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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Lord Funk on June 07, 2007, 07:19:18 AM
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Overweight Latino with above-average rapping ability? I'm convinced.
All we need is some 'candid camera' footage of old boy smacking the shit out of his wife with a pistol and it's a done deal as far as I'm concerned.
I'm just saying.
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Yeah the brotha is ill on the mic. I am bumping Bodega right now. This album is LIGHT YEARS ahead of 95% of what is coming out right now. I hope Dre does not drop the ball on him when it is his time for a big budget album.
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Hmmm. You're absolutely right, but unfortunately the one thing that struck me when bumping this album (and I've been on it solidly, no homo, for about three weeks) is that it's the kind of CD Aftermath and Interscope would never release.
I'd say that when his Aftermath album drops (if it does), expect less 'Hip-Hop' and more 'I Love My Chick'. Sad, but I'd wager almost certainly true.
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True. I think Joell is diverse enough to pull it off but I would only want it for a couple of tracks. His strength is lyricism but like you said I think Interscope would have a image and vision they feel he should be. Artists like him are extinct on major labels and go unoticed most of the time.
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Dude is like a mix between Pun & Ghostface imo....deadly combo 8)
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when i heard 125 grams that was it
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The best I've heard in a long while....I hope Dre does not try to make him talk all that gangsta shit because you can tell that is not who he is and he is ok just rappin about everyday shit in the hood...If his shit does not drop on Aftermath by next year this time, I hope he is able to bounce before his buzz is gone.
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Yeah the brotha is ill on the mic. I am bumping Bodega right now. This album is LIGHT YEARS ahead of 95% of what is coming out right now. I hope Dre does not drop the ball on him when it is his time for a big budget album.
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The best I've heard in a long while....I hope Dre does not try to make him talk all that gangsta shit because you can tell that is not who he is and he is ok just rappin about everyday shit in the hood...If his shit does not drop on Aftermath by next year this time, I hope he is able to bounce before his buzz is gone.
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i wouldnt call pun a above average rapper, dude was sick lyrically and had very possibly the best breathe control ever, dude weighed 3700 pounds and could spit that rapid fire flow. I wouldnt say Ortiz is better then Pun, but he is dope in his own right. His content is a breathe of fresh air tho
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Yeah the brotha is ill on the mic. I am bumping Bodega right now. This album is LIGHT YEARS ahead of 95% of what is coming out right now. I hope Dre does not drop the ball on him when it is his time for a big budget album.
He probably will...the kids dope though, wish him the best
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i wouldnt call pun a above average rapper, dude was sick lyrically and had very possibly the best breathe control ever, dude weighed 3700 pounds and could spit that rapid fire flow. I wouldnt say Ortiz is better then Pun, but he is dope in his own right. His content is a breathe of fresh air tho
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i wouldnt call pun a above average rapper, dude was sick lyrically and had very possibly the best breathe control ever, dude weighed 3700 pounds and could spit that rapid fire flow. I wouldnt say Ortiz is better then Pun, but he is dope in his own right. His content is a breathe of fresh air tho
+1
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Dunno about the Pun comparison, I'd rather judge rappers for themselves than compare them to others, but I definately agree that Ortiz is someone to expect dope material from. I haven't heard all of his Brick album, but what I have heard from it and from mixtapes is dope, no doubt.
Whenever he gets around to making his Dre album, I hope it'll be basically the same lyrical heat with the best Dre production. None those marketing singles that pull the masses in, just something for the hip-hop heads, just like it's been so far.
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Dunno about the Pun comparison, I'd rather judge rappers for themselves than compare them to others, but I definately agree that Ortiz is someone to expect dope material from. I haven't heard all of his Brick album, but what I have heard from it and from mixtapes is dope, no doubt.
Whenever he gets around to making his Dre album, I hope it'll be basically the same lyrical heat with the best Dre production. None those marketing singles that pull the masses in, just something for the hip-hop heads, just like it's been so far.
Yup, although I highly doubt that Interscope will ever release an album through Aftermath that doesn't have a commercial-appealing single...
But yeah, Ortiz is dope!
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Imo Big Pun was very limited as a rapper, his lyrics were aight but hewas breeathing like a fuckin' horse on his tracks, that really spoiled many of his could-be classics, plus i think Joell Ortiz is a much better MC cause he is able to adapt to different topics with the same style and come cool with all of his songs, no matter what topic it's about.
Of course we will have to wait for his Aftermath debut to really judge this for the full 100% (if he can come up with interesting yet commercial lyrics) but what i heard this far has really impressed me.
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Imo Big Pun was very limited as a rapper, his lyrics were aight but hewas breeathing like a fuckin' horse on his tracks, that really spoiled many of his could-be classics, plus i think Joell Ortiz is a much better MC cause he is able to adapt to different topics with the same style and come cool with all of his songs, no matter what topic it's about.
Of course we will have to wait for his Aftermath debut to really judge this for the full 100% (if he can come up with interesting yet commercial lyrics) but what i heard this far has really impressed me.
Hmm, i completely disagree about Pun. I thought he was one of the most well rounded mcs ever. He could get away withmaking a club joint absolutly no problem (look at its so hard, one of my favourite tracks) but Pun was HARDCORE AS FUCK when he wanted 2 be. Forget the name of the track but hes basically rapping about killing people with chainsaws the entire track. I dont remember too many beefs (not including the little shots he took at 50) but i would bet my last dollar not 2 many rappers woud want 2 get in a lyrical battle with Pun.
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Haven't listened to Joell Ortiz. Aftermath hasn't interested me in years. If somebody has something upped on zshare I'd like to hear it. And Pun was a great MC. Ill flow and could spit multi's right along w/ the all time greats like G Rap, AZ, etc.
And like I said, I haven't heard dude, but just cuz he's latino or whatever doesn't make him Pun. Let him stand on his own ground.
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just cuz he's latino or whatever doesn't make him Pun. Let him stand on his own ground.
I'd hoped that the whole tone of my first post would make it clear that I was kinda playing around with the 'ignorant' comparison.
Nevertheless, the dude is certainly the best 'MC' on Aftermath at the moment, unless there's ever some miraculous turnaround in Eminem, which I highly doubt.
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@ Jrome: you can download Ortiz' album "The Brick" from albumbase.com: you're missing out on something!