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Title: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Snoopafly86 on September 10, 2007, 02:27:31 PM
THREE WAY RACE: Initial prognostications from the respective camps in the Kanye West-50 Cent-Kenny Chesney chart race see the two rappers in the 600k range, each with a shot at beating Linkin Park’s first-week record of 625k back in May, while Chesney looks to be in the 450-500k area. As far as pre-orders go, West is leading 50 by 2-1 at both iTunes and Amazon.com, though Fitty has a 2-1 edge in searches at Yahoo, a reliable measure of buzz factor. All three albums hit retail tomorrow. (9/10p)

big day for hiphop 8)

Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: K.Dub on September 10, 2007, 02:36:37 PM
600 the first week ? dayum..
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Blu Lacez on September 10, 2007, 02:39:30 PM
600 the first week ? dayum..
that's mad!!
if they turn over another 600 thousand each, in the 2nd week, these two rappers will go Plat in 2/3 weeks..that's mad!!!
Perhaps Kanye will not be so grumpy!!..lol
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: K.Dub on September 10, 2007, 02:41:55 PM
600 the first week ? dayum..
that's mad!!
if they turn over another 600 thousand each, in the 2nd week, these two rappers will go Plat in 2/3 weeks..that's mad!!!
Perhaps Kanye will not be so grumpy!!..lol

Over 600 in the first week is an achievement by itself, doubt they'll have another 600 the 2nd week - But I'll guess plat in a month..
600 ? still can't believe. that's mad, even for Linkin Park
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Blu Lacez on September 10, 2007, 02:45:08 PM
600 the first week ? dayum..
that's mad!!
if they turn over another 600 thousand each, in the 2nd week, these two rappers will go Plat in 2/3 weeks..that's mad!!!
Perhaps Kanye will not be so grumpy!!..lol

Over 600 in the first week is an achievement by itself, doubt they'll have another 600 the 2nd week - But I'll guess plat in a month..
600 ? still can't believe. that's mad, even for Linkin Park

I Still can't believe it!!!!
Well it shows that pple are buying albums...but 600 firts week, that's mad!!!
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Lunatic on September 10, 2007, 02:45:50 PM
lol shouldn't be such a shock if u ask me
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 10, 2007, 02:47:57 PM
linkin park sells like crazy,they sold 10 millions with hybrid theory
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: GangstaBoogy on September 10, 2007, 02:49:03 PM
50 selling 600,000 in the first week ain't good. Especially since he said he guaranteed a mill plus a while back.
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: K.Dub on September 10, 2007, 02:49:49 PM
I hope thet both go 500+ in the first week
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: d-nice on September 10, 2007, 02:51:05 PM
50 did like 1.1 mil the first week on his last one. Times have changed alot since then so 600k is alot but still a 50% drop is crazy though. Understandable.
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Meho on September 10, 2007, 02:53:25 PM
50 said he wants to do 700.00, which he consideres a plainum first week sales in these days.
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: REDZ on September 10, 2007, 03:57:27 PM
600 k in the first week is immpresive, but 2pac's "All Eyez on Me" reached Platinum qualification in just 4 hours, when it was released.
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Lunatic on September 10, 2007, 03:59:56 PM
50 did like 1.1 mil the first week on his last one. Times have changed alot since then so 600k is alot but still a 50% drop is crazy though. Understandable.
If i member correctly, it was 1.1 in the first 4 days only
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: AnybodyKilla on September 10, 2007, 04:03:57 PM
50 will win!!!
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Paul on September 10, 2007, 04:24:53 PM
600 k in the first week is immpresive, but 2pac's "All Eyez on Me" reached Platinum qualification in just 4 hours, when it was released.


seriously
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on September 10, 2007, 04:27:25 PM
600 k in the first week is immpresive, but 2pac's "All Eyez on Me" reached Platinum qualification in just 4 hours, when it was released.


seriously

i dont believe that , but 1 copy equaled two sales as it was a double album. So it would be 500,000 in 4 hours really.
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Al Bundy on September 10, 2007, 04:34:21 PM
600 k in the first week is immpresive, but 2pac's "All Eyez on Me" reached Platinum qualification in just 4 hours, when it was released.

When the internet was AOL 3.1.
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Canuck on September 10, 2007, 09:47:00 PM
600 k in the first week is immpresive, but 2pac's "All Eyez on Me" reached Platinum qualification in just 4 hours, when it was released.
where did you read this, just curios
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: jeromechickenbone on September 10, 2007, 10:09:59 PM
A big thing to watch for will be the % decline in the 2nd week.  I think it's better than 50/50 that "50" buys up a bunch of his albums.  Then again, he talked about Jay doing it (which I'm 90% sure he did, had somethin like 80% drop in week 2 sales, lol) so he's prolly smart enough to buy up his albums for a couple weeks straight.  Sound crazy?  Maybe, but 50's ego is waaaay to big to lose to Kanye.  All signs point to 50 really slidin these days, and losing out to Kanye would be pretty significant. And shit, you know 50 throwin out $10 mill ain't shit for him.

All things being equal, I think Kanye would crush 50 by 33% or more if it's just fans buying them.

I'm coppin Kanye, and I'm hiding 50's cd when i find it, lol.
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Sofa_King_Awesome on September 10, 2007, 10:25:44 PM
Who owns the most units sold opening week? I recall Usher doing like 800k or 900k on opening week for one of his releases.
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: AnybodyKilla on September 10, 2007, 10:32:43 PM
A big thing to watch for will be the % decline in the 2nd week.  I think it's better than 50/50 that "50" buys up a bunch of his albums.  Then again, he talked about Jay doing it (which I'm 90% sure he did, had somethin like 80% drop in week 2 sales, lol) so he's prolly smart enough to buy up his albums for a couple weeks straight.  Sound crazy?  Maybe, but 50's ego is waaaay to big to lose to Kanye.  All signs point to 50 really slidin these days, and losing out to Kanye would be pretty significant. And shit, you know 50 throwin out $10 mill ain't shit for him.

All things being equal, I think Kanye would crush 50 by 33% or more if it's just fans buying them.

I'm coppin Kanye, and I'm hiding 50's cd when i find it, lol.

Thats fucked someone buying a shit load of there own albums LOL. Who gives a fuck who wins, as long as its a good album and dude did the best he could with it, and he could make some solid money out of it, why the fuck would u buy ur own shit just for bragging rights n shit like that, thats some stupid shit!!!
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: TRG on September 10, 2007, 10:34:31 PM
MMLP did like 1.7 mil first week didnt it
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: Lucifuge on September 10, 2007, 11:00:23 PM
MMLP did like 1.7 mil first week didnt it

yap!

they gonna flop :P
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: T-Dogg on September 10, 2007, 11:29:25 PM
Funny that the article mentions Kenny Chesney in the mix - the group of people who buy both his and Kanyes/50s album is pretty marginal.

I'm not looking at some predictions though. Not even 1 day in and people are predicting numbers, what the fuck?
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: You Ain't Shit on September 11, 2007, 07:09:44 AM
big day for hiphop 8)



not hip hop, hip pop
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: d-nice on September 11, 2007, 07:12:30 AM
Funny that the article mentions Kenny Chesney in the mix - the group of people who buy both his and Kanyes/50s album is pretty marginal.

I'm not looking at some predictions though. Not even 1 day in and people are predicting numbers, what the fuck?

Yeah it is funny, but on the real country music fans are loyal as fuck. I remember when Garth Brooks was doing music and the lines at ticketmasters would be MILES long to see his show. I would not be surprised in the least if Chesney outsells both of them.
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: T-Dogg on September 11, 2007, 07:15:58 AM
^^
That's true, and I know Country music keeps selling a whole lot these days. And I wouldn't be surprised either if Chesney outsold 50 and 'Ye. Still, funny to compare sales of products that cater to entirely different audiences.
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: THA ONE* on September 11, 2007, 10:07:54 AM
50 selling 600,000 in the first week ain't good. Especially since he said he guaranteed a mill plus a while back.

Exactly...all that shit he was barkin bout how Def Jam was mad at Jay-z's numbers on Kingdom Come ( 700,000 +), with all the promotion he had....the fuck outta here, Hov aint have 6 damn singles and videos and shit, no huge publicity stunt with Ye, Ciara, Weezy, and make all that buzz and dough from vitamin water....Interscope is worried, 50 is scared....and they should be...Amusement Park, Straight to the Bank, Follow My Lead, Ayo Technology....he bet not sell 600,000....
Title: Re: 50 and Kanye chart race
Post by: We Fly High on September 11, 2007, 10:59:35 AM
A big thing to watch for will be the % decline in the 2nd week.  I think it's better than 50/50 that "50" buys up a bunch of his albums.  Then again, he talked about Jay doing it (which I'm 90% sure he did, had somethin like 80% drop in week 2 sales, lol) so he's prolly smart enough to buy up his albums for a couple weeks straight.  Sound crazy?  Maybe, but 50's ego is waaaay to big to lose to Kanye.  All signs point to 50 really slidin these days, and losing out to Kanye would be pretty significant. And shit, you know 50 throwin out $10 mill ain't shit for him.

All things being equal, I think Kanye would crush 50 by 33% or more if it's just fans buying them.

I'm coppin Kanye, and I'm hiding 50's cd when i find it, lol.

 thats why i usually discount first week figures with these big artists, that would tend to do stuff like this. In my opinion first week doesnt really matter, cos the companies are just going to buy every single copy there is. but like Jrome said, check out the 2nd week declines, and the continuing weeks, and we can get a better idea.

in terms of marketing and promotions, 50 has been hittin the streets hard with all the street teams and everything, he had a lot of presence out at the VMAs and all that. Kanye has had zero street team marketing, i know people that be working out in the field, and they dont be seeing no teams out for Kanye.
However, Kanye has been hitting up all the radio stations/tvs and all that, so he's getting his promotions in through there.

and in recent light of the VMA, and with Kanye complaining about all that stuff.. yeah its publicity, but it might not be the best look to have considering its the day before your album comes out..

and finally,.. i think in the end 50 cent will still outsell Kanye. 50 has got the international game on lock. Kanye really just started fuckin with the overseas fans.. but 50's BEEN touring out in Europe and all that, his fanbase internationally is way more established than Kanyes...

just my 2 cents on this chart race..