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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: HBKid_Jr on August 05, 2001, 09:31:20 PM
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Who's death affected music more- 2pac or Kurt Kobane?
As much as I look up to 2pac an he is a big inspiration to me an all I gotta say Kurt Kobane's death, for those that know who Kurt Kobane is he was tha singer from the grunge rock group Nirvana. I dont listen to them but when he died it seemed like that whole genre of grunge rock died with him. Even though when 2pac died tha west's popularity shifted back to tha east but that is also because Dre left death row, but eventually the west has gotten back on track. Grunge Rocks popularity hasnt even come close to what it once was.
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2Pac...
1. East/West Beef Stopped
2. West Coast Wasn't On Top No More
3. Hip Hop Became All About Peace And Unity
4. People Always Use Pac And Biggie As An Excuse To Stop Beefing With Each Other.
Kurt Cobain...
1. I Dunno Shit About Him. I Hated Nirvana. So I Can't Say Much.
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They both had there individual impacts in music. Personally 2pac influenced me more because I listened to his music more.
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it's equal cuz look at the records sold...they've touched almost the EXACT number of lifes in their careers and are RENOWNED as the voices of the generation of today pac representing minorities...kurt with whites...it's a tie really you can't say kurt had more of an impact cuz that's cheating Pac and you can't say Pac had a bigger impact cuz your being biast plus it's cheating Kurt, so it's and equal tie
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to me, i didnt really care much for kurt kobane and his death didnt affect me at all.
so pac
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to me, i didnt really care much for kurt kobane and his death didnt affect me at all.
so pac
Same here...
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to me, i didnt really care much for kurt kobane and his death didnt affect me at all.
so pac
.........SAME ERE TOO !!
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to me, i didnt really care much for kurt kobane and his death didnt affect me at all.
so pac
Me 3, What kind of pride do u have when u kill yurself.
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if i was talkin bout whos death affected u more i would of picked 2pac cuz i couldnt care less about kurt kobane but tha question was who's death affected music in general more.
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I AIN A ROCK FAN...SO I DON REALY (IN FACT AT ALL,...IM JUS BEIN NICE) CARE....OF KURT ....
IN MY OPINION HIP HOP, SOUL (TQ KINDA SHIT) IZ DA ONLY MUSIC...DATTZ HOW I C IT....
NO OFFENCE TO DA ROCK FANZ...THO I DON C ANYTHIN GOOD IN ROCK MUSIC....MOSTLY DUM SHIT....
MAY BE IF THERE IZ A LIL STORYTELLIN LYRICZ I CAN SUFFER QUIETLY (LOL)...BUT MOSTLY..... IT SUCKZ....
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Pacs, cause Nirvana was on their way down, and nobody gave a fuck about them, there were new bands on their way, Nirvana was gettin yesterdays news quickly
but do remember Nirvana sold most of their shit befo Kobane killed himself
while Pac sold mo shit after his death
peace
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2 pac i hate rock music
Rock music is just some guy with long hair singing with a guitar in his hands and basically its boring and shit!!!!!
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I think Kurt's death affected music (as the topic stated) a whole lot more than Pac's. Although pacs death is a tragedy and is unfortunate, the music continued in rap. When Kurt died, that whole grunge era of Seattle rock and the whole rock music halted. Everything came to a stop. Nirvana put Seattle on the map musically and also put rock back into the heart of americans. His death stopped all that. When pac died, finger pointing instantly occured and revenge was something people were looking for, although it really didn't effect the music they way Kurts did.
-bpg
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This is an absurd question cuz its two TOTALLY different types of music. Both deaths hurt their respective genres, Kobane for rock and 2Pac for hip hop. They were equally devisating. I think a better question is 2Pac's death vs. Biggie's death.
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This is an absurd question cuz its two TOTALLY different types of music. Both deaths hurt their respective genres, Kobane for rock and 2Pac for hip hop. They were equally devisating. I think a better question is 2Pac's death vs. Biggie's death.
Whats so absurb about this question, so what if they are two different types of music, pac was biggie pac would win hands down. 2pac vs kurt kobane involves actually thinkin bout who affected music more. But i respect your response cuz it was one of tha few intelligent ones, most of them were I hate rock so i give it to 2pac, i hate rock to, some is alright but i didnt let that affect my opinion. If it was my personal opinion it would be 2pac but affecting tha world of music in general it would be Kobane by a hair cuz when he died that genre on grunge rock died
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I wouldnt say Grunge rock died completely though, cuz you still had groups like Pearl Jam holdin it down for the grunge.....
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i was at work when pac died and they announced it on the radio...and i cried............
RIP Pac
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for all the rock haters on this post ....stop being closed minded and open your eyes, rock music is way more real than 80% of rap
and i agree with hellrazor to some extent, it's kinda absurd to ask this question...here anyways cuz it's rap bias...but anyway you look around it they both had the same effect on music...and when 2pac died yes a whole genre of rap halted too....gangsta rap died with pac...grung died with kurt, but both have made semi come backs in recent years
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who the heck wuz KURT?? ???
2Pac
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if you don't know who kurt kobane is you seriously need to slap yourself...SERIOUSLY
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for all the rock haters on this post ....stop being closed minded and open your eyes, rock music is way more real than 80% of rap
i am open minded and have listened to a lot of rock, but most of just isnt my stuff, there might be a song here or there that i like, but i dont like most of it. now this might have not been directed at me but i just wanted to tell you this.
and what do you mean by real?
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more than half of rap is just boasting about what material objects they got, or how much skill they got and how the other mc is whack or about slanging keys of coke and pistol whipping a hooker while smoking a blungt and keeping it "gangsta" it's rare that ther'll be a rapper about real life emotions
half of rock is about emotion and real life, ya know what i'm saying, rock is more artsy cuz when a rock dud writes a song most of the time it's dealing with inner strife and has a message behind it....most rap ain't like that
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BUUUUUUUUUL-MOTHAFUCKIN -SHIT......NO WAAAY......
FIRST OF ALL....JAKE....I"D LIKE TO SAY DAT YOU SOUND EXACTLY LIKE ONE OF MY HIP HOP HATIN-ROCK LIKIN-FRIENDZ........GOD...I HATE TO HEAR HIM TALKIN SHIT..........
....SECOND OF ALL...IF WE IZ TALKIN BOUT REALITY
IN MUSIC...(ALTHOUGH I DON CARE BOUT TOPICZ AS I ALWAYZ SAY.....AND I EXCEPT ANY KIND OF LYRICZ AS LONG AS THEY GOT A SMART -SHARP-MAKIN ITZ "SENCE" IN ITZ CIRCLE-LYRICAL STRUCTURE..... MUCH LIKE EMZ SHIT....DAT IZ MOSTLY FICTIONAL.....)
I THINK HIP HOP IZ MUCH MO CLOSER TO REALITY....CUAZE GANGSTA RAP BASICLY TALKZ BOUT EVERY DAY STRUGGLE OR PIMPIN HOEZ, OR THE NEW LIFE OF A DRUG DEALER DAT BECAME A RAPPA (BIGGIE)....
NOW ROCKZ LYRICZ IZ MOSTLY... JUS TAKIN A COUPLE OF WORDZ DAT SUPOSE TO MAKE A FEW FILLINGZ RISE ALTHOUGH THA WRITER DOENT KNOW WHAT KIND CAUZE HE NEEDZ NO TELLANT TO WRITE IT......ITZ JUS LIKE POPZ LYRICZ...JUS MUCH MO LOUDER AND RUFFER....A THING DAT MAKEZ IT SOUND VERY FAR FROM POP....MAY BE THA VIDEO OF THA TRACK WILL CLEAREFY THA DIRECTION IN WITCH THA WRITER WANTED TO GO....BUT IT DOESNT REQUIRE ANY WRITIN TELLANT...THERE IZ A FEW ROCK TRACKZ DAT GOTZ ENOUGH UNDERSTANDABLE LYRICZ.....BUT MOSTLY BULLSHIT....IT AIN BOUT OPENIN UP......THERE IZ NOTHIN TO BE OPENIN UP TO....ITZ JUS LIKE POPZ LYRICZ......(JUS DAT IT SOMETIMEZ MIGHT DEPRESS YOU UNLIKE POP SHIT)
AND BOUT DA MUSIC.....I PREFER HIP HOP BEATZ MUCH MO.....
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kurt kobane for sure, believe me on this one y'all, his death was a waaaay bigger impact, peace.
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Rocks fine but only stuff like weezer, pavement, smashin pumpkins etc, none of that Slipnot stuff, that shit sucks...
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i'm a rap fan to the core, i grew up with it, i'm in the business...
but my favorite band EVER is Pearl Jam..."Jeremy" and "Black" are two of the five best songs i have ever heard in terms of meaning...
I_Geezy, get a dick, dude. You know jackshit.
Kurt's death affected the Seattle scene. Pac's affected the whole hip-hop scene. Yet Kurt's more or less destroyed the Seattle scene, Pac's just disorganized the hip-hop one.
You can't compare, in many ways...But they, to my mind, are both tragic incidents that have affected me deeply.
And to the guy who said about no pride in suicide(badumbumbah!)...He had the heart to remove himself from other people's lives and no longer inflict himself on them. He's no hero, but he felt it the best thing for him. Don't call him selfish, cause then I'll point out that what Pac did was effective suicide.
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oalright....slap...slap.....damn that didn't work ;D
lol j/k
peace ...
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YO.....I REALY SHOULD GET A DICK......FO YOU AND YO MOTHA.....MOTHAFUCKA.......I DIN"T WANT TO START NO MOTHAFUCKIN NET BEEF....BUT YO FUCKIN
POST JUS AKSIN FO IT......
I WAZ JUS SAYIN MY OPINION....YOU MOTHAFUCKA DIDNT EVEN SAY WHAT DA FUCK YO ASS-HEAD DIDNT LIKE....OF WHAT I SAID....YOU WAZ JUS DISSIN.....
WELL FUCK YOU BIYATCH......_!_..... 8)...IT WAZ DA MIDDLE FINGA .....IF U BITCH WONDA....
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Dude, learn to spell and to stop capitalizing every letter. You look like a wankstain from over a computer screen, damn, don't wanan think what you like in real life.
I've seen you call other people's opinions dumb, I've seen you disrespect them; This is a lil taste of your own medicine, cause, when youse a punk, you need a quick slap.
Also, LOL at Lost-Soulja...:)
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BITCH...YOU MIGHT BE MIXIN MY POSTZ WIT SOMEONE ELSEZ....I NEVER DISS ANYONEZ OPINIONZ....I MIGHT DISSAGREE...BUT ILL NEVER START CUSSIN AND SHIT ...FIRST...
.....NOW...BOUT MY SPELLIN...IF YOU BITTCH DON GET MY STREET SHIT.....DAN SUCK A DICK...YOU"Z PROBLY SOME FAG FROM SOME PRIVET SCHOOL IN ENGLAND.....DAT THINKZ HE"Z IN SOME STUDIN GROOP HERE.....(YEA I USED DIS DISS BEFO....SU ME....).....
TALKIN BOUT REAL LIFE......YOU PROBLY....LIVE ON DISS BOARD.....
CUAZE YOU DON HAVE ANY OTHA KIND OF LIFE....FUCKIN HOME ALONE SITTIN-FAG.....
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How dya know I go to a private school in England? :p You stalking me, batty boy?
I go to St Chris School, no uniform, we call our teachers they first names.
Oh, by the way...
I was born and raised in De Renne, Savannah. My pop worked his ass out the hood. I understand your street talk...But it's when your wackass capitalizes every letter(no offence, Rud)that I wonder.
Also, if you so-called street, why you on a computer? Yo, dude, is it true you white, 15, livin in small town Minnesota, with a nice Jaguar car?
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I_geezy man shut da fuck up wat da fuck is ur problem y da fuck do u wanna start net beef 4 it just proves wat an ignorant bastard u r