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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Quadruple OG on June 14, 2007, 06:23:31 PM
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With record sales going down each year, and with more big record labels showing more and more concern, how far is the music industry from just releasing all music digitally first?
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i hope not, i dont listen to music and a fuckin pc, i got daytona rides sound case with a complete nad system that can't play anything that is not on a physical support like a cd or a dvd, unless i plug my ipod on the auxilliary but that sucks
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This will never happen because everyone doesnt have access to computers or digital music. Releasing music only through digital outlets cuts off a large part of the music buying public.
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honestly I believe in less than 20 years CDs will go the way of cassettes... SOME people may still have them, but 75% of the public will probably shift to a hard drive / flash drive medium for damn everything, including films
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honestly I believe in less than 20 years CDs will go the way of cassettes... SOME people may still have them, but 75% of the public will probably shift to a hard drive / flash drive medium for damn everything, including films
Yeah I agree.. Vinyl will NEVER die though!! :)
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honestly I believe in less than 20 years CDs will go the way of cassettes... SOME people may still have them, but 75% of the public will probably shift to a hard drive / flash drive medium for damn everything, including films
Yeah I agree.. Vinyl will NEVER die though!! :)
it'll just be in a vegetative state for the rest of time, nobody fucks with that shit except for hip hop dj's
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It's slowly decreasing as people are buying individual songs off of iTunes and the such. I personally don't buy songs off of the net because they're usually not in CD quality and the artist is not getting shit.
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honestly I believe in less than 20 years CDs will go the way of cassettes... SOME people may still have them, but 75% of the public will probably shift to a hard drive / flash drive medium for damn everything, including films
Exactly wot he said, eventually tho nobody will buy albums if CDs are rare because y the fuck wud u pay like 8 quid for the album offa itunes, when u don't get the case, booklet instead just a lock on the songs which stops u from playing them on another computer....
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CDs are already obsolete now, IMO. Five years ago, I remember I could go into FYE or Best Buy when there was a really popular album out and it would be sold out. Nowadays, they always order ridiculous numbers of copies, but then they're all just sitting on the shelves even during holiday season. Actually, sometimes part of the reason artists get certified Gold or Plat these days is when the stores buy lots and lots of CD copies of their albums, regardless of whether or not the public buys them (remember, you certified for SHIPPING to stores, not SELLING directly to the public necesarily).
It's slowly decreasing as people are buying individual songs off of iTunes and the such. I personally don't buy songs off of the net because they're usually not in CD quality and the artist is not getting shit.
You think artists get shit now even from CD sales? And no, AAC is pretty much indistinguishable from CD quality, if you use iTunes.
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i dont see cd's being completely obsolete unless some other format you can buy from a store is made but i can see they sales going down quite a bit over time.
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I don't see all music being distributed digitally. 'Cause whenever you buy some off the net, it's of inferior quality. CD Quality music would take up too much bandwidth. It's only feasible when household internet speeds are greatly increased, and that'll take many many years.
Another physical medium that replaces CD's might come along, but atleast I'm not aware of any new disc trying to take CD's place in music storage. The MiniDisc tried, but didn't become popular. (Might be 'cause only a few albums were available on MiniDisc, most you had to record yourself.)
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what are the actual figures of cd sales ? i know hip hop sales are down because of bootlegging and downloading but what about overall ?
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It's slowly decreasing as people are buying individual songs off of iTunes and the such. I personally don't buy songs off of the net because they're usually not in CD quality and the artist is not getting shit.
You think artists get shit now even from CD sales? And no, AAC is pretty much indistinguishable from CD quality, if you use iTunes.
They're getting more then whatever they worked out for the iTunes download.
and AAC is not indistinguishable from CDQ. IIRC (I could be wrong) the select catalogue on iTunes that is in higher quality is 256 KPBs which is a big step above the 128 KPBs DRM-ridden files but I can tell the difference between a lossless file and a compressed file.
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LAME MP3 is indistinguishable from CDQ, if you have a good ripper and around 192 VBR
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even the 320 kpbit mp3s dont have the sound quality of cdq, only format who as the same are flac files, and it's like half the size of a wave file
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even the 320 kpbit mp3s dont have the sound quality of cdq, only format who as the same are flac files, and it's like half the size of a wave file
Do keep in mind very few people mind that much. Most people are satisfied with 128kbps mp3 rips - just the higher audio quality alone won't be enough to save the cd industry.
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within the next 10 years there will be a new media drive. maybe a cube? or a sphere? that would be cool.
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within the next 10 years there will be a new media drive. maybe a cube? or a sphere? that would be cool.
Maybe a buttplug!! And then when you insert in it your anus you will hear the music! Now that would be dope..
Hehe that kinda reminds me of the episoe of Family Guy where Peter gets that machine which turns his farts into jokes :cow:
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eventually record execs are gona come out wit a softare 2 stop music from bein able 2 download including napster, itunes, and all dat shit, cuz technically its illegal. artists do get shares of wat they put there name on, do u think a nigga like TPain aint gettin paid 4 all them ringtones and downloaded music from sites? artists is gettin ink off of all dat, why u think niggas is really startin 2 ball now. album sales will go up again its just a matter of time b4 they come out wit that software and ur favorite artists goes 10x platinum again ;)
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^pity that is impossible. sound is output, as long as it's output there will always be ways to copy it. ALWAYS.
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^pity that is impossible. sound is output, as long as it's output there will always be ways to copy it. ALWAYS.
its big money goin down tha drain this is america im sure they'll find a way, not 2 say u wrong but they'll b a way.
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even the 320 kpbit mp3s dont have the sound quality of cdq, only format who as the same are flac files, and it's like half the size of a wave file
That is true.
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Hope industries fall.
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Most people do not have a clue with this AAC/AIFF/320,192KB,etc stuff is. Their ears arent really trained to discern the differences like that.
But I predict that Cds wll become obsolete in like 5-10 years. Closer to 5 years, i say. But its just that the incentive to make full albums is becoming increasingly rare. From the perspective of a pop mainstream artist, all you want to do is make that next hit on the radio. Why make a full album with 3 singles and 10 filler tracks? Why not just release the 3 hot singles, and then with the time that you woulda saved making those 10 filler tracks, you can make your next 5 hot singles. so the Digital format seems like the best fit for this sort of situation.
i'm actually selling most of my cds right now in anticipation for this, and just having a pure digital collection eventually. I still have my vinyl collection though.
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^where did people develop the misconception artists strive to make filler tracks?
wouldnt they be makin every track as good as they can? but theres a couple that stand out? isnt that what it is?
lets say your theory is true, wouldnt they still need to make the 'filler' tracks and filter them out of the 'hit singles'?
maybe it's just me pissed off during exam times, but you people make me sick.
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^where did people develop the misconception artists strive to make filler tracks?
wouldnt they be makin every track as good as they can? but theres a couple that stand out? isnt that what it is?
lets say your theory is true, wouldnt they still need to make the 'filler' tracks and filter them out of the 'hit singles'?
maybe it's just me pissed off during exam times, but you people make me sick.
true that, i doubt they go in there and think i will make 3 good tracks and 7 shit tracks for my album
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^where did people develop the misconception artists strive to make filler tracks?
wouldnt they be makin every track as good as they can? but theres a couple that stand out? isnt that what it is?
lets say your theory is true, wouldnt they still need to make the 'filler' tracks and filter them out of the 'hit singles'?
maybe it's just me pissed off during exam times, but you people make me sick.
true that, i doubt they go in there and think i will make 3 good tracks and 7 shit tracks for my album
they dont strive to make filler tracks, of course not. but there is clearly going to be a few songs that are going to be above the rest in terms of mass public appeal, and marketability. I'm not saying this applies to all artists. There are plenty of artists that have enough artistic quality, that they make full albums with all great songs (Jay-Z, TI, Kanye etc).
But the trend of the industry is heading towards just one hit wonders (not in the literal sense of only one hit, but artists with very poor longevity). You look at the power 106 playlist, you see Crime Mob "Rock Yo Hips" , Da Shop Boyz "Party Like a rock Star", Huey "Pop Lock and Drop It", Mims "This Is Why Im Hot". These records are getting crazy burns on the radio, but you know what? aint no one buying their albums.. their itunes and ringtone sales are crazy though.. but no ones buying their whole album. So for artists like these, all they're focused on is making that next iTunes single, or that next popular ringtone.
These are the type of artists that im talking about, that are going to contribute to the declining sales of CDs.
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Its not the artists its the people... Not everyone can do it like the person before them did cuz if they do they're labeled "copy cats". Mims and rappers like that cant make songs like Alwayz N2 Somethin (NWA) so they go the commercial route, makin a number club bullshit song is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY harder than u think. Even other genres of music are suffering bcuz of the downloading (which I wish would just be cut off)... If 50,000,000 people download ur music and 50,000 buy it... would u come out wit dat "Real" shit or that record that u try 2 git spins in the club? But Certain artists get certain markets (Jeezy, Mims), not everyone can go tha same way.
I pray that they stop this illegal downloadin shit (yes I can admit I'm bein hypocritical) but the sooner tha better, alot more better music would be released... nooone was downloadin in 94' but EVERYBODY (includin' old folx do) downloads in 07'