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MVP3 For Nash?
By John Hareas
Posted Apr 18 2007 7:25PM
SECAUCUS, N.J., April 18, 2007 -- Bill Russell. Wilt Chamberlain. Larry Bird.
Steve Nash?
The two-time NBA MVP is on the doorstep of NBA history, on the cusp of perhaps joining the three Hall of Famers as only players to ever win the NBA MVP Award three consecutive years, a distinct honor that somehow managed to elude all-time greats Oscar Robertson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan but may not Nash.
An honor, according to Russell, should go to Nash once again.
“Nothing has changed from last year,” said Russell. “I think in terms of marketing [for the award], the way the Suns beat the Mavs the last two times should help sway it in his favor.
It was those two performances by Nash in which the Suns won both games over Dirk Nowitzki and the Mavs that has helped keep his name in the MVP running. Performances in which four of his teammates posted double figures, a selfless characteristic that helped define Bird’s legendary career.
“His ability to make other players around him better,” said Bird. “All the great players were able to do that. His style is a little different than most. He can get in the lane about any time he wants. He controls the ball as good as anybody ever has in this league and to do some of the things he does is pretty remarkable.”
How about Bird and Nash on the same team? Could you imagine? Bird certainly would have welcomed the opportunity.
“Anyone would love to play with him. Playing with guys like Steve or Magic Johnson or John Stockton, guys like that, they just make the game so much easier for everybody else. If you can hit open shots, you are going to look good.”
The Nash-Dirk debate should result in one of the closest MVP votings in years. Whether it is the closest of all time remains to be seen. In 1956-57, the second year the award was issued, another Celtics legend, Bob Cousy, edged first-year recipient Bob Pettit by a mere 11 votes.
What about co-MVPs for Nash and Dirk? In the 51 year history of the award, there has never been two players who shared the honor and Bird hopes to keep it that way.
“I hope they don’t give co-MVPs, because if Steve gets it, I want him to win it outright so he can get three in a row. But if Dirk is the better one, give it to him. I don’t think you can go wrong with either one of them.”
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I'll be down for giving the award to Nash, as a result the NBA would be looked even more as a bunch of idiots ( these so-called Xperts who vote for the award) to give three MVP in a row to a player who's gonna retire with 0 ring...
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I'll be down for giving the award to Nash, as a result the NBA would be looked even more as a bunch of idiots ( these so-called Xperts who vote for the award) to give three MVP in a row to a player who's gonna retire with 0 ring...
But it's not supposed to be about playoff success right? I was thinking thats the reason it gets announced before the season is over. Nash deserves it just as much as anyone else if that's the case.
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
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And they never picked Nash VVV
"I don’t think you can go wrong with either one of them."
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
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If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
(http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbdown.gif)
If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.
Nash is not the best player on his team
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
(http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbdown.gif)
If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.
Nash is not the best player on his team
Why do you post bullshit without any reason? Suns are a completely different team without Nash, they are lost without him there. Amare isn't better, Marion isn't and Barbosa isn't either. I think your just upset that Nash bounced your team out 2 consecutive years.
Nash played phenominal defense today as well, and was just sitting there with blood pouring out of his nose for a half hour, still trying to get into the game.
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
(http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbdown.gif)
If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.
Nash is not the best player on his team
Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today? Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash? They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses??? Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.
And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title? Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments. Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.
And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place? Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?! The logic used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......
Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash? How about in the league? I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list.
And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
(http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbdown.gif)
If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.
Nash is not the best player on his team
Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today? Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash? They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses??? Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.
And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title? Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments. Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.
And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place? Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?! The logic used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......
Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash? How about in the league? I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list.
And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........
Don't you know that regardless of record the Lakers are always the best team in the NBA? Kwame would be top 5 in the league had Michael Jordan not shattered his confidence his rookie year, Everybody on the current Laker team is better than Shaq, and teams that are in the playoffs aren't playoff teams. If the Lakers played as good the entire season as they did in 3 quarters against the Suns in game 1, no team in NBA could touch them. And if you point out all of these contradictions you obviously don't know shit about basketball or are retarded.
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
(http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbdown.gif)
If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.
Nash is not the best player on his team
Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today? Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash? They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses??? Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.
And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title? Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments. Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.
And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place? Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?! The logic used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......
Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash? How about in the league? I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list.
And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........
Don't you know that regardless of record the Lakers are always the best team in the NBA? Kwame would be top 5 in the league had Michael Jordan not shattered his confidence his rookie year, Everybody on the current Laker team is better than Shaq, and teams that are in the playoffs aren't playoff teams. If the Lakers played as good the entire season as they did in 3 quarters against the Suns in game 1, no team in NBA could touch them. And if you point out all of these contradictions you obviously don't know shit about basketball or are retarded.
DAMN! haha
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
(http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbdown.gif)
If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.
Nash is not the best player on his team
Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today? Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash? They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses??? Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.
And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title? Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments. Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.
And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place? Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?! The logic used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......
Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash? How about in the league? I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list.
And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........
I think he just posts crap like that just to start arguments.
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
(http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbdown.gif)
If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.
Nash is not the best player on his team
Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today? Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash? They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses??? Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.
And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title? Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments. Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.
And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place? Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?! The logic used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......
Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash? How about in the league? I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list.
And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........
Of course if you take out Nash, the Suns are lost. He's the only point guard on the team who can run that offense! LOL. Barbosa is a scorer and Marcus Banks is lost...Nash means everything to that team, but it doesn't mean he's the best player. Amare and Marion are both better individual players than Nash. You say "why dont the Lakers run the Suns offense if it's so easy!?"...Because it's a jumpshooters offense and it will never win a title. And we don't even have enough jumpshooters/offensive firepower to run it to begin with...LOL@"why does it matter if Nash wins a title?". If he can't lead his team to anything past regular season succes, I guess he's not THAT valuable now, is he? Especially not "3-time consecutive MVP valuable". :puke: And nobody from your list said Nash is pound for pound the best player in the game...That's almost funnier than Steve Nash playing "phenominal defense"...LMAO
You cannot replace Kobe on the Lakers, no other player would be able to lead them to the playoffs. You cannot replace Duncan on the Spurs, no other player would make the Spurs sucha threat. But you CAN replace Nash in the Suns' system with a high-powered point guard...A Jason Kidd, a Baron Davis, a Tony Parker...Those all have something in common. They're all players on Nash's level and they're also all NOT MVP caliber players...PeACe
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
(http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbdown.gif)
If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.
Nash is not the best player on his team
Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today? Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash? They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses??? Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.
And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title? Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments. Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.
And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place? Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?! The logic used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......
Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash? How about in the league? I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list.
And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........
Of course if you take out Nash, the Suns are lost. He's the only point guard on the team who can run that offense! LOL. Barbosa is a scorer and Marcus Banks is lost...Nash means everything to that team, but it doesn't mean he's the best player. Amare and Marion are both better individual players than Nash. You say "why dont the Lakers run the Suns offense if it's so easy!?"...Because it's a jumpshooters offense and it will never win a title. And we don't even have enough jumpshooters/offensive firepower to run it to begin with...LOL@"why does it matter if Nash wins a title?". If he can't lead his team to anything past regular season succes, I guess he's not THAT valuable now, is he? Especially not "3-time consecutive MVP valuable". :puke: And nobody from your list said Nash is pound for pound the best player in the game...That's almost funnier than Steve Nash playing "phenominal defense"...LMAO
You cannot replace Kobe on the Lakers, no other player would be able to lead them to the playoffs. You cannot replace Duncan on the Spurs, no other player would make the Spurs sucha threat. But you CAN replace Nash in the Suns' system with a high-powered point guard...A Jason Kidd, a Baron Davis, a Tony Parker...Those all have something in common. They're all players on Nash's level and they're also all NOT MVP caliber players...PeACe
Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1. Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
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hope nowitzki still gets it so i can point and laugh at him.
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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.
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If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.
i agree Nash is the best PG in the league by far... and best at running an offense
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
More than half the time, Nash just runs with it. I'm sorry I'm not on the Phoenix sidelines, but that's the way they play.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
Enough of this "learn the game bullshit"; do you even play the game? Have you coached? WHat makes you superior to everyone else? What makes you feel entitled to your elitist opinion??? Do you know what a bball IQ is??? Nash's is likely top 3 in the league, he makes the right plays at the right time. How else can you explain the efficiency of the SUns? Yes, D'Antoni runs the plays, but he DOES NOT make the split second decisions on the court that Nash does.
And to say MArion is better than Nash is ludicrous. Marion is a GREAT fastbreak player and defender, but has a horrendous shot and cannot create for himself.
NIK, your posts are starting to look like that Muslim guys in the outbound section; biased, narrow-minded, and above all laughable. You continuously try to belittle everyone else, but you end up looking foolish.
Still waiting on that LONG list of players better and/or more valuable than Nash............
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
Enough of this "learn the game bullshit"; do you even play the game? Have you coached? WHat makes you superior to everyone else? What makes you feel entitled to your elitist opinion??? Do you know what a bball IQ is??? Nash's is likely top 3 in the league, he makes the right plays at the right time. How else can you explain the efficiency of the SUns? Yes, D'Antoni runs the plays, but he DOES NOT make the split second decisions on the court that Nash does.
And to say MArion is better than Nash is ludicrous. Marion is a GREAT fastbreak player and defender, but has a horrendous shot and cannot create for himself.
NIK, your posts are starting to look like that Muslim guys in the outbound section; biased, narrow-minded, and above all laughable. You continuously try to belittle everyone else, but you end up looking foolish.
Still waiting on that LONG list of players better and/or more valuable than Nash............
Real talk, I can't post a fuckin opinion about basketball without being told I'm wrong. I dunno what makes the boy think he's so special as far as the sport goes. When someone posts bullshit to purposley get a rise out of people, it should be in the G-Spot, not fuckin up the sports section imo.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
Enough of this "learn the game bullshit"; do you even play the game? Have you coached? WHat makes you superior to everyone else? What makes you feel entitled to your elitist opinion??? Do you know what a bball IQ is??? Nash's is likely top 3 in the league, he makes the right plays at the right time. How else can you explain the efficiency of the SUns? Yes, D'Antoni runs the plays, but he DOES NOT make the split second decisions on the court that Nash does.
And to say MArion is better than Nash is ludicrous. Marion is a GREAT fastbreak player and defender, but has a horrendous shot and cannot create for himself.
NIK, your posts are starting to look like that Muslim guys in the outbound section; biased, narrow-minded, and above all laughable. You continuously try to belittle everyone else, but you end up looking foolish.
Still waiting on that LONG list of players better and/or more valuable than Nash............
Real talk, I can't post a fuckin opinion about basketball without being told I'm wrong. I dunno what makes the boy think he's so special as far as the sport goes. When someone posts bullshit to purposley get a rise out of people, it should be in the G-Spot, not fuckin up the sports section imo.
Just ignore him or make fun of him. It's a lot better than trying to have a real discussion with him. He has no credibility anyway.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
Enough of this "learn the game bullshit"; do you even play the game? Have you coached? WHat makes you superior to everyone else? What makes you feel entitled to your elitist opinion??? Do you know what a bball IQ is??? Nash's is likely top 3 in the league, he makes the right plays at the right time. How else can you explain the efficiency of the SUns? Yes, D'Antoni runs the plays, but he DOES NOT make the split second decisions on the court that Nash does.
And to say MArion is better than Nash is ludicrous. Marion is a GREAT fastbreak player and defender, but has a horrendous shot and cannot create for himself.
NIK, your posts are starting to look like that Muslim guys in the outbound section; biased, narrow-minded, and above all laughable. You continuously try to belittle everyone else, but you end up looking foolish.
Still waiting on that LONG list of players better and/or more valuable than Nash............
Real talk, I can't post a fuckin opinion about basketball without being told I'm wrong. I dunno what makes the boy think he's so special as far as the sport goes. When someone posts bullshit to purposley get a rise out of people, it should be in the G-Spot, not fuckin up the sports section imo.
Just ignore him or make fun of him. It's a lot better than trying to have a real discussion with him. He has no credibility anyway.
Guess thats the way it's gotta be.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
The NBA isn't high school basketball. Nash doesn't look to the sidelines every time down the court. Even when D'Antoni is calling the plays, it takes a certain level of improvisation and awareness to make them work, which Nash excels at.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
Enough of this "learn the game bullshit"; do you even play the game? Have you coached? WHat makes you superior to everyone else? What makes you feel entitled to your elitist opinion??? Do you know what a bball IQ is??? Nash's is likely top 3 in the league, he makes the right plays at the right time. How else can you explain the efficiency of the SUns? Yes, D'Antoni runs the plays, but he DOES NOT make the split second decisions on the court that Nash does.
And to say MArion is better than Nash is ludicrous. Marion is a GREAT fastbreak player and defender, but has a horrendous shot and cannot create for himself.
NIK, your posts are starting to look like that Muslim guys in the outbound section; biased, narrow-minded, and above all laughable. You continuously try to belittle everyone else, but you end up looking foolish.
Still waiting on that LONG list of players better and/or more valuable than Nash............
When did I say I was superior to everyone else? You said that yourself. LOL. Unlike certain dudes who post here (Jromo), I back up my opinions with facts, I don't just spew random BS. And unlike certain BSPN daily viewers, I refuse to believe Nash all of a sudden transformed from a borderline all-star to an MVP caliber player at the age of 31 over the coarse of an off-season, coincidentally when he got traded into the stat-inflating D'Antoni system. Of course Nash is gunna put up the stats. THE SUNS PUT UP THE MOST STATS IN THE LEAGUE AS A TEAM. OPPONENTS PUT UP STATS AGAINST THEM AS WELL. It's their style. Does it mean they're the best? NO. Does it mean Nash is the best? HELL NO. It's just MY OPINION that you're brainwashed, just like all these other heads all up on Nash's dick...Don't get butthurt over it, it's simply an opinion, I'm not tryna "belittle" anyone.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
The NBA isn't high school basketball. Nash doesn't look to the sidelines every time down the court. Even when D'Antoni is calling the plays, it takes a certain level of improvisation and awareness to make them work, which Nash excels at.
It has nothing to do with "looking to the sidelines"...It's D'Anotni's system which inflates stats, not Nash. Nash just executes the system. It's D'ANTONI'S "7 seconds or less" system, which, yes, is a disgrace to real basketball IMO...PeACe
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
The NBA isn't high school basketball. Nash doesn't look to the sidelines every time down the court. Even when D'Antoni is calling the plays, it takes a certain level of improvisation and awareness to make them work, which Nash excels at.
It has nothing to do with "looking to the sidelines"...It's D'Anotni's system which inflates stats, not Nash. Nash just executes the system. It's D'ANTONI'S "7 seconds or less" system, which, yes, is a disgrace to real basketball IMO...PeACe
Whether you think it's a disgrace or not is irrelevant. It works. Nash makes it work.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
The NBA isn't high school basketball. Nash doesn't look to the sidelines every time down the court. Even when D'Antoni is calling the plays, it takes a certain level of improvisation and awareness to make them work, which Nash excels at.
It has nothing to do with "looking to the sidelines"...It's D'Anotni's system which inflates stats, not Nash. Nash just executes the system. It's D'ANTONI'S "7 seconds or less" system, which, yes, is a disgrace to real basketball IMO...PeACe
Whether you think it's a disgrace or not is irrelevant. It works. Nash makes it work.
Exactly, and no other PG would be able to do it as well either.
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
The NBA isn't high school basketball. Nash doesn't look to the sidelines every time down the court. Even when D'Antoni is calling the plays, it takes a certain level of improvisation and awareness to make them work, which Nash excels at.
It has nothing to do with "looking to the sidelines"...It's D'Anotni's system which inflates stats, not Nash. Nash just executes the system. It's D'ANTONI'S "7 seconds or less" system, which, yes, is a disgrace to real basketball IMO...PeACe
Whether you think it's a disgrace or not is irrelevant. It works. Nash makes it work.
Exactly, and no other PG would be able to do it as well either.
Yea...It works so well that they will never make the finals with it. LOL@a jumpshooting playoff team. Back in the days, when basketball was at it's purest, that was considered blasphemous.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
The NBA isn't high school basketball. Nash doesn't look to the sidelines every time down the court. Even when D'Antoni is calling the plays, it takes a certain level of improvisation and awareness to make them work, which Nash excels at.
It has nothing to do with "looking to the sidelines"...It's D'Anotni's system which inflates stats, not Nash. Nash just executes the system. It's D'ANTONI'S "7 seconds or less" system, which, yes, is a disgrace to real basketball IMO...PeACe
Whether you think it's a disgrace or not is irrelevant. It works. Nash makes it work.
Exactly, and no other PG would be able to do it as well either.
Yea...It works so well that they will never make the finals with it. LOL@a jumpshooting playoff team. Back in the days, when basketball was at it's purest, that was considered blasphemous.
LOL at the historian.
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I can't pick which is worse... Steve Nash's defense or phillyboy's "comebacks".
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I can't pick which is worse... Steve Nash's defense or phillyboy's "comebacks".
LOL at you thinking I'm doing anything but laughing at you. They are fun to watch, Nash is fun too watch, and it's GOOD for the league most of all. I'd rather watch them over a team that feeds the ball too one player who curses and bitches at every non-call he feels he should have got. I'd watch Phoenix over that ANY day.
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Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.
LMAO
Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.
And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.
LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe
D'Antoni isn't running the point.
D'Antoni is running the plays.
Bullshit, on defense maybe, but Nash runs that offense 9 times out of 10.
Bullshit? LOL. Please get help...D'Antoni runs the plays, Nash executes them. Learn the game...PeACe
The NBA isn't high school basketball. Nash doesn't look to the sidelines every time down the court. Even when D'Antoni is calling the plays, it takes a certain level of improvisation and awareness to make them work, which Nash excels at.
It has nothing to do with "looking to the sidelines"...It's D'Anotni's system which inflates stats, not Nash. Nash just executes the system. It's D'ANTONI'S "7 seconds or less" system, which, yes, is a disgrace to real basketball IMO...PeACe
Whether you think it's a disgrace or not is irrelevant. It works. Nash makes it work.
Exactly, and no other PG would be able to do it as well either.
Yea...It works so well that they will never make the finals with it. LOL@a jumpshooting playoff team. Back in the days, when basketball was at it's purest, that was considered blasphemous.
Alright, we've all figured it out NIK, you don't even believe what you are saying, you are just trying to be funny and piss us off. It's obvious most of your posts are meant to be shock posts, so keep doing your thing man, its all good.
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^^Yea, cuz what I'm saying is so "shocking" and makes absolutely no sense. LOL. It's hilarious what these morons call "replies". If you wanna respond, then contradict what I'm saying...It's obvious that you have nothing to say. You're on phillyboy's level.
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^^Yea, cuz what I'm saying is so "shocking" and makes absolutely no sense. LOL. It's hilarious what these morons call "replies". If you wanna respond, then contradict what I'm saying...It's obvious that you have nothing to say. You're on phillyboy's level.
LOL, remember when you said the Lakers were an elite team? That was funny as fuck.
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^^Yea, cuz what I'm saying is so "shocking" and makes absolutely no sense. LOL. It's hilarious what these morons call "replies". If you wanna respond, then contradict what I'm saying...It's obvious that you have nothing to say. You're on phillyboy's level.
LOL, remember when you said the Lakers were an elite team? That was funny as fuck.
They were at that point...They had beaten every good team in the league and were 13 games above .500 before the all-star break. The only thing hilarious is you posting in this section as if you have some sort of credibility. 99% of your posts in here are directed towards me, and 100% of them contain no facts.
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
I never said Nash was the best. I said Nash is sole player who makes D'Antoni's system work, which no other point guard could do in the NBA. Rating players is always subjective, as you should know seeing as how every time you say Kobe is the best, there is always someone there to tell you that you are wrong.
We'll see how the Suns stand after game 2 tonight.
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
I never said Nash was the best. I said Nash is sole player who makes D'Antoni's system work, which no other point guard could do in the NBA. Rating players is always subjective, as you should know seeing as how every time you say Kobe is the best, there is always someone there to tell you that you are wrong.
We'll see how the Suns stand after game 2 tonight.
I never heard anyone deny Kobe was the best in reality, not even his biggest haters. How do you know if no other point guard could run D'Antoni's system? I'm willing to bet that the Suns with Jason Kidd or Baron David or Tony Parker or any top point guard would fare just as well, if not better...Nobody can prove it, but I strongly believe that, and it's definitely not irrational, especially considering the point I've been making about Nash's major inflation in stats at the age of 31 when stepping into D'Antoni's system...PeACe
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
I never said Nash was the best. I said Nash is sole player who makes D'Antoni's system work, which no other point guard could do in the NBA. Rating players is always subjective, as you should know seeing as how every time you say Kobe is the best, there is always someone there to tell you that you are wrong.
We'll see how the Suns stand after game 2 tonight.
I never heard anyone deny Kobe was the best in reality, not even his biggest haters. How do you know if no other point guard could run D'Antoni's system? I'm willing to bet that the Suns with Jason Kidd or Baron David or Tony Parker or any top point guard would fare just as well, if not better...Nobody can prove it, but I strongly believe that, and it's definitely not irrational, especially considering the point I've been making about Nash's major inflation in stats at the age of 31 when stepping into D'Antoni's system...PeACe
But if the best player on the best team should win the MVP, then how is Kobe the best?
All jokes aside though, Nash has the awareness and experience to run an effective offense anywhere he goes. It's the system that D'Antoni has set up that lets Nash have free reign. Stats don't accumulate for no reason, they accumulate because players are making plays. I'm sure other point guards could run an effective offense with the system, but Nash does it to a T.
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
I never said Nash was the best. I said Nash is sole player who makes D'Antoni's system work, which no other point guard could do in the NBA. Rating players is always subjective, as you should know seeing as how every time you say Kobe is the best, there is always someone there to tell you that you are wrong.
We'll see how the Suns stand after game 2 tonight.
I never heard anyone deny Kobe was the best in reality, not even his biggest haters. How do you know if no other point guard could run D'Antoni's system? I'm willing to bet that the Suns with Jason Kidd or Baron David or Tony Parker or any top point guard would fare just as well, if not better...Nobody can prove it, but I strongly believe that, and it's definitely not irrational, especially considering the point I've been making about Nash's major inflation in stats at the age of 31 when stepping into D'Antoni's system...PeACe
But if the best player on the best team should win the MVP, then how is Kobe the best?
All jokes aside though, Nash has the awareness and experience to run an effective offense anywhere he goes. It's the system that D'Antoni has set up that lets Nash have free reign. Stats don't accumulate for no reason, they accumulate because players are making plays. I'm sure other point guards could run an effective offense with the system, but Nash does it to a T.
Yeah, you can't front on Nash. Nash's court vision is the best in the league, and he also happens to be a top 5 shooter in the NBA. You combine that with his ball handling skills, footwork, and ability to get to the hole and you have the best PG in the league hands down. I don't think even Jason Kidd can do what Nash does in Phoenix's offense. It works because of Nash's ability to shoot, his ability to use his footwork to get in the paint and his court vision.
If you use the system to discredit Nash, then you can use the triangle "system" to discredit Kobe, or even Shaq for that matter, who had by far his best season's under Phil's system. Magic had his most successful year's under Riley's showtime system. Jordan had his most success under Phil's system. Any competent coach will devise a system to maximize the talent of his star players. If you're going to knock Nash for that, you also have to knock the legends I just mentioned previously.
I think the one legitimate issue that people should have is the 2005-2006 MVP. Kobe should have gotten it period point blank that year and I don't think you can really argue against that. The 2004-2005 MVP was a tossup between Nash and Shaq, but Kobe hands down should have won it last season with Lebron as a runner up.
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^^Yea, cuz what I'm saying is so "shocking" and makes absolutely no sense. LOL. It's hilarious what these morons call "replies". If you wanna respond, then contradict what I'm saying...It's obvious that you have nothing to say. You're on phillyboy's level.
LOL, remember when you said the Lakers were an elite team? That was funny as fuck.
They were at that point...They had beaten every good team in the league and were 13 games above .500 before the all-star break. The only thing hilarious is you posting in this section as if you have some sort of credibility. 99% of your posts in here are directed towards me, and 100% of them contain no facts.
If you weren't such a retard I wouldn't have to clown on you so bad. You're forcing my hand here doggie.
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LMAO at NIK getting smashed on in every thread lol.
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
You talk about real arguments, but your argument is "I refuse to believe NAsh all of a sudden transformed into an MVP" blah blah blah. Doesn't sound like a valid argument to me. Nash had TWO great years BEFORE he came to Phoenix, but i guess that was all Nowitzki.
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LMAO at NIK getting smashed on in every thread lol.
NIK has been straight getting smashed on in every section of this forum since always man. HThe funny thing is he can't see how stupid his posts are. He talks about facts, but his posts are usually just opinion based.
FACTS for NIK: Nash is of the best free throw shooters (90%, one of the best ever), shoots a higher percentage from the field than any other guard (53% on 2's. 45% on 3's).........he also has a great assist to turnover ration; all this means he is the MOST EFFICENT player in the NBA, and isn't that what it is all about? Bball is a game of possessions, and Nash rarely fucks up. Or should i say, D"antoni rarel;y fucks up.
As for Parker being as good as Nash, check his assists, its not even close. Plus, Parker plays even less than Nash. Kidd is amazing, one of my favourites (i actually like him more than Nash), but dude CANNOT shoot.
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
I never said Nash was the best. I said Nash is sole player who makes D'Antoni's system work, which no other point guard could do in the NBA. Rating players is always subjective, as you should know seeing as how every time you say Kobe is the best, there is always someone there to tell you that you are wrong.
We'll see how the Suns stand after game 2 tonight.
I never heard anyone deny Kobe was the best in reality, not even his biggest haters. How do you know if no other point guard could run D'Antoni's system? I'm willing to bet that the Suns with Jason Kidd or Baron David or Tony Parker or any top point guard would fare just as well, if not better...Nobody can prove it, but I strongly believe that, and it's definitely not irrational, especially considering the point I've been making about Nash's major inflation in stats at the age of 31 when stepping into D'Antoni's system...PeACe
But if the best player on the best team should win the MVP, then how is Kobe the best?
All jokes aside though, Nash has the awareness and experience to run an effective offense anywhere he goes. It's the system that D'Antoni has set up that lets Nash have free reign. Stats don't accumulate for no reason, they accumulate because players are making plays. I'm sure other point guards could run an effective offense with the system, but Nash does it to a T.
I never said the MVP is the best player on the best team...And I don't think Nash is weak, I just think he is overrated and that any top notch point guard would be able to run Phoenix's stat-inflating system, "7 seconds or less", drawn up by D'Antoni. The people getting all touchy about that are RIDICULOUS.
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
I never said Nash was the best. I said Nash is sole player who makes D'Antoni's system work, which no other point guard could do in the NBA. Rating players is always subjective, as you should know seeing as how every time you say Kobe is the best, there is always someone there to tell you that you are wrong.
We'll see how the Suns stand after game 2 tonight.
I never heard anyone deny Kobe was the best in reality, not even his biggest haters. How do you know if no other point guard could run D'Antoni's system? I'm willing to bet that the Suns with Jason Kidd or Baron David or Tony Parker or any top point guard would fare just as well, if not better...Nobody can prove it, but I strongly believe that, and it's definitely not irrational, especially considering the point I've been making about Nash's major inflation in stats at the age of 31 when stepping into D'Antoni's system...PeACe
But if the best player on the best team should win the MVP, then how is Kobe the best?
All jokes aside though, Nash has the awareness and experience to run an effective offense anywhere he goes. It's the system that D'Antoni has set up that lets Nash have free reign. Stats don't accumulate for no reason, they accumulate because players are making plays. I'm sure other point guards could run an effective offense with the system, but Nash does it to a T.
Yeah, you can't front on Nash. Nash's court vision is the best in the league, and he also happens to be a top 5 shooter in the NBA. You combine that with his ball handling skills, footwork, and ability to get to the hole and you have the best PG in the league hands down. I don't think even Jason Kidd can do what Nash does in Phoenix's offense. It works because of Nash's ability to shoot, his ability to use his footwork to get in the paint and his court vision.
If you use the system to discredit Nash, then you can use the triangle "system" to discredit Kobe, or even Shaq for that matter, who had by far his best season's under Phil's system. Magic had his most successful year's under Riley's showtime system. Jordan had his most success under Phil's system. Any competent coach will devise a system to maximize the talent of his star players. If you're going to knock Nash for that, you also have to knock the legends I just mentioned previously.
I think the one legitimate issue that people should have is the 2005-2006 MVP. Kobe should have gotten it period point blank that year and I don't think you can really argue against that. The 2004-2005 MVP was a tossup between Nash and Shaq, but Kobe hands down should have won it last season with Lebron as a runner up.
The point is Nash is an excellent OFFENSIVE weapon. IMO, that style of basketball will NEVER be good enough to win a championship...PeACe
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^^Yea, cuz what I'm saying is so "shocking" and makes absolutely no sense. LOL. It's hilarious what these morons call "replies". If you wanna respond, then contradict what I'm saying...It's obvious that you have nothing to say. You're on phillyboy's level.
LOL, remember when you said the Lakers were an elite team? That was funny as fuck.
They were at that point...They had beaten every good team in the league and were 13 games above .500 before the all-star break. The only thing hilarious is you posting in this section as if you have some sort of credibility. 99% of your posts in here are directed towards me, and 100% of them contain no facts.
If you weren't such a retard I wouldn't have to clown on you so bad. You're forcing my hand here doggie.
You post too much without saying shit. You can't even say anything relavant to the topic, because you're fuckin clueless, son. But I don't expect any more than that from you in this section.
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
You talk about real arguments, but your argument is "I refuse to believe NAsh all of a sudden transformed into an MVP" blah blah blah. Doesn't sound like a valid argument to me. Nash had TWO great years BEFORE he came to Phoenix, but i guess that was all Nowitzki.
Was Nash anywhere close to an MVP caliber player before D'Antoni's system? Think about it, and get back to me.
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LMAO at NIK getting smashed on in every thread lol.
NIK has been straight getting smashed on in every section of this forum since always man. HThe funny thing is he can't see how stupid his posts are. He talks about facts, but his posts are usually just opinion based.
FACTS for NIK: Nash is of the best free throw shooters (90%, one of the best ever), shoots a higher percentage from the field than any other guard (53% on 2's. 45% on 3's).........he also has a great assist to turnover ration; all this means he is the MOST EFFICENT player in the NBA, and isn't that what it is all about? Bball is a game of possessions, and Nash rarely fucks up. Or should i say, D"antoni rarel;y fucks up.
As for Parker being as good as Nash, check his assists, its not even close. Plus, Parker plays even less than Nash. Kidd is amazing, one of my favourites (i actually like him more than Nash), but dude CANNOT shoot.
Yea, it's just too bad you forgot the most important part of the game...Defense, muthafucka. Nash has NONE. If I'm always getting smashed on, and I'm smashing on you, that don't say to much about your arguments, now do it?
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LMAO at NIK getting smashed on in every thread lol.
NIK has been straight getting smashed on in every section of this forum since always man. HThe funny thing is he can't see how stupid his posts are. He talks about facts, but his posts are usually just opinion based.
FACTS for NIK: Nash is of the best free throw shooters (90%, one of the best ever), shoots a higher percentage from the field than any other guard (53% on 2's. 45% on 3's).........he also has a great assist to turnover ration; all this means he is the MOST EFFICENT player in the NBA, and isn't that what it is all about? Bball is a game of possessions, and Nash rarely fucks up. Or should i say, D"antoni rarel;y fucks up.
As for Parker being as good as Nash, check his assists, its not even close. Plus, Parker plays even less than Nash. Kidd is amazing, one of my favourites (i actually like him more than Nash), but dude CANNOT shoot.
Yea, it's just too bad you forgot the most important part of the game...Defense, muthafucka. Nash has NONE. If I'm always getting smashed on, and I'm smashing on you, that don't say to much about your arguments, now do it?
"now do it?" lol
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Another one of those hicks from the farms, huh?
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^^Yea, cuz what I'm saying is so "shocking" and makes absolutely no sense. LOL. It's hilarious what these morons call "replies". If you wanna respond, then contradict what I'm saying...It's obvious that you have nothing to say. You're on phillyboy's level.
LOL, remember when you said the Lakers were an elite team? That was funny as fuck.
They were at that point...They had beaten every good team in the league and were 13 games above .500 before the all-star break. The only thing hilarious is you posting in this section as if you have some sort of credibility. 99% of your posts in here are directed towards me, and 100% of them contain no facts.
If you weren't such a retard I wouldn't have to clown on you so bad. You're forcing my hand here doggie.
You post too much without saying shit. You can't even say anything relavant to the topic, because you're fuckin clueless, son. But I don't expect any more than that from you in this section.
nuh uh, you post too much without saying shit :nahnah2:
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
I never said Nash was the best. I said Nash is sole player who makes D'Antoni's system work, which no other point guard could do in the NBA. Rating players is always subjective, as you should know seeing as how every time you say Kobe is the best, there is always someone there to tell you that you are wrong.
We'll see how the Suns stand after game 2 tonight.
I never heard anyone deny Kobe was the best in reality, not even his biggest haters. How do you know if no other point guard could run D'Antoni's system? I'm willing to bet that the Suns with Jason Kidd or Baron David or Tony Parker or any top point guard would fare just as well, if not better...Nobody can prove it, but I strongly believe that, and it's definitely not irrational, especially considering the point I've been making about Nash's major inflation in stats at the age of 31 when stepping into D'Antoni's system...PeACe
But if the best player on the best team should win the MVP, then how is Kobe the best?
All jokes aside though, Nash has the awareness and experience to run an effective offense anywhere he goes. It's the system that D'Antoni has set up that lets Nash have free reign. Stats don't accumulate for no reason, they accumulate because players are making plays. I'm sure other point guards could run an effective offense with the system, but Nash does it to a T.
Yeah, you can't front on Nash. Nash's court vision is the best in the league, and he also happens to be a top 5 shooter in the NBA. You combine that with his ball handling skills, footwork, and ability to get to the hole and you have the best PG in the league hands down. I don't think even Jason Kidd can do what Nash does in Phoenix's offense. It works because of Nash's ability to shoot, his ability to use his footwork to get in the paint and his court vision.
If you use the system to discredit Nash, then you can use the triangle "system" to discredit Kobe, or even Shaq for that matter, who had by far his best season's under Phil's system. Magic had his most successful year's under Riley's showtime system. Jordan had his most success under Phil's system. Any competent coach will devise a system to maximize the talent of his star players. If you're going to knock Nash for that, you also have to knock the legends I just mentioned previously.
I think the one legitimate issue that people should have is the 2005-2006 MVP. Kobe should have gotten it period point blank that year and I don't think you can really argue against that. The 2004-2005 MVP was a tossup between Nash and Shaq, but Kobe hands down should have won it last season with Lebron as a runner up.
The point is Nash is an excellent OFFENSIVE weapon. IMO, that style of basketball will NEVER be good enough to win a championship...PeACe
Magic was not an elite defender and we won 5 rings with him. Tony Parker is not an elite defender yet Spurs have won 2 rings with him at PG. What those teams had is solid interior defenders. Solid interior defense is more crucial to winning championships. Even with the Bulls and Jordan and Pippen's solid perimeter d, if it wasn't for Rodman and Grant's excellent interior defense, those teams would not have won either. If Stoudemire ever becomes an elite defender, Phoenix would be scary.
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
I never said Nash was the best. I said Nash is sole player who makes D'Antoni's system work, which no other point guard could do in the NBA. Rating players is always subjective, as you should know seeing as how every time you say Kobe is the best, there is always someone there to tell you that you are wrong.
We'll see how the Suns stand after game 2 tonight.
I never heard anyone deny Kobe was the best in reality, not even his biggest haters. How do you know if no other point guard could run D'Antoni's system? I'm willing to bet that the Suns with Jason Kidd or Baron David or Tony Parker or any top point guard would fare just as well, if not better...Nobody can prove it, but I strongly believe that, and it's definitely not irrational, especially considering the point I've been making about Nash's major inflation in stats at the age of 31 when stepping into D'Antoni's system...PeACe
But if the best player on the best team should win the MVP, then how is Kobe the best?
All jokes aside though, Nash has the awareness and experience to run an effective offense anywhere he goes. It's the system that D'Antoni has set up that lets Nash have free reign. Stats don't accumulate for no reason, they accumulate because players are making plays. I'm sure other point guards could run an effective offense with the system, but Nash does it to a T.
Yeah, you can't front on Nash. Nash's court vision is the best in the league, and he also happens to be a top 5 shooter in the NBA. You combine that with his ball handling skills, footwork, and ability to get to the hole and you have the best PG in the league hands down. I don't think even Jason Kidd can do what Nash does in Phoenix's offense. It works because of Nash's ability to shoot, his ability to use his footwork to get in the paint and his court vision.
If you use the system to discredit Nash, then you can use the triangle "system" to discredit Kobe, or even Shaq for that matter, who had by far his best season's under Phil's system. Magic had his most successful year's under Riley's showtime system. Jordan had his most success under Phil's system. Any competent coach will devise a system to maximize the talent of his star players. If you're going to knock Nash for that, you also have to knock the legends I just mentioned previously.
I think the one legitimate issue that people should have is the 2005-2006 MVP. Kobe should have gotten it period point blank that year and I don't think you can really argue against that. The 2004-2005 MVP was a tossup between Nash and Shaq, but Kobe hands down should have won it last season with Lebron as a runner up.
The point is Nash is an excellent OFFENSIVE weapon. IMO, that style of basketball will NEVER be good enough to win a championship...PeACe
Magic was not an elite defender and we won 5 rings with him. Tony Parker is not an elite defender yet Spurs have won 2 rings with him at PG. What those teams had is solid interior defenders. Solid interior defense is more crucial to winning championships. Even with the Bulls and Jordan and Pippen's solid perimeter d, if it wasn't for Rodman and Grant's excellent interior defense, those teams would not have won either. If Stoudemire ever becomes an elite defender, Phoenix would be scary.
LMAO@Stoudemire becoming an elite defender...Dude gets overpowered on the box almost every time, if he doesn't pick up the occasional block, he's fucked. Magic wasn't an elite defender, but at least he could play good defense. Nash isn't even capable of doing that on his best day. Mark my words, without some major shake-ups, Phoenix will NEVER win a title...PeACe
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Why don't you guys get at me when you have some actual arguments? And "NASH IS THE BEST" is NOT an argument. Until then, I will keep letting everyone know that Nash is the most overrated player of all time...1 rebound would have bounced the "MVP" out of the 1st round last season. And he WILL be bounced in the 2nd round once again...where will the Suns be after that? A team that can't do shit in the playoffs. The Suns are good, but are they good enough? If the MVP is the BEST player on the BEST team, why the hell would it be Nash? Utah Jazz > Phoenix Suns. Someone, PLEASE make some points and argue what I'm saying with LOGIC...
I never said Nash was the best. I said Nash is sole player who makes D'Antoni's system work, which no other point guard could do in the NBA. Rating players is always subjective, as you should know seeing as how every time you say Kobe is the best, there is always someone there to tell you that you are wrong.
We'll see how the Suns stand after game 2 tonight.
I never heard anyone deny Kobe was the best in reality, not even his biggest haters. How do you know if no other point guard could run D'Antoni's system? I'm willing to bet that the Suns with Jason Kidd or Baron David or Tony Parker or any top point guard would fare just as well, if not better...Nobody can prove it, but I strongly believe that, and it's definitely not irrational, especially considering the point I've been making about Nash's major inflation in stats at the age of 31 when stepping into D'Antoni's system...PeACe
But if the best player on the best team should win the MVP, then how is Kobe the best?
All jokes aside though, Nash has the awareness and experience to run an effective offense anywhere he goes. It's the system that D'Antoni has set up that lets Nash have free reign. Stats don't accumulate for no reason, they accumulate because players are making plays. I'm sure other point guards could run an effective offense with the system, but Nash does it to a T.
Yeah, you can't front on Nash. Nash's court vision is the best in the league, and he also happens to be a top 5 shooter in the NBA. You combine that with his ball handling skills, footwork, and ability to get to the hole and you have the best PG in the league hands down. I don't think even Jason Kidd can do what Nash does in Phoenix's offense. It works because of Nash's ability to shoot, his ability to use his footwork to get in the paint and his court vision.
If you use the system to discredit Nash, then you can use the triangle "system" to discredit Kobe, or even Shaq for that matter, who had by far his best season's under Phil's system. Magic had his most successful year's under Riley's showtime system. Jordan had his most success under Phil's system. Any competent coach will devise a system to maximize the talent of his star players. If you're going to knock Nash for that, you also have to knock the legends I just mentioned previously.
I think the one legitimate issue that people should have is the 2005-2006 MVP. Kobe should have gotten it period point blank that year and I don't think you can really argue against that. The 2004-2005 MVP was a tossup between Nash and Shaq, but Kobe hands down should have won it last season with Lebron as a runner up.
The point is Nash is an excellent OFFENSIVE weapon. IMO, that style of basketball will NEVER be good enough to win a championship...PeACe
Magic was not an elite defender and we won 5 rings with him. Tony Parker is not an elite defender yet Spurs have won 2 rings with him at PG. What those teams had is solid interior defenders. Solid interior defense is more crucial to winning championships. Even with the Bulls and Jordan and Pippen's solid perimeter d, if it wasn't for Rodman and Grant's excellent interior defense, those teams would not have won either. If Stoudemire ever becomes an elite defender, Phoenix would be scary.
LMAO@Stoudemire becoming an elite defender...Dude gets overpowered on the box almost every time, if he doesn't pick up the occasional block, he's fucked. Magic wasn't an elite defender, but atst he could play good defense. Nash isn't even capable of doing that on his best day. Mark my words, without some major shake-ups, Phoenix will NEVER win a title...PeACe
blah blah blah....
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^^This is how his brain reads it. :laugh:
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^^This is how his brain reads it. :laugh:
ROFL what ever helps you sleep at night kiddo.
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Get off the floor, you dirty hick.
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Get off the floor, you dirty hick.
? Hick? There's not many farms around here so what do you mean?