West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: BigRobGmail on May 22, 2007, 05:47:33 PM
-
http://allhiphop.com/reviews/?ID=1175
-
where exactly did you see them dissing west coast hip hop?
-
i havent heard this yet so i cant comment on the quality of the music, but allhiphop isnt dissing west coast rap in general. theyre saying butch cassidy and damizza put out a garbage album. its one opinion on one CD homeboy.
-
-1
-
"The party songs are cheesy, the gangsta songs sound pop, and they really misrepresent for all the great West Coast artists putting out good music. “Get Your Party On”, “Talk 2 Me”, and “Str8 Playa” are prime examples. The production isn’t even on the level of most independents out of the Golden State, whether it be L.A. or the Bay."
i dont know how you came to that conclusion, homie. :P
-
ouch!!!!!!!!!
them reviews were pretty harsh, they cut right through seeing that i enjoy listenin to the album!!
However you will always have critics, so it's all good!!
But damn!!
Anybody know the last time Damizza or Butch posted in here
http://allhiphop.com/reviews/?ID=1175
^^
Not sure if they were dissing the westcoast
Snoop's Blue Carpet Treatment got 4,
Game's Doctors Advocate got 4.5
so you can't say just cuz they gave Back b4 ur Lonely bad reviews it's a shot at the whole westcoast rap thing.
Blu!
-
Wow. I'm a little shocked. I thought this album was BANGIN!!
Agree alot more with that 1 really good in-depth review that was posted on here (a link to some site) before the album dropped ;)
-
it's just one person's opinion
-
fuck the haters
-
I was expecting more from this album....couple cool tracks but Butch can do way better.
But thats just me....
But I think AHH are disisng more the album which is fair enough since they review it....and I mean it's just their opinion.....If you like it cool, if you don't well then maybe you like the next collaborations....
-
I thought the album was great, which is why I awarded them 4 Dubs in the DubCNN review. I thought 'Mizza's raps fitted the overall, laid-back vibe of the project and Butch's voice was as endearing as ever. Obviously, I didn't expect any revolutionary, conscious Hip-Hop. I wanted to hear a great party record, pure and simple. In those respects, listeners were rewarded. The whole project was seamless, sliding perfectly from one track to the next.
That AHH review seems the equivalent of someone who listens exclusively to Warren G/Dove Shack/Tha Twinz deciding to review the new Nas or Saigon album. It just shouldn't be allowed.
-
People should learn how to read
-
it's just one person's opinion
True 8)
-
Album was aight.
-
Reviews like this is why we have to think for ourself's and make our own decisions on what we like and dont like.
This album is still in my rotation! 8) 8)
-
great summer album, cant think of a weak track
fuck allhiphop
-
I can't speak on the album, but I sort of think allhiphop.com is kinda right in a way.
There's been lot of "party music" from west coast. Example: dj quik with that "can you work with that" track, Down "cholo" or something like that. Just naming few.
But, i think west coast need to get back to the root.
-
weird.... that album wasnt horrible, but def wasnt special
-
it's just one person's opinion
True 8)
rap reviews werent to enthusistic about it either.
Ive only listened to it the once, it was built up on this site to be something amazing. Personally i think butch can do better but in all honesty i expect to appreciate the album the more i listen to it.
-
I heard a couple of promotional tracks and thought, "Blah".
Really, I don't have much sympathy for the West Coast when they complain they're being hated on these days. 90% of the time, it's albums like this being held up as examples of "the best" from the West, while equally party-oriented Dirty South records or East Coast records get hated on for not being G'd up enough. West Coast cats have become such hypocrites these days that it's hard for me to think they were once the same people getting hated on by the East back when G-Funk was THE movement.
-
I heard a couple of promotional tracks and thought, "Blah".
Really, I don't have much sympathy for the West Coast when they complain they're being hated on these days. 90% of the time, it's albums like this being held up as examples of "the best" from the West, while equally party-oriented Dirty South records or East Coast records get hated on for not being G'd up enough. West Coast cats have become such hypocrites these days that it's hard for me to think they were once the same people getting hated on by the East back when G-Funk was THE movement.
I kinda feel the same way.
-
You can't have positive without negative. I welcome the opinion of people that don't like what I/we do as artist's- It's the only way we know what you want from us.
As an artist/producer I don't change songs due to popular opinion, they just come out how they come out without thought.
But, I might say: "Hey they liked this one, so I'll put that one out."
Why wouldn't I embrace the haters?
The problem is when you get an angry writer who jus happens to be in a bad mood that day and has to write a review- We all have bad days.
I pay it no mind. It's just music man. He took it personal- Maybe he had a personal agenda. So, take the politrix out-
It either makes you wanna toke one or not- thats the way I see it anyway.
Plus there is a time and place for everything- "Back B4" is a "Party" album- We we're on let's have some fun shit.
You really gona freak out when you hear the "Ill Clinton" mixtape Bishop and I are doing- If you heard his last mixtape it was a no holds barred strong statement.
"Ill Clinton: Call to Anarchy" will be the same. Just my view on the world. Now that is a serious look. Something I've never done before. Bishop pushed me like I was in the fuckin gym or some shit. And, he came in and listened the other day..
He came in to tear it apart, he left loving it.
You gona see a whole new side of Damizza. hahaha 8)
-
You can't have positive without negative. I welcome the opinion of people that don't like what I/we do as artist's- It's the only way we know what you want from us.
As an artist/producer I don't change songs due to popular opinion, they just come out how they come out without thought.
But, I might say: "Hey they liked this one, so I'll put that one out."
Why wouldn't I embrace the haters?
The problem is when you get an angry writer who jus happens to be in a bad mood that day and has to write a review- We all have bad days.
I pay it no mind. It's just music man. He took it personal- Maybe he had a personal agenda. So, take the politrix out-
It either makes you wanna toke one or not- thats the way I see it anyway.
Plus there is a time and place for everything- "Back B4" is a "Party" album- We we're on let's have some fun shit.
You really gona freak out when you hear the "Ill Clinton" mixtape Bishop and I are doing- If you heard his last mixtape it was a no holds barred strong statement.
"Ill Clinton: Call to Anarchy" will be the same. Just my view on the world. Now that is a serious look. Something I've never done before. Bishop pushed me like I was in the fuckin gym or some shit. And, he came in and listened the other day..
He came in to tear it apart, he left loving it.
You gona see a whole new side of Damizza. hahaha 8)
Keeping with the topic...
Damizza I respect you being able to take both good and bad criticism.
Now for the off topic that I'm dying to throw out there.
When's that Ill Clinton Mixtape supposed to drop? How many tracks have you all done? When can we hear an exclusive track from it?
Props for dropping in Damizza and speaking on that Ill Clinton project.
-
I thought the album was great, which is why I awarded them 4 Dubs in the DubCNN review. I thought 'Mizza's raps fitted the overall, laid-back vibe of the project and Butch's voice was as endearing as ever. Obviously, I didn't expect any revolutionary, conscious Hip-Hop. I wanted to hear a great party record, pure and simple. In those respects, listeners were rewarded. The whole project was seamless, sliding perfectly from one track to the next.
That AHH review seems the equivalent of someone who listens exclusively to Warren G/Dove Shack/Tha Twinz deciding to review the new Nas or Saigon album. It just shouldn't be allowed.
I agree with that statement. I've grown up on mostly Westcoast Rap and prefer it more than Eastcoast or Southern rap so when it comes to me checking out artists from the East or South I tend to not like many or like their styles so I would probably give a review that people that were into Eastcoast and Southern rap wouldn't like. I feel that's probably what was up with this reviewer. Their not a fan of Westcoast Rap and so they didn't really feel the music like the rest of us do.
-
worst thread.
-
8) Here's how diffrent reviews can be. These guys gave both sides of the token. 8)
http://www.thuglifearmy.com/news/?id=3519 (http://www.thuglifearmy.com/news/?id=3519)
Props to Damizza for checkin in.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/ecam14/Mizzasmokenet-1.jpg)
-
You know what, I agree with allhiphop on there review for "Back B4 You're Lonely!" There was nothing tight about the album. Damizza, to me, isn't a dope producer at all. I never wanted to voice my view point about Mizza because alot of yall on here really really like dude, just like yall like Meech Wells. Dude is hella cheesy when it comes to producing. I mean I listened to the album to give him the benefit of the doubt but was disappointed. Dude all his music he has ever done, to me, sound like a lil kid trying work fruity loops and try to use West Coast snares and claps like thats going to carry the beat. ALl his sounds are weak to me! Now, I have high standards when it comes to making tracks cause all the people I look up to like Cat, Quik, Terrace, Soopafly, 1500, Amp, THX, Dre etc all make hot music ALL THE TIME! Their wack shit is even better then Mizza's best, to me! Look I'm just voicing this because I do make tracks, I'm a musician (check me out myspace.com/shaadg) and I just want to able to go out and buy some West Coast shit and know I'm going to get my money's worth on production that's all! I'm not dissing or hating or no shit like that yall take it how you want to. I mean more power to you if you like Mizza music, it's just my opinion!
Say what you want about me but my proof is in the pudding! Check out my page!
West Up
Cali Grizz
-
Tha Cali Grizz listend to your stuff on ur myspace, no hate but its amatuer city the beat WHOA is not that at all and track 1 is total garbage didnt bother with the rest, you talk a big game. again no hate just tellin it like it is.
-
Good looking on that bro! I appreciate the listen and the criticism! It's Your opinion player. Guess I gotta get back to the drawing boards!
West Up
Cali Grizz
-
Yeah, you've got it right Damizza, fuck the haters! Everyone that likes this smooth G-Funk music is riding with you anyway, this asshole just didn't know what he was doing.
-
Yeah, you've got it right Damizza, fuck the haters! Everyone that likes this smooth G-Funk music is riding with you anyway, this asshole just didn't know what he was doing.
An asshole man?!? Thats cool man, everybody feels different man! His form of G-Funk or his way of doing it, I guess, just didn't move me man! Like I said I'm not hating on Mizza by no means. He's in the game cracking right now and the west needs more product out to get our shine back. I'm trying to get there ya dig. it's just his album didn't do it for me and I felt I didn't get what I expected. As a matter of fact, WEST UP TO YOU MIZZA!
-
the problem with alot of east coast oriented cats is that they don't have any remote semblance of understanding that the 'funk' aspect of west coast music is often JUST as important as the hip-hop aspect. for example, in my opinion, regulate...g-funk era and illmatic (came out at the same time) are two sides to the same coin. illmatic the rapping aspect,regulate the production you know?
the guy who made the saigon comparison is on point
also,i agree with damizza saying 'it's simple, either you wanna toke one or you don't' and this reviewer is probably some straight edge square who counts multi's in verses.
-T