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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Meho on September 08, 2007, 01:18:55 PM

Title: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Meho on September 08, 2007, 01:18:55 PM
And I have to say, the album grew on me like crazy, thought it was a nice 4/5 album when it first came out, nothing else. I dont know if the rap sucks so much right now or what but this sounds great compared to trash released these days.

Anyways, since no one checks the review section, so might know I did a review when it came out: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=127583.0

My rating changed a lil bit now:

01. Looking At You feat. Mac Minister 4/5

02. The Shit 5/5

03. One Blood feat Junior Reid 4/5

04. Compton feat Will.I.Am 5/5

05. Remedy 5/5

06. Lets Ride 4,5/5

07. Too Much feat Nate Dogg 4/5

08. Wouldnt Get Far feat Kanye West 3/5

09. Scream On Em feat Swizz Beatz 4,5/5

10. One Night 5/5

11. Doctors Advocate feat. Busta Ryhmes & Chaunecy Black 4/5

12. Ole English feat Dion 4.5/5

13. California Vacation feat Snoop Dogg & Xzibit 4.75/5

14. Bang feat DPG 3/5

15. Around The World feat Jamie Foxx 4/5

16. Why You Hate The Game feat Nas & Marsha 5/5

Which means that it gets from being an overall 4/5 to 4,25/5. Great cd, Documentary is still better though.

The only real problem with this cd is the played out subject matter, too much gangsta rap these days.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on September 08, 2007, 01:27:47 PM
Co-sign on ur ratings, and i agree the doc is better, it jus seems to have somthin the DA doesnt and its better put together IMO...
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Vinnie on September 08, 2007, 01:35:36 PM
I am going to go dig this album out and toss it in because of this thread.  I picked it up the day that it came out, and I have not listened to the album all of the way through yet.  That is not to say that I did not try to, but I just did not like the album.  I felt that the content was extremely sub-par, and after a couple of tracks I had my fill of it each time.

I thought that when it came out there were posts raving about it and calling it a classic, but I do not recall seeing many posts about it since then; though I may be missing them.  Are many people still giving the album spins, and if so, it is often?

It seems as though my musical taste is devolving; I would much rather toss on some Parliament or Johnny Watson than the new age, west coast hip hop.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on September 08, 2007, 01:38:27 PM
I am going to go dig this album out and toss it in because of this thread.  I picked it up the day that it came out, and I have not listened to the album all of the way through yet.  That is not to say that I did not try to, but I just did not like the album.  I felt that the content was extremely sub-par, and after a couple of tracks I had my fill of it each time.

I thought that when it came out there were posts raving about it and calling it a classic, but I do not recall seeing many posts about it since then; though I may be missing them.  Are many people still giving the album spins, and if so, it is often?

It seems as though my musical taste is devolving; I would much rather toss on some Parliament or Johnny Watson than the new age, west coast hip hop.

I try to listen to it, but my cd players fucked and always skips wen i play the Cd, so i havent fully listened to it all the way thru for ages!! Ive bin dying to tho, but i cba to splash money on a top range CD player atm....
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Sickaluffa on September 08, 2007, 01:51:03 PM
great cd
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: ITIZWHATITIZ on September 08, 2007, 02:05:56 PM
Co-sign on ur ratings, and i agree the doc is better, it jus seems to have somthin the DA doesnt and its better put together IMO...


dr dre?? 50 cent??? eminem??
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on September 08, 2007, 02:13:11 PM
Co-sign on ur ratings, and i agree the doc is better, it jus seems to have somthin the DA doesnt and its better put together IMO...


dr dre?? 50 cent??? eminem??

LOL, apart from that, it jus doesnt have "it"......lol
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Lazar on September 08, 2007, 03:14:53 PM
Yeah, DA is fucking good. I like it more than DOC
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Okka on September 08, 2007, 03:28:12 PM
Both are great albums, but "The Documentary" is a lil bit better...
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Tha Crip on September 08, 2007, 04:51:54 PM
lol damn 4/5 for One Blood...i fuckin hate that track....never understood why ppl like it...maybe its fuckin junior reid constantly yelling one blood and all that other crap throughout the track that ruins it for me....i can listen to every track on this album cept one blood, even the jamie foxx track became hot after awhile (didnt like it at first) but damn if game had only replaced one blood with Gutter or one of the Cool and Dre tracks (i know weve never heard them but i bet they woulda been hot) the album woulda been a classic for me.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: C-clamp on September 08, 2007, 11:20:03 PM
after a summer that gave us a new WC album, a new UGK album, Digital smoke, and a new Talib album, your still complainin about trash music?

You got some crazy expectations! thats 4 solid, 4/5 albums at least in the span of 3 month..........i'm happy w/ that personally.

oh yeah, and DA is a tight album but for me blue carpet treatment stole all its shine when it first came out.

I might dig it up and give it another listen now.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: 187_gangsta_crip on September 09, 2007, 12:29:14 PM
Its the best album of 2006 for sure... Documentary is better though
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Dodgers#1 on September 09, 2007, 12:49:12 PM
i like the DA more then the doc the DA bumps more  8)
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Drop A Gem On Em on September 09, 2007, 01:58:47 PM
"Da Shit" is my fav track on there.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: OchoCinco on September 09, 2007, 02:16:53 PM
personal classic....i can bump that whole cd start to finish
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Bedford Iz Active on September 09, 2007, 02:34:01 PM
I get how you feel Timbo. The best times for CD's to really grow on me is when i'm doing something that takes ages, trying to go asleep or just doing something in general, Doc's Advocate grew on me back in xmas time i think it was? I'd give the album a solid 4/5 too, maybe change one or two ratings with the songs you chose though, but i guess that's just because i prefer some more to others.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: AnybodyKilla on September 09, 2007, 03:37:11 PM
I give it the exact same review lol!!!
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: thisoneguy360 on September 09, 2007, 08:11:39 PM
Yeah I definitely agree that the subject matter was played out, still a great cd though
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Darksider on September 09, 2007, 08:42:06 PM
i like both albums....but the DOC still sounds more fresh to me..DA is a dope album from the beginning to the end but but DOC is more original
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Bones01 on September 09, 2007, 11:20:09 PM
now this review is more like it. Your first one was bias imo, although you you seem to have overrated songs Lets Ride 5/5 ???
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: T-Dogg on September 10, 2007, 12:16:21 AM
I'd co-sign your assesment of the album, but I'd swap some scores:

Wouldn't Get Far with Scream On Em
Let's Ride with Too Much

Just personal preference. Otherwise the scores are looking straight to me.


The album's held up its appeal really well over time. Remains to be seen hw long the appeal lasts, but it's safe to say by now it's a quality record and not a week-worth-of-spins, heat-of-the-moment type of joint.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: GunMaster G-9 on September 10, 2007, 05:09:25 PM
i have bumped this cd too much.... i played it at work... its jut not that great to me anymore.. but it was when i first got it. meh... need a rest  i guess
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Lucifuge on September 11, 2007, 02:08:50 AM
i like DA beckous iz gangsta west coast not g unit pop sound,gunz in trunk man
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: blunts40sbitches on September 11, 2007, 04:15:29 AM
In the Documentary, Game was tryna appeal to everybody, bein a new artist and all......The DA was an album more dedicated to his fans, thats why theres more personal subject matter and IMO shows more of the real Jayceon Taylor rather than "The Game" that 50 and Dre and Big Fase tried to create but ended up failing......tahts why IMO, Doctor's Advocate is a way better album than the Documentary, the Documentary had much more commercial appeal but The DA seemed much more real to me....
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: T-Dogg on September 11, 2007, 05:00:13 AM
i have bumped this cd too much.... i played it at work... its jut not that great to me anymore.. but it was when i first got it. meh... need a rest  i guess

I feel one tends to get tired of any record if you keep bumping it non-stop. I sometimes get bored of some artists or records when I listen to them too often in a short period of time. But when you take a break from it, you'll want to listen to those same favourites again afterwards. You browse through your records and come across something like "I haven't bumped this in a while", you slap it on and it's great again. Certainly happened to me with The Documentary when it came out.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Vinnie on March 15, 2008, 11:49:02 PM
Out of curiosity, do you hold the same amount of respect now for Doctor's Advocate that you did 6 months ago?  Do you still give the album play time?
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: D~Nice on March 15, 2008, 11:56:04 PM
Out of curiosity, do you hold the same amount of respect now for Doctor's Advocate that you did 6 months ago?  Do you still give the album play time?

Hell yeah. Still gets steady burn from me.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: WestCoasta on March 16, 2008, 12:03:35 AM
it is a likeable album
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Piffery on March 16, 2008, 12:06:13 AM
its got some great beats but i will not bump it loud in the ride. i feel like such a wigger when i hear his bullshit boasting and bad gangster rhymes pumping loud enough for others in traffic to hear.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Allpaul on March 16, 2008, 02:35:05 AM
In the Documentary, Game was tryna appeal to everybody, bein a new artist and all......The DA was an album more dedicated to his fans, thats why theres more personal subject matter and IMO shows more of the real Jayceon Taylor rather than "The Game" that 50 and Dre and Big Fase tried to create but ended up failing......tahts why IMO, Doctor's Advocate is a way better album than the Documentary, the Documentary had much more commercial appeal but The DA seemed much more real to me....
Game probably didn't have any master plan as far as appealing to the masses, he was probably just following the orders sent down from the powers that be,  with great results, I might add. It's pretty hard to follow an album with a track like No More Fun & Games.... Anyone who heard that Game track can't say shit about the lyrical content of that banger, no? I think in hindsight, people and critics will be more forgiving of the DA than people are on this board are after only a few years of it's release. Given the circumstances, the DA is dope as fuck. People AND critics never think of the circumstances or where the artist was at that point in their careers. It's only in hindsight that people take those things into account. Remember, The Chronic, Doggystyle, and 2001 weren't regarded as 5 mic albums until way after their original release dates, but it's pretty obvious that all of those records changed the soundscape of music afterwards. Every rapper wanted to rap over beats with bass as heavy as Dre was using on the Chronic. Lots of rappers tried to cut a record as cohesive as Doggystyle, where it went together almost like a movie or some shit. I don't think there would have been a Murder Inc. if Irv Gotti didn't bite Dre's style from 2001 to a far lesser effect.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: 1234 on March 16, 2008, 04:47:04 AM
The Documentary will always be better to me. But the Doctors Advocate is a real laid back album. There isnt a bad track on there apart from Wouldnt Get Far.
Title: Re: So, Ive been bumping Docotor's Advocate on a 3 hour ride yesterday
Post by: Black Friday on March 16, 2008, 05:23:38 PM
Right now i've got both The Documentary & Doctor's Advocate in my system 8)