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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: nateandmiles on May 06, 2007, 03:40:48 PM
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If some corp can pump money into crooked i's project this motherfucker will go 10 times platnium ..lets me honest he got the skills but offcourse his shit wont shine as hard because he dont ave that interscope $$$ ..which is sad but shit...crooked i is the best in the west...u got artists out there who get solid budgets and still come out dudu ....someone give crooked i some millions lets get the left coast cracking!!
Now chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch 8)
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Lol, considering sales nowdays i doubt he will go gold, dude has lost way too many hype, only the die hard fans checking for the weekly freestyles will cop it probably...
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If he gets a good $$ backing/budget hell sell ....crook is the trufff ....from the grassroots he is felt ...all he needs is to drop one commericial single with the right budget he is good ...oh yeah that "straight bosses" shit would have made for a good single..
Now chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch 8)
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crooked can make hits, theres no doubt about that....whether he got the look and charisma of a hiphop giant lable is another thing......face it, skills aint everything no mo
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if Rich Boy can't even go gold with Throw Some D's then Crooked I won't either.
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crooked i is tight but he will not sell.
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exactly like i say it aint bout skills..he needs a GOOD asssss budget..and who the fuck is rich boy??? its like sayin u xpect D4L to sell ..no offence to rich boy ..im sure if he said that beat was done by timberland or pharel or dr dre or osme other famous cat he would have sold like shit...dont forget he was on interscope and the beat was done by a non name producer.....Crooks got a tuff history and he been fuckin with everyone..with the right budget he is good skills or no skills!!
Now chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch 8)
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Fuck this thread!
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i dont know.... 6 years ago maybe he would have blew up
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I know that he is going to worth the risk for whatever major label deciding to invest on him
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i don't know why ppl don't wanna show this dude love, we all know he got skills, and he can go more than platnium. i wish i got the $$$ i will put it on this dude, cuz i know is going to sell.
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crooked i probably wont sell much, most people arent. but im some his album will be bangin and thats all i care about man
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crooked i probably wont sell much, most people arent. but im some his album will be bangin and thats all i care about man
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How can you guys expect anyone to sell with attitudes like that?
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If some corp can pump money into crooked i's project this motherfucker will go 10 times platnium ..lets me honest he got the skills but offcourse his shit wont shine as hard because he dont ave that interscope $$$ ..which is sad but shit...crooked i is the best in the west...u got artists out there who get solid budgets and still come out dudu ....someone give crooked i some millions lets get the left coast cracking!!
Now chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch 8)
where is the true story in that statement ?
Seriously though i can see what your saying but rappers aint selling at the moment. Especially an artist like crooked i who doesnet have a huge fan base and has little buzz outside the westcoast. All i hope is that when it does get released its quality.
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U GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF HATERS
ALL IT TAKES IS SOME MAJOR RECORD LABEL TO PICK HIM UP AND FOR HIM TO WRITE SOME GOOD ASS SONGS, THEY COULD BE RADIO FRIENDLY , COMMERCIAL AND MAINSTREAM AT THIS POINT CROOKED I'S GOT SO MUCH RESPECT ITS TIME FOR HIM TO GET HIS JUST LIKE
CASSIDY, JUST LIKE FABOLOUS, JUST LIKE LIL WAYNE ALL SPITTERS BUT AT SOME POINT U HAVE TO WRITE SHIT FOR THE RADIO
NOBODY EXPECTED THE SHOULDER LEAN GUY, YOUNG JOC/DRO, WALK IT OUT.... TO TOP THE CHARTS???
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if crooked i is such a damn good multi platinum capable artist, why hasnt he been signed to a major?
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U GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF HATERS
ALL IT TAKES IS SOME MAJOR RECORD LABEL TO PICK HIM UP AND FOR HIM TO WRITE SOME GOOD ASS SONGS, THEY COULD BE RADIO FRIENDLY , COMMERCIAL AND MAINSTREAM AT THIS POINT CROOKED I'S GOT SO MUCH RESPECT ITS TIME FOR HIM TO GET HIS JUST LIKE
CASSIDY, JUST LIKE FABOLOUS, JUST LIKE LIL WAYNE ALL SPITTERS BUT AT SOME POINT U HAVE TO WRITE SHIT FOR THE RADIO
NOBODY EXPECTED THE SHOULDER LEAN GUY, YOUNG JOC/DRO, WALK IT OUT.... TO TOP THE CHARTS???
And those singles did well but the albums itself only did around 200k-300k. They made they money off ringtones, real talk and digital downloads from I Tunes and shit like that. Gold is the new platinum in this market.
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Fuck this thread!
Now Chuuuuuuuuuch
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WTF??? What kind of rap fan wants crooked I to sign w/ G unit? what are you, a 12 year old girl? This is disgusting...its people like you that have helped ruin rap. Fuck selling records for the sake of selling whats popular...make good music.
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I really dont care about sales....... i only care about the quality of music
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i don't know why ppl don't wanna show this dude love, we all know he got skills, and he can go more than platnium. i wish i got the $$$ i will put it on this dude, cuz i know is going to sell.
Can you post about something besides your infatuation with Crooked and the 20 billion pictures you post of him?
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you missing the point here ...krs is a good rapper but he aint on a major.tony yayo is on gunit and still didnt sell???? u get my drift?? majors just dont pick you because you got skils?? now at the same time if a major picks you i.e yayo u are still not guranteed to sell?? now on the other hand the money invested in fiddy cent is way up there ..fiddy still sells or ??point is you can be on a major but if they dontpush you ..you aint sellin shit...vice versa....moral of story is crooked i needs to be treated in the same aspect as a 50 cent album ..i.e the push from the record label .....crook needs the right push ..music will be quality but he should be held on a higher pedestal ...he is the trufffff
Now chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch 8)
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thats a load of garbage ...if fiddy drops today he will sell like akon , jay z sold like hot cakes ...eminem drops today he will sell like crack yayo ..jim jones sold and he was on a minor those numbers he did were pretty damn good .at the same time u had cats on gunit who aint sold shit..look at cats like redman are on defjam they aint sellin squart why????jay z sold like shit causes they pushed that joint to the max and beyond ..crook needs that kind of attention ....he is that calibre of an artist....someone needs to tell me who is buying akons albums if sales are down ?? and akon is just a hook nicca who bites....he finesed nate doggs style and run with it....
Now chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch 8)
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Crooked I with 50 Cent and/or Dre's assistance would be great..
Crooked I is a great lyricist but he isn't a great song writer. And the reason why some of your favorite rappers aren't selling these days is because they aren't writing good songs.
50 is a great song writer.. Jay-Z is a great song writer. So if Crooked gets assistance from a song writter than he can do well.
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Crooked I with 50 Cent and/or Dre's assistance would be great..
Crooked I is a great lyricist but he isn't a great song writer. And the reason why some of your favorite rappers aren't selling these days is because they aren't writing good songs.
50 is a great song writer.. Jay-Z is a great song writer. So if Crooked gets assistance from a song writter than he can do well.
And that is why he probably never will drop an album. :)
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Crooked I with 50 Cent and/or Dre's assistance would be great..
Crooked I is a great lyricist but he isn't a great song writer. And the reason why some of your favorite rappers aren't selling these days is because they aren't writing good songs.
50 is a great song writer.. Jay-Z is a great song writer. So if Crooked gets assistance from a song writter than he can do well.
Ok and you have SPider in your sig :laugh: so basically your opinion of good rappers or song writers means nothing.
And that is why he probably never will drop an album. :)
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Crooked I with 50 Cent and/or Dre's assistance would be great..
Crooked I is a great lyricist but he isn't a great song writer. And the reason why some of your favorite rappers aren't selling these days is because they aren't writing good songs.
50 is a great song writer.. Jay-Z is a great song writer. So if Crooked gets assistance from a song writter than he can do well.
Ok and you have SPider in your sig :laugh: so basically your opinion of good rappers or song writers means nothing.
And that is why he probably never will drop an album. :)
actually, it should make him an expert in knowing.. remember the old saying "it takes one to know one".. :-P
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^^^ hmmm ok
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for sure....if you would invest 10 million dollars in crook im sure he would sell 200 or 300k. 8)..(not mentioning the possibility that the album still wouldnt come out because of legal problems with suge knight or other people and stupid treacherous bosses who have no history of releasing anything and all the other million things in the music industry that can fuck up your business)
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crooked i not a good song writer???
i heared him talk about money clothes and hoes alot better then alot of these artists.......
fuck song writing its all about hooks ??? if crooked i can get akon/t pain and a storch/timbo/dr dre beat u dont think he would blow??
"SHAKE THAT LAFFY TAFFY THAT LAFFY TAFFY?" lemme see u bounce like a limp and let your shoulddderrrrrr leannnnnnnn
meeet me at the malllllllllllll its going downnnnnnnnnnnnn
all about hooks .. somebody mentioned krs one hes good but doesnt write radio friendly songs... if crooked even comes out with a Laffy taffy song he's gathered enough respect in my book
he burned 50 on his own song im heading straight to the bank, i cant even listen to that 50 track no more after croooked killed it
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If some corp can pump money into crooked i's project this motherfucker will go 10 times platnium ..lets me honest he got the skills but offcourse his shit wont shine as hard because he dont ave that interscope $$$ ..which is sad but shit...crooked i is the best in the west...u got artists out there who get solid budgets and still come out dudu ....someone give crooked i some millions lets get the left coast cracking!!
Now chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch 8)
I think Jay's Kingdom come album is good example that even if a record label puts several dollars behind a project, itll still sell BENEATH its expectations.
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You can't compare 50 to Crooked I........50 got his buzz with how to rob, then he got shot, and then had the paublicity with the beef with Ja....50 got the charisma that the mainstream like...Plus NY have a huge mixtape scene.
Crooked I has skills....he also can make songs without his punchline reputation/killa flow. Theres no questioning that. But I do believe Crooked I had his buzz 5 years ago, and now hes trying to get it back with his hip hop weekly and what not, but will not be enough to do major figures.....Maybe independantly if he plays his cards right might do well, and give Crooked I some real $$$, but I think he would be lucky to push more 100,000 on a major....
I mean I hope he does prove me wrong, but realistically I don't think he will....I mean been in the game for over 10 years and has dropped little more than mixtapes and weekly freestyle on top of about 100 interviews.....Thats not getting you nowhere, and Definately not a BOSS/COB or whatever he wants to call himself.
But like I said I hope he proves me wrong, but I see Detox coming out before a Crooked I album (You know Detox been in the making for like 5+ years and is suppose to come out definately this year just like Crooked I).
Suge killed his buzz, so if I were him I would stick Independant, 'cause his name is known enough in the underground and industry heads for him to do well Indy.
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Crooked I won't never release an album because he makes bad moves at bad times.. lol at not droppin an album coz he's not a good song writer.. there are tons of rappers neither lyricist or songwriter , who release an album
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Crooked I with 50 Cent and/or Dre's assistance would be great..
Crooked I is a great lyricist but he isn't a great song writer. And the reason why some of your favorite rappers aren't selling these days is because they aren't writing good songs.
50 is a great song writer.. Jay-Z is a great song writer. So if Crooked gets assistance from a song writter than he can do well.
Ok and you have SPider in your sig :laugh: so basically your opinion of good rappers or song writers means nothing.
And that is why he probably never will drop an album. :)
1. You mad at me cuz of the DipCC thing.
2. Just cause i enjoy a mixtape from someone doesn't mean i can't say anything about some other rapper.
3. You can't quote.
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Anyone could go platinum off of an Interscope budget. The real question is, is Crooked I worthy of an Interscope type budget? Personally, I think he is, but in all realism, he won't get it. Crook is better off sticking to the underground formula until he hits mainstrem success like everyone else. Keep hoping and wishing that he'll get a big budget, but in the end, that is as far as he'll get until he releases an album. Regardless of how his album does, if Crook deserves a lucrative album deal, he'll get it. Right now is his time to show and prove. No amount of fandom backing a big budget will ever amount to anything.
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Crooked I with 50 Cent and/or Dre's assistance would be great..
Crooked I is a great lyricist but he isn't a great song writer. And the reason why some of your favorite rappers aren't selling these days is because they aren't writing good songs.
50 is a great song writer.. Jay-Z is a great song writer. So if Crooked gets assistance from a song writter than he can do well.
LMAO.. Check out My Life, check out Auphelia Payne. HE ISNT A GOOD SONGWRITER?!?! Wtf are u smoking....
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^ These are not great songs, good concepts, good lyrics, but it takes more then just that for a good mainstream record, which is what the thread is about. Take 50 Cent's In Da Club lyrics, not really a deep song, we can all agree on that, but it does what it need it do, entertain through simple, appealing lyrics.
I don't see Crooked I make such lyrics.
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I think Crooked I is on lock...however, he past his bedtime.