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When T.I. releases his T.I. vs T.I.P. album — now slated for July — it won't just be a one-on-one face off of Clifford Harris' two musical personas. Plenty of his friends are jumping on it. Sunday night via phone from Atlanta, T.I. revealed some of the album's collaborators, and it sounded like a red-carpet roll call at a high-profile awards show. The biggest names? A guy who knows a thing or two about split personalities and some cat who T.I. just performed with at the Grammys.
"I'm anticipating going in with Eminem," the King of the South revealed. "Eminem, we got a real hot concept that we spoke about over the phone. It's gonna be on some real creative sh--. JT, Justin Timberlake, we're just waiting on the proper song to get him on my album as well."
That's just the beginning. The two-time Grammy Award winner says he has about 60 songs in the can and will once again be working right up to the deadline to turn the album in.
"I'm working with everybody who I have an opportunity to work with," he added. "Timbaland, I'm working with Danja [Timbaland protégé Nate Hills] today. Scott Storch, Mannie Fresh, Wyclef — [Wyclef] came through with some real worldly music and great vocals. Nelly, Lil Wayne, R. Kelly. We reached out to Ciara, gonna see what she says. Akon did his thing for me. A lot of the Grand Hustle producers: Khao, Black Mob. ... Just Blaze, we did a song called 'Help Is Coming.' I'm basically talking about how they say the industry is suffering. Well, help is on the way. Fret not."
T.I. vs. T.I.P. is undoubtedly the film/mic star's most conceptual album to date. T.I. is the persona we hear in songs like "My Love" and "Why You Wanna." T.I.P., on the other hand, takes care of the much more gutter material like "Bring Em Out" and "You Don't Know Me." Tip says the LP will give you doses of T.I. and T.I.P. solo records as well as the two collaborating on the same track. There will be interludes throughout the LP, telling a story — and don't be surprised if more than one single from the project is released at once.
"I'm not just making an album, I'm making f---in' opera here," he chuckled. With such a high concept, he says that he's making sure to take extra time and critique every song to be sure he doesn't lose anyone.
"It'd be easy for me to go over people's heads," he rationalized. "Sometime people might see me act a certain way one time and another way one another time. They might not believe the same cat you see dressed so sharp and winning awards and speaking eloquently is the same cat you see fist-fighting with hoodlums outside a nightclub. This album will be an explanation of all of this."
Inspiration for material is something T.I. is definitely not lacking. Professionally, he's thrived since the release of King in 2006. He won two Grammys, received critical acclaim for his part in his Hollywood debut, "ATL," and filmed "American Gangster" with Academy Award winner Denzel Washington. The screenplay for "T.I vs. T.I.P." is being written now, with production for the film scheduled to ramp up this summer. And lately, Tip's been on a tear as one of the most requested MCs for guest appearances, featured on Justin Timberlake's "My Love," Jim Jones' "We Fly High" remix, Fat Joe's "Make It Rain" remix, DJ Khaled's "We Takin' Over," DJ Drama's "Takin Pictures" and R. Kelly's "Flirt" remix.
Personally, though, Tip's had some ups and downs. The most heartbreaking low came last May when he had to endure the loss of his best friend Philant Johnson after unknown assailants shot at his tour bus following a show in Cincinnati (see "Deadly Shooting Causes T.I. To Re-Evaluate His Life"). The death of his friend almost caused him to retire from rap, period.
"A lot of mixed emotion," T.I. began to detail. "Parts of me were ready to get out the game completely. I felt the game wasn't for me. I felt like I was finnin' to kill somebody or do something that was gonna get me killed. That was the first time I felt about the rap game what I felt about the dope game. ... Right before I got out of the dope game, and my son was [about to be born], I sat myself down and said, 'You gonna mess around and kill somebody and have to deal with that. Or you might get yourself killed.' "
T.I. said he was ultimately inspired to not give up the mic after his late friend came to him one night.
"Phil spoke to me and said, 'If you quit, I'll kill you,' " he remembered.
Tip says going back to recording after his brief hiatus was nowhere nearly as tough as doing shows shortly after losing his friend.
As fate would have it, after such a tragic loss, Tip was blessed with a life. He's expecting a baby girl this July with longtime girlfriend Tameka "Tiny" Cottle. It will be T.I.'s and Tiny second child together. The two were even engaged, but have recently decided to amicably end their long relationship and remain friends.
"She's still a part of my life," he explained the turn their relationship has taken. "I love her to death. Her children is still my children, my children are still her children," he said (both have kids from previous relationships). "We want each other to be happy. It's nothing she did and it's nothing I did."
While T.I. works on album number five and awaits the birth of child number six in his and Cottle's brood, he'll also be overseeing several other projects on his Grand Hustle imprint, such as DJ Drama's official Gangsta Grillz album and the sophomore project from Young Dro. There's also a clothing line he's involved in with his manager and business partner Jason Geter called AKOO.
This report is provided by MTV News (MTV.com)
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im really lookin forward to this 8)
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fuck all them producers, he needs to get in the studio with the person that put him on(DJ Toomp)and bang out a whole album.
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what is T.I.P.? i'm not a big fan of TI so I wouldn't know
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what is T.I.P.? i'm not a big fan of TI so I wouldn't know
T.I.P. is his "real" rap name. but he was on the same label as Q-Tip so they asked him to change it. he released a song with Beanie Sigel under the name T.I.P. and that song was dope as fuck, i think it was on Shaft OST.
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here´s that song with Beans
http://rapidshare.com/files/21805104/08_-_T.I.P._featuring_Beanie_Sigal_-_2_Glock_9_s.mp3.html
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TI is wack.
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here´s that song with Beans
http://rapidshare.com/files/21805104/08_-_T.I.P._featuring_Beanie_Sigal_-_2_Glock_9_s.mp3.html
props man
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if he really sticks with that concept and doesn't work with
cash money
ying yang twins
other stupid asses
then I may buy it if the Em joint is hot.
-T
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Yeah fuck that producer lineup. HOW ARE PEOPLE NOT TIRED OF HEARING THE SAME PRODUCERS????????
And TI's talking about some potentially more creative shit, but I'm not sure that he can execute it, or that he even intends to. I think it will be more of the same shit we know of him, just with added hype of this split personality shit. I'm not buyin it.
I really don't care about this album. I guess I'll check for the joint w/ Em just to see how he's spittin these days.
BTW, what label / distributor is TI signed to? Lots of Interscope features popping up.
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BTW, what label / distributor is TI signed to? Lots of Interscope features popping up.
T.I. is signed to Grand Hustle/Atlantic.
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Can't wait for this!!. This shit is gonna be MAD dope. King Of The South no doubt. And to the person who mentioned DJ Toomp, I'm sure just because he didn't mention him, don't mean Toomp won't lay something down. Off the top of my head I believe Toomp has worked on every single T.I. album, most successfully on King, so to stop working with him now would make no sense.
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Can't wait for this!!. This shit is gonna be MAD dope. King Of The South no doubt. And to the person who mentioned DJ Toomp, I'm sure just because he didn't mention him, don't mean Toomp won't lay something down. Off the top of my head I believe Toomp has worked on every single T.I. album, most successfully on King, so to stop working with him now would make no sense.
of course he´s gonna produce on the album, but he should do the whole album.
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Can't wait for this!!. This shit is gonna be MAD dope. King Of The South no doubt. And to the person who mentioned DJ Toomp, I'm sure just because he didn't mention him, don't mean Toomp won't lay something down. Off the top of my head I believe Toomp has worked on every single T.I. album, most successfully on King, so to stop working with him now would make no sense.
of course he´s gonna produce on the album, but he should do the whole album.
I feel you. Toomp & T.I. are always a dope combo, defanitely some chemistry there. But that shit is RARE now in days
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Im definetly aniticpating this, T.I. is one of my fav. from the South, hes been killing all the guest apperances lately.
Im worried about all these guets and producers popping up, which is starting to become quite common these days.
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Whats the deal with T.I ? i dont see nothing n that guy
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Lookin foward to it, TI has dropped 3 straight nice albums IMO. This one shouldnt be different plus I like the concept. I think what seperates TI from other southern mc's is his flow is unreal, he can switch it up to whatever and still kill a track, that was shown on King. He also picks out fantastic production and is strong with his ability to make songs hot.
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Lookin foward to it, TI has dropped 3 straight nice albums IMO. This one shouldnt be different plus I like the concept. I think what seperates TI from other southern mc's is his flow is unreal, he can switch it up to whatever and still kill a track, that was shown on King. He also picks out fantastic production and is strong with his ability to make songs hot.
Hm, I've been less impressed with his flow than his lyrics which is one of the only thing that sticks to me about him. I don't like all the vocal layers he records, and like I said if not for his lyrics(which are dope) then he would sound like a somewhat generic Southern rapper to me. That's cool though.
-T
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Lookin foward to it, TI has dropped 3 straight nice albums IMO. This one shouldnt be different plus I like the concept. I think what seperates TI from other southern mc's is his flow is unreal, he can switch it up to whatever and still kill a track, that was shown on King. He also picks out fantastic production and is strong with his ability to make songs hot.
Hm, I've been less impressed with his flow than his lyrics which is one of the only thing that sticks to me about him. I don't like all the vocal layers he records, and like I said if not for his lyrics(which are dope) then he would sound like a somewhat generic Southern rapper to me. That's cool though.
-T
his flow is dope man. His lyrics were a bit lacking on KING besides a few tracks here & there
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Lookin foward to it, TI has dropped 3 straight nice albums IMO. This one shouldnt be different plus I like the concept. I think what seperates TI from other southern mc's is his flow is unreal, he can switch it up to whatever and still kill a track, that was shown on King. He also picks out fantastic production and is strong with his ability to make songs hot.
Hm, I've been less impressed with his flow than his lyrics which is one of the only thing that sticks to me about him. I don't like all the vocal layers he records, and like I said if not for his lyrics(which are dope) then he would sound like a somewhat generic Southern rapper to me. That's cool though.
-T
his flow is dope man. His lyrics were a bit lacking on KING besides a few tracks here & there
there's nothing wrong with it to me, i just noticed that it doesn't jump out at me. unless I'm actively listening to his lyrics, i personally, don't get alot of enjoyment from his rapping. but I have not heard it all, though I've heard a smattering of each album.
-T
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Lookin foward to it, TI has dropped 3 straight nice albums IMO. This one shouldnt be different plus I like the concept. I think what seperates TI from other southern mc's is his flow is unreal, he can switch it up to whatever and still kill a track, that was shown on King. He also picks out fantastic production and is strong with his ability to make songs hot.
Hm, I've been less impressed with his flow than his lyrics which is one of the only thing that sticks to me about him. I don't like all the vocal layers he records, and like I said if not for his lyrics(which are dope) then he would sound like a somewhat generic Southern rapper to me. That's cool though.
-T
his flow is dope man. His lyrics were a bit lacking on KING besides a few tracks here & there
there's nothing wrong with it to me, i just noticed that it doesn't jump out at me. unless I'm actively listening to his lyrics, i personally, don't get alot of enjoyment from his rapping. but I have not heard it all, though I've heard a smattering of each album.
-T
true. I think the general consensus to most ppl is his flow is nuts. Yea, his lyrics get over-looked too much. you gotta check out ALL of trap muzik 8)
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Lookin foward to it, TI has dropped 3 straight nice albums IMO. This one shouldnt be different plus I like the concept. I think what seperates TI from other southern mc's is his flow is unreal, he can switch it up to whatever and still kill a track, that was shown on King. He also picks out fantastic production and is strong with his ability to make songs hot.
Hm, I've been less impressed with his flow than his lyrics which is one of the only thing that sticks to me about him. I don't like all the vocal layers he records, and like I said if not for his lyrics(which are dope) then he would sound like a somewhat generic Southern rapper to me. That's cool though.
-T
his flow is dope man. His lyrics were a bit lacking on KING besides a few tracks here & there
there's nothing wrong with it to me, i just noticed that it doesn't jump out at me. unless I'm actively listening to his lyrics, i personally, don't get alot of enjoyment from his rapping. but I have not heard it all, though I've heard a smattering of each album.
-T
true. I think the general consensus to most ppl is his flow is nuts. Yea, his lyrics get over-looked too much. you gotta check out ALL of trap muzik 8)
I'll be honest witchu mayne. I'm one of those people that can't help but associate certain music with certain people that become important in my life. For example, I can't listen to Incubus anymore cause of an ex girl...just can't do it. at least for a while.
anyway, another ex of mine looves t.i. and was trying to tell me the other day that Dogg Pound isn't dancable I was like 'wtf?' and this bitch bugs the hell outta me most of the time(though she is the homegirl and I got love for her, she drove my drunk ass home on st.patrick's day, was hilarious). I ain't saying I'll never give it a shot....but given that I don't even own any 2pac anymore...it's at the bottom of my priorities BUT you will be the first cat I get at when I finally do give his shit a chance. Unless you wanna make me a mix/HU something in the HU spot.
-T
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Lookin foward to it, TI has dropped 3 straight nice albums IMO. This one shouldnt be different plus I like the concept. I think what seperates TI from other southern mc's is his flow is unreal, he can switch it up to whatever and still kill a track, that was shown on King. He also picks out fantastic production and is strong with his ability to make songs hot.
Hm, I've been less impressed with his flow than his lyrics which is one of the only thing that sticks to me about him. I don't like all the vocal layers he records, and like I said if not for his lyrics(which are dope) then he would sound like a somewhat generic Southern rapper to me. That's cool though.
-T
his flow is dope man. His lyrics were a bit lacking on KING besides a few tracks here & there
there's nothing wrong with it to me, i just noticed that it doesn't jump out at me. unless I'm actively listening to his lyrics, i personally, don't get alot of enjoyment from his rapping. but I have not heard it all, though I've heard a smattering of each album.
-T
true. I think the general consensus to most ppl is his flow is nuts. Yea, his lyrics get over-looked too much. you gotta check out ALL of trap muzik 8)
I'll be honest witchu mayne. I'm one of those people that can't help but associate certain music with certain people that become important in my life. For example, I can't listen to Incubus anymore cause of an ex girl...just can't do it. at least for a while.
anyway, another ex of mine looves t.i. and was trying to tell me the other day that Dogg Pound isn't dancable I was like 'wtf?' and this bitch bugs the hell outta me most of the time(though she is the homegirl and I got love for her, she drove my drunk ass home on st.patrick's day, was hilarious). I ain't saying I'll never give it a shot....but given that I don't even own any 2pac anymore...it's at the bottom of my priorities BUT you will be the first cat I get at when I finally do give his shit a chance. Unless you wanna make me a mix/HU something in the HU spot.
-T
it's all good man. the music is worthless if it ain't got some meaning 2 you. 2 me, T.I.'s music means alot to me. It might sound dumb, but he done been 1 of my fav. 4 a long time now (b4 he got all the commercial love like he do now) and ppl use 2 laugh at me like "T.I," plz, that n*gga get no love" and i'd be like "iight y'all see 1 day". And now that, that day has come, im'a milk the shit out it. it's cool that it's at the bottom of ya list. I recommend 1st off his Trap Muzik LP.
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yeah, i ain't hating on dude. just saying I got alooooot of stuff to check out. specially considering how long I been gone. but if i come across the album cheap, a link etc. I'll give it some love.
-T
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yeah, i ain't hating on dude. just saying I got alooooot of stuff to check out. specially considering how long I been gone. but if i come across the album cheap, a link etc. I'll give it some love.
-T
let me know when you need a link 8)
no rush homie
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yeah, i ain't hating on dude. just saying I got alooooot of stuff to check out. specially considering how long I been gone. but if i come across the album cheap, a link etc. I'll give it some love.
-T
let me know when you need a link 8)
no rush homie
+1
-T
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yeah, i ain't hating on dude. just saying I got alooooot of stuff to check out. specially considering how long I been gone. but if i come across the album cheap, a link etc. I'll give it some love.
-T
let me know when you need a link 8)
no rush homie
+1
-T
right back at cha. damn homie, your karma been gooin up. i been doin what i can :D
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should be intersting to hear what T.I. an Em sound like together on a track.. its good that Em is branching out a little more rather than stayin with the Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit camps
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that should be fire he would sound dope with 50 too
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should be intersting to hear what T.I. an Em sound like together on a track.. its good that Em is branching out a little more rather than stayin with the Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit camps
just 30 more posts man
-T
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what is T.I.P.? i'm not a big fan of TI so I wouldn't know
T.I.P. is his "real" rap name. but he was on the same label as Q-Tip so they asked him to change it. he released a song with Beanie Sigel under the name T.I.P. and that song was dope as fuck, i think it was on Shaft OST.
ahh i see now. props
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I seriously wonder how the hell he's gonna manage to successfully follow-up "What You Know" cause he REALLY set the bar so high for himself on that shit. Then again, I wondered the same thing after "Bring Em Out", so maybe he'll surprise me again. I think that's what I like about T.I...he seems to be good at raising standards and then coming back harder next time after.
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I seriously wonder how the hell he's gonna manage to successfully follow-up "What You Know" cause he REALLY set the bar so high for himself on that shit. Then again, I wondered the same thing after "Bring Em Out", so maybe he'll surprise me again. I think that's what I like about T.I...he seems to be good at raising standards and then coming back harder next time after.
very true. Well the guests sound like it's gonna be a commercial's fan dream, so I think sales won't be a problem. I can't see the biggest rapper of 06, his follow up album with EVEN more "big names" then his last 1 be a commercial failure. Quality is another question. Since he's my fav I pretty much know how i'll react to it, but intresting to see how others will
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Cool T.I.'s Dope