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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 11, 2007, 12:19:29 PM
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Marion is definitely leaving Phoenix this summer...Celtics are looking like the biggest possibility.
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Boston is also looking at Jason Richardson as well, for a similar deal...I definitely think either Richardson or Marion will end up in Boston soon.
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celtics would be getting robbed. marion is an efficient player, but hes gonna be absolutely useless in their offense unless someone is creating shots for him. without delonte west and a 5th pick, that means its up to paul pierce to do just that
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^^I agree...They're better off going for Richardson. I heard the proposal for that one was 5th pick, Theo Ratliff, and Sebastian Telfair, which is a better package for Boston to give up...Boston should keep Delonte...PeACe
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I don't understand why PHX would want to break up their team
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^cuz what they got now isnt working
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^cuz what they got now isnt working
Oh really? That's why they would have probably won the Championship if Horry had not checked Nash?
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why would the W's do that deal for J-Rich
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the phoenix owner hates being over the salary cap. they're slowly coming to terms that they'll probably need a slight change to give them the final push over the other elite postseason teams on the west, and since marions makin 15-16 mill for the next few seasons, he becomes expendable.
as for the richardson trade, if i was boston i STILL wouldn't do it. i know they would like to clear up capspace with theo ratliff and whatnot, but who knows, maybe brandan wright will fall to #5 (assuming atlanta doesn't trade their pick, because they are getting fed up with drafting forwards). and even if they dont get wright, horford or yi jianlian doesnt sound bad at all.
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The Celtics are offering that same deal to the Sonics for Rashard Lewis. I hope they get him.
C - Al Jefferson
PF - Rashard Lewis
SF - Gerald Wallace
SG - Paul Pierce
PG - Rajon Rondo
^ A lot of talent, but not sure how far they can make it.
^cuz what they got now isnt working
Oh really? That's why they would have probably won the Championship if Horry had not checked Nash?
Get the fuck outta here. Phoenix lost 3 years in a row. If your team is that good and can't make it to the Finals you have to make some changes. Too bad the Suns can't dump Nash and somehow get Chris Paul.
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^cuz what they got now isnt working
Oh really? That's why they would have probably won the Championship if Horry had not checked Nash?
Get the fuck outta here. Phoenix lost 3 years in a row. If your team is that good and can't make it to the Finals you have to make some changes. Too bad the Suns can't dump Nash and somehow get Chris Paul.
LOL.
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The Celtics are offering that same deal to the Sonics for Rashard Lewis. I hope they get him.
C - Al Jefferson
PF - Rashard Lewis
SF - Gerald Wallace
SG - Paul Pierce
PG - Rajon Rondo
^ A lot of talent, but not sure how far they can make it.
^cuz what they got now isnt working
Oh really? That's why they would have probably won the Championship if Horry had not checked Nash?
Get the fuck outta here. Phoenix lost 3 years in a row. If your team is that good and can't make it to the Finals you have to make some changes. Too bad the Suns can't dump Nash and somehow get Chris Paul.
Nash is getting older, but somehow dude has been getting better every year the past 5 years!? CP is DOPE, one of my favourites, but he isn't touching Nash yet. If the goal is to win the title now, keep Nash, if its to win later, Paul and Stoudemire would be sick together.
And well they won't miss Marion on offense, his defensive play was integral to the Suns...........
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^cuz what they got now isnt working
Oh really? That's why they would have probably won the Championship if Horry had not checked Nash?
LMFAO...
7even...The reality is, Phoenix can't contend and Marion is very unhappy...What don't you understand?
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why would the W's do that deal for J-Rich
Pretty sure it's a salary dump....
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The Celtics are offering that same deal to the Sonics for Rashard Lewis. I hope they get him.
C - Al Jefferson
PF - Rashard Lewis
SF - Gerald Wallace
SG - Paul Pierce
PG - Rajon Rondo
^ A lot of talent, but not sure how far they can make it.
^cuz what they got now isnt working
Oh really? That's why they would have probably won the Championship if Horry had not checked Nash?
Get the fuck outta here. Phoenix lost 3 years in a row. If your team is that good and can't make it to the Finals you have to make some changes. Too bad the Suns can't dump Nash and somehow get Chris Paul.
Nash is getting older, but somehow dude has been getting better every year the past 5 years!? CP is DOPE, one of my favourites, but he isn't touching Nash yet. If the goal is to win the title now, keep Nash, if its to win later, Paul and Stoudemire would be sick together.
And well they won't miss Marion on offense, his defensive play was integral to the Suns...........
LMAO@Shawn Marion's defense being "integral".
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I'm sure this rumor originated from The Sports Guy's chat today:
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Paul (Auburn NY): What are your thoughts on the trade rumors involing Shawn Marion to the Celtics for the fifth pick, theo ratliff and one of the guards?
Bill Simmons: I don't think it makes any sense for Phoenix. if they trade Marion or Stoudemire, the goal would be to get under the tax. Well, how does Ratliff's contract help? Yeah, it expires next summer, but it still counts on the cap this year... and he's adamant that he's not retiring. So that trade makes no sense. If they deal Marion, it has to be to a team under the cap that can absorb most/all of his contract, like Atlanta or Charlotte. For instance, if Atlanta offered the No. 11 pick, Josh Childress and Marvin Williams, that could work.
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Marion def feels like he's not getting the shine he deserves. I'm pretty sure he's gonna be gone this offseason.
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^ the problem with Marion is that he fuckin sucks without a true PG. Great player, but the guy needs to be spoon fed. Notice he's never really had to play without Penny, Kidd, or Nash.
I hope they do trade him for expiring contracts and draft picks. The sooner that team falls apart, the easier it'll be for the Lakers to get back to owning the Pacific Division.
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^ the problem with Marion is that he fuckin sucks without a true PG. Great player, but the guy needs to be spoon fed. Notice he's never really had to play without Penny, Kidd, or Nash.
I hope they do trade him for expiring contracts and draft picks. The sooner that team falls apart, the easier it'll be for the Lakers to get back to owning the Pacific Division.
GREAT players don't need to be spoon fed...PeACe
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^ the problem with Marion is that he fuckin sucks without a true PG. Great player, but the guy needs to be spoon fed. Notice he's never really had to play without Penny, Kidd, or Nash.
I hope they do trade him for expiring contracts and draft picks. The sooner that team falls apart, the easier it'll be for the Lakers to get back to owning the Pacific Division.
GREAT players don't need to be spoon fed...PeACe
True but Marion isn't great because of his scoring. He rebounds, blocks shots, gets steals, and plays defense on every position.
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this is definately going to be an interesting offseason.
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I've been hearing Zach Randolph for #5 and Ratliff, but I don't think Ainge wants to deal with Portland ever again after the Roy situation and now with Portland landing #1.
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Why the hell would the celtics want Zach Randolph? He's just Al Jefferson with a bad attitude and a huge contract.
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LMAO@Laker-fans hating on the Suns claiming they didn't contend this season ::)
LMAO@Owners in the NBA being too broke to spend 70 mil on their team per year :loser:
LMAO@Marion thinking he doesn't get the shine he deserves and that he could make it BIG on a sucky team :camp:
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^ the problem with Marion is that he fuckin sucks without a true PG. Great player, but the guy needs to be spoon fed. Notice he's never really had to play without Penny, Kidd, or Nash.
I hope they do trade him for expiring contracts and draft picks. The sooner that team falls apart, the easier it'll be for the Lakers to get back to owning the Pacific Division.
GREAT players don't need to be spoon fed...PeACe
True but Marion isn't great because of his scoring. He rebounds, blocks shots, gets steals, and plays defense on every position.
Marion is a LeBron James/Dwyane Wade type defender...weakside steals and blocks, but can't stay in front of his man and sucks overall on D. He went from slightly underrated, to extremely overrated as a player...I feel bad for any team that trades for him...PeACe
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LMAO@Laker-fans hating on the Suns claiming they didn't contend this season ::)
LMAO@Owners in the NBA being too broke to spend 70 mil on their team per year :loser:
LMAO@Marion thinking he doesn't get the shine he deserves and that he could make it BIG on a sucky team :camp:
ROFLMFAO@you thinking the Suns can beat the Spurs in 7.
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Marions got one of the napiest shots i've ever seen
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LMAO@Laker-fans hating on the Suns claiming they didn't contend this season ::)
LMAO@Owners in the NBA being too broke to spend 70 mil on their team per year :loser:
LMAO@Marion thinking he doesn't get the shine he deserves and that he could make it BIG on a sucky team :camp:
ROFLMFAO@you thinking the Suns can beat the Spurs in 7.
Never hate your enemies, it affects your judgement. Ya dig? Your hate for the Suns is blinding you. Without the suspensions, they would have probably won Game 5, with a Game 7 in PHX left. All their chances to beat the Spurs. If you can beat the Spurs you can beat Utah and Cleveland, too. To say they can't contend is laughable.
Also, trading Marion for West and a pick won't improve the team. They won't contend with this squad either. Waiting for the pick to develop is laughable as Nash is 33.
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"There is speculation around the league about a possible deal with Seattle that would bring forward Rashard Lewis to Boston.
Lewis reportedly is good friends with Gerald Green and would consent to the deal if Green is not a part of the package. Robert Swift also could be in the mix. Ainge has coveted Swift in the past."
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The Celtics are offering that same deal to the Sonics for Rashard Lewis. I hope they get him.
C - Al Jefferson
PF - Rashard Lewis
SF - Gerald Wallace
SG - Paul Pierce
PG - Rajon Rondo
^ A lot of talent, but not sure how far they can make it.
^cuz what they got now isnt working
Oh really? That's why they would have probably won the Championship if Horry had not checked Nash?
Get the fuck outta here. Phoenix lost 3 years in a row. If your team is that good and can't make it to the Finals you have to make some changes. Too bad the Suns can't dump Nash and somehow get Chris Paul.
G. Wallace is a Bobcat or i miss something... Maybe you want to say G. Green
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LMAO@Laker-fans hating on the Suns claiming they didn't contend this season ::)
LMAO@Owners in the NBA being too broke to spend 70 mil on their team per year :loser:
LMAO@Marion thinking he doesn't get the shine he deserves and that he could make it BIG on a sucky team :camp:
ROFLMFAO@you thinking the Suns can beat the Spurs in 7.
Never hate your enemies, it affects your judgement. Ya dig? Your hate for the Suns is blinding you. Without the suspensions, they would have probably won Game 5, with a Game 7 in PHX left. All their chances to beat the Spurs. If you can beat the Spurs you can beat Utah and Cleveland, too. To say they can't contend is laughable.
Also, trading Marion for West and a pick won't improve the team. They won't contend with this squad either. Waiting for the pick to develop is laughable as Nash is 33.
Are you joking? They CANT contend with the style, man. They've had 3 seasons with the same team, where they were on top of their game, and each season ended in disappointment. What does that tell you? I GUARANTEED Phoenix wouldnt win the championship this year, and I'll GUARANTEE it as long as they're playing the same system...Fucking Denver could win a series against Phoenix. Clippers and Lakers take them to 7 games...The Horry bump did nothing, Spurs woulda' won either way. Claim whatever you want, but it's pathetic. ANYONE can see the Spurs are superior this season...PeACe
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The Celtics are offering that same deal to the Sonics for Rashard Lewis. I hope they get him.
C - Al Jefferson
PF - Rashard Lewis
SF - Gerald Wallace
SG - Paul Pierce
PG - Rajon Rondo
^ A lot of talent, but not sure how far they can make it.
G. Wallace is a Bobcat or i miss something... Maybe you want to say G. Green
Lol good catch. Yeah I meant to say Gerald Green.
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The Celtics are offering that same deal to the Sonics for Rashard Lewis. I hope they get him.
C - Al Jefferson
PF - Rashard Lewis
SF - Gerald Wallace
SG - Paul Pierce
PG - Rajon Rondo
^ A lot of talent, but not sure how far they can make it.
G. Wallace is a Bobcat or i miss something... Maybe you want to say G. Green
Lol good catch. Yeah I meant to say Gerald Green.
LOL@Gerald Green playing the 3 and Paul Pierce playing the 2. :-X
Have you watched the Celtics?
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The Celtics better have an above average point guard to help Marion get his numbers.
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Marion is a player who struggles to create his own shot and thrives on fast breaks and alley-oops... Phx in the Nash-era fits him really good... dude is fucking weird being unhappy and shit :-X
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dude is fucking weird being unhappy and shit :-X
I agree...The dumbass probably thinks he's an MVP caliber player because he's been in some (undeserved) MVP talks in the past. If he gets traded, he probably wont even make the all-star team.
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Damn Nik, can you ever give the Suns ANY due. The series was tied 2-2 when Diaw and Amare both got suspended, and they only lost 88-85 in game 5. If the suns win they're up 3-2 and got a game 7 in PHX if neccessary. The Spurs are gonna sweep the Cavs this year so what do you think the Suns would have done, saying they didn't contend this year is just too fucking biased, c'mon man don't let your hate get in the way of your judgement
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Damn Nik, can you ever give the Suns ANY due. The series was tied 2-2 when Diaw and Amare both got suspended, and they only lost 88-85 in game 5. If the suns win they're up 3-2 and got a game 7 in PHX if neccessary. The Spurs are gonna sweep the Cavs this year so what do you think the Suns would have done, saying they didn't contend this year is just too fucking biased, c'mon man don't let your hate get in the way of your judgement
Sorry, but there is no way the Suns beat a team like the Spurs in 7...PeACe
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Latest rumor in the Marion saga is that Phoenix is discussing a Marion-for-Jamison swap with Washington...That would be a steal for Phoenix.
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DAMN, I thought they were all cool with each other down there in Phoenix. I guess they are really going to trade Marion.