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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: DreTendo on March 28, 2007, 03:17:13 PM
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I posted this a few weeks ago on Aftermatmusic, I just wanted to know what you guys think?
irst I have to say, Dr Dre is in my opinion the greatest producer of all time. Not just Hip hop, music full stop and I have almost 99% of the tracks that Dre has put out. I get excited when I know a new Dre track is coming, and if I look at the most played songs on my ipod the majority are Dre produced.
I feel that the after the Big Bang Dre has been falling off HARD! Let me list the tracks that he has done
Lost Ones (Decent Song, but nowhere near Dre's normal quality)
30 Something ( So average it's almost bad)
Trouble (Really Good)
Minority Report (Brilliant)
Boss Up (Good, but it's Busta Rhyme's 'Everybody Rise' that he has re-produced)
Round Here (Good, but it's Dido's 'Thankyou that he has re-produced)
Imagine (Good but again not up to his usual standards)
Get Low (Amazing)
Hustlers (Really good but drums sounded a bit weak)
You Ain’t Going Nowhere (Average)
Slow Your Roll (Best song on album, but doesn't even sound like a Dre record)
Hold on (Horrible)
So out of 12 beats only three are 'Dr Dre' quality. This is not a good sign for Detox, I am no longer hyped for the album, and everyday for the last 2-3 years I check the internet for the slightest bit of info on this album. Right now I am seriously pissed off. I never thought i would say this but Dre is not that good anymore.
I hope I am wrong but I at the moment i don't just think Detox will not live up to the hype I actually think it will be a big letdown. I JUST HOPE I AM WRONG.
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detox will be brilliant becuase it is dr dre.
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No way he should retire just because WE all waited at least 5 Years for This DAMN album.
Imagine what will happen when this shit really drops this year, this forum will be shut down lol
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No way he should retire just because WE all waited at least 5 Years for This DAMN album.
Imagine what will happen when this shit really drops this year, this forum will be shut down lol
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SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Nima and Co..will hafta to work double time..to accomdate all the post!!
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No way he should retire just because WE all waited at least 5 Years for This DAMN album.
Imagine what will happen when this shit really drops this year, this forum will be shut down lol
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SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Nima and Co..will hafta to work double time..to accomdate all the post!!
no shit.... maybe they will have to hire some more mods
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I see what you're saying, But Ima go through your post in bold letters to interject my opinion:
I posted this a few weeks ago on Aftermatmusic, I just wanted to know what you guys think?
irst I have to say, Dr Dre is in my opinion the greatest producer of all time. Not just Hip hop, music full stop and I have almost 99% of the tracks that Dre has put out. I get excited when I know a new Dre track is coming, and if I look at the most played songs on my ipod the majority are Dre produced.
I feel that the after the Big Bang Dre has been falling off HARD! Let me list the tracks that he has done
Lost Ones (Decent Song, but nowhere near Dre's normal quality) Seriously, the production on this track is one of the msot gorgeous pieces of music I've ever heard and i've listened to an ungodly amount of rock, jazz, funk, blues etc.
30 Something ( So average it's almost bad) it's extra great to see dre do funk without gangsterness. the key to this track is the chords the piano hits.I can almost guarantee you the keys are the reason jay picked this track for the topic. there's a subtle and jazzy maturity to those chords.
Trouble (Really Good) very innovative. sick drums, and cool sample. not my favorite, but an undeniably succesful experiment. i wish dre would have given nas this and jay the hustlers beat. they are similar.
Minority Report (Brilliant) I wish Dre would have given this to a more deserving rapper, but yes this piece is dre level.
Boss Up (Good, but it's Busta Rhyme's 'Everybody Rise' that he has re-produced) I think you mean boss life, i've never heard the busta song you refer to, but this song is sexy mature funk and what else could we ask of dre 15 years after the chronic? To me the melodies and instrumentation on this song are pristine. seriously, it grows on me every time. the guitar strums throughout-sick. drums-sick. bass guitar-sick. piano keys-icing mayne.
Round Here (Good, but it's Dido's 'Thankyou that he has re-produced) Seriously, he gangstered this shit out so hard. The subtle coo's of ther and b bitches in the background are key man. listen headphones to the song once and then from then on you'll be able to hear the coos in the whip/system and you will be hooked forever. the way he expounds upon and layers the two chord change of this beat is masterfully musical. and the piano keys during the later choruses are so simple yet so perfect. this shit bangs like anything that has ever banged.
^^^these last two you criticized for being samples but
a)dre has done tons of original music so it's not like his ability to make shit from scratch is in debate
b) where would hip hop and music in general be if not for samples, covers, remakes, updates and in this case variations on a theme?
Imagine (Good but again not up to his usual standards) This shit is as gorgeous as 'lost ones' for all the same reasons. beautiful and simple.
Get Low (Amazing) One of my least favorites of his new shit, I hate hate hate hate hate hate synthesized strings! they are the corniest sound known to man, and i think dre knows it so it's like a challenge for him to make a banger or a few from them just to show he's that dope. the beat is a succesful experiment in the vein of 'trouble' but i like trouble better.
Hustlers (Really good but drums sounded a bit weak) I thought the drums were the dopest part of this beat. they are actually the same drums as xxplosive if you give it a listen. i like this beat a little more than 'get low' and a little less than trouble. once more, a succesful experiment. this song, trouble, get low, and in da club would all fit on an album together easily.
You Ain’t Going Nowhere (Average) I have not heard this yet
Slow Your Roll (Best song on album, but doesn't even sound like a Dre record) This is not a dre record
Hold on (Horrible) I heard a snippet of this song and it sounded very melodic and I liked what i heard but i have not given it a thorough listen yet.
So out of 12 beats only three are 'Dr Dre' quality. This is not a good sign for Detox, I am no longer hyped for the album, and everyday for the last 2-3 years I check the internet for the slightest bit of info on this album. Right now I am seriously pissed off. I never thought i would say this but Dre is not that good anymore.
I hope I am wrong but I at the moment i don't just think Detox will not live up to the hype I actually think it will not be very good. I JUST HOPE I AM WRONG.
so by my count, that's 9 beats that are dre quality, but that's all imo.
btw, detox, if it happens, at the very least will be a slammin album. I can see him fucking it up with g unit and jay z and alot of those synth string beats that he's been fucking with but if he doesn't do that(and even that would be a dope album, way doper than most of the shit it will come out around) then it will be a classic no doubt.
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if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
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He should retire after that N.W.A Reunion Album
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nah world class wreckin' cru reunuion ;D
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
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if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
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Dre is gonna make sure Detox is no BS he's in the studio putting in work, u can't go by his production on other people's albums cause he just sends them beats and they pick out whatever they like
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
word
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lol, 4real homie. I'd be on them front lines myself. Shit, even if the motherfucker drops without Knoc on it, I might riot anyway ;D
I have a pretty good feeling i'll be rioting :'(
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
word
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lol, 4real homie. I'd be on them front lines myself. Shit, even if the motherfucker drops without Knoc on it, I might riot anyway ;D
I have a pretty good feeling i'll be rioting :'(
it's Knoc's karma for replacing Ren on Bang bang
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What the hell? >:(
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
word
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lol, 4real homie. I'd be on them front lines myself. Shit, even if the motherfucker drops without Knoc on it, I might riot anyway ;D
I have a pretty good feeling i'll be rioting :'(
it's Knoc's karma for replacing Ren on Bang bang
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nah, but 4real i will be MAD disapointed if he ain't. He had 1 of the best verses PERIOD on that entire album (bang bang) & helped KILL the the hooks on the watcher & some l.a. n*ggaz. Dre's comments about "trying 2 work with every1 he done worked with in the past" gained back some of my faith. i never knew he replaced ren on bang bang ???
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
word
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lol, 4real homie. I'd be on them front lines myself. Shit, even if the motherfucker drops without Knoc on it, I might riot anyway ;D
I have a pretty good feeling i'll be rioting :'(
it's Knoc's karma for replacing Ren on Bang bang
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nah, but 4real i will be MAD disapointed if he ain't. He had 1 of the best verses PERIOD on that entire album (bang bang) & helped KILL the the hooks on the watcher & some l.a. n*ggaz. i never knew he replaced ren on bang bang ???
i always thought that was eminem on the hook in the watcher.
anyway, yeah ren said he had a verse on there and was replaced by some 'new nigga' that wasn't hittman. i forgot who was on that song over-all..knoc, dre, hitt and that little blurb from eminem and the r and b bitches on the chorus right?
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
word
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lol, 4real homie. I'd be on them front lines myself. Shit, even if the motherfucker drops without Knoc on it, I might riot anyway ;D
I have a pretty good feeling i'll be rioting :'(
it's Knoc's karma for replacing Ren on Bang bang
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nah, but 4real i will be MAD disapointed if he ain't. He had 1 of the best verses PERIOD on that entire album (bang bang) & helped KILL the the hooks on the watcher & some l.a. n*ggaz. i never knew he replaced ren on bang bang ???
i always thought that was eminem on the hook in the watcher.
anyway, yeah ren said he had a verse on there and was replaced by some 'new nigga' that wasn't hittman. i forgot who was on that song over-all..knoc, dre, hitt and that little blurb from eminem and the r and b bitches on the chorus right?
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the hook on the watcher is a combo of knoc's voice & em. same with l.a. n*ggaz, accept it's kokane instead of Em. that's why i said "helped".
LMAO at ren catchin feelings "some new n*gga" :D
face it, knoc probly came tighter. His verse was 1 of the best on that whole album
It's jus dre, knoc, hitt & some r & bitches on the hook for bang bang. My fav track on the album. 1 of my fav dre tracks period. Hitt & Knoc came TIGHT, dre was cool, the beat was fire, and the "r & b bitches" did a good job on the hook
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
word
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lol, 4real homie. I'd be on them front lines myself. Shit, even if the motherfucker drops without Knoc on it, I might riot anyway ;D
I have a pretty good feeling i'll be rioting :'(
it's Knoc's karma for replacing Ren on Bang bang
-T
nah, but 4real i will be MAD disapointed if he ain't. He had 1 of the best verses PERIOD on that entire album (bang bang) & helped KILL the the hooks on the watcher & some l.a. n*ggaz. i never knew he replaced ren on bang bang ???
i always thought that was eminem on the hook in the watcher.
anyway, yeah ren said he had a verse on there and was replaced by some 'new nigga' that wasn't hittman. i forgot who was on that song over-all..knoc, dre, hitt and that little blurb from eminem and the r and b bitches on the chorus right?
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the hook on the watcher is a combo of knoc's voice & em. same with l.a. n*ggaz, accept it's kokane instead of Em. that's why i said "helped".
LMAO at ren catchin feelings "some new n*gga" :D
face it, knoc probly came tighter. His verse was 1 of the best on that whole album
It's jus dre, knoc, hitt & some r & bitches on the hook for bang bang. My fav track on the album. 1 of my fav dre tracks period. Hitt & Knoc came TIGHT, dre was cool, the beat was fire, and the "r & b bitches" did a good job on the hook
i read from a couple places that it wasn't that Knoc came tighter (though he did come dope) but that Dre wanted to get knoc exposure since he was one of the new artists he was backing.
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
word
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lol, 4real homie. I'd be on them front lines myself. Shit, even if the motherfucker drops without Knoc on it, I might riot anyway ;D
I have a pretty good feeling i'll be rioting :'(
it's Knoc's karma for replacing Ren on Bang bang
-T
nah, but 4real i will be MAD disapointed if he ain't. He had 1 of the best verses PERIOD on that entire album (bang bang) & helped KILL the the hooks on the watcher & some l.a. n*ggaz. i never knew he replaced ren on bang bang ???
i always thought that was eminem on the hook in the watcher.
anyway, yeah ren said he had a verse on there and was replaced by some 'new nigga' that wasn't hittman. i forgot who was on that song over-all..knoc, dre, hitt and that little blurb from eminem and the r and b bitches on the chorus right?
-T
the hook on the watcher is a combo of knoc's voice & em. same with l.a. n*ggaz, accept it's kokane instead of Em. that's why i said "helped".
LMAO at ren catchin feelings "some new n*gga" :D
face it, knoc probly came tighter. His verse was 1 of the best on that whole album
It's jus dre, knoc, hitt & some r & bitches on the hook for bang bang. My fav track on the album. 1 of my fav dre tracks period. Hitt & Knoc came TIGHT, dre was cool, the beat was fire, and the "r & b bitches" did a good job on the hook
i read from a couple places that it wasn't that Knoc came tighter (though he did come dope) but that Dre wanted to get knoc exposure since he was one of the new artists he was backing.
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True. I'm just saying my opinion. and 4real, it ain't just biased. I've talked to MAD ppl, who have said that knoc verse on bang bang is the best verse on the entire dre album. I wouldn't go that far, but it's up there for me
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
word
-T
lol, 4real homie. I'd be on them front lines myself. Shit, even if the motherfucker drops without Knoc on it, I might riot anyway ;D
I have a pretty good feeling i'll be rioting :'(
it's Knoc's karma for replacing Ren on Bang bang
-T
nah, but 4real i will be MAD disapointed if he ain't. He had 1 of the best verses PERIOD on that entire album (bang bang) & helped KILL the the hooks on the watcher & some l.a. n*ggaz. i never knew he replaced ren on bang bang ???
i always thought that was eminem on the hook in the watcher.
anyway, yeah ren said he had a verse on there and was replaced by some 'new nigga' that wasn't hittman. i forgot who was on that song over-all..knoc, dre, hitt and that little blurb from eminem and the r and b bitches on the chorus right?
-T
the hook on the watcher is a combo of knoc's voice & em. same with l.a. n*ggaz, accept it's kokane instead of Em. that's why i said "helped".
LMAO at ren catchin feelings "some new n*gga" :D
face it, knoc probly came tighter. His verse was 1 of the best on that whole album
It's jus dre, knoc, hitt & some r & bitches on the hook for bang bang. My fav track on the album. 1 of my fav dre tracks period. Hitt & Knoc came TIGHT, dre was cool, the beat was fire, and the "r & b bitches" did a good job on the hook
i read from a couple places that it wasn't that Knoc came tighter (though he did come dope) but that Dre wanted to get knoc exposure since he was one of the new artists he was backing.
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True. I'm just saying my opinion. and 4real, it ain't just biased. I've talked to MAD ppl, who have said that knoc verse on bang bang is the best verse on the entire dre album. I wouldn't go that far, but it's up there for me
get a room you two, lol
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
word
-T
lol, 4real homie. I'd be on them front lines myself. Shit, even if the motherfucker drops without Knoc on it, I might riot anyway ;D
I have a pretty good feeling i'll be rioting :'(
it's Knoc's karma for replacing Ren on Bang bang
-T
nah, but 4real i will be MAD disapointed if he ain't. He had 1 of the best verses PERIOD on that entire album (bang bang) & helped KILL the the hooks on the watcher & some l.a. n*ggaz. i never knew he replaced ren on bang bang ???
i always thought that was eminem on the hook in the watcher.
anyway, yeah ren said he had a verse on there and was replaced by some 'new nigga' that wasn't hittman. i forgot who was on that song over-all..knoc, dre, hitt and that little blurb from eminem and the r and b bitches on the chorus right?
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the hook on the watcher is a combo of knoc's voice & em. same with l.a. n*ggaz, accept it's kokane instead of Em. that's why i said "helped".
LMAO at ren catchin feelings "some new n*gga" :D
face it, knoc probly came tighter. His verse was 1 of the best on that whole album
It's jus dre, knoc, hitt & some r & bitches on the hook for bang bang. My fav track on the album. 1 of my fav dre tracks period. Hitt & Knoc came TIGHT, dre was cool, the beat was fire, and the "r & b bitches" did a good job on the hook
i read from a couple places that it wasn't that Knoc came tighter (though he did come dope) but that Dre wanted to get knoc exposure since he was one of the new artists he was backing.
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True. I'm just saying my opinion. and 4real, it ain't just biased. I've talked to MAD ppl, who have said that knoc verse on bang bang is the best verse on the entire dre album. I wouldn't go that far, but it's up there for me
get a room you two, lol
cus' we havin a convo bout knoc on the 2001 album ???
i KNOW you playin
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Your talking like only Dre releases low quality beats. EVERY PRODUCER releases crappy beats. Quik, Battlecat, Timbaland, Primo, etc etc etc. Every producer releases shit. Dre just releases less product, so when some of his product is bad, you really notice it.
The problem with saying Dre lost it is, Dre is a producer. First and foremost. Dre did not PRODUCE for Jay-Z, Nas or Snoop. He sent them beats. Making a beat and sending it to someone is not producing. When Dre's name is on an album saying "Executive Producer by Dr.Dre" then you can complain about his music. If you don't like beats on Snoops record, BLAME SNOOP, he probably picked the beat. Plus these were all side projects. Detox is his legacy, and hes saving the best for last.
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LMAO at ren catchin feelings "some new n*gga" :D
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There goes MC Ren The Villain catchin Feelin'...Sorry had to say that...:D
Blu
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i'm near positive if dre were to come out 2moro and retire, and say detox won't come out, he'd probably be dead by 2 maybe 2 & a half hours (if lucky) :-\
you'd see half od the dangerous crew movement storming the bastille with pitchforks and torches. Timbotheking would be the war profiteer, talking about he knew dre would do this anyway.
if you think dre will put bullshit on detox than your an idiot
Not an idiot, just overly paranoid
word
-T
lol, 4real homie. I'd be on them front lines myself. Shit, even if the motherfucker drops without Knoc on it, I might riot anyway ;D
I have a pretty good feeling i'll be rioting :'(
it's Knoc's karma for replacing Ren on Bang bang
-T
nah, but 4real i will be MAD disapointed if he ain't. He had 1 of the best verses PERIOD on that entire album (bang bang) & helped KILL the the hooks on the watcher & some l.a. n*ggaz. i never knew he replaced ren on bang bang ???
i always thought that was eminem on the hook in the watcher.
anyway, yeah ren said he had a verse on there and was replaced by some 'new nigga' that wasn't hittman. i forgot who was on that song over-all..knoc, dre, hitt and that little blurb from eminem and the r and b bitches on the chorus right?
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the "new nigga" could have been TimeBomb. I'm sure Ren killed it. What happend to TimeBomb? He had mad adds for the album that never dropped,with a gang of features.
nah it couldn't of been timebomb, because he wasn't even on bang bang. Timebomb was signed 2 Knoc's label L.A. Confidential. I don't even know what the fuck's up with that label, i never heard that they got shut down, but they must of ???
I heard some tracks he did with Knoc, but besides that nothing
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True,true my bad. I just checked the credits,been such a long time since I listened to that album/track. Knoc killed it,I just remember all those adds for Knoc and TimeBomb's albums. Those comments Ren made is from his interview over at www.thaformula.com ,really dope interview.
what ads for knoc & bomb's albums? ???
thaFormula.com - So it took many years but you finally got back to working with Dre on Chronic 2001. How did that come about?
MC Ren - My homeboy said that Dre wants you to come down, so I went down there and did it. I was rappin' on the muthafucka. I was on another song bustin', but he took me off of it and put this other nigga on it. There was a dude originally on there, but when I came, I got on there. Then niggaz told me that the reason they took me off was because the nigga that was on there was crying about it.
thaFormula.com - That's wack...
MC Ren - You know man. Little bitch shit. Nigga took me off and shit.
ain't no mention of who he could be talkin about?
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True,true my bad. I just checked the credits,been such a long time since I listened to that album/track. Knoc killed it,I just remember all those adds for Knoc and TimeBomb's albums. Those comments Ren made is from his interview over at www.thaformula.com ,really dope interview.
what ads for knoc & bomb's albums? ???
thaFormula.com - So it took many years but you finally got back to working with Dre on Chronic 2001. How did that come about?
MC Ren - My homeboy said that Dre wants you to come down, so I went down there and did it. I was rappin' on the muthafucka. I was on another song bustin', but he took me off of it and put this other nigga on it. There was a dude originally on there, but when I came, I got on there. Then niggaz told me that the reason they took me off was because the nigga that was on there was crying about it.
thaFormula.com - That's wack...
MC Ren - You know man. Little bitch shit. Nigga took me off and shit.
ain't no mention of who he could be talkin about?
i read another interview where he says the song was bang bang. meaning it only could have been hitt or knoc
i seem to recall 'new nigga' in the interview where he actually says the song was bang bang as well. but pretty much the same story.
i remember they were like "they took you off LA niggaz right?" and he's like "nah, i was just talkin on LA niggaz, I was actually rappin on bang bang'
this is from my memory^ but that's what I remember
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True,true my bad. I just checked the credits,been such a long time since I listened to that album/track. Knoc killed it,I just remember all those adds for Knoc and TimeBomb's albums. Those comments Ren made is from his interview over at www.thaformula.com ,really dope interview.
what ads for knoc & bomb's albums? ???
thaFormula.com - So it took many years but you finally got back to working with Dre on Chronic 2001. How did that come about?
MC Ren - My homeboy said that Dre wants you to come down, so I went down there and did it. I was rappin' on the muthafucka. I was on another song bustin', but he took me off of it and put this other nigga on it. There was a dude originally on there, but when I came, I got on there. Then niggaz told me that the reason they took me off was because the nigga that was on there was crying about it.
thaFormula.com - That's wack...
MC Ren - You know man. Little bitch shit. Nigga took me off and shit.
ain't no mention of who he could be talkin about?
i read another interview where he says the song was bang bang. meaning it only could have been hitt or knoc
i seem to recall 'new nigga' in the interview where he actually says the song was bang bang as well. but pretty much the same story.
i remember they were like "they took you off LA niggaz right?" and he's like "nah, i was just talkin on LA niggaz, I was actually rappin on bang bang'
this is from my memory^ but that's what I remember
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it's all good. Whatever, stop catchin feelings ;)
Knoc came extremely nice on the track
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After Detox I hope Dr. Dre retires from releasing his OWN albums and focuses the same attention to detail and top-notch beats on upcoming West Coast artists.
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just wait for detox... i'm not the biggest dre fan but he will show ya. I think it was the same before 2001 dropped, people thought he fell of, but he stopped discussion with his album. And his last beats were still heat (those on Snoop's album are cool), although the
beats he gave to Jay are crap. My only fear is that his new sound will pe poppish and not westcoast anymore.
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I think Dre will make Detox good, not like the throw aways he's giving to other artists right now, but I think it'll be the most overrated album ever just because of the hype.
I doubt Dre will retire for a while. Maybe from hip hop, but he has always tried to break into other genres. The only reason he has kept producing rap songs is Eminem.
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I don't think that Dre invested all of his capability when he made give away beats like Imagine, Lost Ones & etc. Dre doesn't have to show off with these give away beats, because Detox is so anticipated that people would check it out, even all the beats that he gave away would be garbage. I'm not afraid of Detox's beats sounding bad, I'm more worried about what kind of quest appearances it is going to contain.
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I know Jay-Z isn't the most liked rapper around here, but 30-Something & Trouble saved Kingdom Come from being a completely shockingly bad album.
It's funny how we sometimes get these threads about Dre not being so good any more - when that muthafucka so much as farts, there's twenty fools analysing the mixing lol
It says a lot for the other producers out there if Dre's making wack beats, because those wack beats are still ahead of the competition.
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There's gonna be riots all over the world if Dre retires before "Detox".
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Looks Dre is going thru that Dr Dre presents wack Aftermath compilation shit again before he kills it on his next solo lp.
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maybe dre's saving all his best beats for detox ::)
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its obvious that the dre beats from this past year were emails from his vault. he went full time on detox after busta and thats exactly where everyone says he fell off. the production on detox is probably going to be some of his best, the only thing we should be worrying about, if anything are the guests.
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sorry i stated the obvious before i read this topic ^
ren was taken off both la niggaz and bang bang..he rapped on both. bang bang i never heard the story about, but la niggaz was the one where someone complained and got him taken off. i thought it was always xzibit for some reason but i don't remember why.