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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Doggystylin on August 19, 2001, 03:24:08 AM
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ive heard a lot of opinions on ja rule, jay-z, nas but i never hear anyone talk about DMX. so what yall think of him? hate him, like him. what yall hate about him. what yall like about him?
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i just want to clear of few things up before i tear into him
i don't hate dmx i just see through his image
ok first of all when dmx was first starting out his whole style was different as hell, he wasn't on any of this emotionally tortured soul/sensitive thug thing that he took from pac....he was on some gothic rap shit, that wasn't getting him anywhere ...so he had to leach onto what would get him imediate success
you see dmx didn't get any popularity until pac died...everybody in the industry was mourning his losss and of corse people who loved pac are going to flauk to a second rate version... which dmx is, his whole thing is a pac blueprint for success, and most of his fans are fans who loved pac
but besides that the reason why i don't get into dmx's music, is that they lack lyrical creativity and becuase his flow is more choppy than a chinese chef with some onions and a butcher's knife
his first album was a pretty good well packaged and marketed album when it first came out i woulda gave him 4 mics maybe 4.5 becuase the tracks were catchy and the beats were fresh...at the time....but now it's really just 3 mic novelty becuase it gets old after a while ....then his second album is a horrible mess and his 3rd was just a corprate record (3 radio singles) and the rest was filler
in my opinion dmx is just a corprate rapper....a well crafted well marketed hard core rapper molded from a sucessful gimack...in my eyez he's no better than nelly...he just raps more profanities and has a deeper voice
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I Love his 1st album.
His 2nd was so so.
His 3rd was mainly Ballz.
From what i've heard his 4th album should be good (i hope) coz he's suppose to go back to his original album style.
Anyway to answer the question, when he came out he was good now he is ballz.
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Never felt anything DMX ever put out, its like Jake said 'i dont hate him i just see through his image', and as for the Ruff Riders, i aint got no love for them either...
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HE IZ ONE OF THA MOST ANOYIN RPPAZ IN DA INDUSTRY FO SHO.....
.....I PROBlY THINK OF HIM WHAT BIGJAKE THINKS OF JIGGA....NUF SAID(LOL...SHORT AND TO THA POINT)
....HE IZ COPYIN PAc...than he iz dissin pac...than he iz sayin pac waz a saint....
...PRASTITUTE.....ANYWAYZ....HIZ MENEGIN DOEZ A GREAT JOB THO.....PIPZ DAT IZ USUALY LIKIN ROCK...IZ STARTIN TO LIKE HIM TOO....
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his first cd is the best, but i think that he made 3 versions of the same album. his flow get annoying 2 when you on track 13 or some shit like that
KIG
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i like dmx...i thought his third cd was looked too much at those 3 singles which sucked...there were some quality tracks on there but i really don't have the time to elaborate...his second album wasn't very well put together possibly because it was released the same year as his debut but i still liked it...his first cd was close to a gem imo but not classic...as for dmx tryin to be like pac i wouldn't say so...i've watched backstage and all them dudes on there say dmx is the most street grimy person you will meet...so when he talks about the streets he ain't bullshitten...i've also heard a new song by dmx on the radio yesterday and it sounded good, nothing amazing, but nothing clubbish which is good...oh yeah and i also really liked "ain't no sunshine", peace.
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He's aight, I like his tha shit he raps about, reminds me of pac, but he lacks Pac's lyricall attacks. He's gotta come out wit more diversity. Dats all.
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What do I think?
I think he barks too much. It may be his little trademark or gimmick but it is hella annoying.
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IMO he's aight. I can see where peeps b talking about him resembling Pac as he has that deep steady flow but like tha7th said he lacks Pac's lyrical skills. He comes across as fake as IMO he tries a l'il 2 hard with that raw street image. I own all his albums & the first is no doubt his best effort, it was fresh & dynamic at the time but like Jake said it fades. He's pretty average when it comes 2 lyrical content but IMO he CAN pack heat.
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HES OK....
SOME OF HIS SHIT IS WAAAAY 2 REPETITIVE BUT HIS LAST ALBUM 'AND THEN THERE WAS X' WASNT 2 BAD, IN FACT I RATHER LIKED IT
- KENNEL (AHHHHHHHHMORE DOGS!!)
- ONE MORE ROAD 2 CROSS (GOOD TRACK, LIKE THE CHORUS AND ITS FLOW 2 THE VERSES HIS RHYME IS COO 2)
- THE PROFESIONAL (NOT BAD - NOTHIN SPECIAL)
- FAME (THE BARKIN IS GAY! - BUT THE SONG IS UPBEAT AND GUD)
- HERE WE GO AGAIN (THIS IS A VERY GOOD TRACK BUT ITS CONTRIDICTARY - AT THE START HE RANTS ABOUT IT NOT BEIN A GAME THEN SEZ LATER BOUT THE RULES OF THE GAME!! - I KNOW HE MEANS GAME AS IN THE LIFESTYLE BUT THERE ARE BETTER WAYS OF EXPRESSION!!
- PARTY UP (UP TEMPO - PARTY TUNE! - I LIKE THIS TRACK COS OF THE BEAT - TO MUCH SHOUTIN THO!)
- MAKE A MOVE (FAST RHYMIN, AND FLOWS WELL)
- WHAT THESE... (VERY FRIENDLY SONG TO HELP THE ALBUM - ITS NOT BAD, BUT I HATE SISQOS WAILIN!)
- WHATS MY NAME (WAAAAAY 2 MUCH SHOUTIN!)
- MORE 2 A SONG (DONT LIKE THIS - DUNNO Y)
- DONT U EVER (DONT LIKE THIS EITHER)
- D-X-L (I HATE THIS SONG!!!!!)
- COMIN 4 YA (NOT BAD - RHYME WAS OK BUT THE BEAT SPOILS IT IMO)
- PRAYER III (BOLLOCKS - HE SHOUTS THE LAST WORD OF EACH LINE LIKE THE BEASTIE BOYS!)
- ANGEL (SHIT LIKE THIS MAKES MY RESPECT DMX COS HE CAN SWITCH CONTENT AND FLOW LIKE PAC BUT HE DOSNT HAVE THE PERSONA OR STYLE OF PAC)
- GOOD GIRLS, BAD GUYS (IM REALLY UNDECIDED BOUT THIS, ITS NOT BAD BUT I HATE THE CHORUS - I LIKE THE WAY DYME AND X TRADE LINES)
peace
HE SHOUTS 2 MUCH THO!!
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He's OK...
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DMX Is Dope!
Well Used To Be...
Hopefully His New Joint Will Be Dope But It Looks Like It Ain't...
I'm Still On That CLASSIC It's Dark And Hell Is Hot...That Joint Is Still In My Regular Rotation! That's My Man's And Them!
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ok just like Jake said hes a fake Pac he cant flow like PAc he talk Pac's blueprint to sucess the whole Ride Or Die Pac Started the praying and all that deep thug stuff all Pac if Pac hadnt died DMX would have never got popular but now people are startin to see that hes fake hes not hard.I never felt anything he dropped and personaly I think he should call it quits. As far as the Ruff Ryders go they are wack with the exceptions of Jadakiss and Eve all those other niggaz can suck a fat dick
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this isnt aimed at jake im just responding to all yall and givin yall my opinion
well you put him on the same level as nelly huh. DMX doesnt have the pop half singing album like nelly does and you gotta admit X's lyrics are better than nelly's. and of course everyone wants succes so i gues he had to do something to get there. and this guy has never bragged about his car ,money, ice like nelly, CMR, jigga, does. this guy is always wearin a dog chain and some pants. so i wouldnt put him on that level but not on Snoop's level either.
i think hes ok but better than a lot of other shit out there. and you cant just say hes the only one who bites pac and you dont like him for that cause everyone wants to be like him or bites him or uses him for succes , nas, jigga, lil zane,Ja Rule, No limit, tha realest, DR and a lot more people have i just cant remember. and ya know everyone bites him.
and X has a lot of real songs which a lot of other rappers dont.and X talks about a lot of real shit.and hes signed to a reall succesfull label so ya know they want their artist succesfull so their gonna market it. so many rappers out there today are so fake and putting him on the same level just isnt right but thats just your(anyone) opinion. if ya just feel him then i gues you dont. i cant do anything about it. but if you dont like him cause of his info and biting pac thats bullshit cause you cant say " i dont like x cause hes just like pac and has a bald head and runs around without a shirt like him". DMX is nothing compared to pac.
some of you just dont like him cause of his mtv commercial succes but yall should listen to his music deeper. as i said before if ya don feel him then ohwell thats your opinion. and this is just mine. he might not be the best rapper out there but i wouldnt say he sucks.
Peace
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why do u guyz complain about X's lyrical ability but then turn around and praise Warren G? Snoop? Bone Thugs [not Bizzy]? they all are pretty much the same lyrically but Warren is str8 weak on the mic...
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what does DMX stand for?
and what does he rapping about dogs all the time??
that make me feel like he is jacking snoop's and tha dpg's style...
and then he calls himself X, just like xzibit, thats just make it more weird...
and then we got that with 2pac...
i dont know much about him, but the music is aight..regular eastcoast main stream...
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dayum i would put dmx above snoop now anyday, peace.
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DMX is alright, he isn't a great lyricist but he's got alot of energy...His stage presence is great, he get's the crowd hype better than any MC out there...He sells more records than any rapper other than Eminem so he has a pretty large fan base...I don't own any of his albums though, but I heard his first two...First one was dope, second one was garbage to me...
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his first album was good but the others were lackin the fresh feel of the first, it wasnt new anymore, I like him as an actor though, some may disagree but he was good in exit wounds, over all i wouldnt mind hangin out with him or watchin his latest movie but as a rapper he just suz now i guess
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I'm not really feelin him anymore. I loved his first album back in 98. I can still bump it alittle today. But after that he fell off badly. I can't believe I bought his second and third albums. I was convinced by the people who work at circuit city.
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IMO i never felt DMX.Not any of his albums.
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1st Cd-hella dope
2nd-average maybe a lil less
3rd-better than second,but more pop appeal...ei party up...
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DMX's first was CLASSIC IMO especially when it came out when Puff was on top and then switched the focus from dancin and prancin back to the streets...i don't think it sounds dated...the production is still the same today as before...still in reg rotation...
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He just got a good voice. People like dat deep voice shit. like Ja rule/Dmx type voice but too bad they ain't got the rhymes to back it up. Dmx is o.k.!! Ja Rule Garbage.... never bought any of their shit and i don't think i ever will..
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DMX is terrible. Def Jam promotes him well but his records are sorry. I don't feel what he has to say, and his flow is wack.
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i don't think he's bitin pac at all. pac wasn't a dog. x thinks he's a pitbull in a man's body. he growls and barks all throughout his albums and talks about his relationships with his four legged companions... shit he dedicated his entire back to his first dog. it's not really a gimmick either... das just him... u may not like it... it may be annoying to some, but there's a place for it in hip hop
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i don't think he's bitin pac at all. pac wasn't a dog. x thinks he's a pitbull in a man's body. he growls and barks all throughout his albums and talks about his relationships with his four legged companions... shit he dedicated his entire back to his first dog. it's not really a gimmick either... das just him... u may not like it... it may be annoying to some, but there's a place for it in hip hop
i like X but maybe peeps think he's bitin Pac's image and the sentimental thug shit...
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Hes Not BAD
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this isnt aimed at jake im just responding to all yall and givin yall my opinion
well you put him on the same level as nelly huh. DMX doesnt have the pop half singing album like nelly does and you gotta admit X's lyrics are better than nelly's. and of course everyone wants succes so i gues he had to do something to get there. and this guy has never bragged about his car ,money, ice like nelly, CMR, jigga, does. this guy is always wearin a dog chain and some pants. so i wouldnt put him on that level but not on Snoop's level either.
i think hes ok but better than a lot of other shit out there. and you cant just say hes the only one who bites pac and you dont like him for that cause everyone wants to be like him or bites him or uses him for succes , nas, jigga, lil zane,Ja Rule, No limit, tha realest, DR and a lot more people have i just cant remember. and ya know everyone bites him.
and X has a lot of real songs which a lot of other rappers dont.and X talks about a lot of real shit.and hes signed to a reall succesfull label so ya know they want their artist succesfull so their gonna market it. so many rappers out there today are so fake and putting him on the same level just isnt right but thats just your(anyone) opinion. if ya just feel him then i gues you dont. i cant do anything about it. but if you dont like him cause of his info and biting pac thats bullshit cause you cant say " i dont like x cause hes just like pac and has a bald head and runs around without a shirt like him". DMX is nothing compared to pac.
some of you just dont like him cause of his mtv commercial succes but yall should listen to his music deeper. as i said before if ya don feel him then ohwell thats your opinion. and this is just mine. he might not be the best rapper out there but i wouldnt say he sucks.
Peace
U can't love DMX, u gotta FEEL him and personally I FEEL X. Yeah, he reminds all of us of the late great 2Pac but that's about it (unlike ja rule who actually bites Pac). DMX is on my all time Top 20 greatest MCs list (#15 or so) coz he actually SAYS something, and he's got charisma, wit and energy to back it up. Lyrically, X cannot be really compared to anyone. I feel like his first record was one of the most influential ever in Rap coz it switched the game back to the rough shit (fuck Puff and Mase). And, no matter what y'all say, I actually feel his second joint too. Now the 3rd one was average but certainly not a worse album than Doggfather or the whole of Last Meal for that matter (let's be honest and forget the clasic joints on it). If DMX was a West Coast artist, y'all would be PRAISING him. Plus DRE said on Rap City (with no hesitation) that the only rapper he really feels besides his crew is DMX so I have the greatest producer ever to back up my point. Now, X ain't Nas or Scarface or Black Thought or Ras Kass or Slim or Talib Kweli lyrically but believe me, all those cats RESPECT him coz he can still RHYME and is unique. Pac wasn't as lyrically "twisted" as Biggie but in my opinion, he's the greatest coz of his versatility and his subject matter. In other words, other stuff has to be taken into account when judging an MC. Whoever said that X never talks about money, cars, bitches,platinum and icey rollies got it right: DMX is just spittin' and fuckin with ur mind. Yeah, I wish he had DOPER producers (how about the DOC??) but well... Finally, even DE LA SOUL showed DMX love on BET; now, if u know De La, u know they ain't praising too many multiplatinum-mainstream-east-coast-mtv-friendly rappers. That should tell you: DMX's the truth. I'm gettin' "The Great Depression" Sept 25th, no doubt about it...
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now i dont know if your quoten my in a good way or a bad way but just so ya know i was showin dmx respect and love. and yes X is tight and i feel him, thats what i was bassicly saying and i said that x raps real and not about ice and cars and shit, so i sont know why you quoted me. and im gettin his new one too, dont get it twisted man
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now i dont know if your quoten my in a good way or a bad way but just so ya know i was showin dmx respect and love. and yes X is tight and i feel him, thats what i was bassicly saying and i said that x raps real and not about ice and cars and shit, so i sont know why you quoted me. and im gettin his new one too, dont get it twisted man
I actually quoted u in a GOOD way... Check my post again...
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aight cool
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I mean i liked DMX and shit before i heard that he was dissin 2Pac and shit and i dont like people Dissin 2pac so i dont realy like him anymore but i dont know if it was like a rumour or sumthin cause i never found out until like a friend told me so i dont know.... Well if he realy did Diss 2Pac nah i dont like him