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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Tanjential on August 22, 2007, 04:32:21 PM
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I believe I'm going to incorporate a series of articles about groups that define west coast music into my 'Going off On Tanjints" column thing that I do.
First, I want to make a list of probably 20 to 30 groups that encapsulate California's sound and feel very well.
1.Sublime
2.Too Short and The Dangerous Crew
3.Rage Against The Machine
4.Cypress Hill
5.Bad Religion
6.Warren G
7.The Beach Boys
8.A-Team(Abstract Rude/Aceyalone)
9.Incubus
10.Living Legends
11.The Red Hot Chili Peppers
11.Dre/Snoop
12.The Eagles
13.Steely Dan
14. Mac Dre/Khayree
15.Tool/A Perfect Circle
16. The Mars Volta/At-The-Drive-In
17.Ice Cube/Sir Jinx/Crazy Toones/DJ Pooh
18.Cake
19.Daz/Kurupt the rest of the DPG extended family
20. DJ Quik
21.Jackson Browne
22..Above the Law
23.Jane's Addiction
24.Deltron the funkee homosapien, Dan, Hiero
Now I know alot of you are going to be tempted to start naming every rapper you like but before you do that let me say that being a dope rapper doesn't mean you shape the sound/your sound encapsulates the feel of California.
Sublime to me is the most Californian band ever, they have Reggae, hip-hop, funk, punk, rock, and every style in between and it all feels like cruising the beach or CA house parties you know? Warren G's albums feel like a sunset in Long Beach. Chili Peppers is a sunny day, bouncing along the city etc. Cypress Hill can encapsulate the mad stoniness of California life. Especially their early work with really gritty funk samples that feel like a funky yet gritty soundtrack to a funky yet gritty state you know? Don't just name every MC ever. cause MCing is probably a smaller part of the equation when it comes to a music's sound encapsulating the feel of California.
Anyway, just wanted to give y'all a little preview/head's up as to some shit I'll be writing on soon and I felt like making that list to make choosing songs on this mix I wanna make easier.
-T
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I believe I'm going to incorporate a series of articles about groups that define west coast music into my 'Going off On Tanjints" column thing that I do.
First, I want to make a list of probably 20 to 30 groups that encapsulate California's sound and feel very well.
1.Sublime
2.Too Short and The Dangerous Crew
3.Rage Against The Machine
4.Cypress Hill
5.Bad Religion
6.Warren G
7.The Beach Boys
8.A-Team(Abstract Rude/Aceyalone)
9.Incubus
10.Living Legends
11.The Red Hot Chili Peppers
11.Dre/Snoop
12.The Eagles
13.Steely Dan
14. Mac Dre/Khayree
15.Tool/A Perfect Circle
16. The Mars Volta/At-The-Drive-In
17.Ice Cube/Sir Jinx/Crazy Toones/DJ Pooh
18.Cake
19.Daz/Kurupt the rest of the DPG extended family
20. DJ Quik
21.Jackson Browne
22..Above the Law
23.Jane's Addiction
24.Deltron the funkee homosapien, Dan, Hiero
Now I know alot of you are going to be tempted to start naming every rapper you like but before you do that let me say that being a dope rapper doesn't mean you shape the sound/your sound encapsulates the feel of California.
Sublime to me is the most Californian band ever, they have Reggae, hip-hop, funk, punk, rock, and every style in between and it all feels like cruising the beach or CA house parties you know? Warren G's albums feel like a sunset in Long Beach. Chili Peppers is a sunny day, bouncing along the city etc. Cypress Hill can encapsulate the mad stoniness of California life. Especially their early work with really gritty funk samples that feel like a funky yet gritty soundtrack to a funky yet gritty state you know? Don't just name every MC ever. cause MCing is probably a smaller part of the equation when it comes to a music's sound encapsulating the feel of California.
Anyway, just wanted to give y'all a little preview/head's up as to some shit I'll be writing on soon and I felt like making that list to make choosing songs on this mix I wanna make easier.
-T
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You Forgot To Add Korn!!!
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Social Distortion
The Click
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yeah
didn't know Korn was from CA. I guess they do have some of that sound in a way. they did fuck with ice cube.
yeah I tried to include the punk stuff with Bad Religion but yeah, I don't know alot about it. I'mana make like 2 or 3 discs like this. of just Cali madness.
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didn't know Korn was from CA. I guess they do have some of that sound in a way. they did fuck with ice cube.
They also worked with Damizza.
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didn't know Korn was from CA. I guess they do have some of that sound in a way. they did fuck with ice cube.
They also worked with Damizza.
WHAT? Elaborate?
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A remake of Word Up. There's even a video for that track.
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tanj, i cant believe you miseed out Tha Alkaholics.. :-\ one of the only groups to keep making and producing great albums and records since there arrival on the scene
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You're right, the alkies really do contribute to the sound of CA.
i'm not saying Bad Religion covers it all, I'm saying I don't know much past Bad Religion as far as west coast punk.
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You're right, the alkies really do contribute to the sound of CA.
yup not to mention tha liks family have spawned many talented westcoast artists who've shaped the coast.. King Tee, Defari, Xzibit etc
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truth from LoudS, and itiswhatitis
exactly what I was trying to do with this thread.
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THats a dope list Tanj I liked how you included Steely Dan and the eagles, Rage Against the machine and Sublime who are a few of my favorites.
E-G
+1
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NWA...btw good thread
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THats a dope list Tanj I liked how you included Steely Dan and the eagles, Rage Against the machine and Sublime who are a few of my favorites.
E-G
+1
all those groups are from the L.A. area so yeah. plus I love them as well.
people ain't knowin' about steely dan. alot of their songs are blatantly about L.A. gangs and organized crime.
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NWA...btw good thread
truth, and thanks. props to all in thread
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South Central Cartel? They had all the popular samples at the time...
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Guns n roses
Late 80s early 90s there personafied the rock scene in L.A
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can't believe you forgot bout Tha Eastsidaz! >:(
8) 8) 8)
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The Mamas & The Papas: California Dreaming .....lmao...
Classic Rock groups would include The Doors who blew up at The Whiskey A-Go-Go on Sunset Blvd. .... and The Beach Boys which made many men across the world wish that they had "California Girls"....
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The Doors are a VERY Californian band, good call. Don't know how I missed listing them, not only do i own all of their shit (purchased) but I've seen them live.
SCC is not a bad choice. Guns n roses too.
Eastsidaz is included and implied in dre/snoop/daz/kurupt dp extended fam.
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obviously Bone isnt from CA but ive always felt they were always heavily CA influenced especially their early shit. P.O.D. is also a band i feel reps CA sound well.
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The Doors are a VERY Californian band, good call. Don't know how I missed listing them, not only do i own all of their shit (purchased) but I've seen them live.
SCC is not a bad choice. Guns n roses too.
Eastsidaz is included and implied in dre/snoop/daz/kurupt dp extended fam.
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Yeah homie, way before Dr dre, snoopp and Pac made me love cali... GUNS N ROSES made me pick up a guitar learn how to play it and move to L.a so i can play the clubs and bars on the strip.
" Im a westcoast struttin, one bad motha got a rattlesnake suitcase under my arm"
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also include the bad WAR.... they exposed the chicano side of California and helped the word Lowrider become a household name worldwide
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also include the bad WAR.... they exposed the chicano side of California and helped the word Lowrider become a household name worldwide
word
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I know the SCC has already been mentioned just wanted to say that they were the one group that to me really had a gangsta sound and connection to the streets.
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tanj, i cant believe you miseed out Tha Alkaholics.. :-\ one of the only groups to keep making and producing great albums and records since there arrival on the scene
they're one of the last groups i would put on this list. they make really dope shit but their shit sounds like a well done east coast album, not west.
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tanj, i cant believe you miseed out Tha Alkaholics.. :-\ one of the only groups to keep making and producing great albums and records since there arrival on the scene
they're one of the last groups i would put on this list. they make really dope shit but their shit sounds like a well done east coast album, not west.
i wouldnt say that, they deserve to be high on the list, they are early pioneers of the west and have brought through many artists that have taken the coast by storm (imo it seems like alot of people overlook tha liks cos they wernt on the g'funk sound the west is recognised for).. True e'swift and tash are originally from cincinatti so maybe thats why e'swifts beat sound more east then the usual west sound you are use to.. BUT you cant say that tash and j'ro lyrics are east coast, they keep a heavy westcoast party vibe sound to them! also any group that can last more then a decade while still producing good quality material should be considered greats! :)
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it's not an issue of great and non great to me. I would assume any band that helps define the sound/has a sound that represents the feel of CA would be great.
anyway, I almost wanna add Bone but I'm pretty reluctant.
WAR-good call.
I gotta hear some more SCC, have not heard much.
someone wanna hook me up?
Alkies are pretty west coast to me, don't they do a Caaaali ass track on the first Friday soundtrack?
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it's not an issue of great and non great to me. I would assume any band that helps define the sound/has a sound that represents the feel of CA would be great.
anyway, I almost wanna add Bone but I'm pretty reluctant.
WAR-good call.
I gotta hear some more SCC, have not heard much.
someone wanna hook me up?
Alkies are pretty west coast to me, don't they do a Caaaali ass track on the first Friday soundtrack?
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Well I got to head to work so I can't hook you up right now but I'd say check out SCC's "N Gatz We Truss" Album from like 93 I think. That's my favorite from them.
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LMAO that's such a hilariously blatant title.
that's almost like dropping a record called "WE B CAPPIN' NIGGAZ'
Oh man that shit is comic gold....
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I believe Bone should be on the list...They from cleveland but was brought up by eazy and came to LA to really start there rap game. But besides that, everyone in california listens or has to Bone in there life and imo have really defined west coast music...
I could see why SCC could be on the list but it would be pretty high, they definetly had an impact in the west coast gangsta music from the streets, but not alot of people have heard of them.
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i would throw Bone and the Eazy E category.... without Eazy and U-Neek, you wouldn't be thinking of Cali when you hear them....
Now.... this may be before your time, but before Dr. Dre, people like the Egpytian Lover, The L.A. Dream Team had the California hits of the land...
The Egyptian Lover with Egypt, Egypt... and The L.A. Dream Team with "The Dream Team Is In The House".... at one time there wasn't a car or a house party that wasn't playing those songs....
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psycho realm should be also included on the list,
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wouldn't psycho realm go under the Cypress category?
I suppose the egyptian lover/dream team old school L.A. hip-hop does encapsulate the 80's nightlife in CA sound pretty well I agree.
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yep... those clubs and arenas would be jam packed to see Egypt and Uncle Jamms. Them dudes also ushered the next guys like Dre that would take california hip hop to another level..
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Zapp and Roger
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Zapp and Roger
not from CA, same with P-funk
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deftones 8)
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Korn has also worked with Quik too.. although the tracks were never released although feildy was on "Hi-C's Let me know" Quik has also Worked with sugar Ray too.. not sure theyre from cali.. or what not but yeah thought i let yall know..
didn't know Korn was from CA. I guess they do have some of that sound in a way. they did fuck with ice cube.
They also worked with Damizza.
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aside from the alkaholiks/likwit crew missing, i would also add the pharcyde..........but really, the liks should be there, thats a big omission......not everything LA rap related needs have a heavy synth or talk box....lyrically their CA all day! not to mention all the people their affiliated with and brought in the game........and if living legends are gonna be on the list so should dilated peoples..........so yeah, likwit crew, pharcyde, & dilated...........and that closes out the list
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didn't know Korn was from CA. I guess they do have some of that sound in a way. they did fuck with ice cube.
They also worked with Damizza.
I swear Damizza Is The Shit
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NWA...btw good thread
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remember, it's not about listing an artists and their affiliates. it's more like the root of a certain california sound.
for example, once you list N.W.A or Dre it becomes less necessary to list all the other L.A. cats who sound like/came from Dre's sound.
no doubt-great entry
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Damn Tanje george clinton looks so fucken toasted in that picture i swear everytime i see it i start crackin up
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hah, i only get on dub from work so i have pics disabled, but when my home PC's good again, I'll have to enable it so I see that shit everytime cause yeah, he does look toasted.
I don't know that he was toasted so much as he was tired. he JUST finished up like 2-3 hours in the studio booth when we took that pic.
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Naw man he looks so fucken toasted and baked man
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Well, while he was in the booth, every few minutes we'd hear a lighter flick. and when I met him he had a weed pipe in his hand as he stepped into the booth but he didn't smell like weed or quite seem weed-high you know? so i don't know exactly what he was on. I hope weed, I guess.
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BLACK FLAG
Circle Jerks
Social Distortion
Rancid
Operation Ivy
Green Day (early days)
NOFX
AFI (early days)
TIGER ARMY
The Offspring
Reel Big Fish
all have that fresh California sound
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nice
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Well, while he was in the booth, every few minutes we'd hear a lighter flick. and when I met him he had a weed pipe in his hand as he stepped into the booth but he didn't smell like weed or quite seem weed-high you know? so i don't know exactly what he was on. I hope weed, I guess.
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Uh, George Clinton has been a functional crack addict for like 25 years... And I'm not making that up, I know that from people close to him...
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Well, while he was in the booth, every few minutes we'd hear a lighter flick. and when I met him he had a weed pipe in his hand as he stepped into the booth but he didn't smell like weed or quite seem weed-high you know? so i don't know exactly what he was on. I hope weed, I guess.
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Uh, George Clinton has been a functional crack addict for like 25 years... And I'm not making that up, I know that from people close to him...
Yeah, that's what Dirty Left(Snoop's brother) has been telling me. and what I was expecting when I met him but as I said, when I met him, he had a weed pipe in his hand (though all I saw was ash in it, didn't see actual weed). Which is why I said, despite what I have heard all I could go off is what I saw. I saw him with an ashy weed pipe and heard him periodically flick a lighter in the booth. Frankly I was kind of relieved not to have been blatantly exposed to the whole crack process.
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Luniz
Souls Of Mischief
Dove Shack
SCC
Above The Law
2nd II None
3 x Krazy
etc.
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You forgot Quinto Sol....There pretty big out here in East Los Angeles...
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I'd put 2nd II None under Quik. Dove Shack under Warren G etc.
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The people saying Bone have no idea what they're talking about. They've been west coast influenced (mostly with the production), but they define the mid-west sound.
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I would add Brotha Lynch, X-Raided, C-Bo, Luniz, Celly Cel, etc. to that list for the grimey west coast sound.
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Very interesting list Tanj, and cool topic. I'm not so varied in my taste of music that I could comment on all those bands, but I know the most and I think you're right about them. I just think N.W.A. should be there, since they were there when the whole gangsta thing started.
Outside of Hip-Hop I think The Red Hot Chili Peppers are the most "California sounding", and it obviously made your list. But, like I said, I'm not so varied. I got The Peppers' albums, but not much rock besides those.
The most interesting thing to me about the whole list though, is Sublime. I've never heard of them - but I will check 'em out ASAP. They sound really interesting. Got a tip what I should check out?
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how the hell can you guys forget some real funk poineers Sly Stone & The Family...Sly really gave cali that funk in the beginning
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true on that sly stone.
dude, you've never heard sublime t-dogg? Oh man, get their self titled album, ironically people sometimes call it 'detox' either title works. It's at least as CA sounding as Chili peppers. Incubus has a hugely californian sound as well.
I'd say incubus and sublime sound as californian as warren G at least.
sublime is like a funk hip hop reggae ska punk rock band. they have guitars, djs, horns, singing/rapping, bass, alla that. they're from Long Beach. They have a song with snoop called "doin' time (lbc remix)" or snoop remix or something like that but it's definitely the 'doin' time' remix.
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