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Eve
Don’t Need Ya
Words: Leah Rose Images: Marc Baptiste
Damn. Eve is drop-dead gorgeous. Standing in the lights in front of photographer Marc Baptiste’s camera, wearing a deep-cut gold lamé top (effectively more like a fancy pair of suspenders than a blouse), the former first lady of the Ruff Ryders rap dynasty looks more like a supermodel than a supa MC. Glistening with a sheen of olive oil sprayed on by J.J., her trusty makeup artist of seven years, the woman who used to be known as a “pit bull in a skirt” stares straight into the camera’s lens and gives it a million dollar snarl.
“Set it off, girl!” Baptiste shouts, trying to loosen her up. Eve twists her body this way and that as the camera’s shutter clicks. The images pop up instantly on a high-powered digital monitor mounted high enough for the roomful of hired staff to assess each passing shot. A stylist is summoned to make some adjustments. When he steps away, the plunging garment is in an even more revealing position.
“Come on, girl!” Baptiste urges her on. Glancing at the screen, though, Eve isn’t happy with what she sees. She kindly asks him to erase the last five shots—the ones that captured not only her stunning profile but a healthy portion of bare breast as well—and readjusts herself.
“I don’t mind being sexy,” says Eve the following day, sitting at the bar at NYC’s posh Ritz-Carlton Hotel. (The famous paw-print tattoos, peeking just above the scoop neck of her black sweater, attest.) “There is a fine line between ‘hot’ and ‘hooch,’ and I’m not gonna do it… I never wanted to be the girls I saw when I was coming up. I never felt like I should do what other people already know. What’s the point of paying attention to me if I’m doing exactly what you see every day?”
You can’t fault her. But while she has always set herself apart from her female MC peers, the tough-spitting West Philadelphia chick has gotten herself so far away from her roots these past couple years she seems in danger of falling out of touch completely. After her last album, 2002’s Eve-olution, Eve decided to leave the East Coast for the sunny skies of L.A. Already a multiplatinum-selling rap star and a fashion icon, she parlayed her fame into an acting career. She landed her own UPN sitcom, Eve, and roles in a half-dozen films, including two installments of Ice Cube’s hugely successful Barbershop franchise, XXX with Vin Diesel and the critically acclaimed The Woodsman, in which she played a nosey co-worker of a child molester (Kevin Bacon) struggling to re-enter society after getting out of prison. While she concentrated the majority of her energy on screen time, Eve managed to pop up here and there on the radio, guest appearing on songs with Gwen Stefani, Mary J. Blige and Amerie.
“I chose another life for a second,” she says. “But I was never like, ‘I’m stopping music forever.’ Thank God for those features, ’cause it kept my face out there.”
Even so, her time away from hip-hop’s main stage could prove detrimental. This August, Eve is finally set to release Here I Am, her long-awaited collaboration with Dr. Dre. (Eve appeared on XXL’s cover in May 2004 to mark her return to Dre’s camp as a part of his new Aftermath Records roster.) But with record sales plummeting across the industry and hip-hop sounding like one big posthumous catalogue, it’s a dangerous time for anyone to be dropping any kind of project, no matter who’s behind it.
“I’m definitely rolling the dice with this album, because it’s different,” Eve says. “Dre hated it. He was like, ‘We need to throw some mud on it.’ He played me distinctive Dre joints, and I turned them down, because I was like, ‘I’m not 50. I’m not Game.’ That’s his shit, and I love it, but it’s not something that I wanted to do.”
Dre is credited as a co–executive producer on the album, but it will feature only one of his tracks. In the end, Eve went with beats from Swizz Beatz, Timbaland and Pharrell and a sound more closely identified with Top 40 radio than rap. Encompassing key elements of rap and pop music, along with a hearty infusion of reggae, to give it a summery, dancehall vibe, Here I Am belongs to the 21st century subgenre that might as well be called “urban crossover.”
“I feel like it’s not such a shock that this album is going that way,” says Eve. “Because the last time people saw me was with Gwen… People have seen me on TV now. I’m not gonna be like, ‘I’m in the street!’ ’Cause that’s not real… I still want my audience that loved me and supported me from the hood to come with me. And I think that they can. With Justin Timberlake playing on urban radio right now with T.I., five years ago, that was not happening. It took two White boys to bring R&B back: Justin and Robin Thicke. That’s crazy!”
Growing up in the same apartment with her mother, uncles, grandma and grandpa, Eve Jihan Jeffers had an independent streak from a young age. “Since I was little,” she says, “I never wanted to ask my mother for money.” She started rapping as a young teen, and, by the time she graduated high school in 1996, she knew she wanted to make a career of it. Figuring it would be the quickest way to get out of her mother’s house and into her own apartment, she took a job at a New York strip club.
Her heart wasn’t in it, though. And she wasn’t very good. “I was the lazy dancer,” she says. “I wasn’t like the other girls that danced. I was really like the girl that sat down. I used to tell dudes, ‘Yo, you know I rhyme.’ That was my whole shit. I really don’t know how I survived it. I used to watch those girls and be like, ‘This ain’t for me.’”
In 1996, Eve auditioned for a member of Dr. Dre’s camp, who was so impressed that, two days later, she was out in L.A. signing with Aftermath. “At 18, I was Eve of Destruction,” she says, noting her first rap moniker and an attitude that matched. “I was a young girl from Philly who was like, ‘Whatever, let’s make it happen. I need an album out! Come on, Dre!’” She rolls her eyes. “I was so rowdy.”
——- Read the rest of our Eve feature in XXL’s June 2007 issue (#92)
Source-xxlmag
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good thing shes of the math because she didnt really fit in their although she was sick on let me blow ya mind and rich girl she wasnt a good fit in dres camp
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Yeah Aftermath had to many artists good G.A.G.E. & Eve left still unable to drop albums though Stat's been waiting 3 years+, Raekwon & Bishop probably won't drop this year and DETOX has appearntly dropping in January now. G.A.G.E. & Eve done the right thing by not waiting on the shelve for years.
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“Dre hated it. He was like, ‘We need to throw some mud on it.’
Well Done Dre.
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“Dre hated it. He was like, ‘We need to throw some mud on it.’
Well Done Dre.
lol
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If you want recreative control why would you sign to Aftermath?
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^^^^
no shit...stupid bitch....how the fuck do u get signed to aftermath and not even wanna go the direction dre wants u to go, most rappers probally wish they could get signed to the math and this dumb broad gets that chance and fucks it up. im happy she aint on the label no more..will get bishops and raekwons album sooner now 8)
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I don't even know why she was signed there in the first place
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Damn Eve is so stupid, didnt dre produce eves biggest hit so far the one with gwen stefani ?
Its pretty clear eve is basically making an album for the radio and not actually a cohesive album, lets get pharell, swizz and timberland. that will look good to some adolescent kid when they read it.
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i think its pretty obvious if they had heat, it would have been out by now....dre aint produced a banger since game and his shit on bustas LP was not fly enough for a eve joint....dre would not have given her nuttin dope right now the way he producing....let dre concentrate on detox! hopefully he comes fully correct on that....someone on here goes melman is back so that may mean some added funk to his shit, or less work finding shit
pz
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^^ Dre has actually been giving out Detox leftovers or rejects ever since GRODT dropped, I remember how he said that he gave 50 6 Detox leftovers. All his production from Massacre, Doc, Jay, Snoop, Buck, Nas, Encore.... has been nothing but leftovers or old sounds mixed differently. And who can blame him, theyre still better than most of the production out right now.
The cd he experimented the most since GRODT is by far The Big Bang, I cant believe how people cant see that. And by people I mean you Lyrical G :P
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^^ Dre has actually been giving out Detox leftovers or rejects ever since GRODT dropped, I remember how he said that he gave 50 6 Detox leftovers. All his production from Massacre, Doc, Jay, Snoop, Buck, Nas, Encore.... has been nothing but leftovers or old sounds mixed differently. And who can blame him, theyre still better than most of the production out right now.
The cd he experimented the most since GRODT is by far The Big Bang, I cant believe how people cant see that. And by people I mean you Lyrical G :P
i thought dre's production on the big bang was excellent, especially legend of the fall off's.
The beat must have been for detox when there were rumours that detox was going to be done as a long story.
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From reading that article, i think Eve wasn't happy with the image that Dre wanted her to play... It sounds like Dre wanted her to play some gangsta-hoe role, and Eve wants to stay pop-friendly..
Timbaland, Swizz Beats and Pharrell's production have been great this year. So it's not necessarily a bad thing to go those producers for help for an album..
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Maybe it's just me, but I've got mad respect for Eve for doing that. If she thinks her music was good by itself - why let Dre water it down into some prototype bullshit?
I'm pretty curious about her album! Does anyone know when it's dropping?
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^^ Dre has actually been giving out Detox leftovers or rejects ever since GRODT dropped, I remember how he said that he gave 50 6 Detox leftovers. All his production from Massacre, Doc, Jay, Snoop, Buck, Nas, Encore.... has been nothing but leftovers or old sounds mixed differently. And who can blame him, theyre still better than most of the production out right now.
The cd he experimented the most since GRODT is by far The Big Bang, I cant believe how people cant see that. And by people I mean you Lyrical G :P
first of all if you really believe EVERY beat he produced for massacre, doc, jay, snoop, buck, nas and encore are all detox left overs your an idiot...second of all i do know that he gave some of his 'detox session+leftover' beats to alot of those people you mentioned....for example....grodt got beats which were meant to for detox, game got beats which were meant for detox, snoop got a beat which was meant for detox.....buck got left over beats period....encore got a beat which was meant for detox....BUT if you think thats all these niggaz got you wrong....dre was in the studio creating music for these niggaz and beats which would match there music....you think how we do and first track from documentary for for detox? its obvious how we do had 50/game written all over it....the westside story joint was originally made for game to be put on a OST and then changed cuz they felt it was too good....encore with eminem....they worked 2 weeks flat on making beats soley intended for that album....not every beat is made with detox in mind....
Next...what are you talking about making assumptions like i cannot see shit?.........I agree that the stuff dre did on big bang was the most experimental shit dre has done since grodt....when did i say something else?....what you talking about?...
NOW most experimental does not automatically mean best....the beats dre gave game were much better....ofcourse you fail to see this since you have been dissmissing most things game for a long time now....BUT the beats on documentary were greater than the beats of big bang.....BUT the beats of big bang were more experimental...in some cases....I agree.......
Now about what i said about eve's shit....when i said they would not suit her because they were not fly enough...i mean they did not have such a 'hollywood' sound....eve needs more feminine shit or shit which is crisper....big bang beats were dark....which is dope but it aint eve beats....
I already said, big bang is a nice CD but is nothing amazing....
i do not know where you make such accusations against me, but i felt the need to back my case just incase you start some hate parade against a real nigga LyRiCaL_G :laugh:
pz
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Maybe it's just me, but I've got mad respect for Eve for doing that. If she thinks her music was good by itself - why let Dre water it down into some prototype bullshit?
I'm pretty curious about her album! Does anyone know when it's dropping?
yeah truth....like other dude said aswell, she was getting created an image by dre she felt she no longer was....so why play it....it aint gonna help her sales in todays world so be real anyway.......
lol@dre wanted everything to be gangsta and 'mudded' whether it be eve or rakim!
lol
still dre my fav producer!haha
pz!
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^^ Dre has actually been giving out Detox leftovers or rejects ever since GRODT dropped, I remember how he said that he gave 50 6 Detox leftovers. All his production from Massacre, Doc, Jay, Snoop, Buck, Nas, Encore.... has been nothing but leftovers or old sounds mixed differently. And who can blame him, theyre still better than most of the production out right now.
The cd he experimented the most since GRODT is by far The Big Bang, I cant believe how people cant see that. And by people I mean you Lyrical G :P
first of all if you really believe EVERY beat he produced for massacre, doc, jay, snoop, buck, nas and encore are all detox left overs your an idiot...second of all i do know that he gave some of his 'detox session+leftover' beats to alot of those people you mentioned....for example....grodt got beats which were meant to for detox, game got beats which were meant for detox, snoop got a beat which was meant for detox.....buck got left over beats period....encore got a beat which was meant for detox....BUT if you think thats all these niggaz got you wrong....dre was in the studio creating music for these niggaz and beats which would match there music....you think how we do and first track from documentary for for detox? its obvious how we do had 50/game written all over it....the westside story joint was originally made for game to be put on a OST and then changed cuz they felt it was too good....encore with eminem....they worked 2 weeks flat on making beats soley intended for that album....not every beat is made with detox in mind....
Next...what are you talking about making assumptions like i cannot see shit?.........I agree that the stuff dre did on big bang was the most experimental shit dre has done since grodt....when did i say something else?....what you talking about?...
NOW most experimental does not automatically mean best....the beats dre gave game were much better....ofcourse you fail to see this since you have been dissmissing most things game for a long time now....BUT the beats on documentary were greater than the beats of big bang.....BUT the beats of big bang were more experimental...in some cases....I agree.......
Now about what i said about eve's shit....when i said they would not suit her because they were not fly enough...i mean they did not have such a 'hollywood' sound....eve needs more feminine shit or shit which is crisper....big bang beats were dark....which is dope but it aint eve beats....
I already said, big bang is a nice CD but is nothing amazing....
i do not know where you make such accusations against me, but i felt the need to back my case just incase you start some hate parade against a real nigga LyRiCaL_G :laugh:
pz
Lol man, I was just kidding around a lil bit, didnt mean anythign serious with it thats why I added the :P
About the beats we all have our different taste but to me beats on Enocre, Massacre + Massacre Speical edition + GRODT OST, Big Bang and Kingdom Come were better than the beats on the Doc.
You mentioned "Westside Story", which was just a looped version of old elements from In Da Club and Still D.R.E. How We Do was great, almost perfect, Start From Scratch sounded like the beats he did for Bad Boys 2 OST mixed together and that Mary J. track was pure crap.
Oh and I mentioned you and Big Bang because Ive noticed you saying plenty times how Dres input wasnt great or as good as Documentary and how those 2 dissapointed for 3 years of waiting.. Like I said for me its the best since GRODT.
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^^ Dre has actually been giving out Detox leftovers or rejects ever since GRODT dropped, I remember how he said that he gave 50 6 Detox leftovers. All his production from Massacre, Doc, Jay, Snoop, Buck, Nas, Encore.... has been nothing but leftovers or old sounds mixed differently. And who can blame him, theyre still better than most of the production out right now.
The cd he experimented the most since GRODT is by far The Big Bang, I cant believe how people cant see that. And by people I mean you Lyrical G :P
first of all if you really believe EVERY beat he produced for massacre, doc, jay, snoop, buck, nas and encore are all detox left overs your an idiot...second of all i do know that he gave some of his 'detox session+leftover' beats to alot of those people you mentioned....for example....grodt got beats which were meant to for detox, game got beats which were meant for detox, snoop got a beat which was meant for detox.....buck got left over beats period....encore got a beat which was meant for detox....BUT if you think thats all these niggaz got you wrong....dre was in the studio creating music for these niggaz and beats which would match there music....you think how we do and first track from documentary for for detox? its obvious how we do had 50/game written all over it....the westside story joint was originally made for game to be put on a OST and then changed cuz they felt it was too good....encore with eminem....they worked 2 weeks flat on making beats soley intended for that album....not every beat is made with detox in mind....
Next...what are you talking about making assumptions like i cannot see shit?.........I agree that the stuff dre did on big bang was the most experimental shit dre has done since grodt....when did i say something else?....what you talking about?...
NOW most experimental does not automatically mean best....the beats dre gave game were much better....ofcourse you fail to see this since you have been dissmissing most things game for a long time now....BUT the beats on documentary were greater than the beats of big bang.....BUT the beats of big bang were more experimental...in some cases....I agree.......
Now about what i said about eve's shit....when i said they would not suit her because they were not fly enough...i mean they did not have such a 'hollywood' sound....eve needs more feminine shit or shit which is crisper....big bang beats were dark....which is dope but it aint eve beats....
I already said, big bang is a nice CD but is nothing amazing....
i do not know where you make such accusations against me, but i felt the need to back my case just incase you start some hate parade against a real nigga LyRiCaL_G :laugh:
pz
Lol man, I was just kidding around a lil bit, didnt mean anythign serious with it thats why I added the :P
About the beats we all have our different taste but to me beats on Enocre, Massacre + Massacre Speical edition + GRODT OST, Big Bang and Kingdom Come were better than the beats on the Doc.
You mentioned "Westside Story", which was just a looped version of old elements from In Da Club and Still D.R.E. How We Do was great, almost perfect, Start From Scratch sounded like the beats he did for Bad Boys 2 OST mixed together and that Mary J. track was pure crap.
Oh and I mentioned you and Big Bang because Ive noticed you saying plenty times how Dres input wasnt great or as good as Documentary and how those 2 dissapointed for 3 years of waiting.. Like I said for me its the best since GRODT.
yeah fo sho thats straight, but to me its like this.....grodt=beats beats dre did since .....grodt......then documentary....i think westside story bangs, was repetitive but bangs...how we do was great for a club joint....start from scratch was the best of them all....dre and storch=greatness....detox worthy.....mary j beat was hella underrated, but akon did it better.....
massacre = special edition were weak....
encore beats ranged form dope to decent to garbage....
jigga beats were horrible simple and boring....simple can be great when dre does it, but these were weak...snoop beats were weak, buck beats were horrible....and big bang were like encore, ranged from dope to average...
that is how i see it
pz
p.s....I agree and stand by my statement that big bang was not worth 3 years of wait, it was over organised which does not suit music....dre input was strange....like busta spit great top to bottom on the record....but to someone who has followed busta a long ass time, he left too much shit off the album to call it a busta/dre album....it was more like "busta you do this" album........pz
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Maybe it's just me, but I've got mad respect for Eve for doing that. If she thinks her music was good by itself - why let Dre water it down into some prototype bullshit?
Truth. But she should of realized that that was exactly what was going to happen when she signed to Aftermath.
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EVE fucked on Flixx
I checked them...
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From reading that article, i think Eve wasn't happy with the image that Dre wanted her to play... It sounds like Dre wanted her to play some gangsta-hoe role, and Eve wants to stay pop-friendly..
but i thought she was a "ryde or die bitch" ;)
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From reading that article, i think Eve wasn't happy with the image that Dre wanted her to play... It sounds like Dre wanted her to play some gangsta-hoe role, and Eve wants to stay pop-friendly..
but i thought she was a "ryde or die bitch" ;)
lol how long ago was that?
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damn, that one song Eve had on the bulworth soundtrack is the hardest female rap EVER. and prob like 95% better than most male raps too, haha. that was a crazy ass song.
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damn, that one song Eve had on the bulworth soundtrack is the hardest female rap EVER. and prob like 95% better than most male raps too, haha. that was a crazy ass song.
Im glad someone besides me remembers Eve of Destruction. That beat was so fucking hard. It wasn't a Dre track but it sounded just like one.