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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 24, 2007, 11:33:29 PM
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How come he was great in his Death Row days, and dope on Streetz is a Mutha.. but came wack on Streetz is a Mutha?
For real, that was his time to shine. If he would have came out with a dope album people would have gotten behind him. It still landed at #6 on the charts and went gold even after how wack it was.
I want a thread with analysis of his lyrics. Really, was he too busy with playing the role of CEO and hanging wit Foxy Brown to spit some decent lyrics and flow?
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Kuruption wasn't that bad.
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Bryan, will you quit making Kurupt topics? I think this is the 3rd you made in 1 day, stop this nonsense foo. Get off Kurupt's nuts and get a life. -1
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Kuruption wasn't that bad.
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Kuruption wasn't that bad.
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I agree with Infinite.
I clearly remember hearing the album for the first time. I was at university and was given an advance press copy to review for the university paper. I put it in my CD walkman and listened to it as i walked into town, and to this day I remember being immediately struck at how incredibly wack the lyrics to the opening track were.
I think people here today are so used to Kurupt's ups and downs lyrically that they fail to appreciate just how remarkable the difference was from the high calibre of everything he dropped prior to Kuruption. There are flashes of lyrical brilliance across the album, don't get me wrong, but I'll never forget hearing 'This One's For U' for the first time and being shocked at how sloppy it was.
As for why? Who knows. It can't be easy setting up your own label like that, so maybe the guy had other things on his mind. But it didn't seem to me that there was any pride taken in the rhymes on that album. Those weren;t the raps of an MC who, a year or two before in The Source, said his dream had always been to be able to take any rapper out with a freestyle.
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daz and kurupt both switched to a slower flow in 2000..... imo kurupt will never be as tight as he was in 95
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D-R-U-G-S
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I agree with Infinite.
I clearly remember hearing the album for the first time. I was at university and was given an advance press copy to review for the university paper. I put it in my CD walkman and listened to it as i walked into town, and to this day I remember being immediately struck at how incredibly wack the lyrics to the opening track were.
I think people here today are so used to Kurupt's ups and downs lyrically that they fail to appreciate just how remarkable the difference was from the high calibre of everything he dropped prior to Kuruption. There are flashes of lyrical brilliance across the album, don't get me wrong, but I'll never forget hearing 'This One's For U' for the first time and being shocked at how sloppy it was.
As for why? Who knows. It can't be easy setting up your own label like that, so maybe the guy had other things on his mind. But it didn't seem to me that there was any pride taken in the rhymes on that album. Those weren;t the raps of an MC who, a year or two before in The Source, said his dream had always been to be able to take any rapper out with a freestyle.
nice post.. much props..
But the song that really got me was not, "This Ones For U", but the song I really think displays how greatly his skills had fallen off from his Death Row days... is "Play My Cards". Battlecat laced a nice beat, that you could really ride to and reflect, and Kurupt just spits unfocused trash over the track. It's like he ain't even trying, it could have been a freestyle or something. Check it out..
Play My Cards
"I'm a G
Ohh yeah that's me
Don't forget it
Act like you knew it fore I set it
I put the needle on the wax
Before I turn around
And burn everything to the ground
I seen it comin
A fool over to the right gunnin
The homies wistled
We all drew pistols"
btw, you got a scan of that Source article by any chance? Did DPG get the cover of the Source when Dogg Food came out?
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He sounded drunk or high on alot of the songs. Just sounded like on a couple tracks he just threw some words together and made a song. I think people underestimate how much of a influence Dre had on DPG when they were on Death Row. There is no way Dre would have let many Kurupt tracks be released the way they were. But you have to learn on your own. He corrected alot of that on TSIAM so it makes me wonder even more what was going on with certain tracks on this album.
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I really don't feel like his lyrics were bad at all. It was his 1st solo, and a double disc at that. He spit nothin but venom on the Eastcoast disc, and dropped a few gems on West Coast side too. I'll admit I haven't heard the album in it's entirety, but his lyrics sounded far better than say ATG, SDDS or any of the recent Dogg Pound albums.
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I really don't feel like his lyrics were bad at all. It was his 1st solo, and a double disc at that. He spit nothin but venom on the Eastcoast disc, and dropped a few gems on West Coast side too. I'll admit I haven't heard the album in it's entirety, but his lyrics sounded far better than say ATG, SDDS or any of the recent Dogg Pound albums.
True. I only have a problem with a couple cuts here and there. But overall, he had some heat. Game is still my shit off that East disc. His flow and lyrics were on point on that track.
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I really don't feel like his lyrics were bad at all. It was his 1st solo, and a double disc at that. He spit nothin but venom on the Eastcoast disc, and dropped a few gems on West Coast side too. I'll admit I haven't heard the album in it's entirety, but his lyrics sounded far better than say ATG, SDDS or any of the recent Dogg Pound albums.
True. I only have a problem with a couple cuts here and there. But overall, he had some heat. Game is still my shit off that East disc. His flow and lyrics were on point on that track.
No doubt, I like Light Shit Up the best.
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I really don't feel like his lyrics were bad at all. It was his 1st solo, and a double disc at that. He spit nothin but venom on the Eastcoast disc, and dropped a few gems on West Coast side too. I'll admit I haven't heard the album in it's entirety, but his lyrics sounded far better than say ATG, SDDS or any of the recent Dogg Pound albums.
True. I only have a problem with a couple cuts here and there. But overall, he had some heat. Game is still my shit off that East disc. His flow and lyrics were on point on that track.
No doubt, I like Light Shit Up the best.
Yeah that one and It's A Set Up. Nice little jab at Nas on there too.
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btw, you got a scan of that Source article by any chance? Did DPG get the cover of the Source when Dogg Food came out?
Unfortunately not. It was a feature they ran on the 10 hungriest new school MCs, or something like that. It was a fold-out orange cover with all of them together - Canibus was there, I think Big Pun was on it. For some strange reason I think they included Silkk the Shocker lol.
Kurupt was there, and he said something like: The only thing I ever prayed for was to be able to drop a perfect freestyle, straight off the top of my head. And I've been blessed to do that. (Something like that, I'm paraphrasing).
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Unfortunately not. It was a feature they ran on the 10 hungriest new school MCs, or something like that. It was a fold-out orange cover with all of them together - Canibus was there, I think Big Pun was on it. For some strange reason I think they included Silkk the Shocker lol.
Kurupt was there, and he said something like: The only thing I ever prayed for was to be able to drop a perfect freestyle, straight off the top of my head. And I've been blessed to do that. (Something like that, I'm paraphrasing).
thanks for the info.. yeah, I remember that Source issue, I think I used to have it. That came out when No Limit was owning the rap industry.
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yall hate, it aint all about lyrics... he made some dope songs on the westcoast disc... the east disc was ok... but fuck lyris -- sometimes u need good songs... and he made very good songs.. the west disc is a near classic to me
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LYRICALLY, he fell off after this and has gotten WORSE rhyming the same words over and over even on Streetz he was not rapping the way he did on Kuruption even though his FLOW was still tight but ever since then he really has lost his hunger to rap, that verse on Buccem on DOGG CHIT is perfect example, horrible FLOW and LYRICS, just my 2 cents
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LYRICALLY, he fell off after this and has gotten WORSE rhyming the same words over and over even on Streetz he was not rapping the way he did on Kuruption even though his FLOW was still tight but ever since then he really has lost his hunger to rap, that verse on Buccem on DOGG CHIT is perfect example, horrible FLOW and LYRICS, just my 2 cents
I made a thread about this album last week, I think it is very slept on and he lyrically was lethal on the album especially the East Coast Disc where he rips just about every track but the problem was the guest spots were suspect and so was the production on that disc except for a few bangers, I'ts A Set Up, Game, Freak it Remix, Light Shit Up are probably the standouts on the East Coast Disc and you can make an argument that lyrically this is his best solo album although I think he ripped Streetz up too. As far as Buccm I don't remember his verse but he does have a habit of repeating words in the same bar but I think he has sounded hungry of late
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LYRICALLY, he fell off after this and has gotten WORSE rhyming the same words over and over even on Streetz he was not rapping the way he did on Kuruption even though his FLOW was still tight but ever since then he really has lost his hunger to rap, that verse on Buccem on DOGG CHIT is perfect example, horrible FLOW and LYRICS, just my 2 cents
I made a thread about this album last week, I think it is very slept on and he lyrically was lethal on the album especially the East Coast Disc where he rips just about every track but the problem was the guest spots were suspect and so was the production on that disc except for a few bangers, I'ts A Set Up, Game, Freak it Remix, Light Shit Up are probably the standouts on the East Coast Disc and you can make an argument that lyrically this is his best solo album although I think he ripped Streetz up too. As far as Buccm I don't remember his verse but he does have a habit of repeating words in the same bar but I think he has sounded hungry of late
NOT trying to diss but if you think he sounds hungry lately maybe its because he's not EATING and doing TWEAK!
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Nothing now is going to compare or be on the same level as his Death Row material, but he has IMO been dropping some nice records lately.
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Nothing now is going to compare or be on the same level as his Death Row material, but he has IMO been dropping some nice records lately.
I've lost all hope for KURUPT since about 1999 but I have been checking for him just to see if there is anything left that even resembles dopeness but I was not impressed with his performance on DOGG CHIT his verses were EMBARRASSING at times especially on BUCCEM almost ruined a great beat with a verse that made completely no sense I don't know has he done anything else worthwile lately?
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Nothing now is going to compare or be on the same level as his Death Row material, but he has IMO been dropping some nice records lately.
I've lost all hope for KURUPT since about 1999 but I have been checking for him just to see if there is anything left that even resembles dopeness but I was not impressed with his performance on DOGG CHIT his verses were EMBARRASSING at times especially on BUCCEM almost ruined a great beat with a verse that made completely no sense I don't know has he done anything else worthwile lately?
I liked the joint he did on Hi-Tek's album, Tangled Thoughts, a few on Digital Smoke, he had some good songs on Same Day, Different Shit, I liked his verses on Blaze It Up, Where U From, and a few others I thought he really stepped it up on Dogg Chit. I have accepted Kurupt will not be the same mc he was in 95. I accepted that after Kuruption dropped. But even on that album and the ones that followed, he has made music that I can still enjoy.
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Nothing now is going to compare or be on the same level as his Death Row material, but he has IMO been dropping some nice records lately.
I've lost all hope for KURUPT since about 1999 but I have been checking for him just to see if there is anything left that even resembles dopeness but I was not impressed with his performance on DOGG CHIT his verses were EMBARRASSING at times especially on BUCCEM almost ruined a great beat with a verse that made completely no sense I don't know has he done anything else worthwile lately?
I liked the joint he did on Hi-Tek's album, Tangled Thoughts, a few on Digital Smoke, he had some good songs on Same Day, Different Shit, I liked his verses on Blaze It Up, Where U From, and a few others I thought he really stepped it up on Dogg Chit. I have accepted Kurupt will not be the same mc he was in 95. I accepted that after Kuruption dropped. But even on that album and the ones that followed, he has made music that I can still enjoy.
he had a TIGHT FLOW on that track with BAD AZZ I agree, I have not heard SAME DAY DIFFERENT SHIT in its entirety but I wasn't too iimpressed with the tracks that I remember but I will try to listen to it agaiin, thanks
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Nothing now is going to compare or be on the same level as his Death Row material, but he has IMO been dropping some nice records lately.
I've lost all hope for KURUPT since about 1999 but I have been checking for him just to see if there is anything left that even resembles dopeness but I was not impressed with his performance on DOGG CHIT his verses were EMBARRASSING at times especially on BUCCEM almost ruined a great beat with a verse that made completely no sense I don't know has he done anything else worthwile lately?
I liked the joint he did on Hi-Tek's album, Tangled Thoughts, a few on Digital Smoke, he had some good songs on Same Day, Different Shit, I liked his verses on Blaze It Up, Where U From, and a few others I thought he really stepped it up on Dogg Chit. I have accepted Kurupt will not be the same mc he was in 95. I accepted that after Kuruption dropped. But even on that album and the ones that followed, he has made music that I can still enjoy.
he had a TIGHT FLOW on that track with BAD AZZ I agree, I have not heard SAME DAY DIFFERENT SHIT in its entirety but I wasn't too iimpressed with the tracks that I remember but I will try to listen to it agaiin, thanks
Don't get me wrong, I understand where you are coming from. I don't remember Kurupt ever dropping a wack verse on DR. Now for me it is more of a collection of songs from different projects I like so believe me I ain't trying to convert people to him, but he does have some good songs and material that he still drops.
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he has dropped some nice tracks here and there I liked SDDS I thought he was pretty focused on that album and dropped some heaters, now if you are looking for the Kurupt of Death Row you are not going to get that package but he has ripped some tracks like Gangstas Part 2 where I think he spits a 32 bar verse that is as dope as anything he's done in this decade, he also had a sick verse on Push Bacc which was one of the first tracks he recorded with Daz since they reunited, props to the homey D~Nice for sending me The Last Of Tha Pound a while back, that was mostly tracks recorded when he was still on DR and its pretty much Dogg Food Kurupt, he has a solo called Started on that which is :o
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he has dropped some nice tracks here and there I liked SDDS I thought he was pretty focused on that album and dropped some heaters, now if you are looking for the Kurupt of Death Row you are not going to get that package but he has ripped some tracks like Gangstas Part 2 where I think he spits a 32 bar verse that is as dope as anything he's done in this decade, he also had a sick verse on Push Bacc which was one of the first tracks he recorded with Daz since they reunited, props to the homey D~Nice for sending me The Last Of Tha Pound a while back, that was mostly tracks recorded when he was still on DR and its pretty much Dogg Food Kurupt, he has a solo called Started on that which is :o
No problem. Yeah I liked SDDS. Not too long and not too short and he had some dope verses on there as well. My joint of the moment off that is that Nina Breeda song.
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Kuruption wasn't that bad.
Yeah the fuck it was.
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I think Kurupt's decline started 10 years ago with Kuruption. Streetz was amazing, but lyrically, even on that album, he wasn't as good as he was during the Death Row album. Streetz was still an incredible album despite that. After Space Boogie is when Kurupt really fell off a cliff and he's been awful ever since then.
92-97 Kurupt was a beast, flawless flow, incredible wordplay, every verse was incredible, top 10 emcee
97-01 Could still make great songs and albums but you notice a change, voice sounds hoarse, flow choppy and not as smooth, mails it in on a few songs, still manages to make a masterpiece with Streetz. Songs like Trylogy and Homeboys, Kurupt sounds like the Kurupt of old, while songs like Xplosive are just embarassing
02-now Awful, tragic, unlistenable, a complete embarassment. The only good verse during that whole period is on Hi-Tek's album.
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Kuruption wasn't that bad.
Yeah the fuck it was.
I liked the westcoast disc alot better than the eastcoast but it wasn't the worst album ever. it did have too many fucking tracks though.
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I think Kurupt's decline started 10 years ago with Kuruption. Streetz was amazing, but lyrically, even on that album, he wasn't as good as he was during the Death Row album. Streetz was still an incredible album despite that. After Space Boogie is when Kurupt really fell off a cliff and he's been awful ever since then.
92-97 Kurupt was a beast, flawless flow, incredible wordplay, every verse was incredible, top 10 emcee
97-01 Could still make great songs and albums but you notice a change, voice sounds hoarse, flow choppy and not as smooth, mails it in on a few songs, still manages to make a masterpiece with Streetz. Songs like Trylogy and Homeboys, Kurupt sounds like the Kurupt of old, while songs like Xplosive are just embarassing
02-now Awful, tragic, unlistenable, a complete embarassment. The only good verse during that whole period is on Hi-Tek's album.
on point, 92-97 Kurupt was definitely a top 10 MC but with Kuruption the decline was starting but still that album is his best lyrically especially on the East Coast Disc he spit flames on It's A Set Up, Game, Freak It Remix, Gimmewhatchagot, I would say that album he killed most of the tracks, Streetz was lyrically a step down from Kuruption but still dope I think maybe he sacrificed some of lyrics to sharpen up his flow which was almost flawless on Streetz he rode the beats to perfection, after that Space Boogie was another step down in lyrics where he seemed to start to freestyle his verses alot and alot of them didn't really make sense or have any type of direction behind them
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I think Kurupt's decline started 10 years ago with Kuruption. Streetz was amazing, but lyrically, even on that album, he wasn't as good as he was during the Death Row album. Streetz was still an incredible album despite that. After Space Boogie is when Kurupt really fell off a cliff and he's been awful ever since then.
92-97 Kurupt was a beast, flawless flow, incredible wordplay, every verse was incredible, top 10 emcee
97-01 Could still make great songs and albums but you notice a change, voice sounds hoarse, flow choppy and not as smooth, mails it in on a few songs, still manages to make a masterpiece with Streetz. Songs like Trylogy and Homeboys, Kurupt sounds like the Kurupt of old, while songs like Xplosive are just embarassing
02-now Awful, tragic, unlistenable, a complete embarassment. The only good verse during that whole period is on Hi-Tek's album.
on point, 92-97 Kurupt was definitely a top 10 MC but with Kuruption the decline was starting but still that album is his best lyrically especially on the East Coast Disc he spit flames on It's A Set Up, Game, Freak It Remix, Gimmewhatchagot, I would say that album he killed most of the tracks, Streetz was lyrically a step down from Kuruption but still dope I think maybe he sacrificed some of lyrics to sharpen up his flow which was almost flawless on Streetz he rode the beats to perfection, after that Space Boogie was another step down in lyrics where he seemed to start to freestyle his verses alot and alot of them didn't really make sense or have any type of direction behind them
Can anyone think of a mc that has changed THAT much rapping wise? The only other one I can think of and their careers are so alike to me is Prodigy. When focused Kurupt can still make good songs. I think the battle mc in him wants to lyrically destroy a track. I have seen it on Rap City, his freestyles are str8 fire. But on a album song it seems like the freestyling makes the verses choppy. Great thread, because at one time he was becoming one of the greats. Hell Biggie said Kurupt was one of his favorites.
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I think Kurupt's decline started 10 years ago with Kuruption. Streetz was amazing, but lyrically, even on that album, he wasn't as good as he was during the Death Row album. Streetz was still an incredible album despite that. After Space Boogie is when Kurupt really fell off a cliff and he's been awful ever since then.
92-97 Kurupt was a beast, flawless flow, incredible wordplay, every verse was incredible, top 10 emcee
97-01 Could still make great songs and albums but you notice a change, voice sounds hoarse, flow choppy and not as smooth, mails it in on a few songs, still manages to make a masterpiece with Streetz. Songs like Trylogy and Homeboys, Kurupt sounds like the Kurupt of old, while songs like Xplosive are just embarassing
02-now Awful, tragic, unlistenable, a complete embarassment. The only good verse during that whole period is on Hi-Tek's album.
on point, 92-97 Kurupt was definitely a top 10 MC but with Kuruption the decline was starting but still that album is his best lyrically especially on the East Coast Disc he spit flames on It's A Set Up, Game, Freak It Remix, Gimmewhatchagot, I would say that album he killed most of the tracks, Streetz was lyrically a step down from Kuruption but still dope I think maybe he sacrificed some of lyrics to sharpen up his flow which was almost flawless on Streetz he rode the beats to perfection, after that Space Boogie was another step down in lyrics where he seemed to start to freestyle his verses alot and alot of them didn't really make sense or have any type of direction behind them
Can anyone think of a mc that has changed THAT much rapping wise? The only other one I can think of and their careers are so alike to me is Prodigy. When focused Kurupt can still make good songs. I think the battle mc in him wants to lyrically destroy a track. I have seen it on Rap City, his freestyles are str8 fire. But on a album song it seems like the freestyling makes the verses choppy. Great thread, because at one time he was becoming one of the greats. Hell Biggie said Kurupt was one of his favorites.
yeah that is pretty much the only MC comparible Prodigy went through a phase where he would spit verses that were not even close to rhyming really weird shit he has spit better on his album this year but not close to the Prodigy of old, the thing with Prodigy is you also could kind of sense a falloff when he released HNIC it was still dope but not the same P
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I think Kurupt's decline started 10 years ago with Kuruption. Streetz was amazing, but lyrically, even on that album, he wasn't as good as he was during the Death Row album. Streetz was still an incredible album despite that. After Space Boogie is when Kurupt really fell off a cliff and he's been awful ever since then.
92-97 Kurupt was a beast, flawless flow, incredible wordplay, every verse was incredible, top 10 emcee
97-01 Could still make great songs and albums but you notice a change, voice sounds hoarse, flow choppy and not as smooth, mails it in on a few songs, still manages to make a masterpiece with Streetz. Songs like Trylogy and Homeboys, Kurupt sounds like the Kurupt of old, while songs like Xplosive are just embarassing
02-now Awful, tragic, unlistenable, a complete embarassment. The only good verse during that whole period is on Hi-Tek's album.
on point, 92-97 Kurupt was definitely a top 10 MC but with Kuruption the decline was starting but still that album is his best lyrically especially on the East Coast Disc he spit flames on It's A Set Up, Game, Freak It Remix, Gimmewhatchagot, I would say that album he killed most of the tracks, Streetz was lyrically a step down from Kuruption but still dope I think maybe he sacrificed some of lyrics to sharpen up his flow which was almost flawless on Streetz he rode the beats to perfection, after that Space Boogie was another step down in lyrics where he seemed to start to freestyle his verses alot and alot of them didn't really make sense or have any type of direction behind them
Can anyone think of a mc that has changed THAT much rapping wise? The only other one I can think of and their careers are so alike to me is Prodigy. When focused Kurupt can still make good songs. I think the battle mc in him wants to lyrically destroy a track. I have seen it on Rap City, his freestyles are str8 fire. But on a album song it seems like the freestyling makes the verses choppy. Great thread, because at one time he was becoming one of the greats. Hell Biggie said Kurupt was one of his favorites.
yeah that is pretty much the only MC comparible Prodigy went through a phase where he would spit verses that were not even close to rhyming really weird shit he has spit better on his album this year but not close to the Prodigy of old, the thing with Prodigy is you also could kind of sense a falloff when he released HNIC it was still dope but not the same P
The similarities are crazy with them. Both fell off a bit, both's partners in crime clearly out rap them now at times (Daz & Havoc) both went to producers other than in they group to revive they career (Alchemist and Fred Wreck). Both put out "underground" albums to get a buzz back on they career a little bit. Prodigy used to spit fire back in the day. Especially his collabos with Nas and Who Shot Ya remix.
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I think Kurupt's decline started 10 years ago with Kuruption. Streetz was amazing, but lyrically, even on that album, he wasn't as good as he was during the Death Row album. Streetz was still an incredible album despite that. After Space Boogie is when Kurupt really fell off a cliff and he's been awful ever since then.
92-97 Kurupt was a beast, flawless flow, incredible wordplay, every verse was incredible, top 10 emcee
97-01 Could still make great songs and albums but you notice a change, voice sounds hoarse, flow choppy and not as smooth, mails it in on a few songs, still manages to make a masterpiece with Streetz. Songs like Trylogy and Homeboys, Kurupt sounds like the Kurupt of old, while songs like Xplosive are just embarassing
02-now Awful, tragic, unlistenable, a complete embarassment. The only good verse during that whole period is on Hi-Tek's album.
on point, 92-97 Kurupt was definitely a top 10 MC but with Kuruption the decline was starting but still that album is his best lyrically especially on the East Coast Disc he spit flames on It's A Set Up, Game, Freak It Remix, Gimmewhatchagot, I would say that album he killed most of the tracks, Streetz was lyrically a step down from Kuruption but still dope I think maybe he sacrificed some of lyrics to sharpen up his flow which was almost flawless on Streetz he rode the beats to perfection, after that Space Boogie was another step down in lyrics where he seemed to start to freestyle his verses alot and alot of them didn't really make sense or have any type of direction behind them
Can anyone think of a mc that has changed THAT much rapping wise? The only other one I can think of and their careers are so alike to me is Prodigy. When focused Kurupt can still make good songs. I think the battle mc in him wants to lyrically destroy a track. I have seen it on Rap City, his freestyles are str8 fire. But on a album song it seems like the freestyling makes the verses choppy. Great thread, because at one time he was becoming one of the greats. Hell Biggie said Kurupt was one of his favorites.
yeah that is pretty much the only MC comparible Prodigy went through a phase where he would spit verses that were not even close to rhyming really weird shit he has spit better on his album this year but not close to the Prodigy of old, the thing with Prodigy is you also could kind of sense a falloff when he released HNIC it was still dope but not the same P
The similarities are crazy with them. Both fell off a bit, both's partners in crime clearly out rap them now at times (Daz & Havoc) both went to producers other than in they group to revive they career (Alchemist and Fred Wreck). Both put out "underground" albums to get a buzz back on they career a little bit. Prodigy used to spit fire back in the day. Especially his collabos with Nas and Who Shot Ya remix.
yeah Prodigy was so cold with it back then he really defined East Coast grimy rap, I remember having debates about who was iller Mobb or Wu and I always was a fan of both but I tended to side with P cause he was from Queens, another MC who fell off kinda was Meth but not to that extent of P or Kurupt but '93-'94 Meth was definitely up there as well
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Method Man made more of the songs the label wanted to hear from him. They wanted that Mary J collabo type tracks from him (the one with D'Angelo for example, although I kind of liked that song) so his music was watered down. But that was never the music he wanted to do. Kind of like how Kurupt tried to capitalize off of It's Over. By the time that came out, Jay-Z and Busta rocked songs with the kids on the chorus and Kurupt's song completely bit off that concept and it was sappy and weak as fuck.
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another thing that I wanted to point out is the fact that drug abuse might have been a big factor in alot of these MCs falling off, and I'm not talking weed, I don't know to what extent but years of doing hardcore drugs would defintiley have a big effect as these dudes get older
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another thing that I wanted to point out is the fact that drug abuse might have been a big factor in alot of these MCs falling off, and I'm not talking weed, I don't know to what extent but years of doing hardcore drugs would defintiley have a big effect as these dudes get older
Most def that got alot to do with it. I remember the freestyle Kurupt spit on either G-TV or Tha Alkaholiks DVD when he was on the tour bus and he was perving on something. High as a kite and that shit was not weed. ;D
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another thing that I wanted to point out is the fact that drug abuse might have been a big factor in alot of these MCs falling off, and I'm not talking weed, I don't know to what extent but years of doing hardcore drugs would defintiley have a big effect as these dudes get older
Most def that got alot to do with it. I remember the freestyle Kurupt spit on either G-TV or Tha Alkaholiks DVD when he was on the tour bus and he was perving on something. High as a kite and that shit was not weed. ;D
LOL, yeah I also remember seeing a cip of him with Jayo somewhere where he was defilnitely on some shit, in the middle of the beefing with Daz
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another thing that I wanted to point out is the fact that drug abuse might have been a big factor in alot of these MCs falling off, and I'm not talking weed, I don't know to what extent but years of doing hardcore drugs would defintiley have a big effect as these dudes get older
Most def that got alot to do with it. I remember the freestyle Kurupt spit on either G-TV or Tha Alkaholiks DVD when he was on the tour bus and he was perving on something. High as a kite and that shit was not weed. ;D
LOL, yeah I also remember seeing a cip of him with Jayo somewhere where he was defilnitely on some shit, in the middle of the beefing with Daz
Yeah I remember that one, I think they were at some club or something. Even through all that, I am interested to hear what he will come up with for his album on Doggystyle. Like he said in a interview here, he started that album off with 3 records from Fred Wreck and 3 from Mel-Man. That Westside Ridin track was fiyah, probably won't make the album though but a dope ass track.
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another thing that I wanted to point out is the fact that drug abuse might have been a big factor in alot of these MCs falling off, and I'm not talking weed, I don't know to what extent but years of doing hardcore drugs would defintiley have a big effect as these dudes get older
Most def that got alot to do with it. I remember the freestyle Kurupt spit on either G-TV or Tha Alkaholiks DVD when he was on the tour bus and he was perving on something. High as a kite and that shit was not weed. ;D
LOL, yeah I also remember seeing a cip of him with Jayo somewhere where he was defilnitely on some shit, in the middle of the beefing with Daz
Yeah I remember that one, I think they were at some club or something. Even through all that, I am interested to hear what he will come up with for his album on Doggystyle. Like he said in a interview here, he started that album off with 3 records from Fred Wreck and 3 from Mel-Man. That Westside Ridin track was fiyah, probably won't make the album though but a dope ass track.
I still think Gotti can make some dope ass records and spit some fire at times, I liked his verse on Gangstas Pt 2 he spit 32 bars and sounded as good as he's sounded in recent years, also that Mystic River track produced by Battlecat probably won't make his album but I thought it was a nice smooth track
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People sleep on that Gangstas Pt. 2 track. I was telling people about that track last year when it dropped. And other than you Luni, Tanj and a few others on this board it goes unoticed. Oh well. That Mystic River is crazy too.
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I think alot of people remember how smooth the first Gangstaz track was and then they hear this beat that sounds like its on speed or some shit ;D
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I think alot of people remember how smooth the first Gangstaz track was and then they hear this beat that sounds like its on speed or some shit ;D
I could not stand that beat at first but it has grown on me a little bit. Either way lyrically it is better than the first one to me. Much longer individual verses.
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I think alot of people remember how smooth the first Gangstaz track was and then they hear this beat that sounds like its on speed or some shit ;D
I could not stand that beat at first but it has grown on me a little bit. Either way lyrically it is better than the first one to me. Much longer individual verses.
one of the few times recently when both Daz and Kurupt are on top of their game on the same track 8)
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someone post up the track with hi-tek i aint heard it.
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the lyrics are the only tight things about Gangstaz pt.2 to me.
I can't hear the vocals over the noisy/busy ass beat. i don't like the beat that much and I feel both MC's deliveries were lacking but I think it's just the audio levels.
Honestly, Kuruption's west coast disc is dope (except for put that on something) but cause of the over-all songs. not the lyrics.
be real, he didn't even lyrically rip up SIAM, he came just dope enough to be in the same caliber as the great production he got on TSIAM.
after songs like blaze it up and where u from on dogg chit I was hoping for more from digi-smoke but tristar and roscoe outshine him. is tristar in tangled thoughts or no? cause if he/roscoe ain't, i'm just gonna burn the 5 kurupt tracks from tangled thoughts.
Kurupt can still rip shit (that's it, keep it movin', where u from, keep it gangsta) but he needs to sit down and write his verses which he clearly just is not willing to do anymore.
-T
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the lyrics are the only tight things about Gangstaz pt.2 to me.
I can't hear the vocals over the noisy/busy ass beat. i don't like the beat that much and I feel both MC's deliveries were lacking but I think it's just the audio levels.
Honestly, Kuruption's west coast disc is dope (except for put that on something) but cause of the over-all songs. not the lyrics.
be real, he didn't even lyrically rip up SIAM, he came just dope enough to be in the same caliber as the great production he got on TSIAM.
after songs like blaze it up and where u from on dogg chit I was hoping for more from digi-smoke but tristar and roscoe outshine him. is tristar in tangled thoughts or no? cause if he/roscoe ain't, i'm just gonna burn the 5 kurupt tracks from tangled thoughts.
Kurupt can still rip shit (that's it, keep it movin', where u from, keep it gangsta) but he needs to sit down and write his verses which he clearly just is not willing to do anymore.
-T
Nah Tri-Star is not in Tangled Thoughts. You ain't never lied on TSIAM lyrically. It was dope as fuck but other than a handful of tracks it still does not equal his DR material. But TSIAM is to me the blueprint to a great Dogg Pound album.
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the lyrics are the only tight things about Gangstaz pt.2 to me.
I can't hear the vocals over the noisy/busy ass beat. i don't like the beat that much and I feel both MC's deliveries were lacking but I think it's just the audio levels.
Honestly, Kuruption's west coast disc is dope (except for put that on something) but cause of the over-all songs. not the lyrics.
be real, he didn't even lyrically rip up SIAM, he came just dope enough to be in the same caliber as the great production he got on TSIAM.
after songs like blaze it up and where u from on dogg chit I was hoping for more from digi-smoke but tristar and roscoe outshine him. is tristar in tangled thoughts or no? cause if he/roscoe ain't, i'm just gonna burn the 5 kurupt tracks from tangled thoughts.
Kurupt can still rip shit (that's it, keep it movin', where u from, keep it gangsta) but he needs to sit down and write his verses which he clearly just is not willing to do anymore.
-T
Tanj you are right about the west coast disc but you are underrating the East Coast Disc a little, Kurupt spits pure crack on It's A Set Up and Game those are 2 tracks that are probably as dope as anything he has done and the Freak it Remix he has some nice chemistry with Nore and again kills the mic, he really murdered most of the tracks on that disc but alot of them are unlistenable because of the subpar production and guest spots
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The Life on the East Coast disc is dope too with El Drex. Probably the best flow and lyrics other than Game. A few lyrics where recycled but dope nonetheless.
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there's like 3 or so songs on the east coast disc i really like like "game"
if he took all the dope rhymes from it's a setup and made on tight 3:30 length song, shit woulda been classic.
where does he take a shot at Nas?
-T
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there's like 3 or so songs on the east coast disc i really like like "game"
if he took all the dope rhymes from it's a setup and made on tight 3:30 length song, shit woulda been classic.
where does he take a shot at Nas?
-T
Well here are the lyrics:
Let's do it doggs, ring ding dong
Bitch (aha, aha), bitch (yeah what what what what what?)
Beeitch (set up, set up, set up), beeitch (it's a set up)
What they're doing? they're trying to...
They're trying to set me up, they're trying to set me up
They wanna set me up, they wanna set me up
They're trying to set me up, they're trying to set me up
They're trying to set me up, but check it out
This is it, call it how you wanna call it
Brawling, call in the headhunter, start headhunting
How do you want it? i said we could spread arms
Bust and stare, you wanna snatch a life, is that right?
Wanna-get-rich ass nigga, snitch ass nigga
Fake switch bitch ass nigga, up-in-to-get-lynched ass nigga
Ain't nothing to it, raw doggs doing the lynching, master assassins
Henchmen, the whole world's against me (fuck 'em)
It's a million to one, kurupt with one gun
And a whole backyard of ammo
Dump these lumps in nigga's backs like a camel
Get torn and worn just like sandals, now his willy came to an end
You see that nigga he ride with, do him in
This nigga's so sweet, he got my girl to set me
Got her with the tech to tech me and disconnect me
There's no (???) when you're playing russian roulette
They're trying to catch me, lay me down and sketch me
Young gotti, (???)
Bringing the whole fucking entourage of murderous minds
I don't know who rides with a mental dome, who will and who won't
Trust me, they all wanna bust me, it's a set up
The part in bold I always thought he said Nas career come to a end. I know they had beef for a little bit because Nas said he did not want Foxy Brown dating no gangstas. But unless the person who typed these lyrics did not type them correctly. Because I really don't see with these lyrics how he is going at Nas.
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willy? dissing Ill Will? I don't know....his delivery and enunciation on the track is mad sloppy. but i doubt he's dissing Nas.
I thought about that line before, but it just seemed to me he was painting a picture. a hypothetical gangsta set up situaton.
-T
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I am going to listen to that track again because those lyrics are mad off.
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I always thought he got at Nas on Can't Let That Slide when he says "You little chiped toothed muthafucka, you about to get slapped like a muthafuckin bitch for that"
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Nas has a chipped tooth?
-T
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Nas has a chipped tooth?
-T
he used to back in the days but he got it fixed in recent years