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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 18, 2007, 11:07:54 PM
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How do you like them apples? 8)
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He's a great scorer, among at least the top 10-15 ever.
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K B ! ready for the playoffs
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He's a great scorer, among at least the top 10-15 ever.
10-15? That's an insult.
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he's arguably at least the 2nd best behind Wilt.. he has the most offensive skills of all the time without a doubt.. tell me what he can't do offensive wise .. nothing
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there's no doubt he's the most dominating shooting guard the league historically has ever had (you can calibrate jordan and kobe and say that they're just as good as each other offensively. and i can't help it, being the shaq fan i am, to think he got that mentallity from shaq. but the one thing he can't do that he should've learned from shaq is; the ability to lead BIG time. kobe got too frustrated with the wait to be top dog that he's still got that mentality that he's got something to proove. those row of games arn't nothing but trying to proove something to the league of his status of top dog. screw that, he's got the ability to loaf and still be the 'top dog' , but he's got the ability to LEAD as well....he just hasn't realized it yet.
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there's no doubt he's the most dominating shooting guard the league historically has ever had (you can calibrate jordan and kobe and say that they're just as good as each other offensively. and i can't help it, being the shaq fan i am, to think he got that mentallity from shaq. but the one thing he can't do that he should've learned from shaq is; the ability to lead BIG time. kobe got too frustrated with the wait to be top dog that he's still got that mentality that he's got something to proove. those row of games arn't nothing but trying to proove something to the league of his status of top dog. screw that, he's got the ability to loaf and still be the 'top dog' , but he's got the ability to LEAD as well....he just hasn't realized it yet.
Ummm, last I checked, Kobe just led a team of battered NBDL players to the playoffs...For a second year straight. LOL.
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there's no doubt he's the most dominating shooting guard the league historically has ever had (you can calibrate jordan and kobe and say that they're just as good as each other offensively. and i can't help it, being the shaq fan i am, to think he got that mentallity from shaq. but the one thing he can't do that he should've learned from shaq is; the ability to lead BIG time. kobe got too frustrated with the wait to be top dog that he's still got that mentality that he's got something to proove. those row of games arn't nothing but trying to proove something to the league of his status of top dog. screw that, he's got the ability to loaf and still be the 'top dog' , but he's got the ability to LEAD as well....he just hasn't realized it yet.
Ummm, last I checked, Kobe just led a team of battered NBDL players to the playoffs...For a second year straight. LOL.
You said Lamar and Kwame are all-stars.
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there's no doubt he's the most dominating shooting guard the league historically has ever had (you can calibrate jordan and kobe and say that they're just as good as each other offensively. and i can't help it, being the shaq fan i am, to think he got that mentallity from shaq. but the one thing he can't do that he should've learned from shaq is; the ability to lead BIG time. kobe got too frustrated with the wait to be top dog that he's still got that mentality that he's got something to proove. those row of games arn't nothing but trying to proove something to the league of his status of top dog. screw that, he's got the ability to loaf and still be the 'top dog' , but he's got the ability to LEAD as well....he just hasn't realized it yet.
Ummm, last I checked, Kobe just led a team of battered NBDL players to the playoffs...For a second year straight. LOL.
You said Lamar and Kwame are all-stars.
Lamar is an all-star caliber player and Kwame has POTENTIAL to be an all-star caliber player. :-*
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Lamar is POTENTIALLY an all-star caliber player. Kwame has THE BODY to be POTENTIALLY an all-star caliber player. But he still need to work really hard before he can even be considered POTENTIALLY an all-star caliber player. He's a good defensive player tho.
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there's no doubt he's the most dominating shooting guard the league historically has ever had (you can calibrate jordan and kobe and say that they're just as good as each other offensively. and i can't help it, being the shaq fan i am, to think he got that mentallity from shaq. but the one thing he can't do that he should've learned from shaq is; the ability to lead BIG time. kobe got too frustrated with the wait to be top dog that he's still got that mentality that he's got something to proove. those row of games arn't nothing but trying to proove something to the league of his status of top dog. screw that, he's got the ability to loaf and still be the 'top dog' , but he's got the ability to LEAD as well....he just hasn't realized it yet.
and shaq led a lessor team back into the playoffs when the 'top dog' was out.
it's not that kobe can't lead, it's that he can't maintain a leadership role. the lakers lets face it have been sloppy as hell. and you can't say that they're injured still because every important piece is back. they've just been on a bad slide and all i can do is sit back and HOPE they get it together for pheonix
Ummm, last I checked, Kobe just led a team of battered NBDL players to the playoffs...For a second year straight. LOL.
You said Lamar and Kwame are all-stars.
Lamar is an all-star caliber player and Kwame has POTENTIAL to be an all-star caliber player. :-*
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Ummm, last I checked, Kobe just led a team of battered NBDL players to the playoffs...For a second year straight. LOL.
NIK is right. Kobe is playing with a group of lazy bumbs. I don't even think Odom is that good. Kobe draws so much attention that they get a lot of open looks, and they don't make many of them anyway.
I don't like the way the Lakers play. They have one star, and the rest of the guys are going to have journeyman carears in the NBA of changing from team to team, injuries, and going back and forth from being starters to being bench players.
I think Kobe is the best player in NBA history behind Jordan. Well behind Jordan. Because Jordan was a smarter team player than Kobe, Jordan was intense EVEN IN PRACTICE.. he punched Steve Kerr once in PRACTICE.. and was always yelling at them cause he demanded perfection from them EVEN IN PRACTICE... okay, you get my point.
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Ummm, last I checked, Kobe just led a team of battered NBDL players to the playoffs...For a second year straight. LOL.
NIK is right. Kobe is playing with a group of lazy bumbs. I don't even think Odom is that good. Kobe draws so much attention that they get a lot of open looks, and they don't make many of them anyway.
I don't like the way the Lakers play. They have one star, and the rest of the guys are going to have journeyman carears in the NBA of changing from team to team, injuries, and going back and forth from being starters to being bench players.
I think Kobe is the best player in NBA history behind Jordan. Well behind Jordan. Because Jordan was a smarter team player than Kobe, Jordan was intense EVEN IN PRACTICE.. he punched Steve Kerr once in PRACTICE.. and was always yelling at them cause he demanded perfection from them EVEN IN PRACTICE... okay, you get my point.
the lakers arn't bums
odom is a great player
walton is a fantastic player
bynum and farmar will be future stars
turiaf is a perfect replacement from d. george
then kobe of corse is the best player in the league.
but i do agree that he can't lead the TEAM to success....he can lead himself there , but he doesn't lead the team there....kobe went 42-40 imo not the lakers
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kobe went 42-40 imo not the lakers
and that's his big problem. he has to be able to only take like 16 shots and still win. you can't win deep in the playoffs with a one-man show.
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^^Kobe can't lead a team to success? Where's your proof...Put Kobe in place of a Dirk or a Duncan, and that team is FOR SURE champions. Kobe's a natural born leader, homie, that's why Shaq couldn't handle him... Kobe is just as hard a worker as Jordan was, if not harder. Kobe is KNOWN for his intense work ethic. And how does punching Steve Kerr in practice make Jordan a "better team player"? LOL.
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kobe went 42-40 imo not the lakers
and that's his big problem. he has to be able to only take like 16 shots and still win. you can't win deep in the playoffs with a one-man show.
Yea...His biggest problem is that he doesn't have an experienced team working with him. That's FAR from his fault though...And I dunno how far your memory goes back, but the Lakers were winning with Kobe playing the distributor in the first half of the season.
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^^Kobe can't lead a team to success? Where's your proof...Put Kobe in place of a Dirk or a Duncan, and that team is FOR SURE champions. Kobe's a natural born leader, homie, that's why Shaq couldn't handle him... Kobe is just as hard a worker as Jordan was, if not harder. Kobe is KNOWN for his intense work ethic. And how does punching Steve Kerr in practice make Jordan a "better team player"? LOL.
It shows how intense Jordan was, even in practice. Most players (like Iverson) try to find ways to get out of practice.
I do agree that if Kobe was in place of Dirk or Duncan they would win the championship for sure. But I don't think Kobe would have won the championships if he had been in Jordan's place in the 90's
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kobe went 42-40 imo not the lakers
and that's his big problem. he has to be able to only take like 16 shots and still win. you can't win deep in the playoffs with a one-man show.
Yea...His biggest problem is that he doesn't have an experienced team working with him. That's FAR from his fault though...And I dunno how far your memory goes back, but the Lakers were winning with Kobe playing the distributor in the first half of the season.
And that's when I started to get respect for Kobe. But he went back to that 50-points-a-game-crap. :D
And don't tell me that he HAS to score like that to take the W. Cause if that's the case, it IS a problem... no matter if it's his fault or not.
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^^Kobe can't lead a team to success? Where's your proof...Put Kobe in place of a Dirk or a Duncan, and that team is FOR SURE champions. Kobe's a natural born leader, homie, that's why Shaq couldn't handle him... Kobe is just as hard a worker as Jordan was, if not harder. Kobe is KNOWN for his intense work ethic. And how does punching Steve Kerr in practice make Jordan a "better team player"? LOL.
It shows how intense Jordan was, even in practice. Most players (like Iverson) try to find ways to get out of practice.
I do agree that if Kobe was in place of Dirk or Duncan they would win the championship for sure. But I don't think Kobe would have won the championships if he had been in Jordan's place in the 90's
Are you serious? If Kobe was in place of Jordan and got the same ref treatment as Jordan did in those days, there is NO WAY that team wouldn't have been champions...PeACe
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kobe went 42-40 imo not the lakers
and that's his big problem. he has to be able to only take like 16 shots and still win. you can't win deep in the playoffs with a one-man show.
Yea...His biggest problem is that he doesn't have an experienced team working with him. That's FAR from his fault though...And I dunno how far your memory goes back, but the Lakers were winning with Kobe playing the distributor in the first half of the season.
And that's when I started to get respect for Kobe. But he went back to that 50-points-a-game-crap. :D
And don't tell me that he HAS to score like that to take the W. Cause if that's the case, it IS a problem... no matter if it's his fault or not.
Yea, but he started doing that when there was no choice left...When all our key players were falling to injury and nobody wanted the responsibilty of being a scorer...Kobe took matters into his own hands and helped the situation. Jordan used to do this ALL THE TIME...PeACe
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Kobe was amazing this season. Great all around numbers.
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He's a great scorer, among at least the top 10-15 ever.
Name 10 players better at scoring then Kobe Bryant.
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kobe went 42-40 imo not the lakers
and that's his big problem. he has to be able to only take like 16 shots and still win. you can't win deep in the playoffs with a one-man show.
Shaq averaged more than 21 shots per game in the 3peat run. And he had Kobe as a teammate, and Horry, Fox, Fisher, Harper, Shaw, etc..
And you want Kobe (without a co-star like Shaq in his team and with Odom who isn't exactly a scorer) to win games by shooting "just" 16x per game? ::)
Who's the last one you've seen winning titles with that average of shots?
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kobe went 42-40 imo not the lakers
and that's his big problem. he has to be able to only take like 16 shots and still win. you can't win deep in the playoffs with a one-man show.
Yea...His biggest problem is that he doesn't have an experienced team working with him. That's FAR from his fault though...And I dunno how far your memory goes back, but the Lakers were winning with Kobe playing the distributor in the first half of the season.
And that's when I started to get respect for Kobe. But he went back to that 50-points-a-game-crap. :D
And don't tell me that he HAS to score like that to take the W. Cause if that's the case, it IS a problem... no matter if it's his fault or not.
Fact: Kobe is the best assist-man of the Lakers (Jordan wasn't).
Fact: Kobe is in the top5 assists-men of the League between (real) SG's.
The only difference is that he can score BETTER than the other players cause he's BETTER than the other players. Get it.
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kobe went 42-40 imo not the lakers
and that's his big problem. he has to be able to only take like 16 shots and still win. you can't win deep in the playoffs with a one-man show.
Yea...His biggest problem is that he doesn't have an experienced team working with him. That's FAR from his fault though...And I dunno how far your memory goes back, but the Lakers were winning with Kobe playing the distributor in the first half of the season.
And that's when I started to get respect for Kobe. But he went back to that 50-points-a-game-crap. :D
And don't tell me that he HAS to score like that to take the W. Cause if that's the case, it IS a problem... no matter if it's his fault or not.
It IS a pb ... Kobe had to do that... scored 60 against Memphis , Lakers won by 4... scored 65 against Portland , Lakers won in OT.. the only blowout when he scored 50+ was against Utah early in the season... the big pb is we can't win , when we don't defend at all and other players can't score, without Kobe scoring 50+ pts..
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kobe went 42-40 imo not the lakers
and that's his big problem. he has to be able to only take like 16 shots and still win. you can't win deep in the playoffs with a one-man show.
Yea...His biggest problem is that he doesn't have an experienced team working with him. That's FAR from his fault though...And I dunno how far your memory goes back, but the Lakers were winning with Kobe playing the distributor in the first half of the season.
And that's when I started to get respect for Kobe. But he went back to that 50-points-a-game-crap. :D
And don't tell me that he HAS to score like that to take the W. Cause if that's the case, it IS a problem... no matter if it's his fault or not.
Fact: Kobe is the best assist-man of the Lakers (Jordan wasn't).
Fact: Kobe is in the top5 assists-men of the League between (real) SG's.
The only difference is that he can score BETTER than the other players cause he's BETTER than the other players. Get it.
It's not that simple. If you think Dirk wasn't able to score a little more this season than he actually did I don't know what to say to you.
Again I'm not saying Kobe sucks cock, I'm just saying you don't win championships with a single player dominating the offense that much.
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Oh man, but the Lakers aren't ready to win a title yet. So what are we talking about anyway?
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He did this coz he is a ball-hog!!
Nah I'm just playing, he has been on fire this year and deserves the title.
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kobe went 42-40 imo not the lakers
and that's his big problem. he has to be able to only take like 16 shots and still win. you can't win deep in the playoffs with a one-man show.
Yea...His biggest problem is that he doesn't have an experienced team working with him. That's FAR from his fault though...And I dunno how far your memory goes back, but the Lakers were winning with Kobe playing the distributor in the first half of the season.
And that's when I started to get respect for Kobe. But he went back to that 50-points-a-game-crap. :D
And don't tell me that he HAS to score like that to take the W. Cause if that's the case, it IS a problem... no matter if it's his fault or not.
Fact: Kobe is the best assist-man of the Lakers (Jordan wasn't).
Fact: Kobe is in the top5 assists-men of the League between (real) SG's.
The only difference is that he can score BETTER than the other players cause he's BETTER than the other players. Get it.
It's not that simple. If you think Dirk wasn't able to score a little more this season than he actually did I don't know what to say to you.
Again I'm not saying Kobe sucks cock, I'm just saying you don't win championships with a single player dominating the offense that much.
Try telling that to Jordan. :D