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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 11, 2007, 11:33:53 AM
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We're back with the second issue of Crooked I's "Hip-Hop Weekly" series, where he will be dropping a new freestyle track every week for the fans to download. Incase you missed to first issue, click here (http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2007/april/crooked_i-straight_to_the_bank_freestyle-(dubcnn).mp3) to download it.
This week, Crooked raps over the "I'm Throwed" beat that Jermaine Dupri did for Paul Wall. Crooked gets real controversial on this one, as he disses the hell out of DMX. This resulted from recent coments DMX made about the West Coast, here is a portion of what X said: "I don't like a lot of West Coast rappers. West Coast rap is too laid back, too focused on marijuana with all the blunts and lowriders. There's nothing honest. There's no hardship in it. Everyone in L.A. that raps has a lowrider and a fat blunt. There's nothin' to make you say, 'I can relate to that.'"
Crooked was one many rappers who took offence to those statements, so he decided to air out his feelings on wax. Download the "I'm Throwed Freestyle" below:
Crooked I - I'm Throwed (Freestyle) (http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2007/april/crooked_i-im_throwed_freestyle-(dubcnn).mp3)
Check back with us next week for the next "Hip-Hop Weekly" track.
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Cool - like it.
"I'm so Todd Smith with it" is a dope line :)
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YEAH SEE THATīS A REAL DUDE HERE HE STAND UP FOR THE WEST , ALOT OF THESE WANNA BEīS ARE SCARD AS FUCK....
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i am really suprised that crooked i dissed him...
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i am really suprised that crooked i dissed him...
me too,but he done that for the westcoast, ya dig??
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Fuck Crack Head X...................
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS N PRISON WATCHN HIS SHOW THAT MUTHAFUCKA WAS CRYIN CUZ HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO LIKE 60 DAYZ OR SOME SHIT LIKE THAT...........
ALL THA HOMIEZ THAT R FACIN LIFE.............. 5YRS......DOIN DIME PIECES......... I ONLY DID 2YRS......
BUT DAMN CRYIN FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS.........CRACK HEAD X IS A STRAIGHT BITCH....
IT'S WEST COAST ALL DAY EVERY DAY...........
CROOKED I RIPPED HIM ARART ON THIS TRACC........GOOD LOOKN OUT.....
WESTCOAST 4LIFE
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"Niggas say 'crack the door' and he starts looking on the floor"...LMAO. Man, Crooked came hard on DMX..rightfully so!
Nice to see Crooked stepping up for the West!
This Hip-Hop Weekly thing is one hell of an idea 8)
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Crooked I is officially the sickest MC out right now! It's a fuckin' CRIME that he hasn't released an album yet.
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^^^^yeah itīs a crime that he hasnīt realsed an album yet... :'(
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thats dope CrookedI stood up for the West Coast it would of been dope if one of the OGs from the West would of released a statement .
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At least somebody had the balls to come out and diss him. He dissed a whole coast of rappers and only one person from the west has said anything so far. That's sad as fuck. To me beef is played out in rap these days, but when something like this happens you gotta respond.
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did u notice crooked shouted out treacherous records at the beginning?
IF there is a label change....must be a joint venture then...
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Bo$$ Of freestyles fo sho!!
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crooked i really go hard on dmx, this is dope as fuck 8)
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Dope, this is much better than last weeks, he went hard on DMX haha.
X don't want it with Dominic.
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who is todd smith? that a sports reference?
i'm at work so i can't listen yet but I'm glad someone dissed X. I hate when people say bad shit about CA/weed
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todd smith is LL Cool J
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oh, he be rappin for the breezies
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Fucking dope
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LOL using that infamous Kurupt line dissing X. That was a no brainer right there. Be interesting to see if DMX can put the crack down long enough to remember Crooked name and the track and remember to do a reply record.
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LOL using that infamous Kurupt line dissing X. That was a no brainer right there. Be interesting to see if DMX can put the crack down long enough to remember Crooked name and the track and remember to do a reply record.
lmao.
Don't even bother mista crack head :laugh:
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I'm sure DMX will dismiss him as a dude that's never gone plat etc. but we all know what's really up.
I just hope TLO Rage hears what DMX said cause she praises him all the time.
-T
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I'm sure DMX will dismiss him as a dude that's never gone plat etc. but we all know what's really up.
I just hope TLO Rage hears what DMX said cause she praises him all the time.
-T
Man Rage would murder his ass lyrically.
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LOL using that infamous Kurupt line dissing X. That was a no brainer right there. Be interesting to see if DMX can put the crack down long enough to remember Crooked name and the track and remember to do a reply record.
lmao.
Don't even bother mista crack head :laugh:
He must have got some of that good cocaine from Peru or Columbia to say some dumb shit like he did.
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DOPE!!!!!! fuck DMX
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i been waiting for someone to react to what x said, and theres no one better than crooked too!
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nice!
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and i saw ppl hating when i dropped the news yesterday now they all over this shit lmao........crooked got heat fuck the haterz
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and i saw ppl hating when i dropped the news yesterday now they all over this shit lmao........crooked got heat fuck the haterz
I never hate on dude, I'm a prime believer that Boss is coming 8)
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and i saw ppl hating when i dropped the news yesterday now they all over this shit lmao........crooked got heat fuck the haterz
i like crooked...but that shit u posted was bullshit lets be real
All these weak ass crooked i announcements lately..."im announcing that next week ima make an announcement that i cant announce what i was gonna say in the first place"
even crooked gotta know its bullshit...if he wanna do that hollywood shit tell him to get a pr, im not hating we all love crooked's music im just saying what were all thinking!
we want music we dont want a countdown to the damn music...nobody here is gonna mark their calender for a freestyle or call in sick to work over it lol
It might sound hateful but its really not...
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Nice! Thnx!!!
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and i saw ppl hating when i dropped the news yesterday now they all over this shit lmao........crooked got heat fuck the haterz
All these weak ass crooked i announcements lately..."im announcing that next week ima make an announcement that i cant announce what i was gonna say in the first place"
even crooked gotta know its bullshit...if he wanna do that hollywood shit tell him to get a pr, im not hating we all love crooked's music im just saying what were all thinking!
we want music we dont want a countdown to the damn music...nobody here is gonna mark their calender for a freestyle or call in sick to work over it lol
It might sound hateful but its really not...
PREACH LMAO +1
-T
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and i saw ppl hating when i dropped the news yesterday now they all over this shit lmao........crooked got heat fuck the haterz
i like crooked...but that shit u posted was bullshit lets be real
All these weak ass crooked i announcements lately..."im announcing that next week ima make an announcement that i cant announce what i was gonna say in the first place"
even crooked gotta know its bullshit...if he wanna do that hollywood shit tell him to get a pr, im not hating we all love crooked's music im just saying what were all thinking!
we want music we dont want a countdown to the damn music...nobody here is gonna mark their calender for a freestyle or call in sick to work over it lol
It might sound hateful but its really not...
WELL IMO MY POST SPECIFACALLY WASNT BULLSHIT IT STATED NEWS THAT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN I HAVE NEVER STATED NEWS THAT DIDNT HAPPEN...
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@ Age...is there a way on ordering an "official" copy with the artwork and whatnot?
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and i saw ppl hating when i dropped the news yesterday now they all over this shit lmao........crooked got heat fuck the haterz
i like crooked...but that shit u posted was bullshit lets be real
All these weak ass crooked i announcements lately..."im announcing that next week ima make an announcement that i cant announce what i was gonna say in the first place"
even crooked gotta know its bullshit...if he wanna do that hollywood shit tell him to get a pr, im not hating we all love crooked's music im just saying what were all thinking!
we want music we dont want a countdown to the damn music...nobody here is gonna mark their calender for a freestyle or call in sick to work over it lol
It might sound hateful but its really not...
WELL IMO MY POST SPECIFACALLY WASNT BULLSHIT IT STATED NEWS THAT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN I HAVE NEVER STATED NEWS THAT DIDNT HAPPEN...
like i said nobody here wants a 24 hour countdown to a 2 minute freestyle, thats why people were posting negative comments in your thread
it wasnt hatefull at all, people are just tired of these lame crooked announcements and they were 1 thread from cussing crooked out and you just happen to be the unlucky person to make that thread, dont take it personal...take it as feedback and perhaps pass it on to crooked
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yeah it just means we like crooked so much that we would like to be able to support him at the record shop
-T
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and i saw ppl hating when i dropped the news yesterday now they all over this shit lmao........crooked got heat fuck the haterz
i like crooked...but that shit u posted was bullshit lets be real
All these weak ass crooked i announcements lately..."im announcing that next week ima make an announcement that i cant announce what i was gonna say in the first place"
even crooked gotta know its bullshit...if he wanna do that hollywood shit tell him to get a pr, im not hating we all love crooked's music im just saying what were all thinking!
we want music we dont want a countdown to the damn music...nobody here is gonna mark their calender for a freestyle or call in sick to work over it lol
It might sound hateful but its really not...
WELL IMO MY POST SPECIFACALLY WASNT BULLSHIT IT STATED NEWS THAT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN I HAVE NEVER STATED NEWS THAT DIDNT HAPPEN...
like i said nobody here wants a 24 hour countdown to a 2 minute freestyle, thats why people were posting negative comments in your thread
it wasnt hatefull at all, people are just tired of these lame crooked announcements and they were 1 thread from cussing crooked out and you just happen to be the unlucky person to make that thread, dont take it personal...take it as feedback and perhaps pass it on to crooked
I feel what you sayin but dont shoot the messanger is what i hear ppl say these days lol but its coo im straight man
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@ Age...is there a way on ordering an "official" copy with the artwork and whatnot?
get at me man what exactly you lookin for etc in a PM where your located etc
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See What The Fuck Im Saying!!!! Ha HA HA hA!! I told ya fools!! Fuck DMX and fuck the bitches who had a problem wit me saying that shit on the last Post!! Forgot who they were but im pretty sure you fools got my point!! I was just riding for the westside Biaiaiatch like the homie Crooked I!!!Crooked I Crooked I!!!
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Dope freestyle, he got at both of 'em good...I can't wait for next week's mp3... 8)
and i saw ppl hating when i dropped the news yesterday now they all over this shit lmao........crooked got heat fuck the haterz
^It's a shame man...I'll admit I was disappointed that it didn't drop last year and that there isn't a real release date yet, but like I said in your other thread, I still look for Crook's new shit & I'll definitely be waitin' for that BOSS album to drop, I'm still a big fan of his... 8)
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and i saw ppl hating when i dropped the news yesterday now they all over this shit lmao........crooked got heat fuck the haterz
i like crooked...but that shit u posted was bullshit lets be real
All these weak ass crooked i announcements lately..."im announcing that next week ima make an announcement that i cant announce what i was gonna say in the first place"
even crooked gotta know its bullshit...if he wanna do that hollywood shit tell him to get a pr, im not hating we all love crooked's music im just saying what were all thinking!
we want music we dont want a countdown to the damn music...nobody here is gonna mark their calender for a freestyle or call in sick to work over it lol
It might sound hateful but its really not...
you post something like this in the crooked i forum you get labeled a hater
id +1 ya if i could
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who is that other dude crooked i disses on it? and why?
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nice....but it would be better if he used a og beat
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DMX makes some comments about the west and crooked gets >:( but when Snoop served him on a plate he bowed down and drops a song praising the west artists including snoop... ::)
shyts disgusting..
"Its Dark and Hell is hot" >>>> Crookeds entire career
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yeah it just means we like crooked so much that we would like to be able to support him at the record shop
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--So true!!
props for That!
+1
Blu!
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who is that other dude crooked i disses on it? and why?
Don Imus - he's been in the news for calling the black women of a basketball team "nappy-headed hoes".
I think it wouldve been much better if Crooked I focuse his diss track more on Imus cause it just a bigger issue...especially since disrespecting women since to be part of hiphop nowadays. And plus really at the end of the day, DMX was just stating his opinion.
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great to see thread on dubcc with crooked i mentioned and no people hating. crooked i respond was great, he reacted perfect. i mean comparing crooked i with dmx inna way "crook didnt released shit, dmx is platinum" is bullshit. crooked i stood up fro whole westcoast and smashed dmx with this. this is what they call one shot kill hehe..anyway great to see yall reacted positive on this..crooked reads this shit np doubt like he xplained in "straight to the bank" freestyle...
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great to see thread on dubcc with crooked i mentioned and no people hating. crooked i respond was great, he reacted perfect. i mean comparing crooked i with dmx inna way "crook didnt released shit, dmx is platinum" is bullshit. crooked i stood up fro whole westcoast and smashed dmx with this. this is what they call one shot kill hehe..anyway great to see yall reacted positive on this..crooked reads this shit np doubt like he xplained in "straight to the bank" freestyle...
Maybe u forgot to read my post or just ignored it but imo all DMX did was say he don't like the musical style of the west. He did not directly attack anyone so whats wrong with that? its his opinion.
I find it hilarious that crooked hears someones opinion on music and first thing he does is run to the booth and drop a diss track.
Dude should have the same energy to run to the booth and an album.
Snoop smashed Crooked DIRECTLY but i didn't see Crooked drop no diss track to him days later.
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It's nice diss track. Crooked comes correct as usual. But to an extent, I have to agree with DMX. There are too many clones on the west coast. I don't wanna buy albums from a 100 different west coast cats that have 16 tracks each and every one of them is talking about their bitches, their cars, or how much weed they smoke.
There's an MC Ren thread on this forum right now (what's Ren's best lp). And one of the tracks people keep talking about is the Ren and Cube collabo from "Ruthless 4 Life." Well, if you listen to Ren's part, he's addressing the same thing I think X was talking about. People rapping about "smoking a million blunts a day, shootin' a hundred niggas, and sayin't they walked away/without a scratch, some Rambo-shit, it's outta hand..." Maybe from Crooked's perspective, it's a case of the west coast is our coast, so it's okay for one of our own to criticise. And to a degree, I guess I can buy that. Still, it doesn't mean that what X said doesn't ring true.
It think if Crooked really wanted to show DMX what's up, in addition to the diss, he should release another song like "Nobody Understands Me." That song right there shows that you can't put Crooked I in the category of boring, generic, westcoast rapper who has nothing original to say.
I still appreciate Crooked I standing up for the west, cause there's a lot of legitimate talent out there. You can't really lump the whole coast into one category. And DMX should understand that the reason there's a lot of garbage from the west coast on the radio and t.v. is the same reason there's a lot of garbage from the east on the radio and on t.v. And it's actually pretty simple. People don't get music deals on skill alone. If they did the whole music scene would be a million times better, but that's just the way it is. Anyone who gets on the internet and looks, knows they can always find good music on here. Crooked I is a prime example. Dude's got a million good mp3s, and not one retail cd to show for it.
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Maybe u forgot to read my post or just ignored it but imo all DMX did was say he don't like the musical style of the west. He did not directly attack anyone so whats wrong with that? its his opinion.
I find it hilarious that crooked hears someones opinion on music and first thing he does is run to the booth and drop a diss track.
Dude should have the same energy to run to the booth and an album.
Snoop smashed Crooked DIRECTLY but i didn't see Crooked drop no diss track to him days later.
In mid-2006, Snoop was interviewed by Nima @ dubcnn about his thoughts on West Coast Unity, blah blah blah... when Nima asked Snoop what his thoughts were on Crooked I, Snoop basically dissed him. In other words, he looked like a hypocrite talking all peaceful about stopping all of the intercoastal beefing going on in the West, yet can't extend the olive branch to Crooked I. WTF??
A day or two after the Snoop interview, Nima caught up with Crooked I and wanted his response to Snoop's interview, to which Crooked tried to reach out to Snoop by wanting to meet up with him personally and settling their differences once and for all. He was then quoted as saying that "West Coast Unity isn't possible if you exclude Crooked I." To this day, Snoop hasn't replied to Crooked's dubcnn interview.
So a couple months go by, and Crooked dropped L.A. City freestyle, which was full of subliminal shots @ Snoop. Snoop still ain't gotten back to Crooked on it. But the freestyle was all too obvious who he's referring to. You should download it since you're under the false impression that Crooked ain't done anything about it. Because you're wrong, dude. He has, it's just Snoop ain't trying to go there with him at the moment.
Here's my opinion for why Snoop ain't responded to Crooked's peace attempt as well as the L.A. City freestyle. Because it would make him look stupid for trying to gather up the whole West Coast on some "peace & love, stop the intercoastal beefing" antic, while he excludes a fellow West Coaster from the mix.
Yep props you layed it down pretty good hopefully the hater was able this 8)
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DMX makes some comments about the west and crooked gets >:( but when Snoop served him on a plate he bowed down and drops a song praising the west artists including snoop... ::)
shyts disgusting..
"Its Dark and Hell is hot" >>>> Crookeds entire career
every dogg has its day his will come tooo..its the art of war u just have to do it right
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rue.
It think if Crooked really wanted to show DMX what's up, in addition to the diss, he should release another song like "Nobody Understands Me." That song right there shows that you can't put Crooked I in the category of boring, generic, westcoast rapper who has nothing original to say.
Release it on what? ??? You think X is really gonna listen to a mixtape from a "little" west coast artist?
Unless he actually acknowledge Crooked I, then that would be different. But When X was speakin about the west, Im pretty he was referring to the perception of it that we all see on TV (Snoop being the prime represenative).
I remember Crooked I sayin shit that was similar to what DMX said in an interview a few years back, bascially sayin that theres more to the West than what the general public perceives (everybody thinkin its all about Roger Troutman/PFunk samples and shit, etc etc) but they dont know because its hard for other west coast artists and makes it big - this was before Game came and supposedly "brought the west back".
And I remember when Snoop actually told Dubcc in an interview that the only way west coast artists would blow up is if they got his "stamp of approval".
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It's nice diss track. Crooked comes correct as usual. But to an extent, I have to agree with DMX. There are too many clones on the west coast. I don't wanna buy albums from a 100 different west coast cats that have 16 tracks each and every one of them is talking about their bitches, their cars, or how much weed they smoke.
There's an MC Ren thread on this forum right now (what's Ren's best lp). And one of the tracks people keep talking about is the Ren and Cube collabo from "Ruthless 4 Life." Well, if you listen to Ren's part, he's addressing the same thing I think X was talking about. People rapping about "smoking a million blunts a day, shootin' a hundred niggas, and sayin't they walked away/without a scratch, some Rambo-shit, it's outta hand..." Maybe from Crooked's perspective, it's a case of the west coast is our coast, so it's okay for one of our own to criticise. And to a degree, I guess I can buy that. Still, it doesn't mean that what X said doesn't ring true.
It think if Crooked really wanted to show DMX what's up, in addition to the diss, he should release another song like "Nobody Understands Me." That song right there shows that you can't put Crooked I in the category of boring, generic, westcoast rapper who has nothing original to say.
I still appreciate Crooked I standing up for the west, cause there's a lot of legitimate talent out there. You can't really lump the whole coast into one category. And DMX should understand that the reason there's a lot of garbage from the west coast on the radio and t.v. is the same reason there's a lot of garbage from the east on the radio and on t.v. And it's actually pretty simple. People don't get music deals on skill alone. If they did the whole music scene would be a million times better, but that's just the way it is. Anyone who gets on the internet and looks, knows they can always find good music on here. Crooked I is a prime example. Dude's got a million good mp3s, and not one retail cd to show for it.
The Ren example could apply to any rapper from any coast. DMX applied his blanket statement to a whole coast. Which I find funny because we have a very diverse hip hop culture out here, it's the same old story, the gangsta rap gets all the airtime. It was just a matter of time a mc was going to step up to the plate and say something about it. Would have been funny if Kurupt dissed him again.
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DON'T FORGET THIS IS ONLY A FREESTYLE!! and it's so dope!
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DON'T FORGET THIS IS ONLY A FREESTYLE!!
Don't forget, this is all Crooked I ever releases ::)
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Maybe u forgot to read my post or just ignored it but imo all DMX did was say he don't like the musical style of the west. He did not directly attack anyone so whats wrong with that? its his opinion.
I find it hilarious that crooked hears someones opinion on music and first thing he does is run to the booth and drop a diss track.
Dude should have the same energy to run to the booth and an album.
Snoop smashed Crooked DIRECTLY but i didn't see Crooked drop no diss track to him days later.
So a couple months go by, and Crooked dropped L.A. City freestyle, which was full of subliminal shots @ Snoop. Snoop still ain't gotten back to Crooked on it. But the freestyle was all too obvious who he's referring to. You should download it since you're under the false impression that Crooked ain't done anything about it. Because you're wrong, dude. He has, it's just Snoop ain't trying to go there with him at the moment.
So u saying it took crooked I a couple of MONTHS before he dropped a freestyle responding to snoop after being dissed by NAME and when DMX give his opinion about west coast it took him a couple of DAYS.
Now thats what i call laughable, maybe the reason snoop never responded is as u say "months" went by and snoop forgot about the whole thing and got on with his life.
I was a fan of crooked I in the late 90's but dudes the biggest joke in west coast hip hop now.
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DON'T FORGET THIS IS ONLY A FREESTYLE!!
Don't forget, this is all Crooked I ever releases ::)
meaning it's so dope,and imagine how dope would it be if he would wrote the lyrics and record over his beat!
there are 100's of dope mc's on tha west that never released an album,...only featured as guests on some songs...it's like that! at least we got 2 mixtapes and 1000 of other songs! he is still young,has his fanbase...hope he we get tha album soon!
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he is still young? damn...how old is dude?
Episcop, you are a cool dude and a true fan but surely you realize no one actually hates Crooked, we just want to pick up his album someday and anything negative that comes from us is just the frustration of not being able to do so. it means we like him alot. it's like when the president gets elected and then goes on a 3 month extended vacation, it's like 'wtf?' how you gonna come out like "i'm the illest....see you someday" when nas spit live at the BBQ he was the how new buzz and within a couple years he had Illmatic and it's been on for the don since. Crooked had that oppurtunity at least twice, maybe thrice..it's just a shame man. No one is hating on Crooked, we're hating on the situation.
as for dude that keeps saying Crooked is laughable for dissing DMX quickly and snoop slowly...did you ever read the interview where Crooked responds to snoop on dubcnn? it's one of the realest most mature discussions/dialogues/speeches that Nima has ever provoked and since then i have as much respect/admiration for crooked as I do for snoop. I still feel like snoop is a child for not responding to him but I mean...since then, snoop did approve the west coast remix of one blood ane that has crooked and snoop so that's progress.
also, didn't snoop and crooked/daz/soopa do that poor man's cry with barrington levy years ago?
anyway, even though DMX was just stating his opinion...he stated it haphazardly and poorly. You have to speak more eloquently when speaking on a whole coast. to say some shit like that about a whole coast without qualifying your statements is asking for trouble. i could see him saying "I don't feel most cats from the west" or "alot of people out west are the same..." but he just said "I ain't feelin noone, it's all the same and nobody can relate" it's like WTF? Clear bias. East Coast cats like to act like the WC is a fad they can dismiss because they figure they started it and they'll be here in the end but somebody (crooked in this case) has to step in and remind them that we ain't goin' nowhere. DMX's early shit is cool but two things:
1)it doesn't fuck with crooked's rapping at all
2)there's nothing you can get out of his music that you can't get out of pac's music and pac's music offers even more.
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also, dude that keeps dissing crooked for dissing DMX quickly and snoop slowly...did you hear the song 'respect your ogs'? he's paying dues, explaining exactly why he has to pay dues and respect regardless. and VERY few rappers do that, it's maaad real of crooked to do that DESPITE his OG dissing him. Cause he KNOWS if snoop didn't do what snoop did, crooked and every other crip from long beach would not have the oppurtunity to make big rap albums.
-T
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What Crook needs to do is end the beef with Snoop and let him oversee, manage, and produce his debut album. Can you imagine(no pun intended) our favorite westcoast lyricist over niggarachi's platinum beats lol..... :D
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What Crook needs to do is end the beef with Snoop and let him oversee, manage, and produce his debut album. Can you imagine(no pun intended) our favorite westcoast lyricist over niggarachi's platinum beats lol..... :D
Snoop dont wanna end nothing with that nigga...or even properly acknowledge him.
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whoever this dude is in here trying to compare snoop and crooked problems to DMX talkin salty about the West u sound stupid homie, your analogy is all fucked up Snoop and Crooked are from the same City, State, and Coast.....Crooked I respects Snoop for helping pave the way for himself cause he reps LB, and for being a OG Westcoast Legend....Now DMX is a eastcoast crackhead who gets no passes dissin the Coast, fuck that dude, if it wasn't for the West none of these niggas would know about rappin bout reality ever heard of NWA??? Another thing is All regions rap about smoking fuckin weed How high is two Eastcoast niggas song and movie, the south all they rap about is cars but this clown chose the West to alienate on that bullshit?? Come on get the fuck out of here........
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man...so nas and cormega beefed from 96 to 2006? and that's why Nature is in the firm and not mega? i think i get it...why they beef?
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man...so nas and cormega beefed from 96 to 2006? and that's why Nature is in the firm and not mega? i think i get it...why they beef?
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[Nas let him guest on a song entitled "Affirmative Action" for his second album It Was Written. The song also featured AZ and Foxy Brown, and became The Firm's first appearance. Based on his performance, he was signed to Def Jam and recorded an album called The Testament. Based on the buzz from "Affirmative Action," Nas, his manager Steve Stoute and producers Dr. Dre and Trackmasters joined to produce The Firm. Cormega was replaced with another artist, Nature, because either he would not sign a contract with Stoute or Stoute felt Nature was a better rapper. This led to an alleged altercation between Cormega and Nature. Cormega's dispute with Stoute also ended his friendship with Nas.]
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he is still young? damn...how old is dude?
Episcop, you are a cool dude and a true fan but surely you realize no one actually hates Crooked, we just want to pick up his album someday and anything negative that comes from us is just the frustration of not being able to do so. it means we like him alot. it's like when the president gets elected and then goes on a 3 month extended vacation, it's like 'wtf?' how you gonna come out like "i'm the illest....see you someday" when nas spit live at the BBQ he was the how new buzz and within a couple years he had Illmatic and it's been on for the don since. Crooked had that oppurtunity at least twice, maybe thrice..it's just a shame man. No one is hating on Crooked, we're hating on the situation.
as for dude that keeps saying Crooked is laughable for dissing DMX quickly and snoop slowly...did you ever read the interview where Crooked responds to snoop on dubcnn? it's one of the realest most mature discussions/dialogues/speeches that Nima has ever provoked and since then i have as much respect/admiration for crooked as I do for snoop. I still feel like snoop is a child for not responding to him but I mean...since then, snoop did approve the west coast remix of one blood ane that has crooked and snoop so that's progress.
also, didn't snoop and crooked/daz/soopa do that poor man's cry with barrington levy years ago?
anyway, even though DMX was just stating his opinion...he stated it haphazardly and poorly. You have to speak more eloquently when speaking on a whole coast. to say some shit like that about a whole coast without qualifying your statements is asking for trouble. i could see him saying "I don't feel most cats from the west" or "alot of people out west are the same..." but he just said "I ain't feelin noone, it's all the same and nobody can relate" it's like WTF? Clear bias. East Coast cats like to act like the WC is a fad they can dismiss because they figure they started it and they'll be here in the end but somebody (crooked in this case) has to step in and remind them that we ain't goin' nowhere. DMX's early shit is cool but two things:
1)it doesn't fuck with crooked's rapping at all
2)there's nothing you can get out of his music that you can't get out of pac's music and pac's music offers even more.
-T
You're right about that "Poor Man Cry" track. They also dropped "Crookz and Doggz" together with TechN9ne. But I think that was a while back.
I completely agree, regarding the Crooked I interview with Nima. At least, for Crooked's part. It really seemed like he was trying to extend an olive branch to Snoop, even in spite of some of the things Snoop has said about him. In the end, it kind of seemed like Snoop was still being petty about the situation, but Crooked was showing a lot of class. That's why, to me, it means more if Crooked just keeps on making music like "Nobody Understand Me" and "My Life." Yeah, the DMX diss was cool. His freestyles are cool. But when he actually drops songs like the ones I just mentioned, it really shows that he has some depth. Of course, DMX probably won't listen to those songs. But on that same token, do you think DMX is really checkin' for any Crooked I diss tracks either? For that matter, does X even know who Crooked I is ? What matters is that Crooked I keeps showing his fans that he can consistently come up with good music.
Now, on the other hand. I'm not changing my opinion on what DMX said. I agree that he didn't word his statements as eloquently as he should have. But as it concerns some west coast rappers, some of it rings true. There are some westcoast rappers that aren't bringing anything original to the table. The quote from Ren was just one example. And yes, maybe it doesn't single out anyone, exclusively. But I'm sure his comments were directed at least, in part at some from the west. But we can look at the flipside of that coin too. There are a lot of eastcoast rappers that have perpetuated equally annoying habbits. Such as rapping, almost exclusively, about how expensive their watch is, or how much money they spent on their clothes,champaign, etc. I'm equally sure that this contributes just as little to the genre as only rapping about one's car.
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nice diss to dmx, not sure why he dissin inus when crooked i raps bout hoes non stop.
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he is still young? damn...how old is dude?
Episcop, you are a cool dude and a true fan but surely you realize no one actually hates Crooked, we just want to pick up his album someday and anything negative that comes from us is just the frustration of not being able to do so. it means we like him alot. it's like when the president gets elected and then goes on a 3 month extended vacation, it's like 'wtf?' how you gonna come out like "i'm the illest....see you someday" when nas spit live at the BBQ he was the how new buzz and within a couple years he had Illmatic and it's been on for the don since. Crooked had that oppurtunity at least twice, maybe thrice..it's just a shame man. No one is hating on Crooked, we're hating on the situation.
as for dude that keeps saying Crooked is laughable for dissing DMX quickly and snoop slowly...did you ever read the interview where Crooked responds to snoop on dubcnn? it's one of the realest most mature discussions/dialogues/speeches that Nima has ever provoked and since then i have as much respect/admiration for crooked as I do for snoop. I still feel like snoop is a child for not responding to him but I mean...since then, snoop did approve the west coast remix of one blood ane that has crooked and snoop so that's progress.
also, didn't snoop and crooked/daz/soopa do that poor man's cry with barrington levy years ago?
anyway, even though DMX was just stating his opinion...he stated it haphazardly and poorly. You have to speak more eloquently when speaking on a whole coast. to say some shit like that about a whole coast without qualifying your statements is asking for trouble. i could see him saying "I don't feel most cats from the west" or "alot of people out west are the same..." but he just said "I ain't feelin noone, it's all the same and nobody can relate" it's like WTF? Clear bias. East Coast cats like to act like the WC is a fad they can dismiss because they figure they started it and they'll be here in the end but somebody (crooked in this case) has to step in and remind them that we ain't goin' nowhere. DMX's early shit is cool but two things:
1)it doesn't fuck with crooked's rapping at all
2)there's nothing you can get out of his music that you can't get out of pac's music and pac's music offers even more.
-T
You're right about that "Poor Man Cry" track. They also dropped "Crookz and Doggz" together with TechN9ne. But I think that was a while back.
I completely agree, regarding the Crooked I interview with Nima. At least, for Crooked's part. It really seemed like he was trying to extend an olive branch to Snoop, even in spite of some of the things Snoop has said about him. In the end, it kind of seemed like Snoop was still being petty about the situation, but Crooked was showing a lot of class. That's why, to me, it means more if Crooked just keeps on making music like "Nobody Understand Me" and "My Life." Yeah, the DMX diss was cool. His freestyles are cool. But when he actually drops songs like the ones I just mentioned, it really shows that he has some depth. Of course, DMX probably won't listen to those songs. But on that same token, do you think DMX is really checkin' for any Crooked I diss tracks either? For that matter, does X even know who Crooked I is ? What matters is that Crooked I keeps showing his fans that he can consistently come up with good music.
Now, on the other hand. I'm not changing my opinion on what DMX said. I agree that he didn't word his statements as eloquently as he should have. But as it concerns some west coast rappers, some of it rings true. There are some westcoast rappers that aren't bringing anything original to the table. The quote from Ren was just one example. And yes, maybe it doesn't single out anyone, exclusively. But I'm sure his comments were directed at least, in part at some from the west. But we can look at the flipside of that coin too. There are a lot of eastcoast rappers that have perpetuated equally annoying habbits. Such as rapping, almost exclusively, about how expensive their watch is, or how much money they spent on their clothes,champaign, etc. I'm equally sure that this contributes just as little to the genre as only rapping about one's car.
any californian can relate to coastin blunted. not any new yorker can relate to flossing in the big city
weed cliches>>>>>>>>bling cliches
but I feel most of your post man, hell yeah.
nice diss to dmx, not sure why he dissin inus when crooked i raps bout hoes non stop.
check the post about snoop distinguishing gangsta rap from Imus. furthermore...who is Imus?
-T
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crooked came flow on that...he killed that beat for joke...sad nobody releasing good rapper right now....next up cashis is comin out but...this nigga got left behing cuz his shit 2 good
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Tanj,
+1 for your posts here. :)
props
-T
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Crooked I still is the shit 8) Dope track, D.M.X. got what he deserved...