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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: HBKid_Jr on August 02, 2001, 08:57:55 PM
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Is Creepin On Ah Come Up a classic. I consider it a classic becasue it was ground breaking. This Cd started a whole new sound in rap. It was accepted by the main stream. It opened it rap in the mid-west. Everysong is a banger except Moe Cheese buts thats because it is the is a instrumental for, foe tha love of money. The only argument Nah sayers have is that it is to short. But besides that it is a classic.
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it's a good cd but it ain't classic
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Hell fuckin yea its a classic, easily. This shouldnt even be a question. Every song from start to finnish is a banger, and its impact and influence alone makes it a classic. However, E.1999 Eternal is Bone's TRUE musical masterpiece.
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it's a CLASSIC...hellrazor will say why...i'm to lazy to discuss the IMPACT of this album...
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This and E.Eternal are PURE classics
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It's too short to be a classic...It's a Near Classic...
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It's too short to be a classic...It's a Near Classic...
I agree. The length of the album is a factor.
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Man dey made hella money of an 8 song album.
It went 6x platinum.
Dats Krayzie.
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Yeah its too short to be considered a classic, but its as near a classic as you will find.
I had no idea that it went 6x platinum tho....
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It's not even 8 songs!!! It's 5...It has an Intro, a Skit, and a Bonus Insturmental...
That means a CD with 5 Songs went 6 times platinum...Damn!
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Just incase anyones interested heres what allmusic.com said about COACU.
When this brief EP first debuted in 1994, few rap groups had been able to attain success that weren't from either California or New York. By end of the decade, this wouldn't be the case, but when Creepin on Ah Come Up put the unlikely Midwestern city of Cleveland on the rap map (as NWA did for L.A. and Master P for the South), Bone Thugs-N-Harmony had done more than just release a great record — they opened the doors for other non-New York and non-California groups. Besides this underlying importance, it's also important to recognize the other ways this EP proved to be so innovative. First of all, R&B had been integrated into rap in the late '80s, thanks mostly to Teddy Riley, but no one had ever brought the vocal harmony of R&B to gangsta rap, a genre still in its infantile years circa 1994. So when "Thuggish Ruggish Bone" became an unprecedented commercial hit (eventually followed by "Tha Crossroads"), Bone Thugs-N-Harmony weren't merely soaking up the spotlight, but actually functioning as minor innovators. Besides their first hit, a song that still stands as one of their best, this EP also features another harmonious gangsta rap classic, "For Tha Love of Money," featuring Eazy-E, the notorious West Coast rapper responsible for signing the group to his label, Ruthless Records— Andrew Hamilton
Laterz.
PS This is definetly a classic, regardless of the number of songs.
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If it went 6X plat it's thanks to me ...I bought that shit 3 times...Somebody stole my first shit and my second shit got fucked up..,That shit is pretty classic though...No Surrender was my joint I used to play it like 10 times in a row...
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that shit only went 4x platnum ...if that, 6x plat is how many times e. 1999. eternal is listed
you bone fans be making up numbers and shit
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that shit only went 4x platnum ...if that, 6x plat is how many times e. 1999. eternal is listed
you bone fans be making up numbers and shit
still 4x for a cd wit only 5 tracks that are really songs an intro,skit, an a instrumental is very impressive an also take in to consideration pretty much no1 knew who they were except those that owned faces of death, they came out of nowhere, look at snoop he had deep cover an tha chronic to introduce himself an same wit DPG an many other artist had guest spots on other albums to get there name out to tha public, Bone thugs came from nowhere, this shit is classic
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Creepin only went 4x platinum, MAYBE 5x at the most since it hasnt been certified in YEARS [like 95, and its almost certainly gone up since then]. Regardless of how much it sold or how many songs it has, ITS CLASSIC, and this shouldnt even be disputed.
Eternal has sold more than 6 million. The last official number I saw was 7 million but many executives from Ruthless, DJ Uneek, and Layzie estimate that it could be well past 9 million as of now.......
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all dope songs + lots of impact = CLASSIC 8)
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5 songs don't make a classic album
if i edited alot of albums to 5 tracks and a few skits and an instrumental i'd have a classic too
4 outta 5 mics
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Yo.....who would have guessed the impact that this release would have on this art form (hip-hop)
This Cd has to be a classic just for it's magnitude...and it's impact...and that tight Eazy-E callabo....It made us all say daam Ruthless is Back....(remember that)
Bizzy Bone is one of my top 5 favorite artists that do this...and Bone was setting us up for what turned out to be the tightest (non Cali-NY) lp ever....E.1999
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Creepin' get's my nod...as a classic
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impact? yeah it opened the doors for the midwest but the only dude from there neck of the woods to blow up is nelly....this album is tight but it's NO CLASSIC
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Ya, nelly brought midwest 2 mainstream, Bone has sold over 20 million records and still aren't really mainstream at all. Dey dont want fame.
Or maybe people are just scared of tha word THUG.
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Actually they have sold over 30 million records.
As said by Layzie bone in the track "Thug Muzik plays on"
and yeh over the past couple of years i've started to think they don't want fame. Half the solo's released are not main stream material.
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Damm, 30 million, dats near pac's record.
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It doesnt matter if the midwest artists blew up or not. The bottomline is, Bone put the region on the map, and they ARE the pioneers of a particular sound of hip hop. As for their sales, Layzie says they have sold 30 million but im not fully sure. I KNOW they've sold at least 24 million, probably more. But no one is gonna catch Pac, cuz he is just putting out too many albums. I aint mad though, cuz Pac is my fav MC.
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Actually Technicaly Bone has outsold 2pac.
He's got many double CD albums which count as double sales. I.E if all Eyes on Me is listed as 10x plat. Then its really sold 5 x plat but its counted twice due to there being double cds.
Bone only have 2 double cds AoW and Thug Mentality.
Laterz.
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If ya'll are saying it's a classic, I can take any album and make it a classic by editing it. Just look:
Xzibit - "The Restless EP"
1.Intro
2.W-Ballz Skit
3.Sorry I'm Away So Much
4.X
5.Don't Approach Me
6.You Know
7.Get Your Walk On
8.Walk Some More (Get Your Walk On Insturmental)
So if "Creepin On a Come Up" was a classic, than a shorter version with only the dope songs of every album ever out is a classic, just because it has 5 classic tracks, right? Wrong! There's no way a CD can only have 5 tracks and be a classic, cuz I can edit any album in the world into being a fuckin classic....
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^^^^No no no. It dont work that way. Cuz if you edit the album, that AINT the OFFICIAL album. Thats just some home made mixed album. The official, in-stores release counts only. And Creepin is a classic, just for its impact and influence alone. Its pretty much been decided by general consensus.
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wtf !! bone ain't outsell or close to outsell pac!!!
faces-double plywood
creepin'-4xplat
e. 1999-6x
art or war-2.5 (double album)
resurection-1 x
that only adds up to 13.5 million
or you can do the overexagerated numbers
creepin-5x
e. 1999-10x
art of war 5
res-1
that's still 21 mil, and that's waaaaaaay higher than what they've actually have sold and if they did sell that much that's only in the u.s.a, pac's sold 35 million in the us. and probably 45 world wide....
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No see Dem fools put together each member's solos and their two collections. So wit all dat it comes closest to pac's in tha US.
And world wide is a different story.
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Pac has sold more but Bone is the best selling group of all time...That's pretty impressive since they haven't had that many albums...Not counting the solo releases...
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I don't really see the point in arguing about Bone sales. Layzie says they have sold 30 million + on "Thug Muzik plays on" and on his solo album he says it on "My Niggaz".
Why dispute it when its been said. If anyone knows how much Bone has sold its BONE THEMSELVES.
All it means is they have included the solo's and possibly the 3 Mo thug albums in that statement. BUT... if Layzie is talking about the group albums then all i can say is. GOSH :o :D :o
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Pac isnt that far ahead of Bone. Bone themselves have said now in THREE different songs that they've sold 30 million. Krayzie says it in a song on his new album, and Layzie has said it in two songs. And yes, we are counting the solos and the Mo Thug compilations.
Official numbers for Bone:
Creepin On Ah Come Up: 4 million
E.1999 Eternal: 7 million
Family Scriptures: 2 million
Art Of War: 5 million
BTNHresurrection: Platinum+
Family Reunion: Platinum
The Collection Vol.1: Gold
T.H.U.G.S.: Gold
Heavenz Movie: Gold
TM 1999: 2 million
That comes up to 23.5 million. Any albums not listed arent certified. And alot of those numbers are VERY old. Creepin was certified at 4 million back in 95'. Its probably up to 5 million by now. Im sure a couple of those solos are platinum now, especially Heavenz Movie. Many excutives from Ruthless and Bone themselves think E.1999 Eternal is possibly up to over 9 million. The Collection Vol.1 is probably very close to platinum. Think about it, alot of these albums havent been updated....
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and neither have 2pac's albums'
all eyez on me had been certified 9.5x platnum for 6 years now, and it's still one of the best selling back catelouge albums
me against the world has been moving major figures since it's last certification
the don killuminati has been 5 x platnum for 5 years now
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and neither have 2pac's albums'
all eyez on me had been certified 9.5x platnum for 6 years now, and it's still one of the best selling back catelouge albums
me against the world has been moving major figures since it's last certification
the don killuminati has been 5 x platnum for 5 years now
All Eyez On Me has only been a 9 million for 3 years now, not 6. Id say its 10 million MAX.
Makaveli is 4x platinum, not 5. And its BARELY 4x platinum, cuz it had just hit 4 million right before it went out of print for 3 years. It has only been back in print for a few months. That album aint gonna be 5x platinum for awhile.
Not that any of this matters, cuz NO ONE is gonna catch Pac anyways.....