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Title: Why Wasn't....
Post by: AlerG on August 26, 2001, 10:37:32 AM
why wasn't royce da 5'9 on chronic 2001, i'm pretty sure he ghostwrote for the watcher but why the hell wasn't he on a track...i just thought of this as i was reading another topic on 2001...royce is my favorite emcee right now and i think that it's a tragity that he wasn't on it...they could've cut out a skit or two and inserted a royce track with dre...even if they would've put the thrown is mine on there i would've been happy...i think dre owe's it to royce...also royce's cd is scheduled to be out in december, i can't wait for that, peace.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 10:39:45 AM
YEH I POSTED THE ROYCE RELEASE DATE AND TRACKLIST LAST WEEK


XXPLOSIVE SHUD HAVE BEEN LEFT OFF AND 'WAY I BE PIMPIN' PUT ON INSTEAD

ROYCE GHOSTWROTE, 'THE MESSAGE'


peace

Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Hittman on August 26, 2001, 10:41:03 AM
Yeah it would have been better with Royce on it. The chorus doesnt sound like Dre one bit
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Big FC on August 26, 2001, 10:41:26 AM
yea.. way i be pimpin is betta.. but if kurupt hadn't done such a retarted job it would've been dope, lol..
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 10:42:56 AM

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Yeah it would have been better with Royce on it. The chorus doesnt sound like Dre one bit


EH??!!

THE CHORUS OF WAY I B PIMPIN? IS THAT WOT U MEAN?

THATS ROYCE


peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: AlerG on August 26, 2001, 10:43:24 AM
i don't like xxxplosive mainly because kurupt sucks on it saying shit like "you're more of a bitch than a bitch", what the fuck is that...the way i be pimpin, i remember downloading that along time ago but i can't remember what it sounds like...has dre and royce done any other songs together?  , peace.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: bez on August 26, 2001, 10:43:26 AM
I reckon Xxplosive should of been left off and the Xxplosive feat Royce should of been used instead.  That song is better than the other 1 well I reckon.  And put it this way he wud of got on the album.  Is ghostwriting like he wrote the song on the sly but like gave it to dre like.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Big FC on August 26, 2001, 10:45:06 AM
ghostwriting simply means that you wrote the lyrics and someone else spitsthem... what cube did for nwa, lol
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Hittman on August 26, 2001, 10:45:33 AM

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EH??!!

THE CHORUS OF WAY I B PIMPIN? IS THAT WOT U MEAN?

THATS ROYCE


peace



No I was on about The Watcher you postd while I was writing my first post,
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 10:45:43 AM
NO THATS ALL ROYCE AND DRE HAS DUN  :(

GHOSTWRTIN IS 2 B ASKED 2 WRITE A TRACK, THEN THE ARTIST TWEAKS IT AS THEY C FIT


ALER G - RE GET WAY I B PIMPIN ITS D-O-P-E (DRES VERSES R TITE)

peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Murrow on August 26, 2001, 10:49:39 AM
Eminem wrote the lyrics to "The Watcher"...trust.

He also penned all of "Forgot About Dre."  Em also wrote Dre's verses in "Lets Get High," & "Bang, Bang."
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Hittman on August 26, 2001, 10:51:20 AM

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Eminem wrote the lyrics to "The Watcher"...trust.

He also penned all of "Forgot About Dre."  Em also wrote Dre's verses in "Lets Get High," & "Bang, Bang."


Well Em has got some dope lyrics, especially of SlimShady EP.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Murrow on August 26, 2001, 10:54:08 AM
I'll post the full 2001 writing credits in a minute for Dre's verses...
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 10:56:19 AM
THE EP WAS GUD BU THE LP WAS BETTA IMO

Eminem - "Slim Shady" EP - 1998 Web Entertainment - (No longer availible)
- "Intro (Slim Shady)"
- "Low Down, Dirty"
- "If I Had..." (original mix)
- "Just Don't Give A Fuck" - (original mix)
- "Mommy"
- "Just The Two Of Us"
- "No One's Iller" (featuring Swift, Bizarre, & Fuzz)
- "Murder, Murder"
- "If I Had")
- "Just Don't Give A Fuck" - (radio edit)

THE ONLY TRACKS NOT ON THE LP -

LOW DOWN AND DIRTY
NO ONES ILLER
MURDER MURDER

BUT THE NEWER TRACKS ADDED ON THE LP WERE D-O-P-E!

AS THE WORLD TURNS
BRAIN DAMAGE
BAD MEETS EVIL
ROCK BOTTOM
ROLE MODEL
IM SHADY


D-O-P-E ALBUM!  ;D

peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Hittman on August 26, 2001, 10:56:35 AM
Where do you get your info, does it say it in the booklet.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Hittman on August 26, 2001, 10:57:59 AM
BTW my last post was to Incognito.

Rud messed it up.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 10:59:05 AM
NAW I WAS JUST QUICKA!


;D
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Murrow on August 26, 2001, 10:59:51 AM
Here they are, I made a post a while ago, but these are the people who penned Dre's verses:

"The Watcher" - Eminem (Whole Song)

"Fuck You" - Hittman

"Still D-R-E" - Jay-Z, Snoop

"Big Egos" - The D.O.C.

"What's The Difference" - Xzibit

"Light Speed" - Hittman

"Forgot About Dre" - Eminem (Whole Song)

"The Next Episode" - Hittman

"Let's Get High" - Eminem

"Bitch Niggaz" - Snoop Dogg

"Housewife" - The D.O.C.

"Bang, Bang" - Eminem

"The Message" - Royce Da 5-9

Y'all can double check this shit track by track on the "2001" credits, just look for the publishing of each rapper.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:01:13 AM
ROYCE ISNT CREDITED IS HE?!?

IM GONNA CHECK


peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Hittman on August 26, 2001, 11:04:20 AM
Damn me and my burned CDs.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Murrow on August 26, 2001, 11:04:38 AM
The reason Royce isn't credited for "The Message" is because of a dispute between Dre & Royce's manager.  He wrote the lyrics, but didn't get paid for em or some shit like that.  Royce also sings the hook for "Big Egos" but isn't credited...same scenario.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: AlerG on August 26, 2001, 11:04:53 AM
i'm gonna check out that way i be pimpin song again, and also the throne is mine...if i'm not mistaken wasn't royce on xxxplosive pt 2 or was that just another name for the throne is mine, peace.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:05:28 AM
I CANT SEE ROYCES NAME ANY WHERE IN THE 2001 CREDITS?!?

peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:06:30 AM
XXPLOSIVE PT 2 IS ANOTHA NAME 4 THE WAY I B PIMPIN (ITS THE SAME BEAT)



peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Murrow on August 26, 2001, 11:08:19 AM
I thought "Xxplosive part 2" was the alternate title for "The Way I Be Pimpin."  That's what The Source called it.

???
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Murrow on August 26, 2001, 11:08:57 AM

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I CANT SEE ROYCES NAME ANY WHERE IN THE 2001 CREDITS?!?

peace


Look above why...
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Hittman on August 26, 2001, 11:11:19 AM
Incognito you know waaaaaayyyy to much about these things.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:11:55 AM
YEH THEY WERE POSTED AT THE SAME TIME!



SAME 2 U! - COS OF THE NAMES OF XXPLOSIVE PT 2! (COS I SED IT!)


;D

peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Hittman on August 26, 2001, 11:12:04 AM
Youre braim must way you down  :P
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Murrow on August 26, 2001, 11:14:22 AM
I'm about 98% sure that I'm right...
The D.O.C's name is T. Curry, and his publishing is:  T. Curry/Sony Music Publishing.

Hittman's name is Brian Bailey, his publishing is...B. Bailey/Loot On Loose Leaves/Big Yatch Publishing.

GET IT!  NOW CHECK THE BOOKLET
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: AlerG on August 26, 2001, 11:15:21 AM
i'm gettting the throne is mine and the way i be pimpin (xxxplosive pt 2) right now, peace.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:16:25 AM
GUD DECISION!

GET 'FRIENDS' WHILE UR AT IT


peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: AlerG on August 26, 2001, 11:18:25 AM
i have friends among a bunch of other unreleased shit by royce, peace.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:19:48 AM
WOT TRACKS U GOT

ILL SUGGEST ANY U DONT LIST...
PLUS I MITE C SUM NEW ONES I DONT HAVE!


peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Murrow on August 26, 2001, 11:19:59 AM
Man, I've never heard "The Throne Is Mine."   :-[
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:21:27 AM

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Man, I've never heard "The Throne Is Mine."   :-[


*GASPS*

*POINTS TO THE DOOR *

"DONT COME BACK TILL UVE GOT IT!"

;D
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Murrow on August 26, 2001, 11:22:55 AM
My comp sucks & I can only peep real audio shit.  I'm trying to hav someone burn me a CD with that song...do you have a burner?
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:24:45 AM
YEH I DID A ROYCE CD 4 MR LOC

BUT U LIVE IN THE U.S

IM FROM THE U.K ID SEND IT YA BUT I DUNNO IF IT'D GET THERE...??


peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Hittman on August 26, 2001, 11:25:35 AM

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My comp sucks & I can only peep real audio shit.  I'm trying to hav someone burn me a CD with that song...do you have a burner?


Sometimes it does that for me aswell.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: AlerG on August 26, 2001, 11:39:29 AM
i used to have like 30 royce songs but my shit got erased so i have been slowly getting them back but right now i have:
1. Boom
2. You Cant Touch Me
3. We're Live (Danger)
4. The Throne Is Mine
5. The Way I Be Pimpin
6. Nuthin To Do
7. Scary Movies
8. Scary Movies (Sequel)
9. Bad Meets Evil
10. What The Beat
11. Blackmask
12. The Desert
13. Wall Away
14. Another Hit
15. Flash On
16. Friends
17. I Won't Be
18. King Of Kings
19. I'm The King
20. Take His Life
21. The One

that's all i have but i used to have alot more, yo Rud do you have the new version of Boom, if so can you post it cause i cant find it anywhere, also if you can post any royce songs that you have that aren't on my list than that would be appreciated, peace.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:43:42 AM
U MEAN THE VIDEO VERSION OF BOOM?


I HAVE ALL WOT U HAVE XCEPT



O ROYCE APPEARS ON

'WILLA FORD - I WANNA B BAD'

HES DONE A TOUR WITH HER


peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: AlerG on August 26, 2001, 11:48:07 AM
yeah i've heard that willa ford song but he doesn't really do much on it, he also is on that song: Let's Grow from the lyricist lounge cd...yeah i mean the video version of boom, do you have that?  , peace.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: AlerG on August 26, 2001, 11:52:54 AM
i checked out the throne is mine and the way i be pimpin, my opinion is this:
1. The Throne Is Mine is tight and royce spits like usual really tight, the beat is definately 2001 and it's got dre written all over it, overall a sick song that should see the light of day but i doubt it will.
2. The Way I Be Pimpin is definately better than the xxxplosive released on 2001. i think that pimpin should've been in the track 6 spot on 2001 cause it is ten times better. the only thing i don't like about it is royce only does the chorus (but he does it well), i thought he should've spit a verse or two on it, peace.
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:53:23 AM
YEH I DONT LIKE THAT 'LETS GROW' THA MUCH, THE VERSES ARE A BIT CHOPPY


YEH THIS IS ROYCE'S BIT ON THE WILLA FORD SONG,

[Royce Da 5-9](Willa)
{*Chorus One overlaps Royce's verse*}
Willa, Willa, Willa, whatchu want?  Whatchu want?
Willa, Willa, Willa, whatchu want? (can I get it from you?)
Is it Em the "Criminal" wit the "Stan" look, uhh
You need a "Real Slim Shady" to (please stand up)
Or is it me, the criminal wit the V
The never pretend to be, nothin other than a (bad boy)
If you say you want me, tell me how you gon' be
(hey Royce) Yo (I wanna be bad) c'mon


THATS IT!

IM GONNA GET THE VIDEO VERSION NOW IF I CAN


peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 26, 2001, 11:55:00 AM

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i checked out the throne is mine and the way i be pimpin, my opinion is this:
1. The Throne Is Mine is tight and royce spits like usual really tight, the beat is definately 2001 and it's got dre written all over it, overall a sick song that should see the light of day but i doubt it will.
2. The Way I Be Pimpin is definately better than the xxxplosive released on 2001. i think that pimpin should've been in the track 6 spot on 2001 cause it is ten times better. the only thing i don't like about it is royce only does the chorus (but he does it well), i thought he should've spit a verse or two on it, peace.



YEH I DOUBT 'THE THRONE IS MINE' WILL GET AN "OFFICIAL" RELEASE

AND YEH I WAS GUTTED WHEN ROYCE DIDNT GET A VERSE ON 'WAY I B PIMPIN'


peace
Title: Re: Why Wasn't....
Post by: Rud on August 27, 2001, 09:40:57 AM
ALERG HERES SUM TRACKS NOT ON UR LIST THAT I HAVE



HOPE THEY HELP!

peace