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Title: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Rainstar2002 on August 20, 2001, 11:17:01 AM
whats the deal with this nigga? his shit is light years ahead of other mc's out there - when his shit shit dropping?

Ras' problems are..
bad management, wak production, lack of marketing  -

why didn't dre pick his ass up? Imagine Ras and Eminem on a track..ooohwee.

holla back
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on August 20, 2001, 11:38:58 AM
What he needs 2 do is drop sum mo' shit like "Soul On Ice". What's up wit "Van Gough" ???
Em is defo held in the same regard to Ras IMO, a collabo would b hella dope.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 20, 2001, 11:54:08 AM
But Ras Kass ain't too fond of white people right?
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on August 20, 2001, 12:02:23 PM
4 real  ??? Well then that would put a spanner in the works.....but it's jus' music right?
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 20, 2001, 12:03:26 PM
The only MC's better than Ras Kass from the west are Xzibit & Crooked I, and that's pretty damn good...I can't wait for "Van Gogh", "Soul on Ice" was the shit...
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Hittman on August 20, 2001, 12:32:19 PM
I'm with NIK, only better is Xzibit and Crooked I.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Doggystylin on August 20, 2001, 01:16:09 PM
Ras Kass is definitley in the top mc's list of the west

this guy is DOPE!
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 20, 2001, 02:14:51 PM

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4 real  ??? Well then that would put a spanner in the works.....but it's jus' music right?


Yeah, just check "The Nature of the Threat" and you'll see what I mean.

But if Cube can change so can Ras so who knows.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on August 20, 2001, 02:20:13 PM
Yeah, but that was like back in '96....maybe's he has changed since then  ???
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Don Jacob on August 20, 2001, 03:42:26 PM
yeah ras kass is tight, he's the second best in the west only behind xzibit


but naw ras kass isn't racist against all white people, he's annoyed by most which is different, but he has to deal with ALOT of white dudes every day in this music bus so i doubt he hates them all or he wouldn't even have a record dropping...which will be out for sure by thanksgiving
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on August 20, 2001, 03:49:54 PM
yeah, I mean that whole album was jus' about the hypocrisies of being a black man in america. Thats what he was dealing with at that time so thats basically what he rapped bout.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Doggystylin on August 20, 2001, 04:16:45 PM
I cant wait for his new shit!, Ras Kass isnt against whites, Kam is a little more heavy on that shit. who else is like that. i know there are more
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: West Coast Veteran on August 20, 2001, 05:16:05 PM
^^^ Ice Cube was...Chuck D still has alot of animosity...i'm sure alot of them do but they just crack a coke and a smile just to sell records...
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Don Jacob on August 20, 2001, 05:21:25 PM
lol crack a coke


chuck d has changed a bit though, he still can be an asshole, but he's less closed minded than he use to be....i'm not saying chuck d was a dumb ass becuase he did make black people aware but he was ignorant to alot of things too but from what i've read he's less ignorant to certain issues....some hardcore afrocentric backpackers are losing respect for that but i'm starting to gain more respect for him
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: DPGC2001 on August 20, 2001, 05:27:18 PM
Rass Kass is second to none when it comes to lyricists on the West...Xzibit and Crooked I have better voices and delivery but lyrically can't touch Rass...Rass also needs to develop a flow...
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Rud on August 21, 2001, 08:27:03 AM
RAS IS DOPE,

BUT ONLY XZIBIT OUT OF THE 3 IS GETTIN THE MOST PROMOTION

**UNLESS SUGE PROMOTES THE FUCK OUTTA CROOKED**

BUT LYRICALLY THE 3 TOGETHER! - OOOOWEEE!


peace
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Tanjential on August 22, 2001, 09:37:50 AM
it could happen, i mean dre has worked with him before,x has worked with him and crooked so imagine all 3 of them on a dre beat LOL i doubt it'd happen but eh.Yall forgettin about Tha Kingpin Kurupt,i know he's inconsistent as hell but damn peep Tha Dogg Pound 2002,it proves moreso that Kurupt's one of the illest.peace-Tanjint
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Strapped4DaSeason on August 22, 2001, 10:49:45 AM
soul on ice ia a great album. ras kass is a fuckin hog lyrically... some of that nigga's shit makes u rewind the tape just so u can take in the full effext of what he's telling u..

ras kass is DOPE
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Ro J. Simpson on August 22, 2001, 05:08:15 PM
for me he is the illest

peace out
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: ROCCY on August 24, 2001, 11:17:29 PM
Well, i dont know what you talking about and shit but i dont think if Ras Kass And Eminem got togetheir in an album it wouldnt realy be cool and shit Cause Ras Kass is like a realy good singer by him self he aint need no one to back his shit up.... you Guy's Know what im talkin about Cuz... :o
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: infinite59 on August 25, 2001, 05:32:40 PM
Rass is light years ahead of the game.  Soul On Ice is a classic album.  
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Doggystylin on August 25, 2001, 05:35:20 PM
infinite remember when you said this exactly execpt  with eminem, lol ,it didnt get good replies did it. i wouldnt say that
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: infinite59 on August 25, 2001, 07:01:33 PM
I'm not at this board to make friends.  I respect ya'll, but I don't say things to win people's favor.  This is where I go to get shit off my chest.
Eminem is ahead of the game as far as he's willing to get more personal than other rappers and he's real creative and lyrical about it.  
Rass Kass is ahead of the game as well.  Alot of peeps can't even see the genius in his music, you got to read the lyrics, and play it back over and over.  He also has more knowledge than most rappers out their.  
Both of them are geniuses.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Doggystylin on August 25, 2001, 11:05:57 PM

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I'm not at this board to make friends.  I respect ya'll, but I don't say things to win people's favor.  This is where I go to get shit off my chest.


Eminem is as far as he's willing to get more personal than other rappers and he's real creative and lyrical about it.  
Rass Kass = Alot of peeps can't even see the genius in his music, you got to read the lyrics, and play it back over and over.  He also has more knowledge than most rappers out their.  


for the first part, ok

second part, i agree with a little change

peace
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: jay on August 26, 2001, 03:08:24 AM
i saw ras kass two weeks ago live with xzibit and he took one white disabled motherfucker on stage and he was pretty cool ...
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: infinite59 on August 26, 2001, 09:39:28 AM
What did he take the white disabled dude on stage for?  What else happened at the show?
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Hittman on August 26, 2001, 09:53:02 AM
Youre all saying about Crooked I, Ras Kass & Xzibit with a Dre but how about with someone alittle better then Dre, say DJ Quik, now that would be dope.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Big FC on August 26, 2001, 10:03:20 AM
quik is NOT better than dre... so yea... there ya go..
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: truemaster on August 26, 2001, 04:11:26 PM
Has anyone Downloaded the new Van Goh album? I was surprised to see the entire album on Morpheus and now that it's being delayed even more, I had to DL it. Anyways, I haven't really listened to it all to critique it, but so far there are a few cuts that are straight heat.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Rainstar2002 on August 26, 2001, 05:54:58 PM
wait a second....did i hear wak ass Crooked I mentioned in the same breath as Ras Kass?????? Yall niggaz are trippin - Ras was and is the eptiome of lyricism at it's finest, dont forget EVERY jewel off "Soul On Ice". "Nature Of the Threat", Ordo Abchao", "On Earth As It Is..." Niggaz today still aint fucking with that album lyrically. Ras was on some professor emeritus type shit on that one, unfortunately, economics comes into play, and the nigga has to water down his rhymes and "G" up his beats to attempt to have a market value. But true headz know what I mean.  As far as Mr. X to tha Z,  Ras is Lyrically ahead of him, but niggaz is feelin X's voice more as stated earlier.

You want to hear Lyricism at it's finest, peep Chino Xl feat Ras Kass - "Riiiot!"

Now thats an Mc's Mc - Chino XL........ Canibus, (vintage) Nas (93-96), (vintage) Eminem (97 - 00), pre - D-12., PLanet Asia, Last Emperor, Royce, Black thought, Common....these are Real Mc's.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - Illest west coast mc
Post by: Sir Hambone on August 26, 2001, 06:59:46 PM
major label wise...

He is thee most underated lyricist....on the West........H20 was dope...