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Title: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 24, 2007, 06:53:25 AM
I'll post more of my thoughts later, the first thing I want to point out is Kurupt's lyric's on his album "Kuruption" were drastically worse than anything he ever did on Death Row.  It's like Kurupt got so focused on business and signing rappers, and the image of being a label owner, that he forgot how to rap.  Then his label went bankrupt and was dissolved, and suddenly he remembered how to rap again and his next album was respectable.

Kurupt's lyrics were aweful on his first solo album, totally unfocused. 
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: d-nice on April 24, 2007, 07:07:30 AM
Daz had alot of guests on his first album. Sounded more like a compilation. But lyrically I think he brought the heat on that album. I liked a good portion of Kuruption, even a couple cuts off the East disc but I would have to go with Daz.
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Post by: OG Snoopaveli on April 24, 2007, 07:07:52 AM
Daz Solo is  best !!
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: Jungleboy on April 24, 2007, 08:37:03 AM
RRGB is way better then Kuruption. Dope Production and dope features makes this cd classic
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Post by: MoneyMack on April 24, 2007, 09:01:14 AM
Kurupt fan fro life. I've always been feelin Kuruption. Still think RRGB is str8 but Young Gotti got my vote.
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Post by: SleezyMac1-8-7 on April 24, 2007, 09:19:33 AM
i like Revenge, Retaliation & Get Back better too.
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: acgrundy on April 24, 2007, 09:34:20 AM
RR&GB is better than anything kurupt has done.  Out of all albums from daz and kurupt including dpg albums it is the second best, only behind dogg food.
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: 3331 on April 24, 2007, 09:55:29 AM
RR&GB- great album kuruption eghh not so much.
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Post by: Kaligula on April 24, 2007, 10:00:21 AM
RRG&B was clearly a better album that Kuruption. BUT. . .I happen to think that Streets iz a Mutha is better than both.
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 24, 2007, 11:39:18 AM
RR&GB is better than anything kurupt has done.  Out of all albums from daz and kurupt including dpg albums it is the second best, only behind dogg food.

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Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: West Coast Veteran on April 24, 2007, 12:02:29 PM
Retaliation, Revenge & Get Back is a great album. Kuruption as a whole sucks.
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: -Euthanasia- on April 24, 2007, 12:21:53 PM
everybody always talks about kurupt being a lyricist which i never really understood. he always seems to talk nonsense
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: d-nice on April 24, 2007, 12:40:02 PM
everybody always talks about kurupt being a lyricist which i never really understood. he always seems to talk nonsense

I think his Death Row days he was untouchable. A lyricist in every sense of the word. Not so much now, but he is good for a real lyrical track here and there.
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Post by: Lunatic on April 24, 2007, 12:41:17 PM
haven't heard all of daz's 1st album, but absolutely dreaded kuription.
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: -Euthanasia- on April 24, 2007, 12:41:58 PM
everybody always talks about kurupt being a lyricist which i never really understood. he always seems to talk nonsense

I think his Death Row days he was untouchable. A lyricist in every sense of the word. Not so much now, but he is good for a real lyrical track here and there.

^^maybe in comparison with spice 1 and mc breed, but to rappers of the non-gangsta variety he wasnt sayin too much
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Post by: Al Bundy on April 24, 2007, 12:42:27 PM
im a fan of kuruption but retaliation, revenge, and get back was off the hook with all of those features and slammin beats! too bad shit didn't sound mastered like tha doggfather though.
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: d-nice on April 24, 2007, 12:50:08 PM
everybody always talks about kurupt being a lyricist which i never really understood. he always seems to talk nonsense

I think his Death Row days he was untouchable. A lyricist in every sense of the word. Not so much now, but he is good for a real lyrical track here and there.

^^maybe in comparison with spice 1 and mc breed, but to rappers of the non-gangsta variety he wasnt sayin too much

If you compare it that way, I would say for battle raps and gangsta rap, DR Kurupt is about as good as it gets. Now if we are comparing Kurupt to Nas or Biggie or someone like that the content is different. I always wondered if all those verses Kurupt was spitting back in the day were freestyles or not.
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Post by: J$crILLa on April 24, 2007, 01:14:14 PM
RRGB > KURUPTION but not by much
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: Paul on April 24, 2007, 02:05:51 PM
im a fan of kuruption but retaliation, revenge, and get back was off the hook with all of those features and slammin beats!

west coast classic , kuruption is  :-\, some amazing songs like ask yourself a question and c walk but not a solid album as a whole
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: Lunatic on April 24, 2007, 02:08:13 PM
im a fan of kuruption but retaliation, revenge, and get back was off the hook with all of those features and slammin beats!

west coast classic , kuruption is  :-\, some amazing songs like ask yourself a question and c walk but not a solid album as a whole

My 2 fav tracks off the album.
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: Okka on April 24, 2007, 02:12:15 PM
Both albums are dope but i gotta go with Kuruption
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: Paul on April 24, 2007, 02:17:48 PM
i dont see how people can go with kuruption, it has a weak east coast cd, half the west coast cd isnt as good as it could have been also

rr&gb has some unbeleivable tracks, in california, the title track, oh no, theres tracks with pac, too short, OG with snoop and nate, albums near flawless, oh well thts just my opinion
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: d-nice on April 24, 2007, 02:24:26 PM
i dont see how people can go with kuruption, it has a weak east coast cd, half the west coast cd isnt as good as it could have been also

rr&gb has some unbeleivable tracks, in california, the title track, oh no, theres tracks with pac, too short, OG with snoop and nate, albums near flawless, oh well thts just my opinion

I remember people complaining about Kuruption when it came out that it did not have enough Daz production and hardly any DPGC appearances. Pretty much before this album Kurupt was all over Daz and Dre's beats so the hype for this album was crazy. But with all the new producers and him trying to cater to everyone, it sounded all over the place. RR&GB like you said near flawless. West coast to the fullest.
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Post by: Lunatic on April 24, 2007, 02:27:46 PM
the beat on c-walk is  :o :o :o

same story with ask yourself a question

only "classic" tracks to me on the album. Besides that, you can count the rest of the decent tracks on 1 hand
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: Paul on April 24, 2007, 02:28:46 PM
the beat on c-walk is  :o :o :o

same story with ask yourself a question

only "classic" tracks to me on the album. Besides that, you can count the rest of the decent tracks on 1 hand

oh yeah and fresh is up ther imo, an amazing beat by daz and kurupt kills it
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: d-nice on April 24, 2007, 02:30:09 PM
the beat on c-walk is  :o :o :o

same story with ask yourself a question

only "classic" tracks to me on the album. Besides that, you can count the rest of the decent tracks on 1 hand

We Can Freak It was a nice club song, one of the best to hear in a club IMO. C-Walk is amazing. I liked Game on the eastcoast cd also and the We Can Freak It remix.  
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: Paul on April 24, 2007, 02:36:32 PM
oh yeah and we can freak it, man im forgetting some smooth tracks

i also really enjoy cant let tht slide, roscoe is rapping on ther and hes llike 14 years old lol
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: d-nice on April 24, 2007, 02:46:22 PM
oh yeah and we can freak it, man im forgetting some smooth tracks

i also really enjoy cant let tht slide, roscoe is rapping on ther and hes llike 14 years old lol

I really could not get into Put That On Something but other than a couple of tracks the westcoast cd is cool. The bonus track with Gonzoe on it is dope too.
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: westside159 on April 24, 2007, 02:46:35 PM
THEY BOTH WAS DOPE , KURUPT'S album was Dope on the Westcoast side but he fucked up on the eastcoast shit !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: OG Snoopaveli on April 24, 2007, 02:53:40 PM
Daz solo was better cauz it was on Death Row !! initiated , OG etc...
But there re dope tracc on Kuruption! like c-walk we can freak it i luv the "i wanna..." tracc is too dope!!!

 
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: EFFeX on April 24, 2007, 03:55:40 PM
Even though I like Kurupt's discography a lot more than Daz's... I have to go with Daz on this one. The funny thing about RRGB is that you can listen to that once you listen to that album, you've heard every Daz album. I'm not talking about beats, but after that album he basically recycled everything over and over again. Think about how many Daz lines you can finish before he says them, LOL.
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Post by: WILL-I-DIE on April 24, 2007, 04:00:35 PM
daz
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Post by: Layeth THe Smacketh Down on April 24, 2007, 07:33:14 PM
Have not heard all of Kuruption, but Daz' first solo album was fire even though I cant stand the way he rapped on the album.  It Might Sound Crazy is one of the dopest westcoast songs of all time and Initiated with 2Pac and the Outlaws was real dope too.
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Post by: Darksider on April 24, 2007, 09:10:09 PM
daz...the east coast disk fucked up the kurupt album
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: JohnnyL on April 25, 2007, 05:59:54 AM
 I actually like "Kuruption," but I had to go with "Revenge, Retaliation, and Get' Back."

 I think it was a pretty cool concept for Kurupt to do an East Coast Disc and a West Coast Disc.  I can't say I liked every song on both discs, but I liked some from each.  The first track on the East Coast Disc ( I believe it's called, "It's a Set Up," ) is actually my favorite track off that disc, and I think one of the best on the album.  When I first heard that track, I listened to it over and over.  I still think that's one of Kurupt's most raw songs, even now.  The West Coast Disc probably has more tracks that I like, but offhand I can't think of all of them.  Right now, "We Can Feak It" and "Ask Yourself a Question" specifically, stand out.

 But Daz's album, come on...It's got everything."Initiated" with Pac and the Outlawz....The track with Snoop and Nate..."It Might Sound Crazy" with Too Short..."Ultimate Come Up" with Bad Azz and MC Eiht (one of my personal favorites)...the track with WC...man, they're all great.  "In California" was a great single too.

 To be fair though, If I had to choose between "Revenge Retaliation, and Get Back" and "Streetz Iz A Mutha," I don't know which one I'd pick.  To me, that's Kurupt's crowning achievement so far.  At least, as a solo artist.
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: Darksider on April 25, 2007, 06:29:07 AM
dont get me wrong i love the westcoast disk minus one track and i love like 4 tracks on the east disc......but i cant ignore the other average or wack  songs
daz album is dope as hell and more consistent
Title: Re: Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz's first solo album
Post by: shaydee on April 25, 2007, 06:51:41 AM
Daz's album sounded more DR.