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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: MOON KNIGHT on July 31, 2007, 07:02:49 PM
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Concerning his altercation with Deathrow in Vegas...
I know this has been discussed before, I was just wondering if he has spoke on this or Spider in any of his songs?
Thanks for any info,
MOON
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Concerning his altercation with Deathrow in Vegas...
I know this has been discussed before, I was just wondering if he has spoke on this or Spider in any of his songs?
Thanks for any info,
MOON
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As Far As I'm aware he kept it Quiet1
he did talk bout it in interviews, but as far as discussing about it musically, nah he has not, not to my knowledge though!!
He did record a Track With Tha Pound, for the last Dogg Pound Album-Dogg Chit
"Where Ya From'
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The only thing I can think of is Daz - U aint shit ft Bad Azz (Produced by Soopafly). 'Cause before then, Bad Azz was still cool with Kurupt. Didn't mention Spider or Suge and them. But yeah other than that he did do an inerview (which I think was over 30k words lol).
While were on the topic, this proves how much Spider and them are bitches.......I don't care what people say even if it was one on one, Bad Azz not gonna wanna scrap with a whole Death Row Entourage. Thats why Spider Loc can chocke on a fat one. Same with Suge and anyone still down with them...
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We don't know what really happened. Death Row could have been rolling way deeper, but maybe only one dude stepped to him and actually got physical. Bad Azz is like 5 foot nothing, dude is tiny. He would get mopped by most anybody so if they did gang beat him that is weak as fuck. But I'm guessing they didn't have more than 2 people fighting Bad Azz at once or there were people with Bad Azz that got involved too.
On a side note, I had to look this quote up again because I just about pissed myself I was laughing so hard when I read it:
"I seen the motherfucker again when he was with Bad Azz after Bad Azz got whooped on by Suge and them when Daz was in the backseat with his shirt off lookin' like a fat ass animal or someting, like he was fuckin' on drugs or somethin' like that, that nigga was dehydrated, I'm like what the FUCK wrong wit you nigga lookin' all sloppy like that!"
That's jayo talking about the Bad Azz thing in a dubcnn interview. God damn that was some funny shit he said about Daz!
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So what exactly happened with this anyway? Bad Azz went to a club in Vegas, got confronted on by the DR camp and shit went down? I've heard OF this event, but don't know exactly what went down. And why did Bad Azz have a bad relationship with Death Row? Was it because he stuck with Snoop and Daz in the whole beef with Kurupt? I don't know much about DR from that time period, so yeah.
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So what exactly happened with this anyway? Bad Azz went to a club in Vegas, got confronted on by the DR camp and shit went down? I've heard OF this event, but don't know exactly what went down. And why did Bad Azz have a bad relationship with Death Row? Was it because he stuck with Snoop and Daz in the whole beef with Kurupt? I don't know much about DR from that time period, so yeah.
Check out that old Bad Azz interview at dubcnn.com
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I remember seeing an interview with bad azz, were hes doin nothing but diss death row, kurupt etc.
I guess it was from his album Money Run, a speciel edition with a DVD. I dont got that version of the album :-\ - I saw the interview at youtube long time ago.
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dubcnn.com : So what exactly happened that one night in Vegas? Can you describe the night in detail, step by step?
Well, I havn't seen Kurupt since he went with Suge and it's been like three months. Before that, We were on tour together, sayin "Fuck Suge Knight" in all the songs, Kurupt was participating. We were all on some Dogg Pound back together with out Suge Knight shit, right? So, we do our little tour and we come home. The whole time we were on tour, Kurupt was talkin to Suge and plannin on doin business and hangin with him and just bein back with him. So, we don't know this. We all vowing that we don't fuck with Death Row no more and we ain't messin with Suge this and that. Kurupt was agreein and it's like that, no body from the Dogg Pound should mess with Death Row. So, as it all boils down, when Kurupt comes home he goes directly to Suge, gets from checks from him, does some music with him, and gets on t.v. with him. Remember seein him on BET? Well, that was the first time, we were hearin rumors that Kurupt was gonna be on BET. We heard from one of our friends in New York, he called us sayin, "Hey why is Kurupt in New York with Suge?" and that's when we first heard about that. the rumor was that Kurupt was kickin it with Suge. and we like "nuh uh". We don't have any
proof at this time. So we hear the rumor, it's not even a rumor. Someone calls us in California while Suge in New York with Kurupt and they on Hot 97 and Kurupt is anouncin that he is back home with Death Row for the first time. He was like "yo I'm with Suge at the station right now and I'm back with the row." and people be callin up there sayin "Are you still cool with the Dogg Pound?" and at this time, he hasn't heard nuthin from us, so of course he's sayin "Yeah, I'm still from the Dogg Pound. I'm just over here messin with Suge. It's all good." But the fans don't know that Suge Knight been lookin for us to fuck us up! We been runnin around on tour sayin fuck him. So, Kurupt is there with Suge now and two or three months goes by. Snoop never sees Kurupt, Daz was talkin to him on the phone for a lil while
but he lost contact with him. So by the time I see Kurupt, Daz hasn't talked to him for two months, I haven't talked to him for three months, Snoop hasn't talked to him for three months, Soopafly was one of the last ones to talk to him. Soopafly had talked to him about a month ago. Daz had talked to him about a month ago, I hadn't talked to him in three months, Fredwreck was talkin' to him a little bit, he had talked to him within the last month, but the whole catch was he had been wit Suge the last 3 months, hangin' out wit Suge goin' to his house, then flyin' outta town goin' to radio stations together, just hangin' wit Suge! So, one day it was in
November.. I forgot what day it was, like a wednesday morning, earlier part of November, we were in Vegas! My homebody, one of my best friends, he's from the Dogg Pound too Uncle Chuckey, he's my manager and my best friend, he had moved to Vegas so he was out there, and it was just a weekend and I was goin out there just to kick it, on some real hang out shit, it was a poppin weekend, Too Short was givin' a party, Death Row was performin out there which I didn't know, some other little functions were goin on aswell that was tight! So he called me it was a wednesday night and he goes "Yo come out here!" and I'm like "ok I'm comin, fuck it!" "There's a party tonight and there's some shit goin' on Friday, Saturday and Sunday! The whole weekend is gonna be crackin" So I'm like allright let's do it! So he calls me that wednesday night, I get packed up and I roll. I get into Vegas at 3 oclock that morning, while I pull into Vegas I call him as I pass the
state line like "where you at?" so I won't get to far so I don't go to the wrong place right now, Im comin straight to you, I'm in town, I've been sleepin in the ride, me and my homegirl were takin turns drivin, so she slept for a lil while, then she drove and I slept, and vice versa, and then bam we get there, we both charged up! So I'm wide awake, it's 3 in the morning, I'm ready to party where you at? And he was like "I'm at this "Liberaci mansion party, Suge Knight and Kurupt are here!" I said "No way!" and at that time, I'm knowin that it's beef, but I'm not thinkin that if they see me they really gonna just fuck me up right? But I told him, like "Look man, I'm not tryna hang around them, even though Kurupt's here I'm not tryna hang around no Death Row niggaz, we ain't cool with them they might wanna do something to me" I considered it, but I just didn't assume that it would happen, cause I wasn't puttin myself in a position to be even around
them. They didn't see me. Like I know they there but they don't know I'm there. So to make a long story short, they go to another club, we go to another club, they get there first, we don't know they're there and we pull up in the club, it's a afterparty and everybody in town knows about it, so I should have considered they were gonna go, but when I got there, I didn't see nobody. I didn't see Suge, I saw Kurupt! And that was the first time seein' Kurupt in three months, and me and Kurupt at that time, we love each other, we good friends! And he's left the Dogg Pound to go be with Suge, and he hasn't talked to Snoop Dogg, these are all our best friends, which are my friends and his friends, but he hasn't talked to them , he hasn't talked to Daz. I talked to Daz yesterday he hasn't talked to Daz in 2 months. So when I see Kurupt that day, he's like "BAD AZZ!!!" huggin me, I'm huggin him like "WHASSUP!! HOW YOU BEEN NIGGA!" "I been alright, wassup?!?!" and we in the club! And then, the other homie Kurupt was wit, which is like his God brother goes "ay Bad Azz, you one of my best friends too, and the other side
is we came with Death Row! And they in here!" and I'm like cool, where they at?" "They on the other side of the club" "Cool, I'ma just keep my eye out, I'm ready to go anyway, I ain't finna stick around too long" Kurupt already knows they wanna fuck me up, this is why I have beef wit him, cause he could have told me "Ay Bad Azz check this out, this ain't a good time for me and you to be talkin' cause if Suge and them see you they gone fuck you up, so get outta here right now before they see you" and I would have left and never would have got jumped. I talked to
Kurupt all the way until Suge Knight walked up to me and bumped into me like he didn't see me, looked at me like "oh excuse me sir.. OH BAD AZZ!! Wassup!" and I'm like "wassup Suge.." "Yeah let me talk to you for a second.." and I don't know he's on some ra ra shit.. I walk off and go talk to him in the corner. Next thing I know, he says "You said fuck me? You told Ray J fuck me?" I'm like "Oh my god, you trippin! Yea I told Ray J fuck you, you should have told Ray J don't be throwin your name up! It was general, it wasn't personal, if he woulda said Mike Tyson at that time, I woulda said fuck mike tyson too! Cause he was talkin bout "Oh you scared of Death Row, you scared of Suge" and I ain't! Still, still to this day after they kicked my ass, I still ain't scared of them fuck them! But Ray J was like "Are you scared of me because I hang wit Suge and Deathrow?" and I'm like "Fuck you
Ray J, Fuck Suge Knight AND Death Row" Now if you wanna talk to Snoop he might be scared or he might have some other feelings, but you'd have to talk to Snoop, and Ray J was talkin to me cause Snoop wasn't lettin him on his tour bus. We ran into Ray J outta town in Kentucky and it was like Ray J was outta town, didn't know Snoop was gonna be there, Snoop didn't know Ray J was gonna be there. And we all friends! But at this time, Snoop was cuttin all ties with people who hang with Death Row, like if you hang with Death Row, don't come around me. And everybody knows each other, in other words what Snoop was doin' was make the people that knew both of them choose! Choose sides, you can't rap with Snoop and Death Row. You either wanna rap wit Suge, make money wit Suge, or you wanna mess wit Snoop and get money wit Snoop. And if you mess wit Suge, we ain't fuckin wit you. And that's how we did it, and that's what happened. When we went in, and Suge had bumped into me and we talked, after that he was like "Yo you wanna fight one of my lil homies?!" but the whole time he already got it in for me, he's gonna get me fucked up anyway. So he's like "Yeah you wanna fight ONE of my lil homies" he calls like 5 guys over there and they all come surround me, one of them socked me in the face! I didn't even fall down or nothing, I turn, looked at them and walked outta the club, like "Fuck that!" So I walked out the club, Suge came and catch up to me, put his arm around me like "where you goin?
you leavin so soon? we wanna talk to you, we not finished!" and I'm like "Man you trippin Suge, I'm by myself man, I don't have no win, it's like a giant squashin' a bug right now, gimme a pass, let me go, I ran into a fuckin spider web, let me out!" I was like, not pleadin' for my life, but on some gangsta shit like "look man, you won right now, don't get me right now. I'm by myself! Only thing you could do is kill me right now, don't kill me! Just gimme a pass, let me get outta here, I can't win right now, even if I fight one of you guys and I beat his ass, ya'll gone fuck me up, so I can't win. Just let me go!" And he got me fucked up, and I'll hate him forever! He told those guys "Fuck him up" and I swear to god I thought I never woulda made it out of that scene alive man, I pray to god that I'm here today and
I'm alive right now and I can move around you know what I'm sayin? That I got my life, that I'm still here with my children and everything, and since that day, I knew that I would never fuck wit Kurupt again, FUCK him, you know? And when you talk to these other guys, and they have situations, he didn't watch them almost get beat to death. He didn't do nothin to help me!
dubcnn.com : So Kurupt was standin' next to you watchin' you..
Watchin' me get damn near beat to death man. And I would never fuck wit him
again, and now when you ask me would you be cool wit Roscoe, FUCK his little brother, I would do something so cold to his lil brother to make him feel it, that's how I feel. And I don't even wanna say nothing stupid cause I don't wanna threaten nobody or put no fuckin terrorist shit.. but I don't like those niggaz, fuck them forever! If Snoop and them be cool with them, you'll call me again to interview me again, I'll never talk to Snoop again. I don't care about Kurupt like that, and if I do go around Snoop, I'ma go around him to fuck Kurupt up, right in front of him and see what he does, cause I don't care man, you violating, I'll never betray Snoop so don't ever betray me! Me and you are friends, Kurupt is not our friend anymore, he can never be our friend, right? And that will be like that, and if it changes, cool, I know Daz is ridin' wit me, and Daz & Kurupt was best friends, Daz vows he will never fuck wit Kurupt again, due to the stuff that he's been
through with Death Row, the same with me. He hasn't got jumped by Death Row,
but he went through similar nightmares with Death Row, where it's like I would NEVER be cool with Death Row, Fuck Suge Knight, Fuck Kurupt, Fuck everybody who's down with them, it's OVER. So write it in the history books, we were once cool, now we're not, and we'll never be cool again. I don't wanna hurt him like I said, but if I get around him and I see him and they wanna do something to me, oh we can get it crackin now!
dubcnn.com : So who from Death Row was there that night?
About forty people, everybody, Crooked I, Spider Loc, almost everybody that rolls with Death Row.
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/badazz/
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Yeah, that interview was crazy, shit was like 3 hours long.
www.dubcnn.com/interviews/badazz
From 2003!
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While were on the topic, this proves how much Spider and them are bitches.......I don't care what people say even if it was one on one, Bad Azz not gonna wanna scrap with a whole Death Row Entourage. Thats why Spider Loc can chocke on a fat one. Same with Suge and anyone still down with them...
co-sign
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Yeah, that interview was crazy, shit was like 3 hours long.
www.dubcnn.com/interviews/badazz
From 2003!
If Snoop and them be cool with them, you'll call me again to interview me again, I'll never talk to Snoop again.
That's what he said in the interview.. so when you gon' call him to interview him again?
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If Snoop and them be cool with them, you'll call me again to interview me again, I'll never talk to Snoop again.
That's what he said in the interview.. so when you gon' call him to interview him again?
Bad Azz recorded a track with Daz & Kurupt for their last album!
But as far as if they are close or cool, only time will tell, i.e Kururpt & Bad Azz
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Time heals all wounds for some, but yeah I remember Bad Azz saying that. He has a legit beef with Kurupt because apparently Kurupt was there that night in Vegas and basically watched Bad Azz get jumped. But at the end of the day it's up to Bad Azz if he wanted to make peace with Kurupt and from the looks of the video Where You From he did that. Can't be mad at that.
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Time heals all wounds for some, but yeah I remember Bad Azz saying that. He has a legit beef with Kurupt because apparently Kurupt was there that night in Vegas and basically watched Bad Azz get jumped. But at the end of the day it's up to Bad Azz if he wanted to make peace with Kurupt and from the looks of the video Where You From he did that. Can't be mad at that.
Props
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Yeah, everything was put aside, Bad Azz and Kurupt are cool.
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Yeah, everything was put aside, Bad Azz and Kurupt are cool.
Wierd Bad Azz says Crooked I was there but when you interviewed Crook he said he was not there. But yeah either way I am glad they squashed that shit. It was going to get real bad before it got better if they didn't dead it quick.
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Time heals all wounds for some, but yeah I remember Bad Azz saying that. He has a legit beef with Kurupt because apparently Kurupt was there that night in Vegas and basically watched Bad Azz get jumped. But at the end of the day it's up to Bad Azz if he wanted to make peace with Kurupt and from the looks of the video Where You From he did that. Can't be mad at that.
That's straight up.
Bad Azz is a bigger man than me, if I were in Bad Azz'z shoes, I would have tried to give Kurupt the beating of his life for that bullshit.
I had no idea about this, wasn't really following DR after 2001, this is one crazy story
Also glad to hear that everything is cool.
LOL the more you hear about Suge, the worse it gets
and off topic like a motherfucker, but Dubcnn has THE GREATEST INTERVIEWS
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^^ Haha, good looking. ;D What made you say that?
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Time heals all wounds for some, but yeah I remember Bad Azz saying that. He has a legit beef with Kurupt because apparently Kurupt was there that night in Vegas and basically watched Bad Azz get jumped. But at the end of the day it's up to Bad Azz if he wanted to make peace with Kurupt and from the looks of the video Where You From he did that. Can't be mad at that.
That's straight up.
Bad Azz is a bigger man than me, if I were in Bad Azz'z shoes, I would have tried to give Kurupt the beating of his life for that bullshit.
I had no idea about this, wasn't really following DR after 2001, this is one crazy story
Also glad to hear that everything is cool.
LOL the more you hear about Suge, the worse it gets
and off topic like a motherfucker, but Dubcnn has THE GREATEST INTERVIEWS
So true. If that was my homeboy we would have to fight to get that sqaushed. But yeah everyone is different and I'm sure they had a long talk about it and aired some shit out. This beef was one of the few in hip hop where it was like family beefing. Like brother on brother, set on set, waaaay more personal then alot of people give it credit for. I did not like the beef one bit. I agreed with alot of the stuff Kurupt was saying excluding this incident but I did not ride with one or the other on that beef. But it is deaded so that is the important thing and they are back making music together.
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I cant believe Nobody mentioned "Talkin Bout U(My Life)"
off Bad Azz's 2004 Album "Executive Decisions"
It is Track # 15.
Talkin' Bout U (Mi Life) f/Konflict
Produced by Saz Sam Smapler
Bad Azz and the little Homie Konflict diss on Kurupt and Suge Knight 4 REAL.
That shit is fuckin tight!!! 8)
A MUST HAVE for any Bad Azz or Kurupt Fan!
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THe moral of the story is you shouldnt talk shit because one day the person your shittin on will see and beat you to death 8)
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I cant believe Nobody mentioned "Talkin Bout U(My Life)"
off Bad Azz's 2004 Album "Executive Decisions"
It is Track # 15.
Talkin' Bout U (Mi Life) f/Konflict
Produced by Saz Sam Smapler
Bad Azz and the little Homie Konflict diss on Kurupt and Suge Knight 4 REAL.
That shit is fuckin tight!!!
A MUST HAVE for any Bad Azz or Kurupt Fan!
LINK PLEASE?
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I cant believe Nobody mentioned "Talkin Bout U(My Life)"
off Bad Azz's 2004 Album "Executive Decisions"
It is Track # 15.
Talkin' Bout U (Mi Life) f/Konflict
Produced by Saz Sam Smapler
Bad Azz and the little Homie Konflict diss on Kurupt and Suge Knight 4 REAL.
That shit is fuckin tight!!!
A MUST HAVE for any Bad Azz or Kurupt Fan!
LINK PLEASE?
I check out the forum from my computer at work in the office.
I have this shit on CD at my Home.
I will post this track later. 8)
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Wierd Bad Azz says Crooked I was there but when you interviewed Crook he said he was not there. But yeah either way I am glad they squashed that shit. It was going to get real bad before it got better if they didn't dead it quick.
There is some more things that he said that are very different from what I heard from other people (fromt he Death Row camp), they said it was at some parking lot and Spider without knowing who he was got some conflict with Bad Azz and he socked him there.. (or maybe that was something else, if that's the case Bad Azz got his ass beat 2 times by them)
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HERE IT IS!
Bad Azz with Konflict
Talkin' Bout U (MY LIFE)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/iaobrc
Bad Azz & konflict Drop Fire On Suge Knight, Kurupt & Death Row 2004
Enjoy! 8)
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any news when there will be a new bad azz album ?
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So after getting jumped, he makes a diss song??
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thats crazy tho how he said he will never "never" fuck wit kurupt again outta all of them and he is. it dont matter, if someone has done some shit to you and you say that then IMO its over!
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thats crazy tho how he said he will never "never" fuck wit kurupt again outta all of them and he is. it dont matter, if someone has done some shit to you and you say that then IMO its over!
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Argubaly So!!
But perhaps Bad Azz had a long talk with Kurupt, both arist ironed out their differences!!
I'm pretty sure BAd Azz culda have said to "to hell with it All, I'm Still mad" and gotten ghost and stayed Grumpy and mad-As rightly as he should cuz he got jumped on!!
But he was able to see it as an opportunity to patch this up and work on sumthing solid, considering the history he has help create with Kurupt over the last prior yrs preluding that awful incident!!
Eveybody is different!
I would not be sure i would be able to reconcile..wuld be hard!!
Also if oyu notice on that "Where Y From" Vid, Bad is seen more often around Daz, even when Daz is doing His Verse, and When Kurupt kicks his verse, Bad is in the background or you can't see him..kinda makes you wonder
Props
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thats crazy tho how he said he will never "never" fuck wit kurupt again outta all of them and he is. it dont matter, if someone has done some shit to you and you say that then IMO its over!
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Argubaly So!!
But perhaps Bad Azz had a long talk with Kurupt, both arist ironed out their differences!!
I'm pretty sure BAd Azz culda have said to "to hell with it All, I'm Still mad" and gotten ghost and stayed Grumpy and mad-As rightly as he should cuz he got jumped on!!
But he was able to see it as an opportunity to patch this up and work on sumthing solid, considering the history he has help create with Kurupt over the last prior yrs preluding that awful incident!!
Eveybody is different!
I would not be sure i would be able to reconcile..wuld be hard!!
Also if oyu notice on that "Where Y From" Vid, Bad is seen more often around Daz, even when Daz is doing His Verse, and When Kurupt kicks his verse, Bad is in the background or you can't see him..kinda makes you wonder
Props
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str8 up i wouldnt get bacc wit them whether im tray deee or bad azz.
its not bout stayin mad/grumpy. its the fact that when something big like that happens its life changin and you gotta do what you gotta do and bad said he wouldnt fuck wit them ever again.
if something happens it happens, no turnin bacc whoever it is. thats jus me tho!
sides, its not as if gettin bacc wit em has done anything for bad!
I mean what has he done since?
he said in that video interview that hes comin out on thizz. his last couple of albums have been not so good IMO. bad can get his own deal, he dont need to depend on some bigger names who arent supplyin much more heat themselves.
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i COULDN'A AGREE MORE!!
W e don't actually know, nor will we ever be told the exct reason, why they formed back up again!!
I'm not sure they reconciliation was anything to do with promoting musically on a wider scale..It's still early days, perhpas BAd Azz will apear on the Kurupt's nxt album, that one being overseen by Snoop-I'm not going to go into speicfic on album sales, but if that goes well it mite do ok..what "ok" means right now..could be anything!1
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But you are right BAd has not done anything to expand his muisc musically, but who knows perhpas this unfortunatel episode will at least aid in sum way to get him out there..
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Im all for it.
even if Im not feelin the artist (which they are many) IMO they should still get on and do what they do. but I mean fuck do they do in the meantime?
they complain in interviews that they drop albums but the streets dont support them. need to wait years to get a album wit 11.5 traxx wit 3 of em bein skits.
people want muzik. no features, no skits, no wacc ass traxx a album wit 20 traxx, and im talkin about 20 traccs bein 4 minutes in length.
this is why the westcoast is dead.
you cant rely on cube to drop a album cuz thats only 1 person, but at least he does him whether thats sellin out or not.