West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Fatdodger on June 05, 2007, 01:11:10 PM
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When Dre puts in work from the west were the best notice N.W.A Death Row and the people he works with like Warren G Game Dont Wait rmx or Xzibit before pimp my ride when he focuses his attention to us like snoop or nate or game but then he fucks with 5 0 and m&m but if it was west instead of gwen stefani and lil romeo we would the premier side instead of the gay ass south
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1. Dre never produced for Lil romeo
2. Jimmy Iovine made him give the beat to Gwen Stefani because shes on interscope
3. Could you see a gangstar rapper on the Rich Girl beat?
4. 50 Cent was mainly Eminems protege, Dre just helped out.
5. 2001 had loads of west coast artists on it yet only Xzibit made any impact on the mainstream audience - is that Dre's fault, no.
6. Why does Dre always have to do all the work when putting the west coast on the map, like Glasses Malone just said, its ruining the west coast always relying on Dre, Snoop or Cube
7. The South blowing up was due i doubt Dre could have done anything about it.
8. Dre helped Game get his career going and Snoops, those two are the two biggest West Coast artists atm.
9. His new protege, Bishop Lamont, reps the west coast
10. Dre's working with the New west Coast - Omar Cruz, Slim Da Mobster, Cashis + more
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I get that i know and he is helping lil romeo but he doesnt really focus as much as he could if he put in his effort like he does for 5 0 and others shit it would be crackin right now
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It's Dre's money at stake though; he knows by producing tracks on his album and mixing his tracks it'll sound better and sell better so he's not going to decide to help out a coast that needs to learn to stand on its own two feet, and lose money. Without 50, Game would have never blown up either so I believe everything links together
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What are you from the east b but anyway every fuckin coast his is pioneers that still put in work and dre puts it ocassonally and it cool
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keep doin ya thang dre much love from the future 8)
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1. Dre never produced for Lil romeo
2. Jimmy Iovine made him give the beat to Gwen Stefani because shes on interscope
3. Could you see a gangstar rapper on the Rich Girl beat?
4. 50 Cent was mainly Eminems protege, Dre just helped out.
5. 2001 had loads of west coast artists on it yet only Xzibit made any impact on the mainstream audience - is that Dre's fault, no.
6. Why does Dre always have to do all the work when putting the west coast on the map, like Glasses Malone just said, its ruining the west coast always relying on Dre, Snoop or Cube
7. The South blowing up was due i doubt Dre could have done anything about it.
8. Dre helped Game get his career going and Snoops, those two are the two biggest West Coast artists atm.
9. His new protege, Bishop Lamont, reps the west coast
10. Dre's working with the New west Coast - Omar Cruz, Slim Da Mobster, Cashis + more
real talk
but really tho, dre's shit sounds better with westcoast artists, but dont hate on the nigga for branchin out, dre basically created what u call the westcoast sound so no matter who the fuck he works with, hes always gonna be the westcoast king in my books...
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thats sum cry baby shit... Dr.Dre been working with east coast rappers since 1996. i mean its nothing new...FUCK A COAST its about making good music, West Coast acts been crying about not getting airplay or help to go major but they dont do shit to help the situation...and I have to give props to Bishop Lamont for fucking with Pete Rock and other folks from the east that makes him an universal Artist, also 1500 or Nuthin for fucking with Just Blaze and Kanye and props to Terrace Martin for working heavily on Lalah's record...see those people see bigger than west coast, they try to go unversal wit their sound, they wanna make music for the world, so they are crossing the bridge doesnt matter where the fuck they are from thats why these people will have success in a major way...some artist should take notes...
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1. Dre never produced for Lil romeo
2. Jimmy Iovine made him give the beat to Gwen Stefani because shes on interscope
3. Could you see a gangstar rapper on the Rich Girl beat?
4. 50 Cent was mainly Eminems protege, Dre just helped out.
5. 2001 had loads of west coast artists on it yet only Xzibit made any impact on the mainstream audience - is that Dre's fault, no.
6. Why does Dre always have to do all the work when putting the west coast on the map, like Glasses Malone just said, its ruining the west coast always relying on Dre, Snoop or Cube
7. The South blowing up was due i doubt Dre could have done anything about it.
8. Dre helped Game get his career going and Snoops, those two are the two biggest West Coast artists atm.
9. His new protege, Bishop Lamont, reps the west coast
10. Dre's working with the New west Coast - Omar Cruz, Slim Da Mobster, Cashis + more
real talk
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dre ain't gonna work with o cruz.
cashis is west coast?
yeah slim da mobster is wested as fuck, I'm looking forward to his work with dre.
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dre ain't gonna work with o cruz.
cashis is west coast?
yeah slim da mobster is wested as fuck, I'm looking forward to his work with dre.
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I thought in a new interview he said he was working with Dre?
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so did lil romeo, no?
alot of cats say alot of shit. dude probably bought a focus beat and didn't know no better or some shit.
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he said he's gonna try and get Dre on there when he finshes up. To produce or maybe mix is unknown. As long as the music bangs i don't care who he works with 8)
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Props to everyone who replied with a legit response ...because I didn't understand shit the OP wrote. ???
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dre ain't gonna work with o cruz.
cashis is west coast?
yeah slim da mobster is wested as fuck, I'm looking forward to his work with dre.
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He's from Orange County so i guess he is, its not Compton or the Bay but its still West Coast.
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that's dope that Em signed somneone from the west coast.
i wasn't dissing orange county, I just didn't know cashis was from CA
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thats sum cry baby shit... Dr.Dre been working with east coast rappers since 1996. i mean its nothing new...FUCK A COAST its about making good music, West Coast acts been crying about not getting airplay or help to go major but they dont do shit to help the situation...and I have to give props to Bishop Lamont for fucking with Pete Rock and other folks from the east that makes him an universal Artist, also 1500 or Nuthin for fucking with Just Blaze and Kanye and props to Terrace Martin for working heavily on Lalah's record...see those people see bigger than west coast, they try to go unversal wit their sound, they wanna make music for the world, so they are crossing the bridge doesnt matter where the fuck they are from thats why these people will have success in a major way...some artist should take notes...
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True talk, Mayne!!
Don't forget Snoop, Snoop branched out, & came back to the westcoast!
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westcoast is canada without dre/cube
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dre ain't gonna work with o cruz.
and where did you get this precious info from crackability?
are you working as a janitor at the aftermath studios maybe? 8)
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who knows..maybe dre hates the westcoast or he is scared of all the gangsters on the west..or its just interscope business jimmy tellin dre what he has to do...but dre should def do more work with westcoast artists
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1. Dre starts a great era for the west coast with The Chronic and Death Row.
2. Dre leaves Death Row, starts up Aftermath, the west frowns upon him for working with Nas, The Firm etc
3. Dre comes back to the west w/ 2001, and basically starts a whole new great era for the West (99-01 was a good for the west)
4. Dre works with 50, Eminem, Eve++, and the west disses him again.
5.? Detox: back to the west?
Or should he even bother?
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Actually the question is, is Dre up to it. It is easy to jump on the hot artists and produce for them, not many people will be disappointed anyways, i'm not sure if Dre could produce an entire Westcoast album again, i think it is up to the newer producers...
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dre ain't gonna work with o cruz.
and where did you get this precious info from crackability?
are you working as a janitor at the aftermath studios maybe? 8)
Ohhhh shit! You should get a HBO special dogg!
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1. Dre starts a great era for the west coast with The Chronic and Death Row.
2. Dre leaves Death Row, starts up Aftermath, the west frowns upon him for working with Nas, The Firm etc
3. Dre comes back to the west w/ 2001, and basically starts a whole new great era for the West (99-01 was a good for the west)
4. Dre works with 50, Eminem, Eve++, and the west disses him again.
5.? Detox: back to the west?
Or should he even bother?
Thats what im really thinking
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^ I didn't know you was capable of that. :-\
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Dre was probably the first superstar rapper/producer who said "fuck all this stupid eastcoast, westcoast bullshit". It's nothin wrong with reppin where you are from (Dre has done it also), but it took alot of balls to stand apart from Deathrow, Suge, Pac and to get dissed the way he did back in the day...It still amazes me how eastcoast producers and rappers, south producers and rappers work with whomever they want and their fans don't make a big deal of it....No one has done more for a coast, east or west or south than Dre has done for the west....Even Snoop has had something to say about Dre working with the east...Maybe some of the other westcoast legends including Snoop should step up instead of being so selfish promoting their own careers...
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I never started this topic to knock dre i just noticed that when dre rocks with the west we are untouchable
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Dre was probably the first superstar rapper/producer who said "fuck all this stupid eastcoast, westcoast bullshit". It's nothin wrong with reppin where you are from (Dre has done it also), but it took alot of balls to stand apart from Deathrow, Suge, Pac and to get dissed the way he did back in the day...It still amazes me how eastcoast producers and rappers, south producers and rappers work with whomever they want and their fans don't make a big deal of it....No one has done more for a coast, east or west or south than Dre has done for the west....Even Snoop has had something to say about Dre working with the east...Maybe some of the other westcoast legends including Snoop should step up instead of being so selfish promoting their own careers...
That's real talk too. Dre has done so much for the West, back with N.W.A. he, together with Yella, Ren, Cube & Eazy, he made the whole gangstarap-genre get popular and profitable. This brought many great albums for us, including the ones from 2Pac, Warren G, Dr. Dre himself, Snoop Dogg and Tha Dogg Pound.
Then the West was falling off the scene and Dre came with 2001 and helped it back to the top, from 99 - 01/02 the West was on top of things again, thanks to Dre. Even though he got dissed for no reason really, he continued to support the West.
But Dre ain't no fool, he doesn't just limit his vision to one area or coast, that's why he works with people like Eminem, 50 Cent, Stat Quo etc. He knows that music is not "bounded" by coasts, and to think it is is kinda lame. The West need to get off Dre's dick (no homo) and do something on their own to reach stardom again instead of relying on Dre to do it for them.
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If the west wants dre, they need to get off that gangster shit. New topics will bring him in( Bishop Lamont) or just undeniable raw talent(Slim the mobster)
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Xander right, like Glasses Malone said, West needs to start making its own moves instead of relying on Dre or Snoop. The Hyphy scene is good cause its not relying much on promotion from people like Dre or Snoop but the gangsta rap scene still does.
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Props to both. I know there's truth in your words Tanj but i just think it is hipocrit to help create a musicstyle and later on say you want nothing to do with it anymore. Doesn't mae snese you know, i understand Dre wanna move on to other things but you know, you can't deny your own work as producer...
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Props to both. I know there's truth in your words Tanj but i just think it is hipocrit to help create a musicstyle and later on say you want nothing to do with it anymore. Doesn't mae snese you know, i understand Dre wanna move on to other things but you know, you can't deny your own work as producer...
he'd be down with gangsta rap if it was still being twisted and flipped in a creative/cool way but listen to even the best gangsta rappers and what they're doing is tired.
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Treu i'm getting tired of the same old things from the Wes, that's why i'm digging the South at this point, i mean their beats and lyrics just fit perfectly together, bangin' beats, simple lyrics, i love it.
And to the cats who say the south ain't lyrical listen to some Lil' Wayne, Young Jeezy or Bun B, the way Bun flows on a beat is fuckin' out of this world, he stands apart from most of the other rappers.
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you got your scarfaces and outkasts, but most south shit I hear I don't like. but that's cool
I been listening to Michael Jackson, Roger Troutman and Bob Dylan lately
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Yeah i remember when i used to like MJ's music, nowadays i'm mainly into hiphop, but i'ma go download some MJ to see if i still like his music. 8)
And Outkast, man, they are really one of the best groups in hiphop, period. ATLiens is fuckin' classic. 8)
I never really listened to Scarface a lot, i liked his guestappearances but never really checked out a full album. What album is his best?
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i have no face albums, I just know he and the Geto boyz are dope.
thriller and off the wall though as far as MJ man, that shit is chronic.
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Aight i'ma check these 2 albums of MJ. I know Thriller, listened to it alot when i was younger, dope album as far as i can tell, i think it'd be great to hear it again.
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anyone who hasn't heard either 'off the wall' or 'thriller' is either white or doesn't know music very well
pick one
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Or you're an asshole who thinks his opinion does matter. :)
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Or you're an asshole who thinks his opinion does matter. :)
i struck the white nerve it seems
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How do you know black people today aint heard Thriller and Off The Wall. Infact i've only heard Thriller and songs from Off the Wall.
On another note, Scarface and Outkast >>>>>>>>> Rest of the south
Scarface's albums remind me of Pac in a way but he came before Pac. You got to listen to The Fix and Diary, they're both classic Southern albums
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anyone who hasn't heard either 'off the wall' or 'thriller' is either white or doesn't know music very well
pick one
everyone's heard songs from them, but hearing a whole album in context is something that not all people do all the time right away. you have to have an interest in an artist to do that most of the time,. also, this dude ain't in america, so while it was big, perhaps it wasn't as big around him.
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anyone who hasn't heard either 'off the wall' or 'thriller' is either white or doesn't know music very well
pick one
everyone's heard songs from them, but hearing a whole album in context is something that not all people do all the time right away. you have to have an interest in an artist to do that most of the time,. also, this dude ain't in america, so while it was big, perhaps it wasn't as big around him.
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Yeah i'm from Holland but over here MJ was pretty big as well, but don't froget i'm 18 right now, and by the time Thriller came out i was maybe not even born (dunno the exact release date, i think it's in the 80's)
Anyways i used to have it on cassette and listened to it every now and then, i didn't hear Off The Wall though. But then again, i was way younger so i didn't know s much about music as right now.
So yeah, all Nasty Nem can say about me is that i'm "white" but then again, who says he isn't. Maybe he's white in secret too and that would make him the biggest wigger on this forum...
Anyways, +1 for your post T.
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thriler dropped in 83. get is ASAP
off the wall from 79, get that shit extra ASAP
impeccably produced funky ass records, dre himself couldn't have produced 'em better than quincy jones did here
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Aight i'ma go download them right now. 8)
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Aight i'ma go download them right now. 8)
good man
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I heard Thriller twice now and Off The Wall 1 time, i'm impressed. The productions are soooooo tight on here, you were totally right about it. And his whole voice and style are really an addition to every track, man this shit is fuckin' classic. 8)
Many props for hooking me up with this shit, i doubt i would be listening to it right now if you didn't point it out. I really love these 2 albums (no homo). When i'm done listening to these 2 i'll go check some more MJ shit. +1
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I never started this topic to knock dre i just noticed that when dre rocks with the west we are untouchable
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Dre doesn't give a fuck when you're from. All he cares bout is if the person he works with got talent. He said in a 96 interview that he would work with someone from Afghanistan if he thinks that person is dope. And he has always been that way. The D.O.C was from Texas right?
And the Lady of Rage was from the East Coast too.
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I heard Thriller twice now and Off The Wall 1 time, i'm impressed. The productions are soooooo tight on here, you were totally right about it. And his whole voice and style are really an addition to every track, man this shit is fuckin' classic. 8)
Many props for hooking me up with this shit, i doubt i would be listening to it right now if you didn't point it out. I really love these 2 albums (no homo). When i'm done listening to these 2 i'll go check some more MJ shit. +1
Awesome, glad to hear you enjoyed them.
I've been bumpin' them nonstop and seriously, hot ass chicks have just been dancing with me because of it lately, it's gonna be a good summer....it's pretty dope.
also, just so you know...that's Paul Mccartney on the girl is mine, he also wrote the song 'girlfriend' on off the wall.
stevie wonder wrote the song 'i can't help it' from off the wall.
eddie van halen plays the guitar solo on 'beat it'.
also, I've yet to find any MJ albums that I like NEARLY as much as thriller and off the wall. "Bad" would have been the shit if it was made in the late 70s or early 80s but it's 87 so it's really 80s crapped out. there's some dope songs, but almost none are dope in the way that 'thriller' and 'off the wall' are dope.
I got The Jacksons' "Destiny" album (MJ's familys group album that dropped right before off the wall) and it's cool but Quincy didn't produce it, some sick songs, some whatever songs. I've been on the lookout for 'victory' and'triumph' by the jacksons, since they're from the 'thriller/OTW' era.
yeah dude, my favorite songs are:
P.Y.T.
Baby Be Mine
Billie Jean
Don't stop till you get enough
rock with you
off the wall
i can't help it
followed closely by
human nature
wanna be startin somethin
lady of my life
workin' day and night
the only songs I don't like are 'the girl is mine (i love the Beatles, but MJ wrote a corny ass song here, the one Paul wrote for MJ " girlfriend" is way better imo)and 'it's the falling in love' but even those songs work great in context if you're listening to the whole album.
also, if i were you i'd cop the anniversary editions cause they have demos and outtakes from both albums that are really good like the billie jean demo, the song carousel, don't stop till you get enough demo and workin day and night demo.
i''ve been looking for the PYT demo on the internet and have yet to find it but I know it's on a MJ box set. but I don't wanna buy the box set for one friggin song.
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Dre doesn't give a fuck when you're from. All he cares bout is if the person he works with got talent. He said in a 96 interview that he would work with someone from Afghanistan if he thinks that person is dope. And he has always been that way. The D.O.C was from Texas right?
And the Lady of Rage was from the East Coast too.
No. Dre will only work for someone if they are marketbale and can make him money.
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Yup, that's why Eve is on aftermath and Lady of Rage isn't.
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was on aftermath, whatever.
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was on aftermath, whatever.
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Guess Dre figured she won't make him any money... ;D ;D ;D ;D
but Just for kicks i'd like to see what more she can offer on a Dre beat Lyrically speaking.....
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Dre doesn't give a fuck when you're from. All he cares bout is if the person he works with got talent. He said in a 96 interview that he would work with someone from Afghanistan if he thinks that person is dope. And he has always been that way. The D.O.C was from Texas right? And the Lady of Rage was from the East Coast too.
goddammit, yes. dre is so much more expansive than a coast-regional-title and has been for some time (reaching all the way back to the 80's-90's) -- but it seems like no one even paid attention to how expansive he was until the westcoast fell out of the mainstream tornado eye.
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I heard Thriller twice now and Off The Wall 1 time, i'm impressed. The productions are soooooo tight on here, you were totally right about it. And his whole voice and style are really an addition to every track, man this shit is fuckin' classic. 8)
Many props for hooking me up with this shit, i doubt i would be listening to it right now if you didn't point it out. I really love these 2 albums (no homo). When i'm done listening to these 2 i'll go check some more MJ shit. +1
Awesome, glad to hear you enjoyed them.
I've been bumpin' them nonstop and seriously, hot ass chicks have just been dancing with me because of it lately, it's gonna be a good summer....it's pretty dope.
also, just so you know...that's Paul Mccartney on the girl is mine, he also wrote the song 'girlfriend' on off the wall.
stevie wonder wrote the song 'i can't help it' from off the wall.
eddie van halen plays the guitar solo on 'beat it'.
also, I've yet to find any MJ albums that I like NEARLY as much as thriller and off the wall. "Bad" would have been the shit if it was made in the late 70s or early 80s but it's 87 so it's really 80s crapped out. there's some dope songs, but almost none are dope in the way that 'thriller' and 'off the wall' are dope.
I got The Jacksons' "Destiny" album (MJ's familys group album that dropped right before off the wall) and it's cool but Quincy didn't produce it, some sick songs, some whatever songs. I've been on the lookout for 'victory' and'triumph' by the jacksons, since they're from the 'thriller/OTW' era.
yeah dude, my favorite songs are:
P.Y.T.
Baby Be Mine
Billie Jean
Don't stop till you get enough
rock with you
off the wall
i can't help it
followed closely by
human nature
wanna be startin somethin
lady of my life
workin' day and night
the only songs I don't like are 'the girl is mine (i love the Beatles, but MJ wrote a corny ass song here, the one Paul wrote for MJ " girlfriend" is way better imo)and 'it's the falling in love' but even those songs work great in context if you're listening to the whole album.
also, if i were you i'd cop the anniversary editions cause they have demos and outtakes from both albums that are really good like the billie jean demo, the song carousel, don't stop till you get enough demo and workin day and night demo.
i''ve been looking for the PYT demo on the internet and have yet to find it but I know it's on a MJ box set. but I don't wanna buy the box set for one friggin song.
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Yeah i know who Paul McCartney is, my dad always used to listen to him and i know some songs of him. I also know it was him on that track, but both albums are kinda short (only 9 or 10 tracks) maybe that is much better then these lang ass albums coming out nowadays with 21 tracks on it and 7 useless skits/interludes/etc. Older albums all have just quality music and that's it.
But yeah those 2 albums are really off the chain. 8)
The productions are really funky, like you said. It really sounds so smooth, kinda amazing when you're used to these recycled hiphop beats you hear nowadays, hehe.
Anyways what do you think of Paul McCartney's music? You like any albums?
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was on aftermath, whatever.
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Guess Dre figured she won't make him any money... ;D ;D ;D ;D
but Just for kicks i'd like to see what more she can offer on a Dre beat Lyrically speaking.....
Nah it was cause she wanted to do some Pop album and Dre wanted a gangster album so they parted ways.
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I heard Thriller twice now and Off The Wall 1 time, i'm impressed. The productions are soooooo tight on here, you were totally right about it. And his whole voice and style are really an addition to every track, man this shit is fuckin' classic. 8)
Many props for hooking me up with this shit, i doubt i would be listening to it right now if you didn't point it out. I really love these 2 albums (no homo). When i'm done listening to these 2 i'll go check some more MJ shit. +1
Awesome, glad to hear you enjoyed them.
I've been bumpin' them nonstop and seriously, hot ass chicks have just been dancing with me because of it lately, it's gonna be a good summer....it's pretty dope.
also, just so you know...that's Paul Mccartney on the girl is mine, he also wrote the song 'girlfriend' on off the wall.
stevie wonder wrote the song 'i can't help it' from off the wall.
eddie van halen plays the guitar solo on 'beat it'.
also, I've yet to find any MJ albums that I like NEARLY as much as thriller and off the wall. "Bad" would have been the shit if it was made in the late 70s or early 80s but it's 87 so it's really 80s crapped out. there's some dope songs, but almost none are dope in the way that 'thriller' and 'off the wall' are dope.
I got The Jacksons' "Destiny" album (MJ's familys group album that dropped right before off the wall) and it's cool but Quincy didn't produce it, some sick songs, some whatever songs. I've been on the lookout for 'victory' and'triumph' by the jacksons, since they're from the 'thriller/OTW' era.
yeah dude, my favorite songs are:
P.Y.T.
Baby Be Mine
Billie Jean
Don't stop till you get enough
rock with you
off the wall
i can't help it
followed closely by
human nature
wanna be startin somethin
lady of my life
workin' day and night
the only songs I don't like are 'the girl is mine (i love the Beatles, but MJ wrote a corny ass song here, the one Paul wrote for MJ " girlfriend" is way better imo)and 'it's the falling in love' but even those songs work great in context if you're listening to the whole album.
also, if i were you i'd cop the anniversary editions cause they have demos and outtakes from both albums that are really good like the billie jean demo, the song carousel, don't stop till you get enough demo and workin day and night demo.
i''ve been looking for the PYT demo on the internet and have yet to find it but I know it's on a MJ box set. but I don't wanna buy the box set for one friggin song.
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Yeah i know who Paul McCartney is, my dad always used to listen to him and i know some songs of him. I also know it was him on that track, but both albums are kinda short (only 9 or 10 tracks) maybe that is much better then these lang ass albums coming out nowadays with 21 tracks on it and 7 useless skits/interludes/etc. Older albums all have just quality music and that's it.
But yeah those 2 albums are really off the chain. 8)
The productions are really funky, like you said. It really sounds so smooth, kinda amazing when you're used to these recycled hiphop beats you hear nowadays, hehe.
Anyways what do you think of Paul McCartney's music? You like any albums?
I'm such a big Beatles fan it's ridiculous. Paul Mccartney is my favorite bassist. I have most of their work from 1965 and after.
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When Bishop Lamont makes an alum I'm sure Dre will be on it