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Title: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: Lazar on August 18, 2007, 03:13:44 AM
God damn, that song is too good. I never get tired of this crazy instrumental. One of the best beats Dre ever did. Too bad The Firm flops  :-\

The vid is also a straight classic  8)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HM9zpTTZirk
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Post by: Oklin on August 18, 2007, 03:15:58 AM
Hell yeah! Dope track and a dope video!
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Post by: EastsideLBC on August 18, 2007, 03:47:10 AM
That was the shit back in the day.......that track never gets old........classic shit........
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Post by: Elevz on August 18, 2007, 04:37:33 AM
Too bad The Firm flops  :-\

Reached #1 in the Billboard album charts. Went platinum without having a huge single.

...
Title: Re: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on August 18, 2007, 08:20:43 AM
I think people werent ready for this album, it was ahead of its time.
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 18, 2007, 08:37:48 AM
yeah its sadd to say but the firm did indeed flop

if Dre can be man enoguh to say "all you niggas say i turned pop when the firm flopped" on his own single then i'd say it wasn't nearly what it was expected to be lol

but anything Nas and Dre have to do with is gold to me usually, phone tap's beat is indeed a fuckin classick
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Post by: Elevz on August 18, 2007, 09:03:23 AM
yeah its sadd to say but the firm did indeed flop

if Dre can be man enoguh to say "all you niggas say i turned pop when the firm flopped" on his own single then i'd say it wasn't nearly what it was expected to be lol

Are there two different versions of Forgot About Dre out or something? I just popped 2001 it in my stereo, I checked several times, but I swear Dre says
"All you niggaz that said that I turned pop, or The Firm flopped, y'all are the reason that Dre' been getting no sleep, so fuck y'all."
That's like the opposite!

And please get real. How did The Firm flop? It's been the best charting success in the careers of Foxy as well as AZ and Nature! It had the potential to become something totally unique and at that it failed, but it was still in no way a flop. What premise makes you say it is?
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Post by: d-nice on August 18, 2007, 09:23:22 AM
I just remember this group had crazy hype around it. It came out around the time the Fugees dropped. Foxy was coming off a big album, AZ had Do Or Die and Nas did big numbers with It Was Written. Affirmative Action got a great response and so did the Dre produced track on IWW. The combo of Dre/The Firm on paper looked like it was going to do 2-5mil in its sleep. But looking back at that album now, it had WAAAAY too many people involved with it. All the artists were on different labels, you add aftermath involved, just too many opinions I am sure involved in the direction of the album. The Dre cuts were dope, but some of the cuts were bland to me. 2nd- no Cormega. Nothing against Nature but I was looking forward to having Mega on there. 3rd- the guest appearances. Canibus and Nore showed up the Firm on they appearances on there. IMO I thought it could have been better but a good album nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: Lazar on August 18, 2007, 10:35:15 AM
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I think people werent ready for this album, it was ahead of its time.

Yep, your absolutely right
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Post by: The Predator on August 18, 2007, 10:57:01 AM
That beat was slammin, i used to have it repeat on my headphones while i stomped about.

Would of been doper if Dre had rapped on it solo.

The instrumental is  :o
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Post by: Lazar on August 18, 2007, 11:33:57 AM
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The instrumental is  Shocked

As I say. For me Dre did his best beats in that time (about 96-99)
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Post by: thisoneguy360 on August 18, 2007, 11:51:35 AM
Damn, I never even knew there was a video for this
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Post by: Lazar on August 18, 2007, 12:54:31 PM
They also make a video for "Firm Biz"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6aWqxccthsM
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Post by: Shallow on August 18, 2007, 04:43:53 PM
I think people werent ready for this album, it was ahead of its time.


I don't get what that means. It was 10 years ago and today people aren't making Goodfellas rip offs in the form of albums. Are you suggesting that one day a cheezy, kind of a story album, will be common in Hip Hop?


I don't have a problem with an album playing out like a movie and rappers playing parts in that movie. I just don't htink the Firm did a good job of that. It was more Chris Gaines than it was Sgt. Peppers or The Wall.
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Post by: jeromechickenbone on August 18, 2007, 08:53:21 PM
yeah its sadd to say but the firm did indeed flop

if Dre can be man enoguh to say "all you niggas say i turned pop when the firm flopped" on his own single then i'd say it wasn't nearly what it was expected to be lol

Are there two different versions of Forgot About Dre out or something? I just popped 2001 it in my stereo, I checked several times, but I swear Dre says
"All you niggaz that said that I turned pop, or The Firm flopped, y'all are the reason that Dre' been getting no sleep, so fuck y'all."
That's like the opposite!

And please get real. How did The Firm flop? It's been the best charting success in the careers of Foxy as well as AZ and Nature! It had the potential to become something totally unique and at that it failed, but it was still in no way a flop. What premise makes you say it is?

I mean, take these names in 97 - Dre, Nas, Foxy Brown, AZ, Mega/Nature.  Those are some of the biggest names in the game at that time.  Even if it went platinum, most of those cats could have done those numbers in their sleep at that time - shit multi plat (Dre, Nas, Foxy).  So in that sense, it was a flop.  But it came at a time when Dre was kinda in a rut and trying to find his sound again.  I hated the shit Dre did w/ Nas on IWW, it's one of my least favorite joints on the album. 

And it wasn't just Dre, it was the Trackmasters as well.  And keep in mind that NY was really on some popped out, jack 80's joints,  mafioso shit, and it was pretty watered down at that time.  Remember "Affirmative Action"?  That shit was RETARDED.  The Firm album should have sounded like that from top to bottom, but these mutherfuckers dropped the ball.

But "Firm Biz" was a pretty damn large song at the time.  Peeps were bangin that shit when it dropped.  But this album came nowhere near it's potential.
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Post by: Al Bundy on August 18, 2007, 10:28:48 PM
yeah its sadd to say but the firm did indeed flop

if Dre can be man enoguh to say "all you niggas say i turned pop when the firm flopped" on his own single then i'd say it wasn't nearly what it was expected to be lol

Are there two different versions of Forgot About Dre out or something? I just popped 2001 it in my stereo, I checked several times, but I swear Dre says
"All you niggaz that said that I turned pop, or The Firm flopped, y'all are the reason that Dre' been getting no sleep, so fuck y'all."
That's like the opposite!

And please get real. How did The Firm flop? It's been the best charting success in the careers of Foxy as well as AZ and Nature! It had the potential to become something totally unique and at that it failed, but it was still in no way a flop. What premise makes you say it is?

I mean, take these names in 97 - Dre, Nas, Foxy Brown, AZ, Mega/Nature.  Those are some of the biggest names in the game at that time.  Even if it went platinum, most of those cats could have done those numbers in their sleep at that time - shit multi plat (Dre, Nas, Foxy).  So in that sense, it was a flop.  But it came at a time when Dre was kinda in a rut and trying to find his sound again.  I hated the shit Dre did w/ Nas on IWW, it's one of my least favorite joints on the album. 

And it wasn't just Dre, it was the Trackmasters as well.  And keep in mind that NY was really on some popped out, jack 80's joints,  mafioso shit, and it was pretty watered down at that time.  Remember "Affirmative Action"?  That shit was RETARDED.  The Firm album should have sounded like that from top to bottom, but these mutherfuckers dropped the ball.

But "Firm Biz" was a pretty damn large song at the time.  Peeps were bangin that shit when it dropped.  But this album came nowhere near it's potential.

It's a shame mega wasn't on it. Needed some better beats though.

And I have to agree, Nas Is Coming is like my least favorite track on It Was Written.
Title: Re: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: Okka on August 19, 2007, 01:30:56 AM
Classic track, best track on the Firm album.
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Post by: You Ain't Shit on August 19, 2007, 06:18:11 AM
dope song
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Post by: Dre-Day on April 27, 2010, 08:25:41 AM
bump, here's a higher quality version of the video

http://www.youtube.com/v/tQZUedYu0Hg

Title: Re: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: white Boy on April 27, 2010, 09:45:06 AM
that album was trying too hard to be a 'concept album' .. this beat is fucking classic though,
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Post by: Nicolas on April 27, 2010, 09:58:05 AM
Damn i was just listening to this shit like 3 hours ago. Probably top 10 Dre beat. Such a classic song.

Gotdamn at the flip of this sample

https://www.youtube.com/v/DLDEi-r7FDU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLDEi-r7FDU)

Ps. Someone tell me how to emped youtube in here
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Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on April 27, 2010, 10:13:48 AM
classic shit right here! was listening to it a couple of weeks ago thinking to myself : this is still hard after all these years
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 27, 2010, 10:36:32 AM
I think people werent ready for this album, it was ahead of its time.


I don't get what that means. It was 10 years ago and today people aren't making Goodfellas rip offs in the form of albums.

Word.  I mean, I personally enjoyed the album, it had it's moments, Canibus had an excellent guest appearance on there, and no doubt "Phone Tap" is a huge banger!.  But the whole Mafioso thing was a little overdone to me, I mean, I understand it was a concept album, but even Dre admits it kind of fell short and didn't meet it's full potential.  Either way, it is what it is, and I've always liked the album even to this day.

BTW, the best Nas, Dre collabo will always be "East Coast/West Coast Killa" which is one of the most legendary and under-rated tracks in hip-hop history.
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on April 27, 2010, 10:43:49 AM
wasnt feelin the whole album but this song is crazy and mad dope
tuff 1 between this and Five Minutes To Flush
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 27, 2010, 11:03:52 AM
wasnt feelin the whole album but this song is crazy and mad dope
tuff 1 between this and Five Minutes To Flush

no way... "Phone Tap" is a ten and easily the best track on the album, and "Five Minutes To Flush" isn't even in the top 3 best tracks for the album... I put it like this...

1.  "Phone Tap"  10 out of 10
2.  "Desperados" feat. Canibus- 8.5 out of 10
3.  "Firm Fiasco" 7 out of 10
Title: Re: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on April 27, 2010, 11:07:44 AM
1.five minutes to flush
2.desperados
3.phone tap


3 of the best traxx from the east period...hard to choose which 1 is first




wasnt feelin the whole album but this song is crazy and mad dope
tuff 1 between this and Five Minutes To Flush

no way... "Phone Tap" is a ten and easily the best track on the album, and "Five Minutes To Flush" isn't even in the top 3 best tracks for the album... I put it like this...

1.  "Phone Tap"  10 out of 10
2.  "Desperados" feat. Canibus- 8.5 out of 10
3.  "Firm Fiasco" 7 out of 10
Title: Re: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: Okka on April 27, 2010, 11:12:17 AM
1.five minutes to flush
2.desperados
3.phone tap


3 of the best traxx from the east period
...hard to choose which 1 is first

Are you serious? You consider these the best East Coast songs ever?
Title: Re: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on April 27, 2010, 11:28:10 AM
3 of the dopest




1.five minutes to flush
2.desperados
3.phone tap


3 of the best traxx from the east period
...hard to choose which 1 is first

Are you serious? You consider these the best East Coast songs ever?
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Post by: Blood$ on April 27, 2010, 11:30:43 AM
I had this album like 4 years ago but I sold it... regret doing so

I gotta download this one again now after viewing this thread  8)
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Post by: Invincible on April 27, 2010, 11:40:57 AM
Am I the only one that thinks Executive Decision is an awesome track aswell?
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Post by: Okka on April 27, 2010, 12:03:50 PM
3 of the dopest

Do you mean those are the top 3 songs from the East Coast in your opinion? "The Firm" had some good material on it but best 3 of all times? Oh hell nah.
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on April 27, 2010, 01:49:10 PM
their 3 dopest and 3 of the dopest to come outta their coast....yeah they was dope songs and still are...classic




3 of the dopest

Do you mean those are the top 3 songs from the East Coast in your opinion? "The Firm" had some good material on it but best 3 of all times? Oh hell nah.
Title: Re: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: StevenQBosell on April 27, 2010, 11:58:09 PM
I think people werent ready for this album, it was ahead of its time.


I don't get what that means. It was 10 years ago and today people aren't making Goodfellas rip offs in the form of albums.

Word.  I mean, I personally enjoyed the album, it had it's moments, Canibus had an excellent guest appearance on there, and no doubt "Phone Tap" is a huge banger!.  But the whole Mafioso thing was a little overdone to me, I mean, I understand it was a concept album, but even Dre admits it kind of fell short and didn't meet it's full potential.  Either way, it is what it is, and I've always liked the album even to this day.

BTW, the best Nas, Dre collabo will always be "East Coast/West Coast Killa" which is one of the most legendary and under-rated tracks in hip-hop history.

So true, personally one of my fav's from that late 90's jiggy/mafioso era, concept album that falls flat in places, and does get bland at times ("Fuck Somebody Else"... WTF was that shit?) I always said since day one, if that album had been produced 100% by Dre, it woulda been a different story
Title: Re: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: Lucifuge on April 28, 2010, 12:12:41 AM
can some one put mp3 link of phone tap. damn...i lost somewhere my cd..fuck that shit
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Post by: Prof@ssor on April 28, 2010, 06:30:52 AM
i really like the Unreleased Version of Desperados  8)
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on April 28, 2010, 10:22:33 AM
whoa whoa....unreleased?
whats the difference?




i really like the Unreleased Version of Desperados  8)
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Post by: Prof@ssor on April 28, 2010, 12:35:32 PM
03 - Nas Feat. Nature & Foxy Brown - Desperados (Unreleased Original Version).mp3 - 7.0 Mb (http://usershare.net/PersianProfassor/5v4adbp1fnvx)   8)
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on April 28, 2010, 12:44:49 PM
is it also known as desperados part 2? and nas verse if first?
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Post by: Chad on April 30, 2010, 06:42:16 AM
...don't forget that this was the first time Dr. Dre & Mel-Man started producing together....
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Post by: Jaydc on April 30, 2010, 07:55:30 AM
I think this will go down in hip hop as one of the most dissapointing albums of all time.

Cormega should have been still in the group,hes easily better then everyone except nas,and personally I think hes on nass level,he might not reach the peaks that nas does but hes wayyyyy more consistent.

As for the album,the trackmasters ruined it for me,their producting was awful 80 pecent of the time,dont know how those guys were big.
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 03, 2010, 10:11:59 PM
yeah should have been much better.....and maybe canibus in the group also




...don't forget that this was the first time Dr. Dre & Mel-Man started producing together....
Title: Re: The Firm - Phone Tap
Post by: So Much Style on May 04, 2010, 08:00:10 PM
this song, affirmative action, 4 in da morning unreleased versiion, everyday thang and some others are STRAIGHT classic!!
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Post by: So Much Style on May 04, 2010, 08:00:41 PM
speaking of, can anyone give me a link to the firm album? my shit is all scratched up!
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 04, 2010, 08:01:15 PM
4 in da morning unreleased version...whats this?
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Post by: theremedy360 on May 04, 2010, 08:26:22 PM
Classic song on a disappointing album.