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Title: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually killin)
Post by: Doggystylin on August 06, 2001, 03:18:37 AM
I think Nas kills Jay-Z , nas's beats are better lyrics are better and his flow is waaay better, just look at the albums

Illmatic vs Reasonable Doubt
  Winner = Nas

It Was Written vs Vol 1: In My Lifetime
           Winner = Nas

I Am vs Vol 2: Hard Knock Life
    Winner = Nas

Nastradaumas vs  Vol 3 : Life & Times of S.Carter or his comp album "la famila, the dynasty"
           and still nas wins

and the comp album doesnt realy count.

i dont know about yall but thats what i think, now lets see who will win the next battle   jay-z's next album is comin out soon and so is nas's

what yall think? i think nas is the real king of new york
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: NaWsHiS on August 06, 2001, 03:52:51 AM
illmatic is better than reasonable doubt..

but every other jay-z album following that..is better than every other nas album that came after illmatic

jay-z has had better guest appearances than nas in the past years..nas comes horrible when he tries to spit on r&b songs for mariah or whoever...jay-z flows well over mostly anything..

Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: HNIC on August 06, 2001, 04:20:38 AM
i'll go with nas on all of those except nastradamus. life and times vol 3 was much better than nastradamus.
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: DPGC2001 on August 06, 2001, 05:23:29 AM
Nas is most definitely the doper MC...but in a battle I'd have to go with Jigga...He could come up with more dope punchlines than Nas...Nas is a thinking man's MC...All of Nas albums are better than Jigga's with the exception of Nastradamus...And the Nastradamus bootleg was a lot better than the actual album that came out...
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: HNIC on August 06, 2001, 06:11:48 AM
agreed.

jigga would diss nas up badly - his flow, wordplay and punchlines are what makes him easily one of the top 5 emcees of all time.
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 06, 2001, 04:53:08 PM
...I think Nas is the better MC, but I think they are both good as hell (When they trie)...Plus you got it wrong...


1.Illmatic  vs  Reasonable Doubt
        Winner = Illmatic

2.It Was Written  vs  In My Lifetime...Vol 1
        Winner = In My Lifetime...Vol 1

3.I Am  vs  Vol 2...Hard Knock Life
        Winner = I Am

4.Nastradaumas  vs   Vol 3...Life & Times of S.Carter
        Winner = Vol 3...Life & Times of S.Carter

5.QB's Finest  vs  The Dynasty
        Winner = QB's Finest



So it seems like it's been going back in forth like, Nas, Jay Z, Nas, Jay Z...Etc...

Even though I feel Nas is the better lyricist, I have a feeling Jay Z is winning the next one:


i6.Stillmatic  vs  Blueprint
        Winner = Blueprint???



So basically with albums they have been switching off with whos better...


Once again, I think Nas is the better overall MC...
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: Doggystylin on August 07, 2001, 03:08:56 AM
comon yall i want some more replies.
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: Joachim on August 07, 2001, 03:38:37 AM
NIK's on point wit the albums...

Id say Nas is the better emcee, but over the past few years both of them have dropped poor albums, Jigga can drop some sick freestyles though...

And the way i see it KRS One is the king of New York....

Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: Top-Dogg2001 on August 07, 2001, 04:16:42 AM
NIK is on point. I think The Dynasty is better then Qb's finest unless you are just talking about nas, mobb deep tracks. Most of the other tracks on qb's finest were so so. I think Nas is a better mc but you can't forget about the talent jay-z has. He is a great writer. I just wish he wasn't as commercial.
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on August 07, 2001, 08:22:23 AM
YO....IM GLAD TO C DAT MANY PIPZ WAZNT ALL DISSIN JIGGA...A THANG DAT BECAME POPULAR LATELY ON DIS BOARD.....
...WELL PERSONALLY I THINK DAT JIGGA IZ A FAAAAR (I COULD GO ON AND ON WIT DA A"Z...LOL)
BETTER MC DEN NAS IZ ...AND BETTER THAN MANY OTHER IN DA GAME NOWADAYZ....
...I DON EVEN KNOW HOW YOU CAN PUT NAS IN DA SAME CATEGORY WIT JIGGA.....
IN FACT THA ONLY NAS ALBUM I COULD TALORATE WAZ "ILLIMATIC"....WHILE JIGGAZ REASONABLE DOUBT SAMASHIN IT HARD.....AND SO DOEZ EVERY OTHA JIGGA ALBUM WIT OTHAZ NAS RELEASEZ....
....I DON SHARE USUALY PACZ ENEMIEZ BUT...I GOTTA AGREE ON ONE THANG....NAS IZ JUS A "RAKIM" WANNABE......AND DON TELL ME YALL DON NOTICE IT.......
NAS IZ JUS DA EASTCOAST VERSION (OH..AND A MO
COMERSIALY SUCSESFUL OF KURUPT)....HIZ RHYMEZ IZ POINTLESS AT DA END...HIZ GOT SHORT
RUN RHYMIN SKILLZ...WITCH MAKEZ IT EVEN HARDER FO HIM TO CONSENTRATE A TOPIC IN A TRACK.....
JIGGA WOULD DEFFENATLY SMASH HIM IN A FRISTYLE BATTLE TOO......CUAZE YA KNOW....JIGGA CAN FREESTYLE AND MAKE LYRICLY A MUCH BETTER TRACK DAN A NAS WRITTEN ONE....AND BESIDEZ JIGGA GOT BETTER VOCAL SKILLZ TOO...ALTHOUGH NAS SOUNDZ TIGHT TOO (ONLY SOUNDZ)
DATZ MY UNDIEIN" OPINION....AND IM SORRY IF ANYTHANG ELSE WOULD SOUND DUM TO ME....
ITZ JUS HOW IT IZ..... IN MY OPINION....
PEACE...
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 07, 2001, 06:37:57 PM
I actually was gunna put tie between "QB's Finest" and "The Dynasty", but I was feeling "QB's Finest" a little more, I dunno hy...Maybe because of the tight Nas/Mobb Deep tracks...
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: West Coast Veteran on August 07, 2001, 06:43:55 PM
Nas is def a better lyricist then Jigga...
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: RivieraIII on August 07, 2001, 06:49:53 PM

Quote

jay-z has had better guest appearances than nas in the past years..nas comes horrible when he tries to spit on r&b songs for mariah or whoever...jay-z flows well over mostly anything..




U definitely got this right... Overall, NAS is still a better lyricist than Jigga but he should stick to his guns (his style of beats) coz Jigga is one hell of a versatile guy (just like the like the one and only 2Pac).
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on August 08, 2001, 06:51:35 AM
I STILL THINK JIGGA IZ A BETTER MC.....
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: Ultranigga on August 08, 2001, 08:54:48 AM
Jay Z aint the King of New York neither is Nas, Although Nas is a better rapper then Jay Z neither are the King of New York
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on August 08, 2001, 09:18:01 AM
IMO Nas wins hands down. Jigga's aight, he can

write, no doubt, but I've always thought Nas packs

mo' heat. I would'nt really count any of Jay-Z's LP's

classic's but I could easily label "Illmatic" as a

classic. "It Was Written" proves Naz's lyrical skills 2

b some real heavy sheeeet, but I agree

bout "Nastradaumas", that was a commercial

dissapointment IMO.
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: TheSheriff on August 08, 2001, 02:07:40 PM
I_Sleezy, you nonce, you ever heard "NY State Of Mind Pt II", "Hate Me Now" or "We Will Survive"? VERY MEANINGFUL.

I like them equally. Jay-Z brings me mo party shit(ala hey papi and big pimpin)while Nas makes me think. Nnas makes me emotional, in a way only the Firestarr and Pac can. *shrug*

But the King Of New York, to me, is, and always will be...Chris Wallace.

And I_Sleezy, didn't you say that about another of Pac's enemies? *cough*dickriding no-not*cough*

Owen
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: ImmortalOne on August 08, 2001, 02:38:47 PM
Nas shits all over Jay Z. Jay Z just has souless, materialistic rhymes while Nas is a true steet poet.
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: Don Jacob on August 08, 2001, 03:15:34 PM
my vote is for nas

i don't know how some of you can say jay-z is in the top 5 when his skills worsen every time a new record drops, you also show you don't know much about hip hop putting jay-z above artists like:


pac
biggie
chuck d
kool g rap
krs one
ice cube
rakim
ice t


all of which are more legandary than jay-z is
Title: THA SHERIFF-.....SHUT DA FUCK UP
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on August 09, 2001, 07:59:25 AM
NOW LISTEN BITCH...I_GEEZY ONLY SAYEZ SHIT DAT HE KNOWEZ.....DON YOU THINK I WOULDNT SAY IT IF I HAVENT LISTENED TO NASEZ SHIT.....YO.....NAS IZ FULLO SHIT....
AND YOU BITCH PROB"LY DIN"T LISTEN TO ANY OF JIGGAZ SHIT.....YOU DON KNOW SHIT BOUT HIP HOP.....JIGGAZ SHIT IZ A MUST HAVE FO ANY REAL HIP HOP FAN......
LISTEN TO ANY OF HIZ SHIT.....EVEN HIZ LATEST ALBUM DAT MOST OF YALL TRASH.....
"THIS CANT BE LIFE'
"WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN"
"SOON YOU"LL UNDERSTAND"...AND THERE IZ TONEZ OF SHIT ON DIS ALBUM DAT WOULD MAKE A NORMAL
RAP FAN....(NOT LIKE YOU MOTHAFUCKA)....THINK.
OR HIZ PREVIOUS ALBUM
"ANYTHANG"
"DOPE MAN"
.....
OR VOL2
"HARD KNOCK LIFE".....
THERE IZ DIS KINDA SHIT ON EACH ONE OF HIZ ALBUMZ......
NAS MAY BE.... CAN THINK BOUT A TOPIC....BUT HE CANT...JUS CANT....CONSENTRATE DA TRACK ON IT....(I WOULDNT GIVE HATE ME NOW AS AN EXAMPLE OF NASEZ SKILLZ)
AND NO I DIN"T SAY DIS BOUT OTHA PAC ENEMIEZ ....YOU FUCKIN RITARD...
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 09, 2001, 10:41:40 AM
Quote
pac
biggie
chuck d
kool g rap
krs one
ice cube
rakim
ice t



You're right, but from all of them MC's, only Ice T isn't as good a lyricist as Jay Z...
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: TheSheriff on August 09, 2001, 12:14:12 PM
Let's see if I can be I_Sneezy...

LUK BITCH, I IZ ALWAYZ RITE COS MY MOM IZ AN HO...

Look, sucka, I've been listening to hip-hop since I was 5...I'm 13 now. I'm in the business. I'm close friends with Outkast, the Goodies, Memph Bleek and others...

Jigga is good, I ain't denying that...B.

But so is Nas...If you can't see that, you be livin a sad life, man.

Also, as for me being a "ritard", you said you usually don't agree with Pac's enemies about Nas, and about someone else. My memory slips, but I positive you did...Oh, ya, about Biggie.

So, I reckon you should go check yourself, cause when you diss me...ya diss yourself.

Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 09, 2001, 12:24:24 PM
Would you guys shut the fuck up? You're making me lock good topics, stop fighting...
Title: Re: Nas Kills Jay-z (music,lyrics not actually kil
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on August 10, 2001, 09:10:40 AM
SHO NIK....NO PROB.......
JUS REMEBER HE STARTED DIS SHIT......
P.S SHERIFF..... I NEVER DISSED BIGGIE CUAZE HE WAZ PACZ ENEMY....IM A BIG FAN OF BIGGIE........RETARD....LOL