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Title: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 10, 2007, 08:05:16 PM
Lakers, Fisher to reunite (http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/abox/article_1760239.php)

By KEVIN DING
OCRegister.com

The Lakers could use some of the old glory these days, and it's coming in the form of Derek Fisher.

The Lakers and Fisher were finalizing an agreement Tuesday night on a three-year contract worth about $16 million. Fisher, who turned 33 Monday, will get most of the Lakers' mid-level salary-cap exception to give the team a steady hand at lead guard while youngsters Jordan Farmar and Javaris Crittenton learn their trade.

Fisher became a free agent July 2 in a rare development when he was released from his Utah Jazz contract — giving up the remaining three years and $20.6 million — because he wanted to relocate to a city where 1-year-old daughter Tatum could get optimal care for her rare form of eye cancer.

Los Angeles can provide that, and Fisher can provide the Lakers with triangle-offense experience and a shoulder on which good friend Kobe Bryant can lean. Fisher changed agents over the weekend to be represented by Rob Pelinka, Bryant's agent.



Damn...A little too much, but what the hell.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: WC Iz Active on July 10, 2007, 08:14:48 PM
ehh I dont really like this.  LA will have a tough time making the playoffs this year.  The Warriors are the young, exciting team of the future, Lakers have alot of work to do.  They need to get rid of Odom and aquire JO or KG.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 10, 2007, 08:49:11 PM
I like the move, this gives the Lakers room to settle for JO, well having a solid PG for now well the other PGs devolpe. I feel sorry Bynum has to go, but it's time to win now, and Fisher is that PG to win now. I feel that this was in both parties interest, and Fisher has proven to be a quality leader with Utah. I still don't want to part with Odom though, as JO and Odom would be great with Byrant and Fisher in the backcourt. We'll see how this pans out though.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Vegasmac25 on July 10, 2007, 09:08:30 PM
well if the lakers do sign Fisher thats a huge step and now its time to do something to get JO or KG.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: WILL-I-DIE on July 10, 2007, 09:12:56 PM
dope news. we got d fish back
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on July 10, 2007, 09:49:08 PM
Not too crazy about Fisher anymore. And that's a lot of money. Fisher is not going to solve the Lakers' problems.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on July 10, 2007, 10:18:42 PM
Not too crazy about Fisher anymore. And that's a lot of money. Fisher is not going to solve the Lakers' problems.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: 7even on July 10, 2007, 10:42:07 PM
Basically the whole MLE on a 33-year-old mediocore PG. You gotta be crazy or emotionally attached to think that's a great move.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Antonio_ on July 10, 2007, 11:43:42 PM
I don't understand y'all. We desperately need a point guard who can run the triangle and who can be a good teacher for our three young reserves (Vujacic is 23, Farmar is 21 and Crittenton is still 19), and Fisher has all those qualities we need. He's a veteran, he got a big paycut (he lost $ 21 millions, leaving Utah), he's a friend of Kobe, he can defend, he knows triangle and he has Playoff experience. Shit, he's perfect. He's def better than Steve Blake, if you ask me. Plus i'm confident in Crittenton: he'll shine in 1-2 years.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Hatesrats™ on July 10, 2007, 11:51:43 PM
I called it since day 1..
welcome home Fish!
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: wcsoldier on July 11, 2007, 12:04:24 AM
It's overpaying but it was the best solution available... now it's time to move a PG, having 4PG is useless... some people are dissapointed coz they expected Billups or Mo Williams ... lol.. don't expect miracles Lakers fans , I said it and I repeat it , there won't be any major moves ..
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Bay Area Jat on July 11, 2007, 01:01:21 AM
great signing this is the one piece u guys were missing. i guess its safe to crown the lakers 08 champs huh Nik
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: rik on July 11, 2007, 08:57:37 AM
Not too crazy about Fisher anymore. And that's a lot of money. Fisher is not going to solve the Lakers' problems.

Exactly bringing in old players that can't make a fuckin' layup isn't doing anything to solve our problems.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: wcsoldier on July 11, 2007, 09:36:02 AM
Y'all expect that the MLE is gonna resolve our pbs ?  ... let me take a break
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: rik on July 11, 2007, 10:03:35 AM
Y'all expect that the MLE is gonna resolve our pbs ?  ... let me take a break

Spending it on washed up players doesn't fuckin' help.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: wcsoldier on July 11, 2007, 10:21:22 AM
^^^^ Fish had a pretty good year.. I'm not saying that's an awesome decision but it's still better than not fired the Snowboard man or to extend Kwame, Cook or Vujacic. We all agree that we have a very weak GM so complaining (as I did before too) ain't gonna change sth, we have to deal with the current inabilities of our FO and wait for better days... unless/til Bynum,Farmar , Crittenton can have a significant impact in the NBA or there is a GM change (actually the Buss family is falling off and is part of the pb too) we ain't gonna contend before some years... I prefer to have low expectations than to have a lot of hopes and being dissapointed like I was the latest 2-3 years
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 11, 2007, 10:35:42 AM
I'm not mad...


PG Derek Fisher...Jordan Farmar/Javaris Crittenton
SG Kobe Bryant...Mo Evans/Sasha Vujacic
SF Luke Walton...Vladimir Radmanovic
PF Lamar Odom...Ronny Turiaf/Brian Cook
C Andrew Bynum...Kwame Brown


CHRIS MIHM, TAKE THE VETS MIN!!!
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 11, 2007, 10:36:51 AM
great signing this is the one piece u guys were missing. i guess its safe to crown the lakers 08 champs huh Nik

Warriors='08 playoffs would be a celebration for your ass... :-X
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Bay Area Jat on July 11, 2007, 10:38:38 AM
anytime the W's make the playoffs its a celebration  8) cush. good cush
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 11, 2007, 10:40:15 AM
^^Which gives your no right to talk shit about ANY other team in the league...besides maybe the Clippers. :D
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: wcsoldier on July 11, 2007, 10:42:52 AM
I'm not mad...


PG Derek Fisher...Jordan Farmar/Javaris Crittenton
SG Kobe Bryant...Mo Evans/Sasha Vujacic
SF Luke Walton...Vladimir Radmanovic
PF Lamar Odom...Ronny Turiaf/Brian Cook
C Andrew Bynum...Kwame Brown


CHRIS MIHM, TAKE THE VETS MIN!!!
if everybody is on the same page, no major injuries and a better defense, I think the 4th seed is a realistic goal.. Andrew and Lamar should use these trades rumors as motivation and play like there was no tomorrow..
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Bay Area Jat on July 11, 2007, 10:44:39 AM
you dont see me callin the W's an elite team in the middle of the season like ur ass
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Antonio_ on July 11, 2007, 10:50:11 AM
I'm not mad...

PG Derek Fisher...Jordan Farmar/Javaris Crittenton
SG Kobe Bryant...Mo Evans/Sasha Vujacic
SF Luke Walton...Vladimir Radmanovic
PF Lamar Odom...Ronny Turiaf/Brian Cook
C Andrew Bynum...Kwame Brown


CHRIS MIHM, TAKE THE VETS MIN!!!

I'm with you on this. If we can get Mihm or P.J. Brown with the vets min we could do damage on the floor.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 11, 2007, 10:51:42 AM
you dont see me callin the W's an elite team in the middle of the season like ur ass

The Warriors were never on top of the west, smart guy...
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Bay Area Jat on July 11, 2007, 10:52:58 AM
niether were the lakers yet u still reffered to them as an elite team
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 11, 2007, 10:53:36 AM
I'm not mad...


PG Derek Fisher...Jordan Farmar/Javaris Crittenton
SG Kobe Bryant...Mo Evans/Sasha Vujacic
SF Luke Walton...Vladimir Radmanovic
PF Lamar Odom...Ronny Turiaf/Brian Cook
C Andrew Bynum...Kwame Brown


CHRIS MIHM, TAKE THE VETS MIN!!!
if everybody is on the same page, no major injuries and a better defense, I think the 4th seed is a realistic goal.. Andrew and Lamar should use these trades rumors as motivation and play like there was no tomorrow..


I agree...With Kobe's hunger, I don't think we'll be anything under a 5th seed this season. I can see us grabbing the 3rd or 4th seed easily...PeACe
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: wcsoldier on July 11, 2007, 10:54:22 AM
^^^^ Lakers was at the third spot before all the injuries...
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 11, 2007, 10:54:38 AM
niether were the lakers yet u still reffered to them as an elite team

Ummm, yes they were...We had a top record in the league and were beating all the great teams by December, before the injury pile-up...Many people were calling us elite by that point...PeACe
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: wcsoldier on July 11, 2007, 11:06:51 AM
I'm not mad...


PG Derek Fisher...Jordan Farmar/Javaris Crittenton
SG Kobe Bryant...Mo Evans/Sasha Vujacic
SF Luke Walton...Vladimir Radmanovic
PF Lamar Odom...Ronny Turiaf/Brian Cook
C Andrew Bynum...Kwame Brown


CHRIS MIHM, TAKE THE VETS MIN!!!
if everybody is on the same page, no major injuries and a better defense, I think the 4th seed is a realistic goal.. Andrew and Lamar should use these trades rumors as motivation and play like there was no tomorrow..


I agree...With Kobe's hunger, I don't think we'll be anything under a 5th seed this season. I can see us grabbing the 3rd or 4th seed easily...PeACe
I just think Kobe has to realize he has over reacted (as I had myself).. he was very frustrated (as some Lakers fans were including me) but I think we have to calm down and have in mind blockbuster trades are very rare and difficult ... of course I still ain't pleased with the FO but you don't easily become instant contender .. but let's focus with the team we currently have and be REAL contenders in 08-09... 2nd round next year has to be a goal to achieve... the only pb is patience and Kobe can't be said in the same sentence
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 11, 2007, 11:32:53 AM
^^I think the league is so week that contending will be mainly about effort...even next year.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Garth Brooks on July 11, 2007, 02:34:58 PM
im happy fisher is back. I was sad when we let him go to GS very happy he has returned
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Don Jacob on July 11, 2007, 05:52:36 PM
fisher is the perfect solution, he should never have left in the first place


1. he knows the system
2. he's a relyable point guard, who knows hwo to work with kobe
3. he provides much needed leadership, and experience.


what more could you ask for for 16 mil?
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 11, 2007, 05:56:09 PM
I don't understand y'all. We desperately need a point guard who can run the triangle and who can be a good teacher for our three young reserves (Vujacic is 23, Farmar is 21 and Crittenton is still 19), and Fisher has all those qualities we need. He's a veteran, he got a big paycut (he lost $ 21 millions, leaving Utah), he's a friend of Kobe, he can defend, he knows triangle and he has Playoff experience. Shit, he's perfect. He's def better than Steve Blake, if you ask me. Plus i'm confident in Crittenton: he'll shine in 1-2 years.

Forreal. And once you consider that Smush Parker was our starting PG for the last 2 years, I'd think everyone would be jumping for joy. Glad to have him back.

Now, dump Odom and get me Gasol...the one in Memphis!
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Don Jacob on July 11, 2007, 05:57:29 PM
I don't understand y'all. We desperately need a point guard who can run the triangle and who can be a good teacher for our three young reserves (Vujacic is 23, Farmar is 21 and Crittenton is still 19), and Fisher has all those qualities we need. He's a veteran, he got a big paycut (he lost $ 21 millions, leaving Utah), he's a friend of Kobe, he can defend, he knows triangle and he has Playoff experience. Shit, he's perfect. He's def better than Steve Blake, if you ask me. Plus i'm confident in Crittenton: he'll shine in 1-2 years.

Forreal. And once you consider that Smush Parker was our starting PG for the last 2 years, I'd think everyone would be jumping for joy. Glad to have him back.

Now, dump Odom and get me Gasol...the one in Memphis!

the los angeles Gasol's
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Vegasmac25 on July 14, 2007, 12:58:08 AM
i would rather keep Odom over Gasol and O'Neal.I say trade Odom for KG thats it period no one else.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Juronimo on July 14, 2007, 09:47:23 AM
This move is getting hated on hard on Clublakers, but I like the move for the most part. I'm not thrilled with the dollar amount, it should be for something like 2 years 7 mil with a team option for a 3rd, but ehh...

He provides some stability, and he won't cower under Kobe's massive ego like everyone else on the team. He will also be able to mentor our young point guards and he's clutch as hell in the playoffs. Who besides me would have rather had Derek Fisher as our starting point guard instead of Smush Parker the last 2 years? We probably would have gotten past Phoenix in '06 if that was the case.

Yeah, he's past his prime, but this is a big upgrade from Smush.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: wcsoldier on July 14, 2007, 09:53:06 AM
^^^^ Most of the ClubLakers members would still talk shit even if we acquired Garnett.. Luke resigining got a lot of hate too..
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Bch on July 14, 2007, 10:10:20 AM
FISHER?? DID HE EVEN START OVER THERE AT UTAH??

fisher sucks, and hes well over paid for that amount you laker fans sure know how to POLISH A TURD

lakers should honestly let go of kobe that organization doesnt know what the hell they are doing, they need to add another star player for kobe everyone knows this instead they go out and get Fisher?? and LOL! at 5th seed try the bottom tier


kobe cant do it all with a bunch of CBA players, and bench warmers
odoms the only legitamate player , rest of the players are garbage
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Juronimo on July 14, 2007, 11:07:47 AM
FISHER?? DID HE EVEN START OVER THERE AT UTAH??

fisher sucks, and hes well over paid for that amount you laker fans sure know how to POLISH A TURD

lakers should honestly let go of kobe that organization doesnt know what the hell they are doing, they need to add another star player for kobe everyone knows this instead they go out and get Fisher?? and LOL! at 5th seed try the bottom tier


kobe cant do it all with a bunch of CBA players, and bench warmers
odoms the only legitamate player , rest of the players are garbage

You must not have seen Smush and Sasha play last season. It was enough to make any Laker fan turn suicidal.

Yeah, Fisher is not a star, he's past his prime, but he knows how to play and he's a winner.

Also, getting star players isn't as easy as snapping your fingers. When Kobe got PMS and went on his bitchfest, it ruined any leverage the Lakers had for making trades. Other GM's know we're in a bind and they will try to rake us over the coals. Also, our only realistic trade bait right now is Odom and Bynum, and possibly Kwame Brown's expiring K. That is all we have to work with. You comapre that with another team, like the Bulls, who have a ton of young talent and you see what kind of position we're in.

If we dump Odom and Bynum for Jermaine O'neal, it's basically a lateral move. JO is injury prone and costs 20 mil per for the next 3 years. KG? Forget it, now happening. Artest? Yeah sure, the Maloofs will deal with us. Not to mention Artest has destroyed every team he's been on. So what star player are we supposed to just have appear out of thin air?

Exactly.

What we need are role players who know what the fuck they're doing. Fisher is a start, but obviously more moves need to be made. The Laker FO needs to look at the smaller moves instead of making expensive lateral moves to appease The Whiner.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: GangstaBoogy on July 14, 2007, 11:59:19 AM
^ Gasol nigga! He wants out of Memphis, him and Kobe just had a discussion about how disgruntled they are with their organizations, and he's affordable (him for Odom would work but we would have to throw in probably a draft pick or Farmar or somethin).
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: wcsoldier on July 14, 2007, 12:20:54 PM
^^^^ Gasol ain't going nowhere... especially if  Memphis has to bring his good friend Navarro ... I agree with Juronimo to a certain extent but then again our option are limited when it comes to bring role players i.e the vet min..
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Antonio_ on July 14, 2007, 12:48:41 PM
FISHER?? DID HE EVEN START OVER THERE AT UTAH??

fisher sucks, and hes well over paid for that amount you laker fans sure know how to POLISH A TURD

lakers should honestly let go of kobe that organization doesnt know what the hell they are doing, they need to add another star player for kobe everyone knows this instead they go out and get Fisher?? and LOL! at 5th seed try the bottom tier


kobe cant do it all with a bunch of CBA players, and bench warmers
odoms the only legitamate player , rest of the players are garbage

Sorry but this whole post is pretty ignorant. First of all, he has started in 365 regular season games and 82 playoff games, just to let you know. And yes, he was a starter over there in Utah last season. Not only he has started quite a few times in his career (even tho he has always been used as the backup point guard who played more minutes than the starter, you know.. Remember your man Gary Payton? He was on the bench in the clutch moments, with Fisher playing instead of him..), but he was been a co-captain of a team too, and he'll be a co-captain for the Lakers too. But that's not the point: the point is that, since we already have 3 young point guards, we had to sign a veteran player who could teach our young guys how to defend, how to lead a team, how to have that killer instinct we missed in the last two seasons (and i think you remember him being clutch a couple of times during the playoff..). He's the guy we were looking for. Plus he knows triangle very well, and he's a personal friend of Kobe. What can you ask more? Well, being you a Heat fan i think you shouldn't even really care. I'm happy about him coming back. That's enought.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Juronimo on July 14, 2007, 12:55:52 PM
^^^^ Gasol ain't going nowhere... especially if  Memphis has to bring his good friend Navarro ... I agree with Juronimo to a certain extent but then again our option are limited when it comes to bring role players i.e the vet min..

I agree, Gasol ain't going nowhere. Memphis is trying to build around him as we speak. No way they give him up at this point.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 14, 2007, 03:13:40 PM
FISHER?? DID HE EVEN START OVER THERE AT UTAH??

fisher sucks, and hes well over paid for that amount you laker fans sure know how to POLISH A TURD

lakers should honestly let go of kobe that organization doesnt know what the hell they are doing, they need to add another star player for kobe everyone knows this instead they go out and get Fisher?? and LOL! at 5th seed try the bottom tier


kobe cant do it all with a bunch of CBA players, and bench warmers
odoms the only legitamate player , rest of the players are garbage

Tell me, genius, who was better that was available for the MLE? Huh? For your info, Fisher did start for Utah and had a spectacular run with them in the playoffs, playing a key role as a leader. Fisher is familiar with the triangle and won 3 rings as the starting point guard for the Lakers...Stop the hating, we can only make a big move through a trade...PeACe
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: 7even on July 14, 2007, 03:59:33 PM
lmao@LA niggas still dreamin about havin kobe next year
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 14, 2007, 08:48:41 PM
lmao@LA niggas still dreamin about havin kobe next year


lmao@German whiteboys who say "nigga" and have fascinations with the Lakers/Kobe because a Laker offseason is more entertaining than a Mavs playoff run
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: d-nice on July 14, 2007, 09:16:20 PM
I think it is a good pickup for the Lakers. Definitely gives Kobe a proven, clutch outside shooter and the D can't collapse as much on Kobe if he can drive and kick to Fisher for open 3's because unlike Smush, D-Fish is a good 3 shooter.
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: 7even on July 15, 2007, 02:11:09 AM
lmao@LA niggas still dreamin about havin kobe next year


lmao@German whiteboys who say "nigga" and have fascinations with the Lakers/Kobe because a Laker offseason is more entertaining than a Mavs playoff run

lmao@elior catchin feelings
Title: Re: Derek Fisher is a Los Angeles Laker.......Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 15, 2007, 10:24:32 AM
lmao@LA niggas still dreamin about havin kobe next year


lmao@German whiteboys who say "nigga" and have fascinations with the Lakers/Kobe because a Laker offseason is more entertaining than a Mavs playoff run

lmao@elior catchin feelings


lmao@hanson singing mmbop