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Title: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Tha Crip on June 06, 2007, 12:33:34 AM
Im a huge fan of both these guys and im just curious who yall think is the better MC....and also who here think it would be dope if these 2 did a track or 2 together?
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: toebee on June 06, 2007, 12:57:59 AM
i know bishop is very dope but i think knoc is better
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on June 06, 2007, 02:15:56 AM
personally I would say Bishop but yea I'd love to see both of them on a track together.
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Lord Funk on June 06, 2007, 02:24:59 AM
Knoc is probably the more diverse performer, in that he can sing hooks, but as far as MCing in the traditiional sense of the term, I've got to go with Bishop. His voice, flow and importantly lyrics are all much better than Knoc's in my opinion.
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Blu Lacez on June 06, 2007, 03:53:58 AM
Knoc is probably the more diverse performer, in that he can sing hooks, but as far as MCing in the traditiional sense of the term, I've got to go with Bishop. His voice, flow and importantly lyrics are all much better than Knoc's in my opinion.

I coulda have put it better!!
well Said Lord funk!!
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: XaNdEr on June 06, 2007, 04:50:11 AM
Word up, i gotta go with Bishop, i don't think they would sound good together on 1 track though.
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Iliveinthefuture on June 06, 2007, 05:05:14 AM
even with an album out wackturnal can't compete with the bishop  8)
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Darksider on June 06, 2007, 05:39:26 AM
i like bishoop better as a rapper and mc ..but knock is is a dope hooksinger :-\
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: XaNdEr on June 06, 2007, 06:37:20 AM
even with an album out wackturnal can't compete with the bishop  8)


Lmao, don't hate, Knoc >>> You.  :D
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Eddie G. on June 06, 2007, 08:33:56 AM
I think Bishop is better, even though I really like Knoc's unique flow and all that.
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: shay on June 06, 2007, 08:49:35 AM
had to go with bishop  8)

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Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Lunatic on June 06, 2007, 01:03:26 PM
lol y'all already know who i voted. All in all, I like Knoc's total package (no homo) more then bishop's. Knoc by FAR is better hooksinger, I like his voice better and his flow as well. Bishop got the better lyrics, but when Knoc is focused his lyrics can be dope as fuck as well. Y'all know that shit is real, the source (eastcoast magazine) called Knoc an MC 8)

i'd like to see them on a track together. Maybe for the detox :)
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: XaNdEr on June 06, 2007, 11:43:31 PM
Yes but Knoc usually only raps about bitches and weed, that's pretty limited for a rapper. And the argument that he is a Westcoast rapper doesn't change anything to that. ALL rappers should be able to have diverse lyrics wether you're from the West, East or South.

People are bashing the South for their "simplicity" in lyrics but the West is basically the same, it's always "gangsta", "gangbanging", "weed" and "bitches". The East is way more diverse, for every Jim Jones there there is also a Nas and for every 50 Cent there's a Guru. So yeah, back to the topic, from what i heard of Bishop this far he is way more diverse then Knoc if you look at lyrics.


Like you said the hooks belong to Knoc for sure though.  8)
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Paul on June 07, 2007, 09:58:03 AM
Knoc is probably the more diverse performer, in that he can sing hooks, but as far as MCing in the traditiional sense of the term, I've got to go with Bishop. His voice, flow and importantly lyrics are all much better than Knoc's in my opinion.


well said, i voted knoc cause hes released a great album whereas bishop hasnt released anything yet
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Lunatic on June 07, 2007, 12:43:15 PM
Yes but Knoc usually only raps about bitches and weed, that's pretty limited for a rapper. And the argument that he is a Westcoast rapper doesn't change anything to that. ALL rappers should be able to have diverse lyrics wether you're from the West, East or South.

People are bashing the South for their "simplicity" in lyrics but the West is basically the same, it's always "gangsta", "gangbanging", "weed" and "bitches". The East is way more diverse, for every Jim Jones there there is also a Nas and for every 50 Cent there's a Guru. So yeah, back to the topic, from what i heard of Bishop this far he is way more diverse then Knoc if you look at lyrics.


Like you said the hooks belong to Knoc for sure though.  8)

knoc has also made some very deep tracks. Listen to Your Only Son, What Is Life, Until The Day, My Dream, Inpsiration, If I Could and so on. Granted yes he has way more "gangsta" songs then those, but to say he hasn't shown diversity is not true. And at the end of day Bishop is still more diverse, but i was just pointing out Knoc has done them type of tracks as well

I also think that people are forgetting how hyped they where over knoc when he was 1st coming out, and that's the reason Bishop is winning this poll. If this was like 2000, and both dudes where blowing up at the same stage, and this poll was created, Knoc would be winning, or it would at least be really close
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Tanjential on June 07, 2007, 01:24:49 PM
Knoc is like snoop
Bishop is like Nas

Knoc is a musician, Bishop is a poet MC

apples and oranges

Knoc is about SOUNDING good and he does sound better than Bishop but Bishop is about speaking real and MCing. That said, Bishop's a better MC, but I think Knoc's a better performer/musician.

-T
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: XaNdEr on June 07, 2007, 11:00:07 PM
Tanji i don't know how you do it but you always seem to put it right into it's place, lol. Props for your post.  8)
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Okka on June 07, 2007, 11:08:34 PM
voted: Knoc


Knoc got alot of classic songs, and i've never liked Bishop...
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: dameons on June 07, 2007, 11:13:13 PM
Knoc had REAL talent that was recognized by the Doctor, but under achieved like Shade Sheist and Short Khop..
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: XaNdEr on June 08, 2007, 12:20:30 AM
Word up, Shade Sheist, Hittman, Knoc-Turn'al, Mr. Short Khop all fall in the same sort, flopped talents.
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Tanjential on June 08, 2007, 02:19:45 AM
for the record, I don't like Knoc's hook on the J wells album, it kinda messes up how dope the beat is.

-T
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: DRYLBC on June 08, 2007, 02:32:50 AM
gotta go with bishop


 8)
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Fatdodger on June 08, 2007, 11:16:09 AM
Knoc is better to me just that he doesnt really get chances like bishop but Knocturnal
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: T-Dogg on June 08, 2007, 12:04:09 PM
Bishop for me, hands down. Knoc is cool, but sometimes his flow seems a bit off, you know? He can come dope though, like on Bang Bang or whatever, but Bishop's been on point more of the time. Plus, Bishop's got better lyrics, so he gets my vote.

Just wish the album would drop already though.
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Tha Chemist on June 08, 2007, 01:45:48 PM
as an MC its easily Bishop Lamont, but Kokane has more variety in his styles overall
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Paul on June 08, 2007, 01:51:20 PM
as an MC its easily Bishop Lamont, but Kokane has more variety in his styles overall

lol
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Tanjential on June 08, 2007, 06:18:12 PM
Knoc is better to me just that he doesnt really get chances like bishop but Knocturnal

I think Knoc's had way more chances than Bishop

Bishop for me, hands down. Knoc is cool, but sometimes his flow seems a bit off, you know? He can come dope though, like on Bang Bang or whatever, but Bishop's been on point more of the time. Plus, Bishop's got better lyrics, so he gets my vote.

Just wish the album would drop already though.
Knoc's flow is intentionally off, from what I can tell, it's kind of a cool device.

-T
Title: Re: Bishop Lamont or Knoc-Turn'al [Whos a better MC]
Post by: Lunatic on June 08, 2007, 08:48:10 PM
Knoc is better to me just that he doesnt really get chances like bishop but Knocturnal

I think Knoc's had way more chances than Bishop

Bishop for me, hands down. Knoc is cool, but sometimes his flow seems a bit off, you know? He can come dope though, like on Bang Bang or whatever, but Bishop's been on point more of the time. Plus, Bishop's got better lyrics, so he gets my vote.

Just wish the album would drop already though.
Knoc's flow is intentionally off, from what I can tell, it's kind of a cool device.

-T

yup intentioally off