West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: morbidenigma on September 12, 2007, 08:05:09 AM
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Nowadays all rappers coming out with 1-3 love songs on a cd, but u hardly ever hear a track going hard at these hoes. Back in time there was plenty of misogyny in hip hop, but nowadays u hardly having any tracks going at bitches except like the odd Snoop/DPG track.
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Cause the labels want some songs appealing to the ladies
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Actually it went soft when the songs you speak of started getting popular in the first place. That bitch/rap is as soft as it gets.
On the new PE album Chuck D says it nicely on Long and Whining Road verse 3;
ONLY A PAWN IN THE GAME
CHASTISED FOR NAMIN NAMES
WHAT WAS SAID AND WHO SAID IT
ANTI NOTHING SO FORGET IT
TEARS OF RAGE LEFT A FRIEND
BLOWIN IN THE WIND
BUT TIME IS GOD
BEEN BACK FOR 10 years AND BLACK AGAIN
SOME OF THEM SAME CATS
HELP USHER IN GANGSTER RAP
DAMN OUR INTERVIEWS WERE BETTER THAN A LOTTA THEM ACTS.
PRAISED THE GANGSTA
JUST BECAUSE IT SOLD
WHILE CONSCIOUSNESS
WENT FROM PLATINUM TO GOLD
SEEN A NATION REDUCE FIGHT THE POWER TO GIN AND JUICE
SOME PEOPLE GAVE IT UP AND TURNED IT LOOSE.
Hip Hop's been soft for years.
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around 97 with bad boy it started happenning
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yeah I haven't heard a misogonystic hip hop song come out since ummmmmmmmm........ a week ago!!!!!!!!
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What's so wrong about love songs? I don't think rappers are that different from normal people so why not make a song about an issue that concerns everybody. As long as they good I dont have any problem with love songs. Ever heard of Lupe's "Sunshine"?
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Just evolved thats all.
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Soft love raps ain't nuthin' new. Westside Connection had that track "So Many Rappers In Love" almost 4 years ago, and it wasn't new then.
A good rap love song - nothing wrong with it. Like "All I Need" by Method Man. But those things are rarities. Most of the time those things slip into staright R&B, straight R&B. Soft, sappy and corny. And they always stand out on albums as something that doesn't really belong there. But at some point somebody realized the "bitch recrds" sell a lot of records and it's been a staple on almost every major release since.
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So Many Rappers In Love from westside connection was far from a soft love song
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when did hip hop fans become critics, too? if you dont like it, listen to a different genre.
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didnt 2Pac say 'make music for the bitches, and the niggas will follow' ?
seems like it started back in 96 when he said that, and now everyone seems to be keeping with it
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around 97 with bad boy it started happenning
Yepp. Followed by Timbaland, then Ja Rule made it what it is.
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around 1989, theres always been soft shit i dont know what yall are thinking. oh you mean when did it go so watered down? when rappers started gettin paid, and then became slaves, again. then again, whats the matter with making music about relationships, i know yall nerds dont have girlfriends but you gotta think about the average consumer
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around 97 with bad boy it started happenning
Yepp. Followed by Timbaland, then Ja Rule made it what it is.
Its juts evolution realy it happened with rock too, i mean if yu dont like it dont listen to it thats how i see it. I dont like it myself so i listen to other shit.
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didnt 2Pac say 'make music for the bitches, and the niggas will follow' ?
seems like it started back in 96 when he said that, and now everyone seems to be keeping with it
It started with LL Cool J's song I Need Love.
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nah.. slick rick did a love song with al b sure.. off on your own girl remix i believe it is.. thats when it all started !!!!!!
and mase was out before ja rule making hits for the ladies
i rather listen 2 subject matter about women than about ill kill you with my 9 shoot a bazooka at your whip when your cruising down my block shit just gets old and stupid
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"hip hop is dead, for you"
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Melle Mel, who was to Hip-Hop pre-Rakim what 'Pac is to all us Westcoast fans, did a song, I Feel For You, with Chaka Kahn in 1984, so I guess Hip-Hop went soft in 1984.
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when nelly come in the game and that crapy dilema song:D damn that shit is wack west coast i now u shakein right:D hahaha....
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when nelly come in the game and that crapy dilema song:D damn that shit is wack west coast i now u shakein right:D hahaha....
Riiiight..
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What's so wrong about love songs? I don't think rappers are that different from normal people so why not make a song about an issue that concerns everybody. As long as they good I dont have any problem with love songs. Ever heard of Lupe's "Sunshine"?
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tha game got soft wen rappers started making money lol... u muthafuckaz r so gotdam funnny. wtf did u expect, ba celebrity workin tha graveyard shift while tha corporation execs are takin champagne bubble baths ::) riiiiiiiight
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So Many Rappers In Love from westside connection was far from a soft love song
No shit Matlock? ::)
I was referring to the fact that they addressed the issue with that song. You think I'm that dumb, lil' geezy?
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HIP HOP WENT SOFT WHEN EVERYONE DECIDED TO CUT THERE BRAIDS/ DREADS OFF!!!
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Outside of Gangsta rap and groups like PE, its always been there. The real question is when did shitty dumbass bling bling retarded sounding love songs become so popular.
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The Rap Syrupy Love Ballad started with LL Cool J's "I Need Love" ... As the dude pointed out earlier.... Heavy D continued it with "Somebody For Me" with Al B. Sure...
I think that there is nothing wrong with it.... as long as a bunch of dudes aren't together in a car bumpin' it with no bitches riding with them... that's when it becomes gay...
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The Rap Syrupy Love Ballad started with LL Cool J's "I Need Love" ... As the dude pointed out earlier.... Heavy D continued it with "Somebody For Me" with Al B. Sure...
I think that there is nothing wrong with it.... as long as a bunch of dudes aren't together in a car bumpin' it with no bitches riding with them... that's when it becomes gay...
LOL At Melle Mel's little rap and the whole Chaka Kahn thing.
http://www.youtube.com/v/2t2-noH6mek
LL gets way too much credit for starting this all, he just perfected it, though Kane wasn't so bad either. As long as Hip-Hop expresses feeling and emotions, love will be in there.
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Yeah Mel had that little part in that dance song.... but I Need Love is pure love ballad from start to finish... no dancing.... no little rap bars and then Chaka singing...
Run-DMC had a dancy little ballad called 30 Days, but like I said, LL's song was just pure syrup... the kind of shit that you tell your girl when nobody is around to hear you say it...lol.