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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: M Dogg™ on April 24, 2007, 09:37:14 PM
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You have to pull the trigger on a Kevin Garnett trade, even if it cost us Odom. I was against it even as early as three days ago, but we can not lose a playoff game like the Lakers are losing now. It's 90-75 at the end of the quarter, and being in Minnesota, I know KG would not stand for this. He had shit teammates, and his playing like it's game 7 of the finals and his down by only 3 with a minute to go. The Lakers need a balls out player to play with Kobe, and KG is perfect. I love Odom, but at this point, KG brings more to the table. Bynum is still untouchable though.
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Swapping Odom for Garnett wont do too much...It's the team MENTALITY that's killing us. Were a better team on paper than last year, but it's not translating into what we see. We get down on ourselves too soon in a deficit and have way too much doubt in ourselves. I don't blame Odom, I don't blame Kobe, I blame our hearts AS A TEAM. I'd love KG, but I wouldn't wanna lose one of our few playmakers in Odom for him...PeACe
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We need to get rid of some of the piece of shit player that look like they're not even trying.
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Swapping Odom for Garnett wont do too much...It's the team MENTALITY that's killing us. Were a better team on paper than last year, but it's not translating into what we see. We get down on ourselves too soon in a deficit and have way too much doubt in ourselves. I don't blame Odom, I don't blame Kobe, I blame our hearts AS A TEAM. I'd love KG, but I wouldn't wanna lose one of our few playmakers in Odom for him...PeACe
But KG's heart is huge, he is the heart of Minnesota. His will to win is almost as great as Kobe's, and that's what this team needs. Odom looks like he gets down on himself, KG don't. I was not talking about talent that I think needs to be traded, it's that heart factor, that one thing that KG has the Odom doesn't, the thing that makes him an All-Star. It's time to pull the trigger, KG and Kobe don't lose by 20-plus in the playoffs unless they are resting to kill them in the next game... a la Lakers three peat teams who let the other team win big just to finish off the series the next game.
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Swapping Odom for Garnett wont do too much...It's the team MENTALITY that's killing us. Were a better team on paper than last year, but it's not translating into what we see. We get down on ourselves too soon in a deficit and have way too much doubt in ourselves. I don't blame Odom, I don't blame Kobe, I blame our hearts AS A TEAM. I'd love KG, but I wouldn't wanna lose one of our few playmakers in Odom for him...PeACe
But KG's heart is huge, he is the heart of Minnesota. His will to win is almost as great as Kobe's, and that's what this team needs. Odom looks like he gets down on himself, KG don't. I was not talking about talent that I think needs to be traded, it's that heart factor, that one thing that KG has the Odom doesn't, the thing that makes him an All-Star. It's time to pull the trigger, KG and Kobe don't lose by 20-plus in the playoffs unless they are resting to kill them in the next game... a la Lakers three peat teams who let the other team win big just to finish off the series the next game.
Odom and Kobe are doing theirs for the most part, it's other players that need to step up...Imagine how much more embarassing it'll be to lose this way with Kobe AND KG, all because we're still mostly made up of mentally weak role players... :-\
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Swapping Odom for Garnett wont do too much...It's the team MENTALITY that's killing us. Were a better team on paper than last year, but it's not translating into what we see. We get down on ourselves too soon in a deficit and have way too much doubt in ourselves. I don't blame Odom, I don't blame Kobe, I blame our hearts AS A TEAM. I'd love KG, but I wouldn't wanna lose one of our few playmakers in Odom for him...PeACe
But KG's heart is huge, he is the heart of Minnesota. His will to win is almost as great as Kobe's, and that's what this team needs. Odom looks like he gets down on himself, KG don't. I was not talking about talent that I think needs to be traded, it's that heart factor, that one thing that KG has the Odom doesn't, the thing that makes him an All-Star. It's time to pull the trigger, KG and Kobe don't lose by 20-plus in the playoffs unless they are resting to kill them in the next game... a la Lakers three peat teams who let the other team win big just to finish off the series the next game.
Odom and Kobe are doing theirs for the most part, it's other players that need to step up...Imagine how much more embarassing it'll be to lose this way with Kobe AND KG, all because we're still mostly made up of mentally weak role players... :-\
I wouldn't blame Odom too much either. His only doing as well as the role players allow him to do. But the Lakers need a big superstar to play with Kobe, Odom is good, but KG is better, and it's worth it to upgrade now. 3 days ago, I agreed, I would not part with Odom, but this game showed me it's time to upgrade, and I'm sorry Odom, but just like getting rid of Shaq, business is never personal, well Shaq turned it personal, but that was a business move. This move would be business.
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ive been saying that shit for the past month that we need to get KG now even for Bynum.
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
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The best time to trade Odom would've been last season. Now teams see just how inconsistent he is. Either way, Minnesota is in the driver seat. It's not like they're beggin us to take him.
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Swapping Odom for Garnett wont do too much...
Exactly. If we get KG for Odom+Brown, we will still miss a decent PG and a decent C. So we will still lack two key players out of 5. We should try to get those two players, man. If we get a decent PG (cause Smush is really horrible) and a better post player, we will def improve more than if we just acquire KG for Odom+Brown. But it's hard to do it. Really hard.
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At this point to be a contender, we miss a 2nd option to help Kobe (I repeat I like Lamar game but he's just too inconsistent to be the 2nd star on the team), a good point guard, who can create plays for others, and a consistent presence down low.. I hope there will be some moves in the off season, coz we're the Lakers, fans are waiting and I won't be able to bear another average season.. but to be honest, outside some good draft choices, I'm not sastified with Mitch job and I have doubts on his ablility to turn us in a championship team..
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Like I said, KG wont turn things around if we dont have a TEAM. Minnesota would take Odom for KG in a heartbeat. That's most likely the best prospect they'll get their hands on, considering McHale cares WHERE KG wants to go, after the loyalty he's shown the franchise. But KG alone wont do it for us. Odom's stats this season are better than last seasons, and that's WITH a torn labrum (which he played through, showing his resilience), so how has his value gone down? Odom is our best rebounder, best passer, best playmaker, best post player, best defender (at the sf-pf position), etc...He means a lot to this team, and we aren't playoff bound without him...If I'm Mitch, I'm going after a real point guard with a strong mentality. I think that will put this team over and we will be able to play how we started this season ALWAYS...PeACe
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Like I said, KG wont turn things around if we dont have a TEAM. Minnesota would take Odom for KG in a heartbeat. That's most likely the best prospect they'll get their hands on, considering McHale cares WHERE KG wants to go, after the loyalty he's shown the franchise. But KG alone wont do it for us. Odom's stats this season are better than last seasons, and that's WITH a torn labrum (which he played through, showing his resilience), so how has his value gone down? Odom is our best rebounder, best passer, best playmaker, best post player, best defender (at the sf-pf position), etc...He means a lot to this team, and we aren't playoff bound without him...If I'm Mitch, I'm going after a real point guard with a strong mentality. I think that will put this team over and we will be able to play how we started this season ALWAYS...PeACe
you get KG, and it becomes easier to sign that PG. You don't think Baron wouldn't take a pay cut to come home and lead Kobe and KG to a title.
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Trust me, I know. I have lived in the Twin Cities all of my life. I'm just saying, Ricky Davis, Mark Blount and Randy Foye are all good players, BUT they aren't consistant and they get down on themselves. That is why they lose. If Odom does the same thing, trading an outstanding player like KG for just a good player like Odom won't help the Wolves any. I mean, when it comes time to deal KG, the Wolves want to be able to get some people in return that will turn around the franchise, not keep it just like it is.
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Trust me, I know. I have lived in the Twin Cities all of my life. I'm just saying, Ricky Davis, Mark Blount and Randy Foye are all good players, BUT they aren't consistant and they get down on themselves. That is why they lose. If Odom does the same thing, trading an outstanding player like KG for just a good player like Odom won't help the Wolves any. I mean, when it comes time to deal KG, the Wolves want to be able to get some people in return that will turn around the franchise, not keep it just like it is.
as a life long twin cities residence, don't you think McHale has one more screwing over the T-Wolves move in him?
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Trust me, I know. I have lived in the Twin Cities all of my life. I'm just saying, Ricky Davis, Mark Blount and Randy Foye are all good players, BUT they aren't consistant and they get down on themselves. That is why they lose. If Odom does the same thing, trading an outstanding player like KG for just a good player like Odom won't help the Wolves any. I mean, when it comes time to deal KG, the Wolves want to be able to get some people in return that will turn around the franchise, not keep it just like it is.
^^Okay, but they'll have to make more trades than one. Think about it, they trade KG for Odom+Kwame, and now they have a nice package for another big deal (Pau Gasol? Jermaine O'Neal?)...Ricky Davis+Mike James+Kwame Brown for Jermaine O'Neal...So now they have a team of
PG Randy Foye
SG Rashad McCants
SF Trenton Hassell
PF Lamar Odom
C Jermaine O'Neal
See, you have to think like a GM. You're telling me that's not a nice team? Plus they have draft picks, young prospects, trade bait, etc.
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Trust me, I know. I have lived in the Twin Cities all of my life. I'm just saying, Ricky Davis, Mark Blount and Randy Foye are all good players, BUT they aren't consistant and they get down on themselves. That is why they lose. If Odom does the same thing, trading an outstanding player like KG for just a good player like Odom won't help the Wolves any. I mean, when it comes time to deal KG, the Wolves want to be able to get some people in return that will turn around the franchise, not keep it just like it is.
^^Okay, but they'll have to make more trades than one. Think about it, they trade KG for Odom+Kwame, and now they have a nice package for another big deal (Pau Gasol? Jermaine O'Neal?)...Ricky Davis+Mike James+Kwame Brown for Jermaine O'Neal...So now they have a team of
PG Randy Foye
SG Rashad McCants
SF Trenton Hassell
PF Lamar Odom
C Jermaine O'Neal
See, you have to think like a GM. You're telling me that's not a nice team? Plus they have draft picks, young prospects, trade bait, etc.
the TC's people are not basketball people. They only know basketball as KG, and right now they want him to go to a better team 'cause they feel sorry for him. In LA, we got spoiled of years of West, who made moves for the purpose of making other moves to get what he wants (i.e. trading Divac for Kobe and freeing up room to get Shaq). McHale is not that smart, and the TCs are not expecting it.
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Trust me, I know. I have lived in the Twin Cities all of my life. I'm just saying, Ricky Davis, Mark Blount and Randy Foye are all good players, BUT they aren't consistant and they get down on themselves. That is why they lose. If Odom does the same thing, trading an outstanding player like KG for just a good player like Odom won't help the Wolves any. I mean, when it comes time to deal KG, the Wolves want to be able to get some people in return that will turn around the franchise, not keep it just like it is.
^^Okay, but they'll have to make more trades than one. Think about it, they trade KG for Odom+Kwame, and now they have a nice package for another big deal (Pau Gasol? Jermaine O'Neal?)...Ricky Davis+Mike James+Kwame Brown for Jermaine O'Neal...So now they have a team of
PG Randy Foye
SG Rashad McCants
SF Trenton Hassell
PF Lamar Odom
C Jermaine O'Neal
See, you have to think like a GM. You're telling me that's not a nice team? Plus they have draft picks, young prospects, trade bait, etc.
It looks like a decent team on paper aside from McCants, the question is will that team win? And would the Pacers be willing to trade their only player keeping their franchise from drowning for some players that may or may not come through for them? I wish the Wolves had draft picks to deal. They got lucky this year with the lottery, but they still don't have any of their own first round picks until after 2010. They need to trade to get them.
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that 6'12" could get you a first round pick or two
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They got lucky this year with the lottery, but they still don't have any of their own first round picks until after 2010.
How come? ???
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They got lucky this year with the lottery, but they still don't have any of their own first round picks until after 2010.
How come? ???
McHale traded them. One with Sam Cassell for Marko Jaric and Lionel Chalmers of the Clippers and the other went to Boston with Wally Szczerbiak, Dwayne Jones and Michael Olowokandi, for Ricky Davis, Mark Blount, Justin Reed, Marcus Banks, and two second round draft picks. This is why I moved to be with my girl, and still kept my home team... lol. Actually, I'll never trade on the Lakers, and the T'Wolves make it easy.
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Names Tony Dorsett and Magic Johnson as his sports heroes
this from his offical NBA bio. I'm saying, KG to LA.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kevin_garnett/bio.html
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Like I said, KG wont turn things around if we dont have a TEAM. Minnesota would take Odom for KG in a heartbeat. That's most likely the best prospect they'll get their hands on, considering McHale cares WHERE KG wants to go, after the loyalty he's shown the franchise. But KG alone wont do it for us. Odom's stats this season are better than last seasons, and that's WITH a torn labrum (which he played through, showing his resilience), so how has his value gone down? Odom is our best rebounder, best passer, best playmaker, best post player, best defender (at the sf-pf position), etc...He means a lot to this team, and we aren't playoff bound without him...If I'm Mitch, I'm going after a real point guard with a strong mentality. I think that will put this team over and we will be able to play how we started this season ALWAYS...PeACe
I do agree. Like i said we don't need another PF player. We need a PG and possibly a C.
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Like I said, KG wont turn things around if we dont have a TEAM. Minnesota would take Odom for KG in a heartbeat. That's most likely the best prospect they'll get their hands on, considering McHale cares WHERE KG wants to go, after the loyalty he's shown the franchise. But KG alone wont do it for us. Odom's stats this season are better than last seasons, and that's WITH a torn labrum (which he played through, showing his resilience), so how has his value gone down? Odom is our best rebounder, best passer, best playmaker, best post player, best defender (at the sf-pf position), etc...He means a lot to this team, and we aren't playoff bound without him...If I'm Mitch, I'm going after a real point guard with a strong mentality. I think that will put this team over and we will be able to play how we started this season ALWAYS...PeACe
you get KG, and it becomes easier to sign that PG. You don't think Baron wouldn't take a pay cut to come home and lead Kobe and KG to a title.
Baron who? Baron Davis? You're dreaming..
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Trust me, I know. I have lived in the Twin Cities all of my life. I'm just saying, Ricky Davis, Mark Blount and Randy Foye are all good players, BUT they aren't consistant and they get down on themselves. That is why they lose. If Odom does the same thing, trading an outstanding player like KG for just a good player like Odom won't help the Wolves any. I mean, when it comes time to deal KG, the Wolves want to be able to get some people in return that will turn around the franchise, not keep it just like it is.
^^Okay, but they'll have to make more trades than one. Think about it, they trade KG for Odom+Kwame, and now they have a nice package for another big deal (Pau Gasol? Jermaine O'Neal?)...Ricky Davis+Mike James+Kwame Brown for Jermaine O'Neal...So now they have a team of
PG Randy Foye
SG Rashad McCants
SF Trenton Hassell
PF Lamar Odom
C Jermaine O'Neal
See, you have to think like a GM. You're telling me that's not a nice team? Plus they have draft picks, young prospects, trade bait, etc.
It looks like a decent team on paper aside from McCants, the question is will that team win?
Hey, LMAO. You're talking about the Timberwolves!! They missed the P.O. WITH KG!!
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Names Tony Dorsett and Magic Johnson as his sports heroes
this from his offical NBA bio. I'm saying, KG to LA.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kevin_garnett/bio.html
And his wife lives in Malibu. :-*
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Man, I don't want Odom to get traded. I've been an Odom fans since he was with the Clippers. But some changes have to be made.
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What makes you guys think that the Wolves even want Odom if he isn't pulling his weight in LA? The Wolves have enough good players that don't pull their weight.
The Wolves don't want to part with KG and get nothing. KG is not signing next year. Hell, most everyone in the Twin Cities, I live here now, says they want the Wolves to trade Garnett. And these are Wolves fans, who go to the games. They don't blame KG, they blame McHale. So don't be surprised when KG goes, and people here feel happy for him.
Trust me, I know. I have lived in the Twin Cities all of my life. I'm just saying, Ricky Davis, Mark Blount and Randy Foye are all good players, BUT they aren't consistant and they get down on themselves. That is why they lose. If Odom does the same thing, trading an outstanding player like KG for just a good player like Odom won't help the Wolves any. I mean, when it comes time to deal KG, the Wolves want to be able to get some people in return that will turn around the franchise, not keep it just like it is.
^^Okay, but they'll have to make more trades than one. Think about it, they trade KG for Odom+Kwame, and now they have a nice package for another big deal (Pau Gasol? Jermaine O'Neal?)...Ricky Davis+Mike James+Kwame Brown for Jermaine O'Neal...So now they have a team of
PG Randy Foye
SG Rashad McCants
SF Trenton Hassell
PF Lamar Odom
C Jermaine O'Neal
See, you have to think like a GM. You're telling me that's not a nice team? Plus they have draft picks, young prospects, trade bait, etc.
It looks like a decent team on paper aside from McCants, the question is will that team win? And would the Pacers be willing to trade their only player keeping their franchise from drowning for some players that may or may not come through for them? I wish the Wolves had draft picks to deal. They got lucky this year with the lottery, but they still don't have any of their own first round picks until after 2010. They need to trade to get them.
McCants showed tremendous promise in the second half of his rookie season...He was injured this season and wasn't the same, but he's a nice young player. If you don't like him starting, then replace him with rookie Craig Smith, who also looks like a nice, promising young player...But the main point is, it can work out...PeACe
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They got lucky this year with the lottery, but they still don't have any of their own first round picks until after 2010.
How come? ???
McHale traded them. One with Sam Cassell for Marko Jaric and Lionel Chalmers of the Clippers and the other went to Boston with Wally Szczerbiak, Dwayne Jones and Michael Olowokandi, for Ricky Davis, Mark Blount, Justin Reed, Marcus Banks, and two second round draft picks. This is why I moved to be with my girl, and still kept my home team... lol. Actually, I'll never trade on the Lakers, and the T'Wolves make it easy.
Are you sure? The CBA doesn't allow teams to trade away future first round draft picks in consecutive years.
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Man, I don't want Odom to get traded. I've been an Odom fans since he was with the Clippers. But some changes have to be made.
Damn, me too. I remember him and Elton Brand on the Clippers and people saying how that Clippers had the star power (which included Michael Olowokandi back when he was a good player) to be a serious team. But you know how the Clippers operate. :P I actually said back when they both became free agents that the Lakers should go after one of them.
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Odom for Garnett would be a huge steal for the Lakers. I don't think Minnesota is up for that.
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(Michael Olowokandi back when he was a good player)
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Olowokandi was benched when he played in Italy, and then he was cutted. Cause he sucked. Just to let you know. In Italy.
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(Michael Olowokandi back when he was a good player)
(http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~raza/wtf.jpg)
His last season with the Clippers he averaged 12.3 and 9.1. It was the reason the T-Wolves paid him that huge salary.
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(Michael Olowokandi back when he was a good player)
(http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~raza/wtf.jpg)
His last season with the Clippers he averaged 12.3 and 9.1. It was the reason the T-Wolves paid him that huge salary.
That doesn't equal a good player...Dude was all height, never had ANY skill.
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as a life long twin cities residence, don't you think McHale has one more screwing over the T-Wolves move in him?
The fans would literally want to hurt McHale if he screws up the trade. No doubt in my mind. He better leave with KG if he fucks it up.
They got lucky this year with the lottery, but they still don't have any of their own first round picks until after 2010.
How come? ???
Because the Wolves tried to pull some under the table shit to resign Joe Smith and they got caught so the league took away their first round draft picks for a decade. And like M Dogg said, the ones we did aquire during trades, the Wolves stupidly traded away for a short term answer to a long term problem.
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(Michael Olowokandi back when he was a good player)
lol,when was this?
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as a life long twin cities residence, don't you think McHale has one more screwing over the T-Wolves move in him?
The fans would literally want to hurt McHale if he screws up the trade. No doubt in my mind. He better leave with KG if he fucks it up.
They got lucky this year with the lottery, but they still don't have any of their own first round picks until after 2010.
How come? ???
Because the Wolves tried to pull some under the table shit to resign Joe Smith and they got caught so the league took away their first round draft picks for a decade. And like M Dogg said, the ones we did aquire during trades, the Wolves stupidly traded away for a short term answer to a long term problem.
They gave up 5 first round picks for that. But that happened in 2005. But the NBA CBA says a team can not trade consecutive first round draft picks, so either you guys are mistaken or there is more to it.
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(Michael Olowokandi back when he was a good player)
lol,when was this?
Like I said he averaged 12 and 9 is final year with the Clippers. I know it hard to imagine/remember when you see him play today, but it is true. At one point he was a decent player. Injuries slowed him down to when he signed with the T-Wolves.
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KG> The Rest Of The Lakers Team Combined (not including Kobe)
KG would be great
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Anyways, if no major move happened in this upcoming summer, Kobe will be gone after the 07-08 season.. he's frustrated and makes it more and more clear
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/26/sports/basketball/26lakers.html?ref=sports
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^^^ kobe isn't going anywhere.
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^^^^ Kobe is an impatient type of guy and got ego too.. you know he wants to be on a contender team ... he ain't gonna play just in order to make the playoffs for the rest of his carreer ..
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^^^^ Kobe is an impatient type of guy and got ego too.. you know he wants to be on a contender team ... he ain't gonna play just in order to make the playoffs for the rest of his carreer ..
If Kobe wanted to win, he would of gotten along with Shaq. But he wanted to lead a team, and that's what he is doing. It's all on him now.
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^^^^ I don't think Kobe just wanted to lead a team with no purpose.. if u think Kobe doesn't want to prove he can win a title , being the 1st option and without Shaq, you're crazy 8).. be realistic Kobe won't stand the current situation for a long time.. the article link I posted is a good example , Kobe made it clear, major moves have to be made.. if not.. I'm sure you can read between the lines
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^^^^ Kobe is an impatient type of guy and got ego too.. you know he wants to be on a contender team ... he ain't gonna play just in order to make the playoffs for the rest of his carreer ..
If Kobe wanted to win, he would of gotten along with Shaq. But he wanted to lead a team, and that's what he is doing. It's all on him now.
LMAO. You really think that's the problem? Kobe was more than willing to get along with Shaq. It was the coaching staff who wanted Kobe to step up as the leader of the team, when they realized Shaq was on a major decline and Kobe was on a major uprise. It was SHAQ who got jealous of Kobe's rising popularity + extreme work ethic, dissed Kobe in the media every chance he got, and cried like a baby if he didn't get his way (even when he was fat and out of shape)...Then HE demanded a trade, right after Kobe proclaimed in the media he would love to play alongside Shaq for the rest of his career. Shaq wanted an absurd amount of money, and that means Kobe would've had to take a pay-cut. Shaq bitched out when he didn't get his way...I thought you knew better, homie...PeACe
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(Michael Olowokandi back when he was a good player)
lol,when was this?
Like I said he averaged 12 and 9 is final year with the Clippers. I know it hard to imagine/remember when you see him play today, but it is true. At one point he was a decent player. Injuries slowed him down to when he signed with the T-Wolves.
He wasn't decent, he sucked. Those numbers meant nothing on the Clippers. Dude was always ALL size. No post up game, shitty defense, horrible footwork, no offensive moves, no basketball IQ, NOTHING. He would purely score and get rebounds off his size alone...PeACe
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(Michael Olowokandi back when he was a good player)
lol,when was this?
Like I said he averaged 12 and 9 is final year with the Clippers. I know it hard to imagine/remember when you see him play today, but it is true. At one point he was a decent player. Injuries slowed him down to when he signed with the T-Wolves.
He wasn't decent, he sucked. Those numbers meant nothing on the Clippers. Dude was always ALL size. No post up game, shitty defense, horrible footwork, no offensive moves, no basketball IQ, NOTHING. He would purely score and get rebounds off his size alone...PeACe
By NBA standards what more can you want from a center? He was still young at the time and that Clippers and T-Wolves thought he could still approve.
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(Michael Olowokandi back when he was a good player)
lol,when was this?
Like I said he averaged 12 and 9 is final year with the Clippers. I know it hard to imagine/remember when you see him play today, but it is true. At one point he was a decent player. Injuries slowed him down to when he signed with the T-Wolves.
He wasn't decent, he sucked. Those numbers meant nothing on the Clippers. Dude was always ALL size. No post up game, shitty defense, horrible footwork, no offensive moves, no basketball IQ, NOTHING. He would purely score and get rebounds off his size alone...PeACe
By NBA standards what more can you want from a center? He was still young at the time and that Clippers and T-Wolves thought he could still approve.
Did you ever actually watch him play, or are you just looking at the numbers? Dude flat out SUCKS/SUCKED/WILL SUCK. He has nothing...Pretty much anyone can put up those numbers by using their size and hustling...Especially when a team is tryna push you as a major part of their core and give you undeserving minutes. Clippers knew he sucked, thats why they didn't re-sign him. Wolves were the ones fooled by his numbers, just like you...PeACe
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(Michael Olowokandi back when he was a good player)
lol,when was this?
Like I said he averaged 12 and 9 is final year with the Clippers. I know it hard to imagine/remember when you see him play today, but it is true. At one point he was a decent player. Injuries slowed him down to when he signed with the T-Wolves.
He wasn't decent, he sucked. Those numbers meant nothing on the Clippers. Dude was always ALL size. No post up game, shitty defense, horrible footwork, no offensive moves, no basketball IQ, NOTHING. He would purely score and get rebounds off his size alone...PeACe
By NBA standards what more can you want from a center? He was still young at the time and that Clippers and T-Wolves thought he could still approve.
Man the year before he was benched in Italy, and then waived.