West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: LooN3y on August 19, 2007, 02:42:06 PM
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man i always juz look for new a murder rap or a g-funk track is that raw shit ever gonna get any mainstream play again?
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I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.... Gangsta Rap was mainstream because the streets determined what was hot...back then. The streets no longer determine to radio and the companies what is hot... at least not like it did back then.
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Because back then, N.W.A. had a grudge against police brutality. Police say that they protect and serve, but in their language, it was to lie and cheat. Straight Outta Compton, these Niggas With Attitude put the I in retrospective of the black community being backstabbed, surveillanced and moderated. This prevented them from getting radio play.
N.W.A. was late 1980's to early 1990's. Right now, we're in the 2000's, and all the radio wants to hear are American Idols, heartfelt rockers, pop icons and run-of-the-mill mainstream artists. The radio industries are being moderated because of their outlandish participation in payola.
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I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.... Gangsta Rap was mainstream because the streets determined what was hot...back then. The streets no longer determine to radio and the companies what is hot... at least not like it did back then.
:cheers:
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it ain't dead but it will never be mainstream again
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shut tha fuck up, stop cryin, if u want it so bad then learn how 2 make beats and rap.
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it ain't dead but it will never be mainstream again
yeah exactally...it was mainstream for a while because it was new and popular at the time, now its played out/old for many people. Just like any other kind of music
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I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.... Gangsta Rap was mainstream because the streets determined what was hot...back then. The streets no longer determine to radio and the companies what is hot... at least not like it did back then.
lol the so called "street" never determined what is hot and what is not you're dreamin' cousin
Men behind the large desk do (Plus they'are white just too bad) I guess apetite for money has no color frontier.
They did pick gangster rap because that was fresh & seen the opportunity to make a quick buck.Nwa sold a bunch of units of their 1st record w/o promotion.Since then and untill these recent years they all (labels,radios 'n stuff) were pushing the gangster rap wagon.Now it's not selling so the rats leave the boat.Plain & simple.
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wut about wc's new album
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the street did determine what was hot..... and the suits with the big checks followed ...
see.... at one time radio with the exception of a few outlets were not playing rap music on a large scale....
street music that was hot sold via word of mouth .... and some of those songs had low budget videos which got played by a wonderful cabel network called THE BOX... THE BOX allowed people from all over the chance to play whatever was hot in their area, which was how alot of people got the chance to hear what was going on since Radio hadnt committed to rap with the exception of the rap/dance song....
Hard core/Gangsta Rap got its push by these street records having their low budget videos seen and heard nationwide on cable ..... YO!MTV Raps picked up on alot of these songs and started airing them....
The majors started picking up on these groups when these songs caught on with white audiences, which bought a shitload of CD's....
Radio made a nationwide commitment to Rap.... and thats when slowly but surely things started to change in to the system of what we have today....
But yes.... the streets did determine what was hot at one time... from yes y'all rap, to break dancing rap, beat boxing, gangsta, you name it.....
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Yes it is dead forever. Back when it started, the best gangsta rappers were really just regular rappers rapping about gangsta shit with a lot of social issues (police brutality, etc) mixed in. When real gangstas rap they suck (spider loc).
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Yes it is dead forever. Back when it started, the best gangsta rappers were really just regular rappers rapping about gangsta shit with a lot of social issues (police brutality, etc) mixed in. When real gangstas rap they suck (spider loc).
^^ you need to check out Rep Yo Set, real gangstas killing it on the mic!
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shut tha fuck up, stop cryin, if u want it so bad then learn how 2 make beats and rap.
hahahahahahaha funy
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ITS HERE ALIVE & BREATHING
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Yes it is dead forever. Back when it started, the best gangsta rappers were really just regular rappers rapping about gangsta shit with a lot of social issues (police brutality, etc) mixed in. When real gangstas rap they suck (spider loc).
I liked sum of the tracks on the bangin on wax cd, but on the first album bloods<crips
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Yes it is dead forever. Back when it started, the best gangsta rappers were really just regular rappers rapping about gangsta shit with a lot of social issues (police brutality, etc) mixed in. When real gangstas rap they suck (spider loc).
^^ you need to check out Rep Yo Set, real gangstas killing it on the mic!
yea that album was gangsta
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Yes it is dead forever. Back when it started, the best gangsta rappers were really just regular rappers rapping about gangsta shit with a lot of social issues (police brutality, etc) mixed in. When real gangstas rap they suck (spider loc).
^^ you need to check out Rep Yo Set, real gangstas killing it on the mic!
real talk. some dope production on that shit too!
*bumps* song 5. avalon gangsta crip
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Candy - is this not gangsta rap - Snoop feat. MC Eiht , kurupt , Daz , Goldie Loc , E-40 . GOT MAJOR MAINSTREAM PLAY When it first came out and then the video just made it a hood anthem . 8) 8)
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To me the key elements in the gangsta rap was:
A. Tellin the truth.
B. Tellin something new, that people havent heard before.
Todays version TOTALLY fails on booth parts... the closest thing to gangsta rap (or "Reality rap" like it was called) i hear today is rappers like Common and Lupee..
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the street did determine what was hot..... and the suits with the big checks followed ...
see.... at one time radio with the exception of a few outlets were not playing rap music on a large scale....
street music that was hot sold via word of mouth .... and some of those songs had low budget videos which got played by a wonderful cabel network called THE BOX... THE BOX allowed people from all over the chance to play whatever was hot in their area, which was how alot of people got the chance to hear what was going on since Radio hadnt committed to rap with the exception of the rap/dance song....
Hard core/Gangsta Rap got its push by these street records having their low budget videos seen and heard nationwide on cable ..... YO!MTV Raps picked up on alot of these songs and started airing them....
The majors started picking up on these groups when these songs caught on with white audiences, which bought a shitload of CD's....
Radio made a nationwide commitment to Rap.... and thats when slowly but surely things started to change in to the system of what we have today....
But yes.... the streets did determine what was hot at one time... from yes y'all rap, to break dancing rap, beat boxing, gangsta, you name it.....
Styles, you are my brother forever. THE BOX WAS THE SHIT! I remember watching that channel in the mid-90's during my Fresno vacations. That was my first glimpse of Snoop Dogg's "Midnight Love." Classic - will never forget The Box.
If people say gangsta rap has died out, then you are slightly mistaken. The only way you can really catch gangsta rap is if you hit the Chicano Rap scene. Sadly, the genre needs a lot of work.
List of rappers that can handle gangsta rap in the Chicano way:
- Mr. Shadow
- Wicked Minds
- Conejo or any Darkroom Familia member
- Slow Pain (used to do it, but has given up on it due to Hepatitus C issue)
- Spanish F.L.Y. (old stuff - dig "Soy 18 With A Bullet")
- Mr. Criminal
- Psycho Realm
And that's all I can think of.
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sorry but can someone explain to me the difference of a mexican, mexican american and a chicano...I always get mixed respones
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Thats greatthat you guys like the Bloods & Crips cds, I like a couple songs here and there too. but you will never catch me listening to that shit because its old and not good enough for me to hunt down. Plus I think that was one of the more gimmicky ideas in rap.
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sorry but can someone explain to me the difference of a mexican, mexican american and a chicano...I always get mixed respones
Mexican - Pure-bred Hispanic born in Mexico.
Mexican-American - Mexican born in the United States. Law states that all men and women born in American soil are immeditately citizens.
Chicano - Has two meanings:
1. Synonym for Mexican-American in a political aspect (think Cesar Chavez and the United Farm Workers)
2. Synonym for Mexican-American as a street urban lifestyle. Start out with Kid Frost, work your way towards Brownside, take a dose of some Spanish F.L.Y., climb up Cypress Hill, journey into the Psycho Realm and muevelo, muevelo til you witness the birth of Pocos Pero Locos.
A lot of radio stations don't want to play Chicano rap because of what it represents - gangsta music.
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You can blame that half of the rap stations are owned by one bullshit company called clearwater. The radio station is a business and they don't play music because they love it, they want money.
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sorry but can someone explain to me the difference of a mexican, mexican american and a chicano...I always get mixed respones
Mexican - Pure-bred Hispanic born in Mexico.
Mexican-American - Mexican born in the United States. Law states that all men and women born in American soil are immeditately citizens.
Chicano - Has two meanings:
1. Synonym for Mexican-American in a political aspect (think Cesar Chavez and the United Farm Workers)
2. Synonym for Mexican-American as a street urban lifestyle. Start out with Kid Frost, work your way towards Brownside, take a dose of some Spanish F.L.Y., climb up Cypress Hill, journey into the Psycho Realm and muevelo, muevelo til you witness the birth of Pocos Pero Locos.
A lot of radio stations don't want to play Chicano rap because of what it represents - gangsta music.
yea and chicano rap is westcoast rap which is gangsta rap, they dont play westcoast shit period
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WE NEED a throwback section asap
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But that gangsta gangsta shit is played out. For real.
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how can raw gangsta rap be dead forever when niggas in every ghetto is bumpin' that shit everyday. when they stop bumpin' then it's dead. only that ain't happened!.