West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: dameons on May 08, 2007, 11:31:44 PM
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Says they did in the booklet of "15 yrs on Death Row"..
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i heard Pac dissed Cube for Westside Connection sayin that it was only to keep him (cube) relevant in the game
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never knew they had beef
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never knew they had beef
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not tryin to diss cube over a old beef with pac(i dont know his situation with suge )...but i think everybody knows that he was just tryin to sell records with all this aggressive westcoast shit...
and thats why pac dissed him
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when did pac dis cube>>>>????
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when did pac dis cube>>>>????
think it was the interview he did for vibe magazine, i had it on audio before, not rare or anything and he basically said the things other people said in this thread.
it was no beef at all, pac just spoke on how he felt about cube's moves
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2Pac was an attention whore. Cube never did anything that should've made Pac call him out.
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Cube was west representin. It was a time when the eastcoast was taking over saleswise and Cube stepped up for the west. Nothing to hate
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i heard Pac dissed Cube for Westside Connection sayin that it was only to keep him (cube) relevant in the game
damn...pacs a real ass dude
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2Pac was an attention whore. Cube never did anything that should've made Pac call him out.
yeah Pac went crazy at the end. I guess Suge and DR brought his worst sides up. I mean I love his music, but he couldn't handle his fame
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Really It was no beef,just Pac's interview about east coast west coast war.He spoke about Westside connection that they have used a situation and have begun to diss with east coast.I think its a bullshit!
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actually Cube dissed 2pac on The Gangsta, The Killa and the Dope Dealer
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actually Cube dissed 2pac on The Gangsta, The Killa and the Dope Dealer
What line? Musta been a subliminal.
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Pac thought Cube was trying to jump on the Pac bandwagon by dissing the East. Pac should have shown Cube more respect IMO. If you listen to Pac's first record he's trying to be Amerikkka's most...
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"All you old rappers trying to advance... bla bla.. take it like a man..." was prolly directed at Cube an WC, no?
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"All you old rappers trying to advance... bla bla.. take it like a man..." was prolly directed at Cube an WC, no?
De La Soul
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Pac thought Cube was trying to jump on the Pac bandwagon by dissing the East. Pac should have shown Cube more respect IMO. If you listen to Pac's first record he's trying to be Amerikkka's most...
Cube's beef was more political, about radio djs not playing west coast music. He got so many people heated with the All The Critics In NY song but like the title says it is for the critics. Pac's beefs were more personal and just so happened to be with East Coast Rappers. But I have heard Pac in interviews speak on what Cube was speaking on so I did not understand where there was confusion on his part.
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Snoop, Rage, Dre, Cube, Sneed, all had issues with him at one point...
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Pac thought Cube was trying to jump on the Pac bandwagon by dissing the East. Pac should have shown Cube more respect IMO. If you listen to Pac's first record he's trying to be Amerikkka's most...
Cube's beef was more political, about radio djs not playing west coast music. He got so many people heated with the All The Critics In NY song but like the title says it is for the critics. Pac's beefs were more personal and just so happened to be with East Coast Rappers. But I have heard Pac in interviews speak on what Cube was speaking on so I did not understand where there was confusion on his part.
Cube started going after the east coast on westside slaughterhouse, which came out in '95 as a response to Common's I used to Love H.E.R. and and Masta Ace's Slaughterhouse. Pac even jocked the whole "wesssiiide" thing from Cube. It doesn't make sense that Pac would diss him, considering that Cube was on Strictly For My N.I.G.G.A.Z.
As talented as Pac was, he was definitely losing him mind towards the end.
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The booklet says that they were beefing within a year after "Natural Born Killaz"..Remember, 'Pac was in that video at the end aiming a rifle at Cube and Dre,"whom he'd both be beefing with within the next year".....
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i thought Tupac made a comment about Ice Cube in an interview basically questioning why Cube had just started representing the West Coast after All Eyez on Me came out. I also heard that Cube had a song after Tupac died rapping "and I'm still living my life, my life, my life in the sunshine" - can't remember if i actually heard that joint or if it was just a rumour.
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yall are making mountains out of molehills.
he said that pac's w was differnt then cubes....pac said his w also stood for war more then anything else. he didnt really dis them but he wasnt on they dick niether.
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two of the greatest. Both Geminis. that's all we need to know.
-T
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two of the greatest. Both Geminis. that's all we need to know.
-T
lol tanj always with the astrology stuff! :P
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cube would kill him lyrically.
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it was about dat "westside" shit.he says something like: ice cube´s been throwin up tha dub while i was in jail when i came out it was a muthafuckin problem or something.shed some light on it, i never understood/knew what really heppend.
what does the death row booklet say?
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Ice Cube was born on June 15, 2pac on June 16
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Ice Cube was born on June 15, 2pac on June 16
that doesnt explain anything.
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when did it become cool to pay attention to gangsta rappers zodiac signs?
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The booklet just says that they beefed a year after the N.B.K. video, nothing detailed...
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hmm, never knew they beefed I always thought they were always good (ex: Natural Born Killerz Video & Last Wordz)
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"All you old rappers trying to advance... bla bla.. take it like a man..." was prolly directed at Cube an WC, no?
De La Soul
I thought it was LL Cool J over that I Shot Ya track.
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"All you old rappers trying to advance... bla bla.. take it like a man..." was prolly directed at Cube an WC, no?
De La Soul
I thought it was LL Cool J over that I Shot Ya track.
He ad lib after that verse and said "Look At De La Soul" and he was dissing them in a interview for them saying gangsta rap is fucking up hip hop. He dissed LL enough on Lil Homies and 4 My Niggaz. I think the thread should say why 2pac had beef with Ice Cube, because Cube has shown nothing but love to Pac even after he died. I have never heard Cube say anything bad about Pac.
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"All you old rappers trying to advance... bla bla.. take it like a man..." was prolly directed at Cube an WC, no?
De La Soul
I thought it was LL Cool J over that I Shot Ya track.
He ad lib after that verse and said "Look At De La Soul" and he was dissing them in a interview for them saying gangsta rap is fucking up hip hop. He dissed LL enough on Lil Homies and 4 My Niggaz. I think the thread should say why 2pac had beef with Ice Cube, because Cube has shown nothing but love to Pac even after he died. I have never heard Cube say anything bad about Pac.
Didn't know he dissed LL on those 2 songs, I gotta take another listen. Those track were both of Me Against the World right?
Well what about 2Pac saying "How many niggaz down to die for me/yeah yeeah!" Then Cube was always using that yeah yeah shit, maybe it had something to do with that. I might be reachin on that though.
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"All you old rappers trying to advance... bla bla.. take it like a man..." was prolly directed at Cube an WC, no?
De La Soul
I thought it was LL Cool J over that I Shot Ya track.
He ad lib after that verse and said "Look At De La Soul" and he was dissing them in a interview for them saying gangsta rap is fucking up hip hop. He dissed LL enough on Lil Homies and 4 My Niggaz. I think the thread should say why 2pac had beef with Ice Cube, because Cube has shown nothing but love to Pac even after he died. I have never heard Cube say anything bad about Pac.
Didn't know he dissed LL on those 2 songs, I gotta take another listen. Those track were both of Me Against the World right?
Well what about 2Pac saying "How many niggaz down to die for me/yeah yeeah!" Then Cube was always using that yeah yeah shit, maybe it had something to do with that. I might be reachin on that though.
Lil Homies is on Until The End Of Time but they edited out the diss on LL at the end. 4 My Niggaz is unreleased. I know I have the OG song of Lil Homies, I just have to find it. Same with 4 My Niggaz. When I find it I will post it. The yeahe yeahe part Cube started using that on the Player's Club Soundtrack and that was after Pac died. All Pac's disses were aggressive competition against Cube. We wanted that whole westside slogan and movement to himself. When both were just standing up for the coast. Dumb on Pac's part.
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Lil Homies OG (LL Cool J diss)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/04-lil-homies-mp3.html
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cube would be too scared to respond...he wouldnt diss anyone on deathrow....so pac would win the battle
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I also heard that Cube had a song after Tupac died rapping "and I'm still living my life, my life, my life in the sunshine" - can't remember if i actually heard that joint or if it was just a rumour.
& that has to do with this how?
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i heard interview by pac talkin bout ice cube and that westside shit.
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cube would kill him lyrically.
Hit 'Em Up > No Vaseline
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cube would kill him lyrically.
Hit 'Em Up > No Vaseline
Hell no.
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cube would kill him lyrically.
Hit 'Em Up > No Vaseline
Hell no.
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EVERY BODY MAKING A BIG DEAL OUTTA NOTHING! D-NICE YOU KNOW WHATS UP LET EM KNOW LOC!
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cube would kill him lyrically.
Hit 'Em Up > No Vaseline
Hell no.
Hit 'em up is a cool track with aggressive lyrics, but lyrically it can't fuck with No Vaseline, which is one of the best diss tracks ever.
Cube just teared apart NWA with it.
That was the time when nobody could fuck with Cube.
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EVERY BODY MAKING A BIG DEAL OUTTA NOTHING! D-NICE YOU KNOW WHATS UP LET EM KNOW LOC!
LOL! 2 people have to beef for it to be called BEEF. 2pac said some things about Ice Cube and Cube did not respond. Did he hear it? I don't know, but Cube has ALWAYS showed Pac nothing but love before and after he died, present or not. Pac got that whole "westside" thing confused. If that was the case he should have dissed Kam and MC Eiht, who were both throwing up the W before anyone. Instead of recognizing WSCG going after the djs and critics, Pac blindly dissed. It's all good, no rap war came out of it, both made dope music during the time and both repped the west to the fullest.
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yo my niggaz didnt king tee hold pac up by his coller against his car cus he didtn like what pac did or some shit like dat. now dat shit is real my niggaz
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i never knew they had beef so i dont know how this topic even started, and no one has stated anythng about a beef yet
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The booklet states "Beef" very clearly..
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The booklet states "Beef" very clearly..
Well unless something behind the scenes happened, 2pac dissed Cube and he did not respond.
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2Pac was an attention whore. Cube never did anything that should've made Pac call him out.
Pac kept the game real. Now it's full of nothing but fakeness since he left.
What he said about Cube was true. Even though I appreciate that album Cube did Summer of 96' cause that represents West Coast glory days. But still, like I said, you can see now that without Pac the game was immediately taken over by fake bussinessmen like Puffy, Jay-Z, and Master P, and it's even worse now.
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No one can dispute Pac was a great leader for not only the west but hip hop. But that does not mean he was the only voice out here. 2pac and Ice Cube talked about similar issues when it came to what they thought was east coast djs not playing west coast records. Cube was talking about that in 94-95 when the Common beef was poppin off. I might be reaching but I don't know if 2pac's opinion on why Cube did WSCG was off of 1 record (Bow Down) because that album came out after he died. But Bow Down was not a diss record. Hitemup is a diss record. So IMO Pac was ego driven when he said that Cube was copying what he was doing. Both talked about the same thing, Cube just aired it out more on Bow Down and his was not as personal, it was more for the critics. And trust me, if Bow Down would have tanked, we would not be talking about the album or its participants in the same light, because they would have tried to black ball them. Check out the WC interview here, he talks about the reasons WSCG was formed. For the record, I am a huge Cube and Pac fan, but I thought Pac was a little misguided with that comment, but that does not change my view on his work or his legacy.
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+1 d-nice, always keeps it way real.
-T
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why would cube be scared of dissing 2pac?? how can u be scared of someone who is down wit Death Row?. them niggas was bustas. when Baby Lane shot 'em they all cried like lil bitches. not one nigga returned fire. not one!!
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Why does it have to be true just because it's in a booklet? A lot of bullshit gets printed. I think it's pretty clear there was never any real beef.
By the way, wasn't Cube talking in the beginning of Hit em Up 2 or 3 or some other song? Or was that just edited in?
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Pac also said that he mastered Ice Cube's shit. His ego was just way out of control during his Death Row days he couldn't handle his fame going from having nothing in jail to houses and cars and whatever he wanted. He talked way too much shit. So brilliant with the pen but couldn't keep his mouth shut.
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why would cube be scared of dissing 2pac?? how can u be scared of someone who is down wit Death Row?. them niggas was bustas. when Baby Lane shot 'em they all cried like lil bitches. not one nigga returned fire. not one!!
I see what youre saying, a real "gangsta" would have jumped out the car, bulletholes bleeding and started shooting like a real G, even though the wounds was fatal.
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I remember seeing an interview with Pac, in a shooting range. He was talking about how young black men in the hood dont have no fathers,that they got their knowledge from the rap game. And i remember him mentoning Cube as one of his fathers. But if this was conducted before or after their "beef" i do not know. Still an example of Pac showing Cube the respect he deserves, in my opinion!
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yo to whoever the fuck that said no vaseline was better than hit em up....
R U FUCKIN KIDDIN ME?
Hit Em Up is thee best diss record in the history of hip hop, no other record can match its energy and ferocity that pac showed on that song, i mean seriously i could give a fuck less bout the lyrics cuz when i hear hit em up, it makes me, a big fan of eastcoast rappers, wanna hate the eastcoast forever wit a passion, hahaha thas how powerful the song is and thas why it is the best diss, hands down....no vaseline aint got shit on it
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yo to whoever the fuck that said no vaseline was better than hit em up....
R U FUCKIN KIDDIN ME?
Hit Em Up is thee best diss record in the history of hip hop, no other record can match its energy and ferocity that pac showed on that song, i mean seriously i could give a fuck less bout the lyrics cuz when i hear hit em up, it makes me, a big fan of eastcoast rappers, wanna hate the eastcoast forever wit a passion, hahaha thas how powerful the song is and thas why it is the best diss, hands down....no vaseline aint got shit on it
Well, obviously, we got different views about what a diss-song should have.
I didn't say that Hit Em Up was wack, I like the track.
It's probably the most energetic diss-song in history and the flow is on point.
But a diss-song should have dope-ass lyrics, where you think "damn, he really fucked him up".
Of course the flow should also be on point, but the main part are the lyrics.
A diss song ain't about who has the best flow, it's about to kill the opponent lyrically.
Pac only said "I'mma kill y'alll, I fucked your wife".
When I first heard No Vaseline, I was laughing and thinkin' Cube fucked up every single member of NWA.
And in No Vasline, Cube's lyrics weren't the only dope parts, his flow was also dope as fuck.