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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: WC Iz Active on July 01, 2007, 04:08:51 PM
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At 42 dude is having a great year!! Barry is God, by far the best player of our generation and along with Mays, Ruth and Aaron one of the 4 best players ever, maybe the best of all time!!!!
750 Home Runs
500+ Stolen Bases
2900 hits while he has the most walks in mlb history
8 Gold Gloves
BARRY IS GOD! He is unreal!! My god he is legendary!! Props to the fans for getting it right!! Its gona be a love fest (no homo) for Bonds and SF at the all star game, I CANT WAIT! Propz to the amazing Barry for what he has done this year, so fuckin legendary!!!
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steroids
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steroids
HAHAHAH Yeah cause everyone else has these type of stats ::) and there is still no proof he did anything
Enjoy watching Barry while you can cause you are watching history and maybe the best player of all time!! MY GOD HE IS LEGENDARY!! A ICON!
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steroids
HAHAHAH Yeah cause everyone else has these type of stats ::) and there is still no proof he did anything
Except the fact he admitted to it but the said he didnt know he was taking it.
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it's not hard to to all the shit he's done when his arms look like this
(http://media.prankies.com/images/Yes-kiddies-this-is-what-steriods-do-to-you-flash12.)
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It doesnt matter, dude won his 3rd mvp, LOL 3RD MVP 14 years ago as a skinny twig. Dude has always been better than everyone else.
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it's not hard to to all the shit he's done when his arms look like this
(http://media.prankies.com/images/Yes-kiddies-this-is-what-steriods-do-to-you-flash12.)
by far the dumbest thing I have ever read. Baseball is all about hand eye coordination and timing. BARRY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE BEST!!!
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you fans here on the forum might be morons but it was THE FANS WHO VOTED HIM IN!!! Barry gets respect from everyone because deep down everyone knows he is the greatest ever (besides Mays)
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The sad thing about bonds is, without steroids he would of went down as a top 20 player of all time. Instead half of all baseball (fans, players, media) will never respect Barry and his accomplisments. Most wont even acknowledge his numbers. And that is a shame, but the only person to blame for that is Barry. But there is no point in even discussing this as a adult with you b/c while NIK has is Kobe, you have your Barry.
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top 20 all time! Dude was going to be top 5 or 6 no matter what
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top 20 all time! Dude was going to be top 5 or 6 no matter what
See neither me or you can discuss what place in the top 20 he is due to the fact most of the guys on that list we have never seen play except for a few second clips, except for a few players that even if you didnt see them play you can make a easy argument for being a top 5 of all time like Ruth, Mays, and Cobb.
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^^you have a point. any time I hear anyone that is 50-70 years old talk about Baseball they always say Willie Mays was easily the best player they ever saw. Joe Morgan has always said by far he is the G.O.A.T and so has Peter Gammons. Even Hank Aaron has always said Mays was definitely the better player. IMO Its very tough to put anyone above Mays and that includes Ruth
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Upon his Hall of Fame election, Mays was asked to name the best player that he had seen during his career. Mays replied, "I don't mean to be bashful, but I was."[
LOL very cocky but dude was on another level. Mays>>>Bonds
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IMO this is how I see it, I would pick Barry #1 But this era is just to tainted for me to do so.
1. Willie Mays
2. Hank Aaron
3. Barry Bonds
4. Babe Ruth
5. Ted Williams
6. Stan Musial
7. Ty Cobb
who knows where Arod and Griff will end up, they have a chance to be #6 or 7 imo
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^^you have a point. any time I hear anyone that is 50-70 years old talk about Baseball they always say Willie Mays was easily the best player they ever saw. Joe Morgan has always said by far he is the G.O.A.T and so has Peter Gammons. Even Hank Aaron has always said Mays was definitely the better player. IMO Its very tough to put anyone above Mays and that includes Ruth
Mays couldnt pitch. Ruth better BBA, HR's, RBI's, OBP, SLUGGING, OPS, and did I mention he could pitch lol. But Mays was the far superior fielder. But also disappeared come the playoffs. But for a younger generation it is too hard pass judgement on that. Like a lot of older people I talk to say the greatest power hitter they ever saw was Ralph Kiner, but at the same time you rarely hear his named mentioned much on tv. A lot of our views on sports are dictated by who the media thinks can make more money so certain names are shoved down our throats. So there are a lot of players who get undeserved credit but they have the sexier name to the media. Like Barry Zito, b4 he signed with the giants your espns shoved him down our throats like he was a ace which most people knew he wasnt.
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i dont enjoy watching cheaters, unless you give ben johnson is gold medal back, be fair, if some athletes can get away with it give them all equal chances
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But there is no point in even discussing this as a adult with you b/c while NIK has is Kobe, you have your Barry.
LOL. I was just thinking that. Spice, you starting to sound a little bit like NIK.
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Fits, Mays didnt disapear in the playoffs, he was a amazing clutch player. In the 62 world series against the Yanks he kept the game going in game 7 in the 9th inning with a double. Mays is the G.O.A.T
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Fits, Mays didnt disapear in the playoffs, he was a amazing clutch player. In the 62 world series against the Yanks he kept the game going in game 7 in the 9th inning with a double. Mays is the G.O.A.T
and that was his only ribbie in the series
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Barry is God, by far the best player of our generation and along with Mays, Ruth and Aaron one of the 4 best players ever, maybe the best of all time!!!!
Mays is the G.O.A.T
Which one is it?
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Mays>>>>Bonds
Mays has 3000 hits
Mays was the best defensive player of all time
Mays led the league in stolen bases 4 years in a row
He hit 660 homers while he missed 3 years in his prime fighting in the war, and he played his home games in the polo grounds which was known as the hardest park ever to hit homers in. Mays did it all, he is by far the G.O.A.T.
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Mays>>>>Bonds
Mays has 3000 hits
Mays was the best defensive player of all time
Mays led the league in stolen bases 4 years in a row
He hit 660 homers while he missed 3 years in his prime fighting in the war, and he played his home games in the polo grounds which was known as the hardest park ever to hit homers in. Mays did it all, he is by far the G.O.A.T.
-26 other players have 3000 hits, 10 of which are ahead of Mays
-Mays is one of the best defensive players to live... when it comes to defense that isnt as clear cut as batting statistics
-Rickey Henderson led the league in stolen bases 7 years in a row and then 4 years in a row. Plus Willie is a 110th all time in career stolen bases. Hell Jose Reyes has lead the league in his first two full seasons in baseball and is about to make it 3 seasons in a row.
-He missed a season and a half not three seasons. The Polo grounds was not the hardest ball park to ever hit home runs in. As deep as center was and right and left center were. You also had down the lines at 280 feet. And the left and and right center that were very shallow. Due to its weird shape you had two right and left centers. So how many many 290 foot home runs did he hit. How many did he hit to dead center that didnt leave the ball park. So it evens out. Plus he only played 6 seasons in the polo grounds.
Im not trying to discredit Mays in anyway, he is number 2 on my all time list. But what im trying to say is, it isnt as clear cut as you make it out to be.
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barry bonds compromises the integrity of major league baseball. hes also a huge choke artist in the post season.
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barry bonds compromises the integrity of major league baseball. hes also a huge choke artist in the post season.
you must have not watched the 2002 playoffs LOL, Barry BY FAR had the best postseason in MLB history that year. And he doesnt compromise the game, he is great for the game. He shows what hard work and durabiltiy can do for you. I will say it again dude won his 3RD MVP 14 years ago when he was a skinny twig LOL, HE WAS ALWAYS THE BEST!
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Fuck that cheating faggot. Dude doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs.
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yea a 245 career batting average in the playoffs is awesome.
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LOL at all the jealousy and hate!! Barry Bonds is a fuckin legend!!!
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LOL at all the jealousy and hate!! Barry Bonds is a fuckin legend!!!
Spice a lot of what people are bringing up are facts and not hate. If it wasnt for that 2002 world Series he was going down as one of the biggest superstar choke artist in not only baseball but all sports. You take away 2002 playoffs and hes hitting below .200. You take away the 2002 world series and hes barely hitting .200. And spice, no one is disputing the Bonds being a legend. Most peolple including myself considered him a top 20 player of all time, but with the HGH and god knows what else a large majority of fans dont acknowledge anything he did after 99. I know I sure dont. I still consider Roger Maris the single season home run holder.
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congrats to barry.
you guys act like he is the only player who has ever takin steroids. that shit dont help you put the bat on the ball that constantly, that is just skill. if you pickin on barry, where was everybody at when Mguire and Sosa was "savin" baseball. even after that muthafucka wouldnt comment after asked if he ever took steriods, everybody left him of the hook. its too bad, the whole sport of baseball is just sad.
however, griffey > bonds.
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congrats to barry.
everybody left him of the hook. i
however, griffey > bonds.
why have mcgwire and palmero been blackballed from baseball pretty much. I guess Barry wasnt the only one then. And I agree 110% Griffey >>>>>>>>> bonds.
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Griff is great but Bonds is on a whole other level. Griff can only dream about doing most of the things Barry has done.
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Griff is great but Bonds is on a whole other level. Griff can only dream about doing most of the things Barry has done.
Take away everything bonds did during the tainted years, 2000-2007. What exactly is bonds doing that Griffey wishes he could. You put in the 2000-2007 saying bonds is clean ofcourse bonds greater. But sadly he didnt do it clean. Anyone who tries to dilute themselves into thinking Bonds is clean is just kidding themselves.
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overall the only thing Griff gets the edge w/ is fielding but imo Barry has the edge with everything else.
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barry bonds is a dick. shit even one of his own teamates in 02 told me hes a dick. when i asked this teamate is barry on the juice his exact words were "hell yea u see how big that motherfucker got?"
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^^so what hes a jerk! that has nothing to do w/ how amazing he is as a ball player. Ty Cobb was much worse so who cares. his personality has nothing to do with his legendary talent so who cares.
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LOL at all the jealousy and hate!! Barry Bonds is a fuckin legend!!!
but he cheated to get there, just like bush bought votes
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congrats to barry.
you guys act like he is the only player who has ever takin steroids. that shit dont help you put the bat on the ball that constantly, that is just skill. if you pickin on barry, where was everybody at when Mguire and Sosa was "savin" baseball. even after that muthafucka wouldnt comment after asked if he ever took steriods, everybody left him of the hook. its too bad, the whole sport of baseball is just sad.
however, griffey > bonds.
thats why these athletes will never be legends such as bambino cuz back in the 20's players didn't take steroids they were smoking cigars on the field and hitting 60 home run.
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griffey>>>>>>>>Bonds
barry bonds only hit over 50 homers when he was juicing and even then he only did it once when he hit 73
griffey did it twice in a row and was close 4 straight years. if not for injuries griffey IMO would have owned that HR record.
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^^nah, Griff only gets the edge with fielding, Bonds has the edge w/ everythng else. Bonds >>>Griff
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everything else?
there's fielding and there's htiting,lol
you already admitted ken griff is a better fielder, and i just proved bonds has never hit over 50+ homers (non juice years) when griffey has twice , and probably would have even more times if not for injuries...lol
unless they have a pitching tournement or something and bonds beats him what everything else are you talkinga bout?
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^^who cares how many times he hit 50 hr's, lol its about LONGEVITY!
Fielding Griff>>Bonds just barely
Hit for Power Bonds>>>>>Griffey
baserunning Bonds>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Griffey
Hit for Average Bonds >>>>>> Griffey, Bonds has 2900 hits while he has the most walks in mlb history thats just obsurd
Bonds>>>>>>>Griffey
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congrats to barry.
you guys act like he is the only player who has ever takin steroids. that shit dont help you put the bat on the ball that constantly, that is just skill. if you pickin on barry, where was everybody at when Mguire and Sosa was "savin" baseball. even after that muthafucka wouldnt comment after asked if he ever took steriods, everybody left him of the hook. its too bad, the whole sport of baseball is just sad.
however, griffey > bonds.
thats why these athletes will never be legends such as bambino cuz back in the 20's players didn't take steroids they were smoking cigars on the field and hitting 60 home run.
that era doesnt count either though, nor does all the seasons black players werent allowed to play.
anyway you look at it, baseball has a sad history, though.
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^^YuP!!! Willie Mays >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Babe Ruth
Babe was dominating but his era wasnt even clsoe to as challenging as Mays era, Ruth played with only whites, what a fuckin joke.
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^^YuP!!! Willie Mays >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Babe Ruth
Babe was dominating but his era wasnt even clsoe to as challenging as Mays era, Ruth played with only whites, what a fuckin joke.
ehhhfuckinzackly.