to us about what another teammate does in situations like these," Eagle, Colo., Detective Doug Winters wrote in a police report obtained by the paper.
"Bryant stated he should have done what Shaq does. Bryant stated that Shaq would pay his women not to say anything. He stated Shaq has paid up to a million dollars already for situations like this."
Bryant, 26, also insisted he hadn't thought of a payoff because he treats women much better than his gargantuan teammate.
"He stated he, Bryant, treats a woman with respect, therefore they shouldn't say anything," Winters said.
Shaq found out about the dis last September when investigators for Eagle County prosecutors made an unsuccessful attempt to quiz him about the charge two weeks before the Lakers opened their training camp in Hawaii, the Times said.
Perry Rogers, O'Neal's agent, told the paper that Kobe's allegations against the big man were false and "undeserving of a response."
O'Neal, a 32-year-old All-Star center, is married with three children and has a fourth by an ex-girlfriend. He has never been accused of sexual impropriety.
A 23-year-old woman who worked at Walt Disney World in Orlando accused him of grabbing her neck in 1997, and he was charged with misdemeanor battery, but the case was dismissed in 2000.
Sports Illustrated had already reported the salacious details of Bryant's statement to police from a transcript of their conversation, including comments that other NBA players paid off women.
But the bombshell accusation against O'Neal came after the detectives turned off their tape recorder, and had been sealed during a pretrial hearing before the accuser backed out of the case and the charges were dropped.
The pair often butted egos in their years together on the Lakers, even as they won three championships.
O'Neal's agent said he didn't know whether O'Neal confronted Bryant over the comments last season, but said the remarks didn't stop Shaq from doing his job.
"It didn't have any impact on the relationship," Rogers told the Times, because "Shaquille had a very professional approach to his career there and because he has had an understanding of Kobe, Kobe's interests and Kobe's priorities. Kobe has historically been shown to be interested in one person and one person alone."
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yea u guys are right he's not a snitch
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I just think it's funny how in every thread about Kobe or the Lakers you go in them a type "Kobe's a snitch" the fuck does that have to do with anything? We get it dog you think Kobe is a snitch and you don't like him. You ain't shit but a hater. A fuckin' suburban kid who is fascinated with the "snitchin" fad.
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so u agree that kobe is a snitch?
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:sleep:
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I just think it's funny how in every thread about Kobe or the Lakers you go in them a type "Kobe's a snitch" the fuck does that have to do with anything? We get it dog you think Kobe is a snitch and you don't like him. You ain't shit but a hater. A fuckin' suburban kid who is fascinated with the "snitchin" fad.
its not about being a surburban kid who is fascinated wit the fad. Its about principal. Its about being raised the right way. Its about loyalty to a teammate.
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Its about loyalty to a teammate.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
"The other players on the team wanted to make sure he (kobe) earned everything he got, that the coach didn't just give him something just because the fans wanted to see this young phenom play," recalled Del Harris, Bryant's first coach with the Lakers.
That was especially true of Shaquille O'Neal, the game's dominant young center who felt immense pressure to win championships. Each season his dislike of Bryant had grown.
"What suprised me about Shaquille during our early days in Los Angeles was how frustrated he got," said former Lakers GM Jerry West.
"He was not fun to be around. The shortcomings of our team and his teammates made him angry because he knew he was going to be judged on how much we won."
How angry?
Just months before Jackson arrived, O'Neal slapped Bryant during a pickup game at the Laker practice facility.
"It would not be forgotten," former Laker guard Derek Fisher said of the incident.
When Jackson and his coaching staff began work in Los Angeles, they were caught off guard by O'Neal's animosity toward Bryant.
"There was a lot of hatred in his heart," Tex Winter said of O'Neal. "He would speak his mind in our team meetings. He was saying really hateful. Kobe just took it and kept going."
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lol reached back like a pimp slapped the hoe
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You Dumb piece of shit........First you say Kobe's a punk b/c he's not a loyal teammate but now that you see that shaq was the bitch all along now you're trying to act like Shaq is so Cool for been a bad teammate?
BTW your Warriors are going to miss the playoffs for the 14th straight year! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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You Dumb piece of shit........First you say Kobe's a punk b/c he's not a loyal teammate but now that you see that shaq was the bitch all along now you're trying to act like Shaq is so Cool for been a bad teammate?
BTW your Warriors are going to miss the playoffs for the 14th straight year! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
thats fine i live in the bay we have 6 pro teams Niners, Giants, Raiders,Warriors, A's and Sharks. U so cal fans basically only have one decent team which is the lakers. Angels suck dogders suck. No NFL team i really feel bad for u guys.
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Phil is right to defend his player, the Kobe witchhunt is getting outta hand
real spit
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Kobe needs to quit throwing elbows. It's not fucking rocket science.
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Kobe needs to quit throwing elbows. It's not fucking rocket science.
yeah, and so does ginobli but you dont see the league suspending him...
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You Dumb piece of shit........First you say Kobe's a punk b/c he's not a loyal teammate but now that you see that shaq was the bitch all along now you're trying to act like Shaq is so Cool for been a bad teammate?
BTW your Warriors are going to miss the playoffs for the 14th straight year! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
thats fine i live in the bay we have 6 pro teams Niners, Giants, Raiders,Warriors, A's and Sharks. U so cal fans basically only have one decent team which is the lakers. Angels suck dogders suck. No NFL team i really feel bad for u guys.
Dude you have the dumbest arguments. The fuck does the bay having six pro teams have to do with anything? And what have any of those teams you just named won lately? Not a damn thing. All those teams you named suck (except for the Niners). C'mon patna step your game up. Stop making dumb ass statements.
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You Dumb piece of shit........First you say Kobe's a punk b/c he's not a loyal teammate but now that you see that shaq was the bitch all along now you're trying to act like Shaq is so Cool for been a bad teammate?
BTW your Warriors are going to miss the playoffs for the 14th straight year! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
thats fine i live in the bay we have 6 pro teams Niners, Giants, Raiders,Warriors, A's and Sharks. U so cal fans basically only have one decent team which is the lakers. Angels suck dogders suck. No NFL team i really feel bad for u guys.
Dude you have the dumbest arguments. The fuck does the bay having six pro teams have to do with anything? And what have any of those teams you just named won lately? Not a damn thing. All those teams you named suck (except for the Niners). C'mon patna step your game up. Stop making dumb ass statements.
u niggas is whack u keep sucking kobe's dick callin him the mvp of the league when hes not even the MVp of his own team. lamar goes down and the lakers loose like 6 str8 thats the real star
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^Hhahaahaha...you just proved my point.
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You Dumb piece of shit........First you say Kobe's a punk b/c he's not a loyal teammate but now that you see that shaq was the bitch all along now you're trying to act like Shaq is so Cool for been a bad teammate?
BTW your Warriors are going to miss the playoffs for the 14th straight year! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
thats fine i live in the bay we have 6 pro teams Niners, Giants, Raiders,Warriors, A's and Sharks. U so cal fans basically only have one decent team which is the lakers. Angels suck dogders suck. No NFL team i really feel bad for u guys.
Dude you have the dumbest arguments. The fuck does the bay having six pro teams have to do with anything? And what have any of those teams you just named won lately? Not a damn thing. All those teams you named suck (except for the Niners). C'mon patna step your game up. Stop making dumb ass statements.
u niggas is whack u keep sucking kobe's dick callin him the mvp of the league when hes not even the MVp of his own team. lamar goes down and the lakers loose like 6 str8 thats the real star
lol infact lmao
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LOL. Is this Bay Area Jat hater hilarious or what? Kobe snitches, because he states the obvious in a PRIVATE conversation with cops to defend himself? All Kobe said was that he wanted to pay the girl hush money like Shaq does, and pretty much every player in the league does it... he wasn't tryna get Shaq in shit with the cops or anything. LMAO, what was he snitching about? If you knew anything, you'd know that snitching involved telling on someone to GET THEM IN TROUBLE. The interrogation is not even supposed to be released to the media.. did you even read it or do you just love being a bitchmade ass hater? Stop bringing up the dumbest shit in every Kobe thread...
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LOL. Is this Bay Area Jat hater hilarious or what? Kobe snitches, because he states the obvious in a PRIVATE conversation with cops to defend himself? All Kobe said was that he wanted to pay the girl hush money like Shaq does, and pretty much every player in the league does it... he wasn't tryna get Shaq in shit with the cops or anything. LMAO, what was he snitching about? If you knew anything, you'd know that snitching involved telling on someone to GET THEM IN TROUBLE. The interrogation is not even supposed to be released to the media.. did you even read it or do you just love being a bitchmade ass hater? Stop bring up the dumbest shit in every Kobe thread...
Yeah he is a funny little hater. Then as soon as he gets told what's up and he knows he can't counter an argument he goes on his little rants and starts throwing insults. Read his posts in this thread about 80% of them don't make sense with what's being discussed at the time.
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Kobe snitches, because he states the obvious in a PRIVATE conversation with cops to defend himself? All Kobe said was that he wanted to pay the girl hush money like Shaq does, and pretty much every player in the league does it... he wasn't tryna get Shaq in shit with the cops or anything. LMAO, what was he snitching about? If you knew anything, you'd know that snitching involved telling on someone to GET THEM IN TROUBLE.
That was still gay tho. Shaq had nothing to do with that situation.
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Kobe snitches, because he states the obvious in a PRIVATE conversation with cops to defend himself? All Kobe said was that he wanted to pay the girl hush money like Shaq does, and pretty much every player in the league does it... he wasn't tryna get Shaq in shit with the cops or anything. LMAO, what was he snitching about? If you knew anything, you'd know that snitching involved telling on someone to GET THEM IN TROUBLE.
That was still gay tho. Shaq had nothing to do with that situation.
Yeah, I agree with that. He shouldn't of said shit.
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Kobe needs to quit throwing elbows. It's not fucking rocket science.
yeah, and so does ginobli but you dont see the league suspending him...
It's a fact that the league is MUCH harder on it's superstars than the average cat in the league. Look at Nate Rob vs. Melo.
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Kobe snitches, because he states the obvious in a PRIVATE conversation with cops to defend himself? All Kobe said was that he wanted to pay the girl hush money like Shaq does, and pretty much every player in the league does it... he wasn't tryna get Shaq in shit with the cops or anything. LMAO, what was he snitching about? If you knew anything, you'd know that snitching involved telling on someone to GET THEM IN TROUBLE.
That was still gay tho. Shaq had nothing to do with that situation.
He just used Shaq as an example...Did you read the script? What was so gay about it? It was a private convo between him and an officer about what went down and what he was supposed to do. It happened the same day he was accused... nothing was supposed to leak.
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Kobe needs to quit throwing elbows. It's not fucking rocket science.
yeah, and so does ginobli but you dont see the league suspending him...
It's a fact that the league is MUCH harder on it's superstars than the average cat in the league. Look at Nate Rob vs. Melo.
Ginobli isnt a star?? ???
Dont compare Nate Rob to Ginobli plz.
Ginobli inst the star Kobe is, but hes stil a star
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Kobe snitches, because he states the obvious in a PRIVATE conversation with cops to defend himself? All Kobe said was that he wanted to pay the girl hush money like Shaq does, and pretty much every player in the league does it... he wasn't tryna get Shaq in shit with the cops or anything. LMAO, what was he snitching about? If you knew anything, you'd know that snitching involved telling on someone to GET THEM IN TROUBLE.
That was still gay tho. Shaq had nothing to do with that situation.
He just used Shaq as an example...Did you read the script? What was so gay about it? It was a private convo between him and an officer about what went down and what he was supposed to do. It happened the same day he was accused... nothing was supposed to leak.
That's called SNITCHING.
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Kobe snitches, because he states the obvious in a PRIVATE conversation with cops to defend himself? All Kobe said was that he wanted to pay the girl hush money like Shaq does, and pretty much every player in the league does it... he wasn't tryna get Shaq in shit with the cops or anything. LMAO, what was he snitching about? If you knew anything, you'd know that snitching involved telling on someone to GET THEM IN TROUBLE.
That was still gay tho. Shaq had nothing to do with that situation.
He just used Shaq as an example...Did you read the script? What was so gay about it? It was a private convo between him and an officer about what went down and what he was supposed to do. It happened the same day he was accused... nothing was supposed to leak.
That's called SNITCHING.
So if he's having a PRIVATE discussion with a cop, and he asks him if he can pay the girl hush money like Shaq does (which is already known, since details of Shaq's life has been published in enough books), that's called snitching? How is that snitching, homie? Like the cop even cares. It's called an example... If I was on WCC and I told Overseer I wanted to get banned once a month like KAIN does, would that be snitching? Come on now, we don't all have to fall into this "snitching" fad... ::)
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Kobe needs to quit throwing elbows. It's not fucking rocket science.
yeah, and so does ginobli but you dont see the league suspending him...
It's a fact that the league is MUCH harder on it's superstars than the average cat in the league. Look at Nate Rob vs. Melo.
Ginobli isnt a star?? ???
Dont compare Nate Rob to Ginobli plz.
Ginobli inst the star Kobe is, but hes stil a star
Don't compare Nate Rob to Ginobli?!?
Don't compare Ginobli to KOBE!!!!
Kobe = SUPERSTAR
Ginobli = Very good player w/ status, but not even close to Kobe status.