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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: WC Iz Active on June 25, 2007, 01:35:44 PM
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just reported on espn news
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They just said Indiana would be included and would recieve Bynum and Odom. Does that mean JO to Minnesots?? god I hope not
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They just said Indiana would be included and would recieve Bynum and Odom. Does that mean JO to Minnesots?? god I hope not
Daamn...most likely huh??
My question is, HOW N THE HELL do you get four teams to agree to a trade including superstars, with two of the top 10 or 15 players in the league being involved??? I mean...I suppose that means Minnesota would get J.O. and probably someone as a filler, but then who's the 4th team that would be involved? Looking at salaries and just the overall balance of what each team gets, I really don't see how that goes.
I think I'll be happy with that, even though I really don't want to see Bynum or Odom go...but of course, I'd rather keep Kobe, and I would rather keep Kobe and no one else than to lose Kobe. And IF he still threatened to leave at any time after this trade...I'd really be heated.
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They just said Boston would be involved and they would recieve Jermaine. Kobe and Garnett :o :o Pierce and Jermaine :o :o
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RIP Minnesota & Indiana if that goes through
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who would the twolves get then for giving up garnett?
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who would the twolves get then for giving up garnett?
I don't think they'll be getting a superstar or superstar caliber player. Probably some young players from Boston.
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I hope this deal goes down. As much as I don't want Odom to go this deal would make us a contender.
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who would the twolves get then for giving up garnett?
Minnesota is mostly tryna free up cap space...I think they'll be getting picks and what not, but no major superstar...This was posted in the Laker thread.
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RIP Minnesota & Indiana if that goes through
LMFAO@"RIP to Indiana" if they get Odom AND Bynum for JO. :-X
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Lakers in trade talks to get Garnett
Trade discussions involve sending Odom and Bynum for the Timberwolves star in a possible four-team deal. Bryant is not part of the possible trade.
The owners of the Lakers and Minnesota Timberwolves have begun talks for a trade that would involve sending Kevin Garnett to the Lakers, league sources said Monday.
A multi-team trade discussion is underway involving the Lakers, Indiana, Minnesota and possibly a fourth team, with the Lakers getting Garnett and the Pacers getting Lamar Odom and teenage center Andrew Bynum from the Lakers. Another minor player will likely be added to make the deal work financially.
Jerry Buss and Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor spoke by phone for 20 minutes Friday. Buss reportedly ended the conversation by suggesting that Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak and Timberwolves vice president of basketball operations Kevin McHale would continue the discussion Monday.
Such a move could address the concerns of Kobe Bryant, who has demanded to be traded for more than four weeks.
Bryant met with Kupchak for about an hour Friday, a day after Garnett rejected a trade that would have sent him to Boston.
Bryant did not step down from his desire to be traded. However, Kupchak, Buss and Lakers Coach Phil Jackson met later that day to discuss options based on the assumption they would still have Bryant, The Times has learned.
Garnett, 31, has never formally asked for a trade while signaling his distress in recent years as the Timberwolves fell from top-notch status. The No. 1-seeded team in the Western Conference in 2004, they lost to the Lakers in the West finals and haven't made the playoffs since then.
The Timberwolves finished 33-49 in 2005-06 and 32-50 last season, tied for 12th in the West with Portland.
Garnett can opt out of his contract after next season. He wants an extension, which Buss reportedly told Taylor he was willing to offer. Garnett is due to earn $22 million next season and $23 million in 2008-09, the last year of his contract.
Garnett, a 10-time All-Star, averaged 22.4 points, 12.8 rebounds, 4.1 assists and 1.7 blocked shots last season while showing few signs of slowing down, other than spending the last five games of the season in Los Angeles — he has a home in Malibu — to rest a sore right quadriceps.
Bynum, 19, started his second NBA season with a flurry, including a memorable game against Minnesota in which he had 20 points,14 rebounds and three blocked shots last November.
But Bynum struggled during the second half of the season and finished with averages of 7.8 points and 5.9 rebounds a game. The Lakers have been criticized by Bryant for not trading Bynum at the February trade deadline in order to get Jason Kidd from New Jersey.
Odom, 27, was acquired three years ago as part of the trade that sent Shaquille O'Neal to Miami.
Odom averaged 15.9 points, 9.8 rebounds and 4.8 assists last season and missed 26 games because of knee and shoulder injuries. He had a torn labrum in his left shoulder repaired last month and is expected to return in time for training camp in October.
i'm hopin something can go down. as hard as it'll be hard to part with odom, kg is simply the shit.
even if we don't land KG, as long as we don't settle for JO, i'm good. we'd be better off keeping odom and dealin bynum for someone else
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RIP Minnesota & Indiana if that goes through
LMFAO@"RIP to Indiana" if they get Odom AND Bynum for JO. :-X
Yup, I might have went a little over the top with it. I was just too disgusted about the Lakers getting Garnett.
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Not gonna get my hopes up. A 4 team trade involving these caliber players is nearly impossible,especially in this small amount of time. But if it does go down, see you in the finals!
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As an educated sports fan i dont see this deal happening
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As an educated sports fan i dont see this deal happening
If it does (I really hope it goes down) you're probably gonna lose that bet with NIK.
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As an educated sports fan i dont see this deal happening
If it does (I really hope it goes down) you're probably gonna lose that bet with NIK.
im not too concerned about that
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The owners of the Los Angeles Lakers and Minnesota Timberwolves have begun talks for a trade that would involve sending Kevin Garnett to the Lakers, NBA sources said Monday.
The talks turned into discussions about a four-way deal among the Lakers, Timberwolves, Indiana Pacers and Boston Celtics , in which the Lakers would have gotten Garnett. However, the deal broke down, reportedly because the Celtics did not like what they would have gotten, ending the four-way negotiations.
The Lakers are now back to direct two-team talks with the Timberwolves. However, sources say, Minnesota General Manager Kevin McHale wants young players and high draft choices and isn't keen on the Lakers' offer of Andrew Bynum, who is young (19), and Lamar Odom (27), who isn't.
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this could either equal 1999-2000 or 2003-2004 for us
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The T-Wolves owner is making McHale do this deal. McHale had Garnett ready to go to Boston, with a deal that fucked the T-Wolves over. McHale is a biased, piece of shit GM. Living in MN, I can really see the genious of Jerry West. West was a man who knew how to deal, how to get pieces that work. Like getting Horry, knowing what he can bring, once he traded Eddie for Rice he knew he wasn't right so he slowed his role. McHale does dump deal after dump deal, and his REFUSING to talk to the Lakers. It's Buss talking to the T-Wolves owner, forcing McHale to talk to the Lakers. Buss has been in the game a long time, if McHale wouldn't do it, Buss will go over his head.
Look for this deal to go down, personally, I pray we keep Odom, Shit, give them Anybody but Odom. Odom and Garnett would be the killer forwards with Byrant, but you can't have everything. Mitch is against the wall on this one, McHale WOULDN'T trade Garnett to the Lakers. His been trying to get him on the Celtics. This is why McHale is one of the worst GMs in the NBA... period. If this deal goes off, expect it to be by the teams owners.
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A man can dream.
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Get Garnett.. whoever it takes
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By the way.. am I missin something or this 4 team trade was making perfect sense for the teams... Boston and LA got another all star, what both of their superstars want; Indiana got some young talent and Odom who can lead em in the weak East and Minnesota got another pick and clear cap space to build in the future... the fact Pierce wants it out if nothing happened, may re-bring this deal on the table
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
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By the way.. am I missin something or this 4 team trade was making perfect sense for the teams... Boston and LA got another all star, what both of their superstars want; Indiana got some young talent and Odom who can lead em in the weak East and Minnesota got another pick and clear cap space to build in the future... the fact Pierce wants it out if nothing happened, may re-bring this deal on the table
Word is that they don't want to give up Al Jefferson.
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the problem wit this deal is that nobody wants to play in boston
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^^^^ teams need to stop to expect to upgrade their level based on the potential of some young players
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pick
Indiana gets Odom and Bynum
Celtics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pick
Lakers get Kevin Garnett
Looks like everyone wins in that deal.
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pick
Indiana gets Odom and Bynum
Celtics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pick
Lakers get Kevin Garnett
Looks like everyone wins in that deal.
Some A LOT more than others...
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pick
Indiana gets Odom and Bynum
Celtics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pick
Lakers get Kevin Garnett
Looks like everyone wins in that deal.
Some A LOT more than others...
IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pick
Indiana gets Odom and Bynum
Celtics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pick
Lakers get Kevin Garnett
Looks like everyone wins in that deal.
Some A LOT more than others...
IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170
Naw, the Celts and the Lakers get the best part of the deal. Indiana gets a decent trade. And the Wolves get shafted. Along with Garnett, either one or two guards are going as well. Hudson and Jaric want out.
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pick
Indiana gets Odom and Bynum
Celtics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pick
Lakers get Kevin Garnett
Looks like everyone wins in that deal.
Some A LOT more than others...
IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170
some writers are creative ....
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pick
Indiana gets Odom and Bynum
Celtics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pick
Lakers get Kevin Garnett
Looks like everyone wins in that deal.
Some A LOT more than others...
IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170
Naw, the Celts and the Lakers get the best part of the deal. Indiana gets a decent trade. And the Wolves get shafted. Along with Garnett, either one or two guards are going as well. Hudson and Jaric want out.
The Celtics get the best deal? The Wolves get shafted? LOL...Al Jefferson IMO currently holds more value than Garnett alone. Dude played like a beast and is still only 21! On top of that, Minnesota is looking for 3 things. A top pick, cap relief, and a future superstar...THIS IS THE BEST THEY WILL GET! If they don't take an offer like this, Garnett walks for nothing, and Minnesota loses. Celtics honestly lose out in this deal, because IMO, Al Jefferson alone is worth more than JO...Jefferson broke out this year, and he will be an all-star in no time. Then consider that Boston is losing the 5th pick as well, and it's insane to say they're getting the best part of the deal...The only reason I think the Celtics should do that is to keep Pierce and try and win now in the weak ass eastern conference. Indiania and Minnesota get the best part of this deal if that goes down...PeACe
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pick
Indiana gets Odom and Bynum
Celtics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pick
Lakers get Kevin Garnett
Looks like everyone wins in that deal.
Some A LOT more than others...
IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170
Naw, the Celts and the Lakers get the best part of the deal. Indiana gets a decent trade. And the Wolves get shafted. Along with Garnett, either one or two guards are going as well. Hudson and Jaric want out.
The Celtics get the best deal? The Wolves get shafted? LOL...Al Jefferson IMO currently holds more value than Garnett alone. Dude played like a beast and is still only 21! On top of that, Minnesota is looking for 3 things. A top pick, cap relief, and a future superstar...THIS IS THE BEST THEY WILL GET! If they don't take an offer like this, Garnett walks for nothing, and Minnesota loses. Celtics honestly lose out in this deal, because IMO, Al Jefferson alone is worth more than JO...Jefferson broke out this year, and he will be an all-star in no time. Then consider that Boston is losing the 5th pick as well, and it's insane to say they're getting the best part of the deal...The only reason I think the Celtics should do that is to keep Pierce and try and win now in the weak ass eastern conference. Indiania and Minnesota get the best part of this deal if that goes down...PeACe
You said it yourself. The East is weak. Al Jefferson having a break out year really doesn't mean a whole lot on the West, especially if LA gets Garnett. Minnesota's entire team is made up of young guys. They don't need a future star, they need proven talent. For all we know, last year for Al Jefferson could have been a fluke. And another pick for the Wolves just mean they have to spend that much longer developing another young guy, who may or may not pan out. Without some sort of threat keeping Minnesota relevant, they could have all the cap space in the world, but free agent would want to sign and pretty much all of their bargaining chips for a high powered trade would be gone.
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Honestly, all that he say she say 4 team bla bla bla trade talk is pissing me off. In the end nothing might get done, just like in february. Ok, not nothing, but not something nearly as big as this. GMs are too conservative.
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^^^^ a lot of GMs don't deserve to have a such important work in a NBA team.... don't want to take risk, keep young promising players (believing they will become all star soon by a miracle ) and their team keep sucking :-X
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pick
Indiana gets Odom and Bynum
Celtics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pick
Lakers get Kevin Garnett
Looks like everyone wins in that deal.
Some A LOT more than others...
IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170
Naw, the Celts and the Lakers get the best part of the deal. Indiana gets a decent trade. And the Wolves get shafted. Along with Garnett, either one or two guards are going as well. Hudson and Jaric want out.
The Celtics get the best deal? The Wolves get shafted? LOL...Al Jefferson IMO currently holds more value than Garnett alone. Dude played like a beast and is still only 21! On top of that, Minnesota is looking for 3 things. A top pick, cap relief, and a future superstar...THIS IS THE BEST THEY WILL GET! If they don't take an offer like this, Garnett walks for nothing, and Minnesota loses. Celtics honestly lose out in this deal, because IMO, Al Jefferson alone is worth more than JO...Jefferson broke out this year, and he will be an all-star in no time. Then consider that Boston is losing the 5th pick as well, and it's insane to say they're getting the best part of the deal...The only reason I think the Celtics should do that is to keep Pierce and try and win now in the weak ass eastern conference. Indiania and Minnesota get the best part of this deal if that goes down...PeACe
You said it yourself. The East is weak. Al Jefferson having a break out year really doesn't mean a whole lot on the West, especially if LA gets Garnett. Minnesota's entire team is made up of young guys. They don't need a future star, they need proven talent. For all we know, last year for Al Jefferson could have been a fluke. And another pick for the Wolves just mean they have to spend that much longer developing another young guy, who may or may not pan out. Without some sort of threat keeping Minnesota relevant, they could have all the cap space in the world, but free agent would want to sign and pretty much all of their bargaining chips for a high powered trade would be gone.
I guess you don't get the point...Minnesota isn't winning now. They're not looking for an aged superstar that'll help them win games. They're looking for young talent, draft picks, and cap relief, becuase they're going with a future youth movement...I thought living in Minnesota, you'd be the first to know this. Al Jefferson isn't a fluke, I've followed him since he was drafted, dude has been nice, and now he's an all-star caliber player with endless future superstar potential. WOLVES WANT A TOP PICK. I'm not the one who said this, it's been written everywhere. If Minnesota doesn't take either Odom+Bynum+Kwame for Garnett+Jaric or All Jefferson+5th pick for Garnett, then they are flat out STUPID.
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^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
JO
I thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pick
Indiana gets Odom and Bynum
Celtics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pick
Lakers get Kevin Garnett
Looks like everyone wins in that deal.
Some A LOT more than others...
IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170
Naw, the Celts and the Lakers get the best part of the deal. Indiana gets a decent trade. And the Wolves get shafted. Along with Garnett, either one or two guards are going as well. Hudson and Jaric want out.
The Celtics get the best deal? The Wolves get shafted? LOL...Al Jefferson IMO currently holds more value than Garnett alone. Dude played like a beast and is still only 21! On top of that, Minnesota is looking for 3 things. A top pick, cap relief, and a future superstar...THIS IS THE BEST THEY WILL GET! If they don't take an offer like this, Garnett walks for nothing, and Minnesota loses. Celtics honestly lose out in this deal, because IMO, Al Jefferson alone is worth more than JO...Jefferson broke out this year, and he will be an all-star in no time. Then consider that Boston is losing the 5th pick as well, and it's insane to say they're getting the best part of the deal...The only reason I think the Celtics should do that is to keep Pierce and try and win now in the weak ass eastern conference. Indiania and Minnesota get the best part of this deal if that goes down...PeACe
You said it yourself. The East is weak. Al Jefferson having a break out year really doesn't mean a whole lot on the West, especially if LA gets Garnett. Minnesota's entire team is made up of young guys. They don't need a future star, they need proven talent. For all we know, last year for Al Jefferson could have been a fluke. And another pick for the Wolves just mean they have to spend that much longer developing another young guy, who may or may not pan out. Without some sort of threat keeping Minnesota relevant, they could have all the cap space in the world, but free agent would want to sign and pretty much all of their bargaining chips for a high powered trade would be gone.
I guess you don't get the point...Minnesota isn't winning now. They're not looking for an aged superstar that'll help them win games. They're looking for young talent, draft picks, and cap relief, becuase they're going with a future youth movement...I thought living in Minnesota, you'd be the first to know this. Al Jefferson isn't a fluke, I've followed him since he was drafted, dude has been nice, and now he's an all-star caliber player with endless future superstar potential. WOLVES WANT A TOP PICK. I'm not the one who said this, it's been written everywhere. If Minnesota doesn't take either Odom+Bynum+Kwame for Garnett+Jaric or All Jefferson+5th pick for Garnett, then they are flat out STUPID.
I didn't say they want some guy in his 30s looking for a long term deal then he's out. I'm talking about a mid 20s player who has the fundamentals down and doesn't make rookie mistakes. You don't have to tell me the Wolves want or need a top pick. I've been saying it all along too. With that in mind, they need someone who can at least pretend to know what they are doing on the court. They already have a whole team of young, inexperienced players. Adding a pick on top of that, and it's not really going to help a whole lot until everyone is developed.
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^Really? And who do you think you're gunna get like that for a 31 year old Garnett? Al Jefferson and Lamar Odom are both pretty established, and they are both all-star caliber players. Frankly, I'd want Odom+Bynum over Jefferson+5th pick any day of the week, but if you think you're gunna find some better deals than that, then your fantasies must come to an end...PeACe
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Trade talks that involved sending Minnesota star Kevin Garnett to the Los Angles Lakers have ended, sources within the organizations have told ProBasketballNews.com.
“It’s officially dead. (Timberwolves owner Glen) Taylor won’t allow it to happen,” one source said.
The deal was first reported by the Los Angeles Times as a possible four-team trade that also involved Indiana and Boston, in which the Lakers would have received Garnett. According to the Times, Lakers big men Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum would have been sent to Indiana, and Indiana forward Jermaine O’Neal would have gone to Boston. Minnesota would have received young players and draft picks.
The Times later reported that Boston backed out of the deal -- leaving the Lakers and Timberwolves to negotiate on their own. One scenario reported by the newspaper had the Lakers shipping Odom, Bynum and the No. 19 pick to Minnesota for Garnett.
The Boston Globe and other news sources have reported similar deals within the past 24 hours.
“All discussions have ended (between the Lakers and Timberwolves),” a second source told PBN.com. “There’s no deal.”
A third source would only say “it‘s very slim” when asked if there remained a possibility that Garnett could end up with the Lakers this off-season.
Taylor and Timberwolves vice-president of basketball operations Kevin McHale ended the talks with L.A. after determining the Lakers couldn’t offer enough in return, according to the sources. The Timberwolves are expected to continue seeking a deal for Garnett, and will likely focus their attention again on Boston and possibly Phoenix.
“It seems like they don’t want (Garnett) playing in the Western Conference, and that only makes sense,” the first source said.
Garnett is 31 years old and a 10-time All-Star. He has spent all 12 seasons in Minnesota, and averaged 22.4 points, 12.8 rebounds and 4.1 assists last year.
Garnett is owed $22 million next season and $23 million in 2008-09. His contract expires following the ‘08-09 season and he reportedly has requested an extension.
http://www.probasketballnews.com/pbnbrkng_062607.html :-[
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ESPN's Ric Bucher reported yesterday that even a deal that nets KG wouldn't change Kobe's "trade me" stance.
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ESPN's Ric Bucher reported yesterday that even a deal that nets KG wouldn't change Kobe's "trade me" stance.
LOL. Bucher reported the exact opposite
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=43962&start=0
And regardless, BUCHER IS FULL OF SHIT.
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Lol at that bitch. If Kobe is so upset cuz the fo won't bring in the right players to win now, then they brough in KEVIN GARNETT, do you really think he would still say 'so what trade me'.
Give us Garnett and bring in a decent PG that can shoot and play D (Luther Head?) and I guarantee Kobe stays.
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The latest rumors has:
Marion going to Boston
Garnett going to Phoenix
5th Pick + a couple players going to Minnesota
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2917804&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines
If Minnesota takes the 5th pick and throw-ins over Odom and Bynum, then McHale simply doesn't wanna see Garnett in LA, even if it means taking the worse offer... :-\
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^That's a good trade for Boston and Phx, sucks for Minny but at least they can put KG on a really good team with a spoonfeeding PG after he's been loyal to their franchise for so many years despite losing and bad management... one of those undisclosed players should be Barbosa
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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=687~1021~2166~510~261&teams=16~16~16~2~21
I put in that random whiteboy instead of that #5 pick, similiar salary
Phx could also add Bell, Banks or someone of that kind of salary for Minnesota.
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^LMFAO@thinking Minnesota would want that, especially when they've been offered Odom+Bynum already. They're mostly in the current talks for the 5th pick, that's what mainy want. Phoenix is only sending out Marion...it's the Celtics who will be sending out additional players (perhaps Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, and a few others).
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Minnesota is getting ripped off one way or the other... you think PHX gets KG just for Marion? LoL that would be a scandal. But yes, Boston should probably add a young decent player or 2 in there
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Minnesota is getting ripped off one way or the other... you think PHX gets KG just for Marion? LoL that would be a scandal. But yes, Boston should probably add a young decent player or 2 in there
Minnesota DOES NOT get ripped off if they take Odom+Bynum, but McHale is too stupid. He's actually iffy about Odom's contract, and Odom barely makes 13 mill a year over the next 2 seasons. Fucking dumbass. Phoenix can give up only Marion to get Garnett if other teams are involved. Of course Minnesota wont do it straight up...That would be worse than Odom for Garnett straight up.
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Minnesota is getting ripped off one way or the other... you think PHX gets KG just for Marion? LoL that would be a scandal. But yes, Boston should probably add a young decent player or 2 in there
Minnesota DOES NOT get ripped off if they take Odom+Bynum, but McHale is too stupid. He's actually iffy about Odom's contract, and Odom barely makes 13 mill a year over the next 2 seasons. Fucking dumbass. Phoenix can give up only Marion to get Garnett if other teams are involved. Of course Minnesota wont do it straight up...That would be worse than Odom for Garnett straight up.
5th pick+Telfair+Green+Barbosa+Ratliff's sorry contract is easily more appealing to McHale than Odom+Bynum
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KG in Purple and Gold has always been and will remain a dream... Lakers fans; mediocrity is part of the upcoming years.. unfornutalety I've lost the lil faith I have in our FO... as crazy and stupid as it sounds , trade Kobe and rebuild.. it's obvious this FO isn't able to surround Kobe with enough talents.. yeah I DO know completing trades ain't an easy process and there are factors you don't control but NOTHING in 3 years can't be just bad chance... Mitch and Jim are shit, simple and plain ... so instead of being a 1st round (2nd round ar best) exit and having illusions , rebuild now and stop playing, taking fans for morons...
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^LMFAO@thinking Minnesota would want that, especially when they've been offered Odom+Bynum already. They're mostly in the current talks for the 5th pick, that's what mainy want. Phoenix is only sending out Marion...it's the Celtics who will be sending out additional players (perhaps Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, and a few others).
Yeah I agree. If your Phoenix and all you have to part with is Marion and you replace him with KG and you keep Stoudamire that is the deal of the century for the Suns. I think Phoenix would have to add more to this deal to make it work.
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Minnesota is getting ripped off one way or the other... you think PHX gets KG just for Marion? LoL that would be a scandal. But yes, Boston should probably add a young decent player or 2 in there
Minnesota DOES NOT get ripped off if they take Odom+Bynum, but McHale is too stupid. He's actually iffy about Odom's contract, and Odom barely makes 13 mill a year over the next 2 seasons. Fucking dumbass. Phoenix can give up only Marion to get Garnett if other teams are involved. Of course Minnesota wont do it straight up...That would be worse than Odom for Garnett straight up.
5th pick+Telfair+Green+Barbosa+Ratliff's sorry contract is easily more appealing to McHale than Odom+Bynum
What don't you get about Barbosa not being included by Phoenix? LOL...And even if, that's still a worse offer than Odom+Bynum. Odom is easily better than any player on that list, and Bynum is a better prospect than anyone on that list as well. The main piece Minnesota would be getting is the 5th pick. Both Odom and Bynum are more valuable than that pick...But I just heard the talks fell through, cuz Marion wont agree to play in Boston, so it don't matter either way...PeACe
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Minnesota is getting ripped off one way or the other... you think PHX gets KG just for Marion? LoL that would be a scandal. But yes, Boston should probably add a young decent player or 2 in there
Minnesota DOES NOT get ripped off if they take Odom+Bynum, but McHale is too stupid. He's actually iffy about Odom's contract, and Odom barely makes 13 mill a year over the next 2 seasons. Fucking dumbass. Phoenix can give up only Marion to get Garnett if other teams are involved. Of course Minnesota wont do it straight up...That would be worse than Odom for Garnett straight up.
5th pick+Telfair+Green+Barbosa+Ratliff's sorry contract is easily more appealing to McHale than Odom+Bynum
What don't you get about Barbosa not being included by Phoenix? LOL...And even if, that's still a worse offer than Odom+Bynum. Odom is easily better than any player on that list, and Bynum is a better prospect than anyone on that list as well. The main piece Minnesota would be getting is the 5th pick. Both Odom and Bynum are more valuable than that pick...But I just heard the talks fell through, cuz Marion wont agree to play in Boston, so it don't matter either way...PeACe
lol@acting as if it was a obvious fact that Barbosa is not one of those undisclosed players :grumpy:
no suprise if it doesn't go down. GMs don't have balls and no all-star wants to play on a team that doesn't contend. nba is pussy.
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Lakers fans; mediocrity is part of the upcoming years.. trade Kobe and rebuild.. rebuild now
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I'm honestly disgusted. I think you should lay low for a while until everything goes through. Hopefully you're just speaking out of emotion...Lakers are not a rebuilding type of an organization. We're in more talks than we've been in since Jerry West was the GM. We were approaching elite status with a limited roster in December. The league is extremely weak. It is time to win NOW. If you believe then you can achieve...If you can't, then lay low. You don't wanna say things you're gunna be majorly regretting in only a few months...PeACe
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^^^^ give me one fuckin reason why Marion should agree to play for Boston ...
best team : Phoenix by far
best weather : Phoenix by far
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Minnesota is getting ripped off one way or the other... you think PHX gets KG just for Marion? LoL that would be a scandal. But yes, Boston should probably add a young decent player or 2 in there
Minnesota DOES NOT get ripped off if they take Odom+Bynum, but McHale is too stupid. He's actually iffy about Odom's contract, and Odom barely makes 13 mill a year over the next 2 seasons. Fucking dumbass. Phoenix can give up only Marion to get Garnett if other teams are involved. Of course Minnesota wont do it straight up...That would be worse than Odom for Garnett straight up.
5th pick+Telfair+Green+Barbosa+Ratliff's sorry contract is easily more appealing to McHale than Odom+Bynum
What don't you get about Barbosa not being included by Phoenix? LOL...And even if, that's still a worse offer than Odom+Bynum. Odom is easily better than any player on that list, and Bynum is a better prospect than anyone on that list as well. The main piece Minnesota would be getting is the 5th pick. Both Odom and Bynum are more valuable than that pick...But I just heard the talks fell through, cuz Marion wont agree to play in Boston, so it don't matter either way...PeACe
lol@acting as if it was a obvious fact that Barbosa is not one of those undisclosed players :grumpy:
no suprise if it doesn't go down. GMs don't have balls and no all-star wants to play on a team that doesn't contend. nba is pussy.
A trade is gunna go down, there will just be a lot of different talks before something actually happens...Barbosa is not an undisclosed player, BOSTON was sending out undisclosed players, not Phoenix. It's not GMs, humans in general don't have balls. No one wants to part with something they've worked so long on building in a span of a day. That's why these talks take so long...Agreements don't happen over night...PeACe
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^^^^ give me one fuckin reason why Marion should agree to play for Boston ...
best team : Phoenix by far
best weather : Phoenix by far
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Marion is very unhappy in Phoenix. He thinks he deserves more recognition. :laugh:
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^^^^ give me one fuckin reason why Marion should agree to play for Boston ...
best team : Phoenix by far
best weather : Phoenix by far
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I don't know. Have you been to Phoenix during the summertime? It is like 115 out there. ;D
Yeah I would not want to play for Boston either. It is going to be a loooooong time before that team gets back to its glory years.
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^^^^ give me one fuckin reason why Marion should agree to play for Boston ...
best team : Phoenix by far
best weather : Phoenix by far
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You're talking to me? There is no logic explanation, Marion is a moron who thinks he's better than he really is. HE was the one who indicated that he wants out of PHX to be da man.
A trade is gunna go down, there will just be a lot of different talks before something actually happens...Barbosa is not an undisclosed player, BOSTON was sending out undisclosed players, not Phoenix. It's not GMs, humans in general don't have balls. No one wants to part with something they've worked so long on building in a span of a day. That's why these talks take so long...Agreements don't happen over night...PeACe
Well they have had weeks since they went out of the playoffs. It would have been much more comfortable to work something out before the draft. Now Ainge is going to draft some bum and the #5 pick will lose value.
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Lakers fans; mediocrity is part of the upcoming years.. trade Kobe and rebuild.. rebuild now
:puke: :-X
I'm honestly disgusted. I think you should lay low for a while until everything goes through. Hopefully you're just speaking out of emotion...Lakers are not a rebuilding type of an organization. We're in more talks than we've been in since Jerry West was the GM. We were approaching elite status with a limited roster in December. The league is extremely weak. It is time to win NOW. If you believe than you can achieve...If you can't, then lay low. You don't wanna say thing you're gunna be majorly regretting in only a few months...PeACe
Until everything goes through ? I want facts not talks... yeah the league is weak, reason why I'm even more disgusted with our current situation .... I'm a Lakers fan 4 life... I'm just tired of the situation we are stucked in , for 3 years.. until the FO proves me wrong , I will be pissed off ...
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^^^^ give me one fuckin reason why Marion should agree to play for Boston ...
best team : Phoenix by far
best weather : Phoenix by far
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Marion is very unhappy in Phoenix. He thinks he deserves more recognition. :laugh:
I know that but being the man in Boston ? Homie please
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A trade is gunna go down, there will just be a lot of different talks before something actually happens...Barbosa is not an undisclosed player, BOSTON was sending out undisclosed players, not Phoenix. It's not GMs, humans in general don't have balls. No one wants to part with something they've worked so long on building in a span of a day. That's why these talks take so long...Agreements don't happen over night...PeACe
Well they have had weeks since they went out of the playoffs. It would have been much more comfortable to work something out before the draft. Now Ainge is going to draft some bum and the #5 pick will lose value.
Who knows if there isn't a trade in place being thought over? Trades are usually finalized on draft day, or the day before...People wanna make sure before they make a final decision...PeACe
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Lakers fans; mediocrity is part of the upcoming years.. trade Kobe and rebuild.. rebuild now
:puke: :-X
I'm honestly disgusted. I think you should lay low for a while until everything goes through. Hopefully you're just speaking out of emotion...Lakers are not a rebuilding type of an organization. We're in more talks than we've been in since Jerry West was the GM. We were approaching elite status with a limited roster in December. The league is extremely weak. It is time to win NOW. If you believe than you can achieve...If you can't, then lay low. You don't wanna say thing you're gunna be majorly regretting in only a few months...PeACe
Until everything goes through ? I want facts not talks... yeah the league is weak, reason why I'm even more disgusted with our current situation .... I'm a Lakers fan 4 life... I'm just tired of the situation we are stucked in , for 3 years.. until the FO proves me wrong , I will be pissed off ...
Keep being pissed, but the shit you're asking for is gaysauce to the fullest. Rebuild? Trade Kobe? You seem to me like the type of person who gives up easily...PeACe
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A trade is gunna go down, there will just be a lot of different talks before something actually happens...Barbosa is not an undisclosed player, BOSTON was sending out undisclosed players, not Phoenix. It's not GMs, humans in general don't have balls. No one wants to part with something they've worked so long on building in a span of a day. That's why these talks take so long...Agreements don't happen over night...PeACe
Well they have had weeks since they went out of the playoffs. It would have been much more comfortable to work something out before the draft. Now Ainge is going to draft some bum and the #5 pick will lose value.
Who knows if there isn't a trade in place being thought over? Trades are usually finalized on draft day, or the day before...People wanna make sure before they make a final decision...PeACe
Thought over, yes. Pulled through? Very unlikely. The draft is tomorrow holmes. I don't think a blockbuster will happen, boooring :sign_locked:
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Lakers fans; mediocrity is part of the upcoming years.. trade Kobe and rebuild.. rebuild now
:puke: :-X
I'm honestly disgusted. I think you should lay low for a while until everything goes through. Hopefully you're just speaking out of emotion...Lakers are not a rebuilding type of an organization. We're in more talks than we've been in since Jerry West was the GM. We were approaching elite status with a limited roster in December. The league is extremely weak. It is time to win NOW. If you believe than you can achieve...If you can't, then lay low. You don't wanna say thing you're gunna be majorly regretting in only a few months...PeACe
Until everything goes through ? I want facts not talks... yeah the league is weak, reason why I'm even more disgusted with our current situation .... I'm a Lakers fan 4 life... I'm just tired of the situation we are stucked in , for 3 years.. until the FO proves me wrong , I will be pissed off ...
. Rebuild? Trade Kobe? You seem to me like the type of person who gives up easily...PeACe
No the fact the FO ain't able to bring quality players around Kobe is the pb ... what's the point to keep Kobe and being just an average team FOR YEARS to come...
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^^^^ give me one fuckin reason why Marion should agree to play for Boston ...
best team : Phoenix by far
best weather : Phoenix by far
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Marion is very unhappy in Phoenix. He thinks he deserves more recognition. :laugh:
I know that but being the man in Boston ? Homie please
I agree. He could be a nice complimentary player with say a Paul Pierce but not running the show as the man himself.
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A trade is gunna go down, there will just be a lot of different talks before something actually happens...Barbosa is not an undisclosed player, BOSTON was sending out undisclosed players, not Phoenix. It's not GMs, humans in general don't have balls. No one wants to part with something they've worked so long on building in a span of a day. That's why these talks take so long...Agreements don't happen over night...PeACe
Well they have had weeks since they went out of the playoffs. It would have been much more comfortable to work something out before the draft. Now Ainge is going to draft some bum and the #5 pick will lose value.
Who knows if there isn't a trade in place being thought over? Trades are usually finalized on draft day, or the day before...People wanna make sure before they make a final decision...PeACe
Thought over, yes. Pulled through? Very unlikely. The draft is tomorrow holmes. I don't think a blockbuster will happen, boooring :sign_locked:
I guarantee either KG or JO get traded...Also Marion or Odom. This is a HUGE off-season, dunno what you're complaining about.
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^^^^ give me one fuckin reason why Marion should agree to play for Boston ...
best team : Phoenix by far
best weather : Phoenix by far
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Marion is very unhappy in Phoenix. He thinks he deserves more recognition. :laugh:
I know that but being the man in Boston ? Homie please
Marion is retarded. You should know that by looking at him shoot...
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Lakers fans; mediocrity is part of the upcoming years.. trade Kobe and rebuild.. rebuild now
:puke: :-X
I'm honestly disgusted. I think you should lay low for a while until everything goes through. Hopefully you're just speaking out of emotion...Lakers are not a rebuilding type of an organization. We're in more talks than we've been in since Jerry West was the GM. We were approaching elite status with a limited roster in December. The league is extremely weak. It is time to win NOW. If you believe than you can achieve...If you can't, then lay low. You don't wanna say thing you're gunna be majorly regretting in only a few months...PeACe
Until everything goes through ? I want facts not talks... yeah the league is weak, reason why I'm even more disgusted with our current situation .... I'm a Lakers fan 4 life... I'm just tired of the situation we are stucked in , for 3 years.. until the FO proves me wrong , I will be pissed off ...
. Rebuild? Trade Kobe? You seem to me like the type of person who gives up easily...PeACe
No the fact the FO ain't able to bring quality players around Kobe is the pb ... what's the point to keep Kobe and being just an average team FOR YEARS to come...
WERE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN. WE WILL NOT BE "AVERAGE" NEXT SEASON...MARK IT.
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I'm skeptical too that anything will happen, but can't KG opt out of his contract after next season anyway? McHale would be a complete fuckin retard if he didn't get SOMETHING in return now.
And I really don't see PHX giving up Stoudamire. Not saying I necessarily agree, I just don't see them doing it. Marion, absolutely.
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I'm skeptical too that anything will happen, but can't KG opt out of his contract after next season anyway? McHale would be a complete fuckin retard if he didn't get SOMETHING in return now.
And I really don't see PHX giving up Stoudamire. Not saying I necessarily agree, I just don't see them doing it. Marion, absolutely.
McHale is being a fucking shitbag...He should take Odom+Bynum already and be fucking happy with it. We all know Garnett wants to play here, it's just too bad that it's Kevin McHale's worst nightmare...He's even willing to lose Garnett for nothing to not see him in a Laker jersey...Funny thing is, Garnett will probably still sign with LA in 2008 either way.
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Funny thing is, Garnett will probably still sign with LA in 2008 either way.
^That's what you think :laugh: