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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Fatdodger on July 15, 2007, 07:50:14 PM
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There is no new west its just west thats it that why WC got mad than you have all these new rappers aplogizing but they still talk about new west fuck that shit you dont hear new east or new south and thats why we dont have no unity
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Ha Ha ;D
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"Pop, Lock & Drop It" Huey? U gotta be shittin me.....
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There is no new west its just west thats it that why WC got mad than you have all these new rappers aplogizing but they still talk about new west fuck that shit you dont hear new east or new south and thats why we dont have no unity
YOUR A FAG
NEW WEST!
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There really is no "new west" though. Think about all the west coast rappers that put noticable records out recently. E-40, Ice Cube, DJ Quik, Too Short, Snoop, Tha Dogg Pound, Game, Turf Talk, Mistah FAB. Out of that list, only 3 are relatively new artists (Game, FAB, Turf Talk) and only 1 of those 3 had any sort of mainstream success. Most of the people on this forum are only looking forward to generations old artists records dropping, not the newer guys.
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There really is no "new west" though. Think about all the west coast rappers that put noticable records out recently. E-40, Ice Cube, DJ Quik, Too Short, Snoop, Tha Dogg Pound, Game, Turf Talk, Mistah FAB. Out of that list, only 3 are relatively new artists (Game, FAB, Turf Talk) and only 1 of those 3 had any sort of mainstream success. Most of the people on this forum are only looking forward to generations old artists records dropping, not the newer guys.
Just the old guys? Really?
I bet a mad bunch of people here are waiting for Omar Cruz, Bishop Lamont, G. Malone, Young MayLay...
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bla, bla, bla...
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FUCK ALL THIS OLD WEST NEW WEST TYPE SHIT, WHO EVER THE FUCK IS PUTTING OUT SOME REALLL SHIT N SOME NEW SHIT, SOME DOPE ASS MUSIC I CAN FEEL, THEN THATS WHAT IM FUCKIN WITH, IT COULD BE THE ANCIENT WEST, OLD WEST, NEW WEST OR ANYTHING I DONT GIVE A FUCK, MUSIC IS MUSIC, LETS GET THIS NIGGGAGSSS!!!!!!!
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It's a marketing plan. People would rather hear songs about weed, women, cars, guns etc from people like Cube, Snoop, Game etc then a new artist. Also a lot of people are getting tired of that, so by saying the NEW WEST its saying that the west has changed and that its no longer relying on the old west, in the hope of gaining popularity again. However most of the NEW WEST spits exactly the same stuff as the old west and the west still suffers from the problem of artists needing to be co-sgined by people like Snoop, Dre, Cube to blow up.
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^^^STR8 THE FUCK UP!!!!!
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the only thing new in the west was hyphy & thizz and the guy who brought that to us has been shot.
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There is no new west its just west thats it that why WC got mad than you have all these new rappers aplogizing but they still talk about new west fuck that shit you dont hear new east or new south and thats why we dont have no unity
shut your european ass up 8)
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I think I spoke on this before!!! It ain't no New West!! When mutha fuckas go name droppin who the new west is and leave names out, thats direspectful as fuck. Fuck any and everybody claimin a New West and whoever got a problem wit me sayin that they can holla at Flixx about it. The West was here b4 and it's always gone b here
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I think I spoke on this before!!! It ain't no New West!! When mutha fuckas go name droppin who the new west is and leave names out, thats direspectful as fuck. Fuck any and everybody claimin a New West and whoever got a problem wit me sayin that they can holla at Flixx about it. The West was here b4 and it's always gone b here
Co-sign. West coast is West coast, new and established artists. People really need to get off that divide and conquer bullshit.
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can't really call it "New" because these new artists hating on each other and not supporting each other
The only coast right now who got the unity is the South. As soon as Ny rappers stop tryin to bring New York back, and get that stupid mentality out they heads, they be alright.
Westcoast Rappers, New and old, gotta be united. But their not.
Anyone think if Crooked I released albums years ago, he be part of this New West Movement?
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I think the new west is definitely a movement to be reckoned with. Before niggas was sayin’ New West, wasn’t nobody showin us love… If you wasn’t down with Snoop or anyone off of the NWA family tree, you wasn’t getting no shine. I’ve never apologized for what I said on “Honestly” ft Goldie Locc. “New west coast, old niggas just retire!” That’s real shit. And it seems like right after they posted my shit up, WC was all bent out of shape. I’m just a real ass nigga tryin to get mine, just like he is. Honestly, the movement is niggas tryin to make it without Dre. I believe the outcome of the movement is people like Badd Lucc being put on with snoop. I actually respect WC a whole lot for putting on Dr Stank, and other people from the I.E.
New West is definitely a different sound, You got Dirty Birdy and Stank with a sound of their own. Homeless nation, Myself, Crooked I just now being recognized by the majors. Bishop Lamont not giving into the typical, I’m from the west, look at my rag and my 64’. G. Malone refusing “the west coast deal” with Dre. Mykestro sounding like he from everywhere, but on some dope ass westcoast, school of battlecat shit. Niggas are just making their own new sound because the “old heads” didn’t want to put us on… So we forcing our way in.
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I think the new west is definitely a movement to be reckoned with. Before niggas was sayin’ New West, wasn’t nobody showin us love… If you wasn’t down with Snoop or anyone off of the NWA family tree, you wasn’t getting no shine. I’ve never apologized for what I said on “Honestly” ft Goldie Locc. “New west coast, old niggas just retire!” That’s real shit. And it seems like right after they posted my shit up, WC was all bent out of shape. I’m just a real ass nigga tryin to get mine, just like he is. Honestly, the movement is niggas tryin to make it without Dre. I believe the outcome of the movement is people like Badd Lucc being put on with snoop. I actually respect WC a whole lot for putting on Dr Stank, and other people from the I.E.
New West is definitely a different sound, You got Dirty Birdy and Stank with a sound of their own. Homeless nation, Myself, Crooked I just now being recognized by the majors. Bishop Lamont not giving into the typical, I’m from the west, look at my rag and my 64’. G. Malone refusing “the west coast deal” with Dre. Mykestro sounding like he from everywhere, but on some dope ass westcoast, school of battlecat shit. Niggas are just making their own new sound because the “old heads” didn’t want to put us on… So we forcing our way in.
I see your point of view. As for the established acts on the west, some have done they part. Snoop back in the days, WC with Tha Trapp, Daz, Kurupt, Kam and others are helping the new artists out. Now maybe for your situation directly a artist is not helping you out from that standpoint, but there are good people out there that do help. I forgot WC helped put Dr. Stank on. Just speaking from a fans perspective, I could care less if you a new artist or not, I just rock dope ass music. From Crooked to Cube, Mkystero to WC, Problem to King Tee. If it is dope, I will bump it, and alot of people outside and inside this forum feel that way. It's all for the better meant of the coast at the end of the day and for those preaching separation and superiority I as a fan ain't trying to hear all that. Let the chips fall where they may. Mos def ain't aiming this at you, I just want to hear some dope music without hearing it is new this and old that.
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There really is no "new west" though. Think about all the west coast rappers that put noticable records out recently. E-40, Ice Cube, DJ Quik, Too Short, Snoop, Tha Dogg Pound, Game, Turf Talk, Mistah FAB. Out of that list, only 3 are relatively new artists (Game, FAB, Turf Talk) and only 1 of those 3 had any sort of mainstream success. Most of the people on this forum are only looking forward to generations old artists records dropping, not the newer guys.
Just the old guys? Really?
I bet a mad bunch of people here are waiting for Omar Cruz, Bishop Lamont, G. Malone, Young MayLay...
Thats great, but they're never gonna drop, just like Crooked I and Sly Boogy. They don't count until they actually put real records out. Its not enough to put out mixtapes and leak singles on the net. Everybody I listed has had an actual album put out.
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New West just means a new way of thinking for West Coast artists. G. Malone even said that Kam was a part of the New West and he's been dropping shit since the early/mid 90's.
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this new west shit is played the fukk out
LOL @ "new west", niggas in the south of east aren't running around screaming "NEW SOUTH" liike little bitches in every song
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this new west shit is played the fukk out
LOL @ "new west", niggas in the south of east aren't running around screaming "NEW SOUTH" liike little bitches in every song
They Also aren't running around dying for the colors they wear, attending their best friends funerals, or hanging on sunset... It's two different realities... They aren't screeming new south but their screamin, skee-skee, snap ya fingas, and "this the new dance" cmon man...
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by saying new west i think their saying theres a NEW MOVEMENT ON THE WESTCOAST.
i have heard a song i can remember that i think was called New new York. Cus he was saying that alot of people in new york are copying the south so he wants to make a new new york.
i think their saying that theirs new west coast music coming out thats not gonna be snoop and ice cube and dr dre. Its gonna be some new west coast artists.
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I think the new west is definitely a movement to be reckoned with. Before niggas was sayin’ New West, wasn’t nobody showin us love… If you wasn’t down with Snoop or anyone off of the NWA family tree, you wasn’t getting no shine. I’ve never apologized for what I said on “Honestly” ft Goldie Locc. “New west coast, old niggas just retire!” That’s real shit. And it seems like right after they posted my shit up, WC was all bent out of shape. I’m just a real ass nigga tryin to get mine, just like he is. Honestly, the movement is niggas tryin to make it without Dre. I believe the outcome of the movement is people like Badd Lucc being put on with snoop. I actually respect WC a whole lot for putting on Dr Stank, and other people from the I.E.
New West is definitely a different sound, You got Dirty Birdy and Stank with a sound of their own. Homeless nation, Myself, Crooked I just now being recognized by the majors. Bishop Lamont not giving into the typical, I’m from the west, look at my rag and my 64’. G. Malone refusing “the west coast deal” with Dre. Mykestro sounding like he from everywhere, but on some dope ass westcoast, school of battlecat shit. Niggas are just making their own new sound because the “old heads” didn’t want to put us on… So we forcing our way in.
real talk
dudes is fags dissing the new west . no one in the new west is hard to find , dudes stay in the hood
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I think the new west is definitely a movement to be reckoned with. Before niggas was sayin’ New West, wasn’t nobody showin us love… If you wasn’t down with Snoop or anyone off of the NWA family tree, you wasn’t getting no shine. I’ve never apologized for what I said on “Honestly” ft Goldie Locc. “New west coast, old niggas just retire!” That’s real shit. And it seems like right after they posted my shit up, WC was all bent out of shape. I’m just a real ass nigga tryin to get mine, just like he is. Honestly, the movement is niggas tryin to make it without Dre. I believe the outcome of the movement is people like Badd Lucc being put on with snoop. I actually respect WC a whole lot for putting on Dr Stank, and other people from the I.E.
New West is definitely a different sound, You got Dirty Birdy and Stank with a sound of their own. Homeless nation, Myself, Crooked I just now being recognized by the majors. Bishop Lamont not giving into the typical, I’m from the west, look at my rag and my 64’. G. Malone refusing “the west coast deal” with Dre. Mykestro sounding like he from everywhere, but on some dope ass westcoast, school of battlecat shit. Niggas are just making their own new sound because the “old heads” didn’t want to put us on… So we forcing our way in.
real talk
dudes is fags dissing the new west . no one in the new west is hard to find , dudes stay in the hood
They might be in the hood and easy to find, but their music isnt. Their music is still in THEIR hood. Nobody is hearing shit from anybody.
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this new west shit is played the fukk out
LOL @ "new west", niggas in the south of east aren't running around screaming "NEW SOUTH" liike little bitches in every song
Yeah New West really sucks. Malone, Yay Boy, all these new rappers, all really suck. Sure they might be ok rappers, but they make awful, repetitive, unoriginal tracks. I wish Sly Boogy and Crooked could bring back the west, but no label will take the chance.
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I think the new west is definitely a movement to be reckoned with. Before niggas was sayin’ New West, wasn’t nobody showin us love… If you wasn’t down with Snoop or anyone off of the NWA family tree, you wasn’t getting no shine. I’ve never apologized for what I said on “Honestly” ft Goldie Locc. “New west coast, old niggas just retire!” That’s real shit. And it seems like right after they posted my shit up, WC was all bent out of shape. I’m just a real ass nigga tryin to get mine, just like he is. Honestly, the movement is niggas tryin to make it without Dre. I believe the outcome of the movement is people like Badd Lucc being put on with snoop. I actually respect WC a whole lot for putting on Dr Stank, and other people from the I.E.
New West is definitely a different sound, You got Dirty Birdy and Stank with a sound of their own. Homeless nation, Myself, Crooked I just now being recognized by the majors. Bishop Lamont not giving into the typical, I’m from the west, look at my rag and my 64’. G. Malone refusing “the west coast deal” with Dre. Mykestro sounding like he from everywhere, but on some dope ass westcoast, school of battlecat shit. Niggas are just making their own new sound because the “old heads” didn’t want to put us on… So we forcing our way in.
real talk
dudes is fags dissing the new west . no one in the new west is hard to find , dudes stay in the hood
They might be in the hood and easy to find, but their music isnt. Their music is still in THEIR hood. Nobody is hearing shit from anybody.
Niggas kill me talkin bout how they still in da hood, yea they still thier till they get that taste of fame, then they out like a baseball player with three strikes. 8)
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I think the new west is definitely a movement to be reckoned with. Before niggas was sayin’ New West, wasn’t nobody showin us love… If you wasn’t down with Snoop or anyone off of the NWA family tree, you wasn’t getting no shine. I’ve never apologized for what I said on “Honestly” ft Goldie Locc. “New west coast, old niggas just retire!” That’s real shit. And it seems like right after they posted my shit up, WC was all bent out of shape. I’m just a real ass nigga tryin to get mine, just like he is. Honestly, the movement is niggas tryin to make it without Dre. I believe the outcome of the movement is people like Badd Lucc being put on with snoop. I actually respect WC a whole lot for putting on Dr Stank, and other people from the I.E.
New West is definitely a different sound, You got Dirty Birdy and Stank with a sound of their own. Homeless nation, Myself, Crooked I just now being recognized by the majors. Bishop Lamont not giving into the typical, I’m from the west, look at my rag and my 64’. G. Malone refusing “the west coast deal” with Dre. Mykestro sounding like he from everywhere, but on some dope ass westcoast, school of battlecat shit. Niggas are just making their own new sound because the “old heads” didn’t want to put us on… So we forcing our way in.
real talk
dudes is fags dissing the new west . no one in the new west is hard to find , dudes stay in the hood
yeah they stay in the hood, but they also stay being wack and broke mayne
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lol... it's all semantics and perspective... but i agree that these sorts of things if interpreted negatively are divisive for WC hip-hop...
you'll be happy to know that St. Louis now has a lil' inter-city division going on between "Old St. Louis" and "New St. Louis"... with old being Nelly while the new is Huey... this is no lie, check it: http://www.hiphopmusicdotcom.com/huey-vs-nelly-beef-continues-st-louis-boycott-nelly.html
i live in st. louis and nobody gives a fuck... period.
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I can dig people sayin the OG's don't look out for the new artist which is somewhat true. It ain't like the old days...Cube was puttin on everybody..DJ Pooh..Dj Quik..Mausberg R.I.P. we lost a soldier right there...But Only cats I really see showin love out there now is my nigga Dresta wit Tha Young Hoggs..Wit got some hot cats on these streets hustlin from corner to corner My "Cream Team" niggas big up's..It's 2 much goin on out here 2 talk about a New West..You got 2 do 4self if a blessin comes along that's cool but it's against protocol to diss the forfathers. That's the whole idea behind bossin up..you do that mutha fuckas gone take notice. It don't take a deal from a major to be caked up..The hustler is in you!!! That's what the Westcoast is all about. That New West gimmick to me is founded on disrespect bottom line. Fuck That!! Holla at me!!
Flixx
Tha Gardena Ridah
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I think the new west is definitely a movement to be reckoned with. Before niggas was sayin’ New West, wasn’t nobody showin us love… If you wasn’t down with Snoop or anyone off of the NWA family tree, you wasn’t getting no shine. I’ve never apologized for what I said on “Honestly” ft Goldie Locc. “New west coast, old niggas just retire!” That’s real shit. And it seems like right after they posted my shit up, WC was all bent out of shape. I’m just a real ass nigga tryin to get mine, just like he is. Honestly, the movement is niggas tryin to make it without Dre. I believe the outcome of the movement is people like Badd Lucc being put on with snoop. I actually respect WC a whole lot for putting on Dr Stank, and other people from the I.E.
New West is definitely a different sound, You got Dirty Birdy and Stank with a sound of their own. Homeless nation, Myself, Crooked I just now being recognized by the majors. Bishop Lamont not giving into the typical, I’m from the west, look at my rag and my 64’. G. Malone refusing “the west coast deal” with Dre. Mykestro sounding like he from everywhere, but on some dope ass westcoast, school of battlecat shit. Niggas are just making their own new sound because the “old heads” didn’t want to put us on… So we forcing our way in.
real talk
dudes is fags dissing the new west . no one in the new west is hard to find , dudes stay in the hood
They might be in the hood and easy to find, but their music isnt. Their music is still in THEIR hood. Nobody is hearing shit from anybody.
Niggas kill me talkin bout how they still in da hood, yea they still thier till they get that taste of fame, then they out like a baseball player with three strikes. 8)
The point is nobody is getting their taste of fame, and nobody from the West is going to in the foreseeable future.
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Support good West Coast music, older artists and new....
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I can dig people sayin the OG's don't look out for the new artist which is somewhat true. It ain't like the old days...Cube was puttin on everybody..DJ Pooh..Dj Quik..Mausberg R.I.P. we lost a soldier right there...But Only cats I really see showin love out there now is my nigga Dresta wit Tha Young Hoggs..Wit got some hot cats on these streets hustlin from corner to corner My "Cream Team" niggas big up's..It's 2 much goin on out here 2 talk about a New West..You got 2 do 4self if a blessin comes along that's cool but it's against protocol to diss the forfathers. That's the whole idea behind bossin up..you do that mutha fuckas gone take notice. It don't take a deal from a major to be caked up..The hustler is in you!!! That's what the Westcoast is all about. That New West gimmick to me is founded on disrespect bottom line. Fuck That!! Holla at me!!
Flixx
Tha Gardena Ridah
Shout out to the Cream Team. They doin they thang. West up to my nigga Pappy Locc... Whatup Cuzz!
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Support good West Coast music, older artists and new....
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
i understand what your saying but why let guys like snoop and short go if there are people still enjoying their music
support and listen to the music if its bangin regardless how old the guy is
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
E-40 does not put new rappers on?
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I didn't say 40 didn't.... did I? The West in general does not put new cats on. And when asked, the OG cats always have some bullshit reason as to why they don't put on new cats. They want the utmost respect from cats who have no reason to respect them beyond the fact that they were out first. Just cuz you're an OG in the game doesn't mean you automatically get respect. You have to earn it just like the New Cats. So if New West Rapper number 1 says "Fuck these old cats cuz they're not putting me on," he has every right to say that.
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I didn't say 40 didn't.... did I? The West in general does not put new cats on. And when asked, the OG cats always have some bullshit reason as to why they don't put on new cats. They want the utmost respect from cats who have no reason to respect them beyond the fact that they were out first. Just cuz you're an OG in the game doesn't mean you automatically get respect. You have to earn it just like the New Cats. So if New West Rapper number 1 says "Fuck these old cats cuz they're not putting me on," he has every right to say that.
My bad, it sounded like you were saying those OG rappers don't help new cats. Why is it that on other coasts "OG" rappers like Rakim, Nas, Jay-Z, Kool G Rap are honored and revered and here we nit pick at every little thing this or that artist did or did not do. I don't here people talk about WC putting on the Trapp, or helping Dr. Stank or King Tee with Maylay or any other things. Mack 10 reaching out to Glasses or Dre with Bishop Lamont. If that is the case and that is not good enough then there will never be unity. Ya Boy is doin it indie, there are a gang of artists hustlin on they own doing it. I don't hear people sweating Nas or Rakim why they ain't put Termanology on.
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I didn't say 40 didn't.... did I? The West in general does not put new cats on. And when asked, the OG cats always have some bullshit reason as to why they don't put on new cats. They want the utmost respect from cats who have no reason to respect them beyond the fact that they were out first. Just cuz you're an OG in the game doesn't mean you automatically get respect. You have to earn it just like the New Cats. So if New West Rapper number 1 says "Fuck these old cats cuz they're not putting me on," he has every right to say that.
That is a real general blanket statement you are making without any facts. There are OG rappers on the west that do help out new acts. So if they are doing that you need to be more specific if you feel there are certain ones that are not doing they part. And really if you think about it, that is on the artist themselves. But yeah WC, Mack 10, King Tee, Kam and others do help. You can't help everyone, but they are doing their part and so are others.
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It took W.C. a while for him to put some cats on. It wasn't until people started talking shit about OG's not putting on new cats, then and only then did he start supporting up and comers. Mack 10 has consistently put on cats, I got love for him for that. King Tee as well. He put on Tha Liks and Xzibit. But it's been a while between Xzibit and Maylay.... Kam supports the new cats, but he's not really putting anyone on. But I got love for him for that. But just like Cube put Mack 10 on back in the early 90s, getting him a deal etc., a lot of New Cats were looking for that, IMO.
Reason Nas, G Rap, Jigga etc. are respected by cats out East is cuz its not hard for a dude like Term or Joell Ortiz to get put on. East Coast cats have a lot of OGs to back them up. Dudes like Kay Slay, Busta Rhymes, Jigga, Premo, etc. REALLY getting behind young cats and getting them out there. Instead of keeping the spotlight for themselves, they loosen up their strangle hold on the industry and let young cats in. That's one thing that does not always happen out West. So yes, W.C. put on Tha Trapp, but what have they done? Not much. Did Dub really push them? Not really. Glasses was already on without Mack, so you can't really give Mack that credit (I give him credit for Da Hood, but what did they do afterall? Nothing). Aside from Game, what other "new cat" who was put on by Old dudes truely had success? Truely made a dent in the industry? None.
Yes, Dre signed Bishop, but he hasn't even put out an album with him yet, so for now its just a signing. Thats not doing anything for his career (look at Hittman). Don't go giving props to people for things that don't merit the props. If Dre, Cube, Mack 10 etc. supported cats from the bottom all the way to the top, then we wouldn't have a "New West."
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Damn so now it is a requirement for how many cats you put on? Da Hood did quite well on the charts. The Lakers actually wanted to pick up their song L.A. 4 Ya for music to be played at the games but they had clearance issues. Tha Trapp is just starting out, I know them cats and they are grinding out there. You make it sound like these artists have to be on a major or something or put up great numbers to be fully put on. Everyone's situation is different. Glasses actually did hustle on his own to get that Sony deal but I bet if he would have been months behind getting a second deal, people would complain and say no OG's helping him. You think Mack 10 had to do that for him? So a artist is supposed to sit around and have the OG's hand feed them success. Bishop Lamont ain't waiting on Dre to create a buzz, neither is Joell Ortiz. N*gger Noize dropped right here on Dubcnn for free creating a buzz, he has done interviews. So a little bit of work has to be put in by the artists. As for the truly dope new artists that do not have a deal, I do hope OG artists or on they own that they can get a deal.
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Although WC was mad heated in his interview here, he does have a point. Get out there and push your product on your own, stop waiting for a label or og to push your shit. Go indie, have more control over your music. That can go for life in general. Get ya hustle on. And alot of west coast artists are doing that on the daily. If someone can help you, cool, if not, stop waiting on somebody else.
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
$hort and e-40 are no longer west coast. they was at one point, but turned they back on it.
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
$hort and e-40 are no longer west coast. they was at one point, but turned they back on it.
you're lame so they aren't west anymore cause they don't make 90s sounding music ???????
40 and short are LEGENDS they can do what the fuck they want and they help out new cats on the regular so shut the fuck up 90s nostalgic nerd 8)
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
this guy speaks the truth all the time
this thread ain't a big deal anyway because most of those hating on new artists are either soundclick rappers or mad europeans with fast internet connections 8)
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i will say that newer artists do need more support from the fans of the OG's. I know a lot of you do already, but we need more of you out there.
alot of these new guys were broken in by me, nima, and jay... and i would constantly hear the "you promote nobodies" from fans of the OG's.. Now a lot of those "nobodies" are starting to become "somebodies" and they will with all of your support...
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i will say that newer artists do need more support from the fans of the OG's. I know a lot of you do already, but we need more of you out there.
alot of these new guys were broken in by me, nima, and jay... and i would constantly hear the "you promote nobodies" from fans of the OG's.. Now a lot of those "nobodies" are starting to become "somebodies" and they will with all of your support...
True Styles, I know I speak for alot of people, thanks to you and Dubcnn, Westcoast 2k and others in helping to break new artists and keeping us up to date with the OG's as well. God forbid we would have to have MTV or BET do that for us so these outlets really do keep they ear to the streets. Like I said earlier, I support the west coast, all of it. If it's dope, I will support it.
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the whole new west thing is weird, why not...just the west? fukk all this OG rappers and BG rappers n shit, just represent the west n put out good music or mixtapes or whatever, and if you acutually good youll get fame, so what in the next 15 years fools gonna be calling it NEW NEW west?
shits funny,
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i will say that newer artists do need more support from the fans of the OG's. I know a lot of you do already, but we need more of you out there.
alot of these new guys were broken in by me, nima, and jay... and i would constantly hear the "you promote nobodies" from fans of the OG's.. Now a lot of those "nobodies" are starting to become "somebodies" and they will with all of your support...
EXACTLY
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Damn so now it is a requirement for how many cats you put on? Da Hood did quite well on the charts. The Lakers actually wanted to pick up their song L.A. 4 Ya for music to be played at the games but they had clearance issues. Tha Trapp is just starting out, I know them cats and they are grinding out there. You make it sound like these artists have to be on a major or something or put up great numbers to be fully put on. Everyone's situation is different. Glasses actually did hustle on his own to get that Sony deal but I bet if he would have been months behind getting a second deal, people would complain and say no OG's helping him. You think Mack 10 had to do that for him? So a artist is supposed to sit around and have the OG's hand feed them success. Bishop Lamont ain't waiting on Dre to create a buzz, neither is Joell Ortiz. N*gger Noize dropped right here on Dubcnn for free creating a buzz, he has done interviews. So a little bit of work has to be put in by the artists. As for the truly dope new artists that do not have a deal, I do hope OG artists or on they own that they can get a deal.
And where is Da Hood now? They didn't hit. Tha Trapp is starting out, but they still haven't hit. Dudes don't have to be on a major, but being on a major is the ONLY way the West will get noticed. Joell Ortiz made his buzz himself and then Dre jumped on it. Bishop's buzz is thanks to Dre, not the other way around. I'm pretty sure Bishop Lamont would just be another New West rapper had Dre not signed him. Now Dre needs to just put him out. Because, out West, putting out a Mixtape here and there means nothing. So until Bishop gets put on to some major records or something with nationwide spotlight on it, dude is just another Hittman.
I'm not saying OG's only job is to put people on, but they should look out for the people who are going to carry on what they created. And I'm not saying the new cats should just sit around and wait for OG's to put them on. But, since so many of the old cats have die hard fans (DPG, Cube etc.) who refuse to let them go, they (the OGs) have the ability to make or break an artist with very little effort. If Warren G came on with a brand new West Coast artist, people check for him. If that same artist tried to make noise on his own, a majorityof people would not even bother to click into the thread.
Point is, on the West Coast the power isn't held by Major labels or DJs, its held by old ass rappers who don't want to give up their chance to shine.
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Damn so now it is a requirement for how many cats you put on? Da Hood did quite well on the charts. The Lakers actually wanted to pick up their song L.A. 4 Ya for music to be played at the games but they had clearance issues. Tha Trapp is just starting out, I know them cats and they are grinding out there. You make it sound like these artists have to be on a major or something or put up great numbers to be fully put on. Everyone's situation is different. Glasses actually did hustle on his own to get that Sony deal but I bet if he would have been months behind getting a second deal, people would complain and say no OG's helping him. You think Mack 10 had to do that for him? So a artist is supposed to sit around and have the OG's hand feed them success. Bishop Lamont ain't waiting on Dre to create a buzz, neither is Joell Ortiz. N*gger Noize dropped right here on Dubcnn for free creating a buzz, he has done interviews. So a little bit of work has to be put in by the artists. As for the truly dope new artists that do not have a deal, I do hope OG artists or on they own that they can get a deal.
And where is Da Hood now? They didn't hit. Tha Trapp is starting out, but they still haven't hit. Dudes don't have to be on a major, but being on a major is the ONLY way the West will get noticed. Joell Ortiz made his buzz himself and then Dre jumped on it. Bishop's buzz is thanks to Dre, not the other way around. I'm pretty sure Bishop Lamont would just be another New West rapper had Dre not signed him. Now Dre needs to just put him out. Because, out West, putting out a Mixtape here and there means nothing. So until Bishop gets put on to some major records or something with nationwide spotlight on it, dude is just another Hittman.
I'm not saying OG's only job is to put people on, but they should look out for the people who are going to carry on what they created. And I'm not saying the new cats should just sit around and wait for OG's to put them on. But, since so many of the old cats have die hard fans (DPG, Cube etc.) who refuse to let them go, they (the OGs) have the ability to make or break an artist with very little effort. If Warren G came on with a brand new West Coast artist, people check for him. If that same artist tried to make noise on his own, a majorityof people would not even bother to click into the thread.
Point is, on the West Coast the power isn't held by Major labels or DJs, its held by old ass rappers who don't want to give up their chance to shine.
Some of your die hard fans are not checking for new artists. It is unfortunate that some have tunnel vision and only check for their favorites. You are not going to win over those fans regardless. And the state of the market these days even the old rappers are not selling so the labels are really not checking for new talent unless they have a huge following. There are people out there (myself for one) that do check for new music and appreciate it. Foxx, Problem, Ikuestion, Jehuniko to name a few out here on the west I enjoy their stuff lately. Thankfully there are outlets like this a others that are promoting the new. But yeah alot more can we done with the labels, the artists helping out and just the all around promotion of west coast music.
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fuck this topic, as long as there are songs chantin "westside this, westcoast that, cali niggas" there will b no future EXCEPT only on tha westcoast. it wouldnt help 2 git better producers either. music is universal- EVERYBODY cant lissen 2 tha west-west lingo just tha real shit and tha club, wen will niggas learn
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live instruments, shit is key. people are simple and miss the simple shit. live instruments, trust.
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all yall internet niggas crac me up
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all yall internet niggas crac me up
word? Cause i've totally been impressed by street niggas like yourself.
-T
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
$hort and e-40 are no longer west coast. they was at one point, but turned they back on it.
you're lame so they aren't west anymore cause they don't make 90s sounding music ???????
40 and short are LEGENDS they can do what the fuck they want and they help out new cats on the regular so shut the fuck up 90s nostalgic nerd 8)
LOL. :laugh:
your right, they are legends(e40 probably in the bay area only), however, coat tailing on lil jon is sorry. these two have pushed and embraced a sound that magically sounds just like Crunk, but thats a bit up tempo, and tried to artificially get back into the mainstream. its so sad because its an embarrassment to how good they were at one point.
how do you assume that ive discluded them because they dont make "90's sounding music?" they've become sell outs by inhereting a sound from a different region and passing a it as there own. who have they helped out when they themselves are barley going gold? if they would have done a better job back in the day, especially $hort, the original authentic Bay sound would still be alive, and revived by the acts such as Bad-NFluenze, Ant Banks, Goldie, Father Dom, Shorty B, and etc. And as they got more experience in the game, more artists would come from up under them.
that is why there not "west coast." because they have a south dominated sound and influence, they have got caught into this hyphy shit that is played. now that we see its not realling blowing up as most hoped, it will be interesting to see how these two will react and push this sound that is modified from that of the south.
other than that bitch, go take your suburbia ass and laugh at how many times $hort says pussy in Cocktales. and you know the first mention is gonna be more than you ever gonna have in yo whole life...beeyatch!
;D
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Ya Know Its So Funny Cause 2 years ago no one had anything to say about the New West!!!! LOL this cracks me up. We must be doing something right cause folks keep talking about it. The O.G.'s Embrace us Now there was a time when we were on our own so We Mashed as One Till We got the Respect. Another thing Why with Hip -hop Does youe Age Matter???? Like Ya Dont talk Shit about Dave Matthews Band Or Sting George Clinton and How Old they Are Earth Wind And Fire feel me Wake Up Folks This Is Music!!!!!! The New West Is Alive And Aint dieing out SORRY HATERS!!!!!! CalTroit Coming Soon!!!! hahahahahahahahahaha
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
$hort and e-40 are no longer west coast. they was at one point, but turned they back on it.
you're lame so they aren't west anymore cause they don't make 90s sounding music ???????
40 and short are LEGENDS they can do what the fuck they want and they help out new cats on the regular so shut the fuck up 90s nostalgic nerd 8)
LOL. :laugh:
your right, they are legends(e40 probably in the bay area only), however, coat tailing on lil jon is sorry. these two have pushed and embraced a sound that magically sounds just like Crunk, but thats a bit up tempo, and tried to artificially get back into the mainstream. its so sad because its an embarrassment to how good they were at one point.
how do you assume that ive discluded them because they dont make "90's sounding music?" they've become sell outs by inhereting a sound from a different region and passing a it as there own. who have they helped out when they themselves are barley going gold? if they would have done a better job back in the day, especially $hort, the original authentic Bay sound would still be alive, and revived by the acts such as Bad-NFluenze, Ant Banks, Goldie, Father Dom, Shorty B, and etc. And as they got more experience in the game, more artists would come from up under them.
that is why there not "west coast." because they have a south dominated sound and influence, they have got caught into this hyphy shit that is played. now that we see its not realling blowing up as most hoped, it will be interesting to see how these two will react and push this sound that is modified from that of the south.
other than that bitch, go take your suburbia ass and laugh at how many times $hort says pussy in Cocktales. and you know the first mention is gonna be more than you ever gonna have in yo whole life...beeyatch!
;D
damn look at this big ass essay ahhahaha looks like i hit a nerve 8)
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fukk puttin on substandard artists
if they're shit was really poppin, they wouldn't need a og to co-sign them, og's would be jumpin on their tracks!
dre gave you n.w.a,snoop,game and blew up xzibit
he's given back
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Nasty Nem.... one would think so, however, that is not entirely true.... there have been very good artists with very good music that doesnt always get put on...
on the flip side, while its good to have an o.g.'s backing, its also even better to get your own hustle on..
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
$hort and e-40 are no longer west coast. they was at one point, but turned they back on it.
you're lame so they aren't west anymore cause they don't make 90s sounding music ???????
40 and short are LEGENDS they can do what the fuck they want and they help out new cats on the regular so shut the fuck up 90s nostalgic nerd 8)
LOL. :laugh:
your right, they are legends(e40 probably in the bay area only), however, coat tailing on lil jon is sorry. these two have pushed and embraced a sound that magically sounds just like Crunk, but thats a bit up tempo, and tried to artificially get back into the mainstream. its so sad because its an embarrassment to how good they were at one point.
how do you assume that ive discluded them because they dont make "90's sounding music?" they've become sell outs by inhereting a sound from a different region and passing a it as there own. who have they helped out when they themselves are barley going gold? if they would have done a better job back in the day, especially $hort, the original authentic Bay sound would still be alive, and revived by the acts such as Bad-NFluenze, Ant Banks, Goldie, Father Dom, Shorty B, and etc. And as they got more experience in the game, more artists would come from up under them.
that is why there not "west coast." because they have a south dominated sound and influence, they have got caught into this hyphy shit that is played. now that we see its not realling blowing up as most hoped, it will be interesting to see how these two will react and push this sound that is modified from that of the south.
other than that bitch, go take your suburbia ass and laugh at how many times $hort says pussy in Cocktales. and you know the first mention is gonna be more than you ever gonna have in yo whole life...beeyatch!
;D
damn look at this big ass essay ahhahaha looks like i hit a nerve 8)
:D
yo dumb ass just got played. you got called out for something and now you dont have anything to say? thats a bitch move santa.
and if you think thats an essay, you aint never gettin out of your 6th grade english class.
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
$hort and e-40 are no longer west coast. they was at one point, but turned they back on it.
you're lame so they aren't west anymore cause they don't make 90s sounding music ???????
40 and short are LEGENDS they can do what the fuck they want and they help out new cats on the regular so shut the fuck up 90s nostalgic nerd 8)
LOL. :laugh:
your right, they are legends(e40 probably in the bay area only), however, coat tailing on lil jon is sorry. these two have pushed and embraced a sound that magically sounds just like Crunk, but thats a bit up tempo, and tried to artificially get back into the mainstream. its so sad because its an embarrassment to how good they were at one point.
how do you assume that ive discluded them because they dont make "90's sounding music?" they've become sell outs by inhereting a sound from a different region and passing a it as there own. who have they helped out when they themselves are barley going gold? if they would have done a better job back in the day, especially $hort, the original authentic Bay sound would still be alive, and revived by the acts such as Bad-NFluenze, Ant Banks, Goldie, Father Dom, Shorty B, and etc. And as they got more experience in the game, more artists would come from up under them.
that is why there not "west coast." because they have a south dominated sound and influence, they have got caught into this hyphy shit that is played. now that we see its not realling blowing up as most hoped, it will be interesting to see how these two will react and push this sound that is modified from that of the south.
other than that bitch, go take your suburbia ass and laugh at how many times $hort says pussy in Cocktales. and you know the first mention is gonna be more than you ever gonna have in yo whole life...beeyatch!
;D
damn look at this big ass essay ahhahaha looks like i hit a nerve 8)
:D
yo dumb ass just got played. you got called out for something and now you dont have anything to say? thats a bitch move santa.
and if you think thats an essay, you aint never gettin out of your 6th grade english class.
ahaha your long ass essay just proves that you're one ignorant parachutes pants wearing nerd
have fun with post cracker i'm out 8)
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thats a bitch move santa.
(http://dipcc.com/Smileys/Purple/lol.gif)
I'm coming for that ass, Santa.
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The South doesn't have to say "New South" cuz the older heads put them on. Bun B puts on his team Mddl Fngz as well as supporting younger cats like Mike Jones, Chamillionaire, Lil Flip, Paul Wall, T.I. etc. on a regular basis. Pimp C put on Webbie and Boosie. Big Boi got Killer Mike, Purple Ribbon etc. 3-6 Mafia put on Frayser Boy and Lil Wyte as well as show love and support to Young Buck. It just goes on. All the South OG's show love and put on the younger cats.
The West does not do that... at all. There's a reason cats are tired of hearing these mid to late 30s cats talking all this shit, but the entire time they ain't doing nothing fresh. So if you sit here and still support these old ass rappers way harder than you would the new rappers, you can suck a dick. The West will die behind you.
Ya Boy, Omar Cruz, Game, Jay Rock, Clyde Carson, Big Rich, Balanace, F.A.B., Bishop Lamont, G.Malone, Damani, Topic etc. This is the future of the West.
Snoop, Cube, E-40, Too Short are either already in their 40s or are damn near there. Its time to let them go and begin to realize that times are changing.
$hort and e-40 are no longer west coast. they was at one point, but turned they back on it.
you're lame so they aren't west anymore cause they don't make 90s sounding music ???????
40 and short are LEGENDS they can do what the fuck they want and they help out new cats on the regular so shut the fuck up 90s nostalgic nerd 8)
LOL. :laugh:
your right, they are legends(e40 probably in the bay area only), however, coat tailing on lil jon is sorry. these two have pushed and embraced a sound that magically sounds just like Crunk, but thats a bit up tempo, and tried to artificially get back into the mainstream. its so sad because its an embarrassment to how good they were at one point.
how do you assume that ive discluded them because they dont make "90's sounding music?" they've become sell outs by inhereting a sound from a different region and passing a it as there own. who have they helped out when they themselves are barley going gold? if they would have done a better job back in the day, especially $hort, the original authentic Bay sound would still be alive, and revived by the acts such as Bad-NFluenze, Ant Banks, Goldie, Father Dom, Shorty B, and etc. And as they got more experience in the game, more artists would come from up under them.
that is why there not "west coast." because they have a south dominated sound and influence, they have got caught into this hyphy shit that is played. now that we see its not realling blowing up as most hoped, it will be interesting to see how these two will react and push this sound that is modified from that of the south.
other than that bitch, go take your suburbia ass and laugh at how many times $hort says pussy in Cocktales. and you know the first mention is gonna be more than you ever gonna have in yo whole life...beeyatch!
;D
damn look at this big ass essay ahhahaha looks like i hit a nerve 8)
:D
yo dumb ass just got played. you got called out for something and now you dont have anything to say? thats a bitch move santa.
and if you think thats an essay, you aint never gettin out of your 6th grade english class.
ahaha your long ass essay just proves that you're one ignorant parachutes pants wearing nerd
have fun with post cracker i'm out 8)
cracker? look in the mirror if you want to observe one at work to the fullest extent. suck my dick if you cant maintain yourself without gettin your pussy wet when discussing the west coast.
thats a bitch move santa.
(http://dipcc.com/Smileys/Purple/lol.gif)
I'm coming for that ass, Santa.
you a bitch nigga.
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Question for everybody who thinks the older artists need to be puttin new guys on...
Who put the older artists on? In most cases, nobody. They made their own name, which is what the new guys need to do. Quit relying on the next man's fame and make your own or quit bitchin about it, thats how I feel.
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technically.... all them dudes got brought by older dudes... the west coast scene may not have been as big then... but dudes like greg mack from kday put Dre in a good position to blow up in l.a. which led to being put on by lonzo and so forth...
mixmaster spade put dudes on....
uncle jamms army helped launch dj pooh, bobcat, battlecat and more...
sometimes all you need is a break, even a small one... its also good kharma...give and it shall be given back unto you...
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This is a good topic! All I can add being from Cleveland is I wouldn't have heard of alot of westcoast cats if Snoop didn't put them on his records. I think he helps the scene alot.
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shouts to the new west and they hustle but lookout for that west la and midtown movements
www.myspace.com/westlarap
www.myspace.com/4en6
www.myspace.com/spit
www.myspace.com/tuslic
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Move on and prepare. I swear motherfuckers are afraid of change.
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Ya Know Its So Funny Cause 2 years ago no one had anything to say about the New West!!!! LOL this cracks me up. We must be doing something right cause folks keep talking about it. The O.G.'s Embrace us Now there was a time when we were on our own so We Mashed as One Till We got the Respect. Another thing Why with Hip -hop Does youe Age Matter???? Like Ya Dont talk Shit about Dave Matthews Band Or Sting George Clinton and How Old they Are Earth Wind And Fire feel me Wake Up Folks This Is Music!!!!!! The New West Is Alive And Aint dieing out SORRY HATERS!!!!!! CalTroit Coming Soon!!!! hahahahahahahahahaha
a)I hate how artists always respond to threads where DUBCC members are dissing them yet they're never around when we're propping 'em. You can come by to respond to haters but can't say 'what up?' when we're showin' you love? Kurupt did the same shit.
b)the new west is getting hate cause we've heard about 'em for years but haven't been able to buy one record yet from these cats. drop and album, we'll buy it.
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you cant just shit an album out although some albums are shit... :)
Dae One does indeed has an album coming out, he has just been quiet about it... its almost official announcing time :)
artists should post with the good instead of just responding to the disses.... i agree with that...
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for sure, i ain't dissin' him. i like the beats of his that i heard (he did some shit with bishop if i recall correctly...) I'm just explaining that it's not that we don't like the new west, we're just getting cranky without material you know? It takes a good 15 mixtape tracks leaked on dubcnn and this and that to fill up one disc, you can only do that for so long, you know?
not necessarily just speakin' on him, but alotta new cats in general.
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It's all West to me. From Daygo to Sac. No old or new.
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Gotta agree with my boy Al on this one. i don't care if you new or old, if it's dope, I support it. If it's wack it's frisbee material doing 90 on the freeway. West Coast at the end of the day. West West yall.
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that's what i'm saying. Just drop a record, feel?Once you get a record out, it's out for awhile and then it ain't so goddamn new. and it's just music like the rest of it. and that's when real evaluation starts.
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all yall internet niggas crac me up
word? Cause i've totally been impressed by street niggas like yourself.
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by far the best quote in this entire thread.
on topic though, i couldnt care less about this "New West" stuff. if someone can hit me with some music from any region East, West, South and its dope i will support it. i wasted too much time 5 years ago or so checkin for unsigned new westcoast artists and was coming back unimpressed. that being said there is a lot of talent coming out at the minute and i will be supporting, bishop, dirty birdy etc. and if crooked i ever comes out with a album i might just think of picking that up.