West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: I TO DA GEEZY on August 11, 2001, 08:58:04 AM
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WELL.....WE ALL KNOW DRE IZ DA BEST PRODUCER OF ALL TIMEZ.....BUT PIPZ ON PAC FORUMZ (PAC FANZ).....IZ SOMETIMEZ SAYIN DAT DAZES BEATZ WORKED DA BEST WIT PAC...
I WANNA KNOW WHAT YALL THINK.....?
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Well Dre didn't exactly produce alot 4 Pac so u can't exactly compare them, but either Daz or Johnny "J" worked best wit Pac IMO.
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YEA...ITZ JUS DAT SOME PIPZ BE SAYIN" DAT CALI LOVE IZ DA BEST TRACK EVER AND SHIT....SO THEY THINK DAT A NUMBA OF TRACKZ BY DAZ EQUALZ TO 2 OR 3 TRACKZ BY DRE...
SO MANY PIPZ CAN ECTUALY COMPARE THEM....
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Hmmmm, well in terms of quality "Cali Love" is one of the best produced, & best overall trks that Pac has droppd & Hip-Hop has received so i sort of know where ur comin' from.
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A lot of producers did good shit for Pac, but out of all of them Johnny J and Daz did some of the best shit. QDIII also put in some nice work.
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YEA QD3...IZ TIGHT TOO
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daz was best for pac, then dj quik
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Dre
DJ Quik
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QDIII
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Johnny J
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I think Johnny J was the best, then Quik ad Daz. Dre didn't really make that many songs with Pac. I found this at west coast aftershock, which explains the origins of "Can't C me" and "Cali love".
"Can't C Me" was orginally a track with Ice Cube and Dr. Dre for the Helter Skelter album that never came to be. Then DPG wanted it on their album Dogg Food as the first single. But somebody (I won't name names!) decided that no Dre-produced track should appear on Dogg Food (Dre also did a remix of "Dogg Pound Gangstas" that was supposed to be on the album, which never saw the light of day), so the song was pulled, therefore this is a Dogg Food leftover. Then along comes 2Pac. After spending a day in the studio listening to tracks to be included on his All Eyez On Me album, he came across 3 Dre beats he liked: "Cant C me", "BluntTyme" (originally a song with 2Pac, Dre and Rage which later re-surfaced on the Aftermath compilation featuring RBX) and "Cali Love" which was orginally a solo song for Dre's new album The New World Odor: Papas Got a Brand New Funk. "Blynt Tyme" didn't make the final cut. But...after some persuasion Pac decided to go with "Cali Love" and "Cant C Me", so he erased the DPG vocals and Dre's second verse from those respective songs. In other words, you have a truly RARE song from the once-powerful Death Row Records. If and when the original "Cali Love" (with just Dre) and "Blunt Tyme" re-surface, they will immediately become collectors items.
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The original "Cali Love" also had Ice Cube, and was also for "Helter Skelter" originaly...It was never a solo Dre track...
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I think Johnny J was the best, then Quik ad Daz. Dre didn't really make that many songs with Pac. I found this at west coast aftershock, which explains the origins of "Can't C me" and "Cali love".
"Can't C Me" was orginally a track with Ice Cube and Dr. Dre for the Helter Skelter album that never came to be. Then DPG wanted it on their album Dogg Food as the first single. But somebody (I won't name names!) decided that no Dre-produced track should appear on Dogg Food (Dre also did a remix of "Dogg Pound Gangstas" that was supposed to be on the album, which never saw the light of day), so the song was pulled, therefore this is a Dogg Food leftover. Then along comes 2Pac. After spending a day in the studio listening to tracks to be included on his All Eyez On Me album, he came across 3 Dre beats he liked: "Cant C me", "BluntTyme" (originally a song with 2Pac, Dre and Rage which later re-surfaced on the Aftermath compilation featuring RBX) and "Cali Love" which was orginally a solo song for Dre's new album The New World Odor: Papas Got a Brand New Funk. "Blynt Tyme" didn't make the final cut. But...after some persuasion Pac decided to go with "Cali Love" and "Cant C Me", so he erased the DPG vocals and Dre's second verse from those respective songs. In other words, you have a truly RARE song from the once-powerful Death Row Records. If and when the original "Cali Love" (with just Dre) and "Blunt Tyme" re-surface, they will immediately become collectors items.
oh my god that article is 50% bullshit!!!!!!
can't c me was an unfinished track that dre had in his vault before going into jail, when he got out and went to the studio with pac, the tested a few songs out, can't c me was just a one minuite instrumental with with the one melody looped...dre remixed it and added other effects to it...you can download the original in it's instrumental form off any file sharing program... pac layed his vocals over this and dre mixed it all and it appeared on pac's album....the daz just tinkered with it and the edited parts dre took out for that suposed dpg remix...which was suppose to be on deathrow's chronic 2000...
california love was an unfinished hleter skelter track....which means it was an unfinished instrumental, the project was ebolished, and dre went to jial for parole violation, when both him and pac were out and in the studio pac wrote both verses in 30 minuites (if any one saw pac and dre on mtv when they world premiered it you'd know what i'm saying is truth) dre mixed the first version which was the first video (them in the desert) and that was going to be on The Chronic 2....then dre mixed the remix for pac's album which was also made into a video the one where they're partying on there way to a swap meet.
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oh and to answer the question
dre is the best producer for any artist hands down...but other than dre i'd have to say dj quik and warren G
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Dr. Dre [Super-Producer]
DJ Quik [Super-Producer]
Johnny J [Made Gems For Pac eg. All About U And Picture Me Rollin']
Daz [Made Gems For Pac eg. Ambitionz And I Ain't Mad]
Damn I Wanna Hear That "Blunt Tyme" Song...Why Hasn't Death Row Released It? Why Didn't Pac Put It On All Eyez On Me? That Woulda Been Fucking Dope! 3 Dre Produced Tracks...I Heard It On The Aftermath Album And It Was Dope...I Wanna Hear Pac Spitting Over That Shit...Hopefully It Will Be Released...Maybe On Pac's Next Posthumous Album On Tha Row...
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Im surprised no1 mentioned Hurt-me-badd, Hail mary is one of Pac's best tracks but my top3 are Johnny J, Dre, Daz, I wanna hear tha Dre version of Dogg Pound Gangstaz, I really hope suge eventually releases these or at least says fuck it, I cant release so I leak myself to piss Dre off
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i woulda liek to see some more pac and dre stuff.. that woulda been so tight.. i mean tracks like "cali love" and "can't c me" but as for his best producer.. praobly daz or something
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Dr. Dre and Warren G are the best i've heard for Pac's production. I can't believe no one else mentioned Warren either.
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Dr Dre 4 sho ... to me hes the best
peace ...
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Dr. Dre and Warren G are the best i've heard for Pac's production. I can't believe no one else mentioned Warren either.
i guess you didn't read my post
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Dre shouldn't even really be credited for his production on Cali Love... it was only a sampling of the old Zapp & Roger track
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Sorry i didn't read the whole thing.
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Alex_Wreck "Dre shouldn't even really be credited for his production on Cali Love... it was only a sampling of the old Zapp & Roger track "
what Zapp song? cause the last i know about it...Dre sampled a song from Joe Cocker called "Woman to Woman" for the original Cali Love...the Cali Love RMX "BEAT" was not sampled from any Zapp track...the chorus is similar to "So Ruff So Tuff" by Zapp but thats the Singing not the beat...
and Dre should be credited cause he added a dope bassline, whistles, and a shitload of other shit on the original Cali Love...the Joe Cocker sample is plain without Dre's touch...Dre just sampled that organ or piano part...everything else is added by Dre...