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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Rud on July 18, 2001, 01:48:01 AM
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RITE THIS IS GONNA TAKE SUM TIME BUT I WANT EVERYBODY 2 LIST EVERYHIP HOP CLASSIC EVA...........
THINK BOUT ITS IMPACT
STYLE ETC...IF NECCESARY CATEGORISE THEM 2 MAKE IT EASY 2 DISTINGUISH HOW IT IS A CLASSIC (IE, PRODUCTION, LYRICS ETC.)
IM GOIN OFF 2 HAVE A THINK, BACK SOON
PLEASE THINK BOUT IT............
peace
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nwa-straight outta compton
cypress hill-cypress hill
dr. dre- the chronic
nwa-niggaz 4 life
dr. dre-2001
outkast-Aquemini
outkast-Stankonia
2pac-makaveli donkilluminati....
2pac-all eyez on me
2pac-me against the world
snoop doggy dogg-doggystyle
xzibit-at the speed of life
tha dogg pound-dogg food
ice cube-amerikkkaz most wanted
ice cube-death certificate
eazy-e-eazy duz it
the d.o.c-no one can do it better
bone thugs-e 1999 eternal
biggie-ready to die
wu tang- 36 chambers
nas-illmatic
jay-z- reasonable doubt
ll cool j-radio
Public Enemy: It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Digital Underground: Sex Packets
Public Enemy: Apocalypse 91...The Enemy Strikes Black
The Beastie Boys: Paul's Boutique
beastie boys-check your head
tribe called quest-low end theory
tribe called quest-midnight merauders
de la soul-three feet and rising
epmd-strickly business
eric b and rakim-follow the leader
eric b and rakim-paid in full
ice t-original gangsta
afrika bombata-planet rock
public enemy-fear of a black planet
run dmc-raising hell
run dmc-rund dmc
boogie down productions-by all means neccasary
beastie boys-license to ill
slick rick-the great adventures of slick rick
murder was the case soundtrack
above the rim soundtrack
ice t-ice berg freedom of speach...just be careful what you say
warren g-regulate the g funk era
del tha funkee homosapian-i wish my brother george was here
too short-life is too short
above the law-black mafia life
friday soundtrack
gza-liquid swords
raekwon-only built 4 cuban linx
method man-tical
ll cool j-mama said knock you out
boogie down productions-criminal minded
kurupt -streetz iz a mutha
goodie mob-soul food
pete rock and c l smooth-Mecca and the Soul Brother
the pharcyde- Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
the fugees-the score
redman-what the? album
the roots-illadelph halflife
the roots-things fall apart
the roots -organix
dj quik-quik is da name
run dmc-king of rock
mobb deep-the infamous mobb deep
mobb deep-hell on earth
scareface-mr scarface is back
scarface-the diary
getoboys-we can't be stopped
2 live crew- as nasty as they want to be
ol' dirty bastard-return to the 36 chambers
kool keith-dr. octagonist
that one pm dawn album
that should cover it, if i missed any i would be suprised
*note no art of war*
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ugly duckling - fresh mode ep
company flow - little jonny from the hospitul
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Various - Soundbooming II
Ice T - Rhyme Pays
Eazy E - It's On (Dr Dre) 187Um Killa...
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bigjake named everything that I would think of.
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DPG-Dillinger & Young Gotti
listen to it I think its better then
Doggpound-Dogg Food
DEFinitely a CLASSIC
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wooooo dels - i wish my....
didnt know that shit was considered classic.. i love that album ;D
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nwa-straight outta compton
cypress hill-cypress hill
dr. dre- the chronic
nwa-niggaz 4 life
dr. dre-2001
outkast-Aquemini
outkast-Stankonia
2pac-makaveli donkilluminati....
2pac-all eyez on me
2pac-me against the world
snoop doggy dogg-doggystyle
xzibit-at the speed of life
tha dogg pound-dogg food
ice cube-amerikkkaz most wanted
ice cube-death certificate
eazy-e-eazy duz it
the d.o.c-no one can do it better
bone thugs-e 1999 eternal
biggie-ready to die
wu tang- 36 chambers
nas-illmatic
jay-z- reasonable doubt
ll cool j-radio
Public Enemy: It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Digital Underground: Sex Packets
Public Enemy: Apocalypse 91...The Enemy Strikes Black
The Beastie Boys: Paul's Boutique
beastie boys-check your head
tribe called quest-low end theory
tribe called quest-midnight merauders
de la soul-three feet and rising
epmd-strickly business
eric b and rakim-follow the leader
eric b and rakim-paid in full
ice t-original gangsta
afrika bombata-planet rock
public enemy-fear of a black planet
run dmc-raising hell
run dmc-rund dmc
boogie down productions-by all means neccasary
beastie boys-license to ill
slick rick-the great adventures of slick rick
murder was the case soundtrack
above the rim soundtrack
ice t-ice berg freedom of speach...just be careful what you say
warren g-regulate the g funk era
del tha funkee homosapian-i wish my brother george was here
too short-life is too short
above the law-black mafia life
friday soundtrack
gza-liquid swords
raekwon-only built 4 cuban linx
method man-tical
ll cool j-mama said knock you out
boogie down productions-criminal minded
kurupt -streetz iz a mutha
goodie mob-soul food
pete rock and c l smooth-Mecca and the Soul Brother
the pharcyde- Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
the fugees-the score
redman-what the? album
the roots-illadelph halflife
the roots-things fall apart
the roots -organix
dj quik-quik is da name
run dmc-king of rock
mobb deep-the infamous mobb deep
mobb deep-hell on earth
scareface-mr scarface is back
scarface-the diary
getoboys-we can't be stopped
2 live crew- as nasty as they want to be
ol' dirty bastard-return to the 36 chambers
kool keith-dr. octagonist
that one pm dawn album
that should cover it, if i missed any i would be suprised
*note no art of war*
Dayum that a big fucking list. Everything he said. (At least by saying that I know I am 99% chance of being right)
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NOTE: I wasn't tha person who said Art Of War was a classic, but at least E.1999 is up there.
Dat list is just about rite. Mobb deep is a mistake though.
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i know i was aiming that towards hellrazor, that's the funniest thing i've heard in a while art of war classic my ass, and you gotta be crazy not to put those 2 mobb deep albums on there
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By tha way, why is mobb deep on tha new eastsidaz, Snoop is riding Everyone's dick in tha east these days. 2pac would fuck his ass up if he waz alive.
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roots - do you want more
outkast - spcm
outkast - ATLiens
common - resurrection
dj shadow - endtroducing
aceyalone - book of human language
tribe called quest - peoples instinctive travels
just adding to the list...
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More to the list...
Mack 10 - Mack 10
Above The Law - Uncle Sams Curse...
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By tha way, why is mobb deep on tha new eastsidaz, Snoop is riding Everyone's dick in tha east these days. 2pac would fuck his ass up if he waz alive.
No he wouldnt, check your facts.
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what's wrong with working with mobb deep? and if pac was alive pac would've cut that beef off too, if y'all didn't know 2pac didn't always use to like Suge Knight.....gosh u are REALLY working me up
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2pac would fuck his ass up if he waz alive.
dude, pac wudnt do that, if here were still alive he wud hav squashed most beefs by now...im with big jake anywayz...he on point with tha post above
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Stop cryin, so what if im workin u up, dats my thang.
Yall probobly rite anywayz, 2pac wouldve dropped dat shit.
But on tha otha hand Suge might fuck his ass up, I aint neva seen dat fat ass drop any kinda beef.
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aint nobody cryin ova here homie...
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i know i was aiming that towards hellrazor, that's the funniest thing i've heard in a while art of war classic my ass, and you gotta be crazy not to put those 2 mobb deep albums on there
Me calling Art Of War classic is no more rediculous than you calling 2001 a classic. Get off my opinion. Anyway, my list of hip hop classics:
Public Enemy--It Takes A Nation of Millions
Public Enemy--Fear Of A Black Planet
Run Dmc--Raising Hell
Run Dmc--Tougher Than Leather
BDP--By All Means Necessary
NWA--Straight Outta Compton
Dr. Dre--The Chronic
Snoopy--Doggystyle
Outkast--All 4 albums
Wu Tang--36 Chambers
Mobb Deep--The Infamous
Nas--Illmatic
Biggie--Ready To Die
Raekwon--Only Built 4 Cuban linx
GZA--Liquid Swords
Gang Starr--Hard To Earn
Gang Starr--Moment Of Truth
Beastie Boys--License To Ill
Beastie Boys--Pauls Boutique
Beastie Boys--Ill Communication
Bone Thugs N Harmony--Creepin On Ah Come Up
Bone Thugs N Harmony--E.1999 Eternal
Bone Thugs N Harmony--AOW
Redman--Dare Iz A Darkside
The Roots--Illadelph Halflife
2Pac--Me Against The World
2Pac--All Eyez On Me
2Pac--The 7 Day Theory
Ice Cube--Amerikkkaz Most Wanted
Ice Cube--Death Certificate
Ice Cube--The Predator
Tribe Called Quest--Low End Theory
Tribe Called Quest--Midnight Marauders
To name just a few....
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You're a retard...Not only AOW isn't a classic...It's a bad album, Bones worst...
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You're a retard...Not only AOW isn't a classic...It's a bad album, Bones worst...
Dude, shut the fuck up and get off Dre's dick. If AOW isnt classic, 2001 SURE as hell aint classic.
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Oh, by the way, Bone's worst "group" album was BTNHresurrection. AOW shits all over that album, and most Bone fans will argree on this.....
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this is becoming a cliche` but art of war AIN"T A FUCKING CLASSIC!
and it ain't no where near as good as 2001 classic or not art of war isn't near 2001
-production wise
-originality wise
-impact wise
-lyrically (hittman, xzibit, em, kurupt, hell even snoop ripped it)
and most rap fans (outside of this message board) say it's a landmark album
art of war is full of tired cliches, 2001 has it's cliches too but it's not as vast
art of war lacks originality and is full of FILLER and the only reason why they made it a double cd is becuase every one was putting out double discs, pac, big, wu, master p, nate....
plus the production on that album wasn't good at all there were some tight productions but only on the singles and thug luv but the rest were boring as hell and could've been put together by by a mediocre producer
lyrically it's the same tired rhymes that's been drug throught the gutter rap after rap during the mid 90's , i don't know what you see in this album, maybe your a fan in denial or maybe your just easily impressed.
and do not say some ignorant shit to NIK about him being on dre's dick...NIK doesn't go around saying stupid shit about dre like you say about bone. you throwing classic stamps down on every bone album is the euquivalant of NIK saying "dr. dre presents the aftermath" is a classic...."the firm" was a classic .....i'm sorry but the only thing NIK has said about dre is that 2001 is a classic which is pretty much agreed by at least 80% of the 7 million people who bought 2001...and i'm sorry but the only one riding cock here is you and your overzelous obsession with bone....reality THEY ARE NOT ALL THAT...if your a big fan hey i ain't got nothing against that...my homie on this board Sikotik Assassin is a HUGE bone fan but he ain't gonna say any of the ignorant shit you say....
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Hey, aint Marshall Mathers LP considered a classic. Dat fool's helarious 4 a white boy.
And dat album had a big impact on hip hop.
Production and lyrics were great also.
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yeah i kinda think both of eminems albums are near classics alot of magazines seem to say so too, i dunno but yeah if you can still listen to both in 5 years i'd give it a nod
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this is becoming a cliche` but art of war AIN"T A FUCKING CLASSIC!
and it ain't no where near as good as 2001 classic or not art of war isn't near 2001
-production wise
-originality wise
-impact wise
-lyrically (hittman, xzibit, em, kurupt, hell even snoop ripped it)
and most rap fans (outside of this message board) say it's a landmark album
art of war is full of tired cliches, 2001 has it's cliches too but it's not as vast
art of war lacks originality and is full of FILLER and the only reason why they made it a double cd is becuase every one was putting out double discs, pac, big, wu, master p, nate....
plus the production on that album wasn't good at all there were some tight productions but only on the singles and thug luv but the rest were boring as hell and could've been put together by by a mediocre producer
lyrically it's the same tired rhymes that's been drug throught the gutter rap after rap during the mid 90's , i don't know what you see in this album, maybe your a fan in denial or maybe your just easily impressed.
and do not say some ignorant shit to NIK about him being on dre's dick...NIK doesn't go around saying stupid shit about dre like you say about bone. you throwing classic stamps down on every bone album is the euquivalant of NIK saying "dr. dre presents the aftermath" is a classic...."the firm" was a classic .....i'm sorry but the only thing NIK has said about dre is that 2001 is a classic which is pretty much agreed by at least 80% of the 7 million people who bought 2001...and i'm sorry but the only one riding cock here is you and your overzelous obsession with bone....reality THEY ARE NOT ALL THAT...if your a big fan hey i ain't got nothing against that...my homie on this board Sikotik Assassin is a HUGE bone fan but he ain't gonna say any of the ignorant shit you say....
You know, I was trying not start beef with you, but now you've crossed tha fine line. 2001 BLOWS. I used to actually like that cd, but with your bullshit preaching of it being classic, its made me hate the album. It has now become a coaster on my desk. Art Of War is 34508326 x better than 2001 10 fucking times over. Fuck 2001. Shit is mad cliche. Art Of War has crazy amounts of different styles, and Bizzy is a better lyricist than anyone who was on 2001.
And no, 2001 is NOT classic by general consensus. I took a poll on this at another board, and most people gave it 4 mics. Like 15 people answered the poll, and only ONE considered it a classic.
Also, learn to respect peoples opinions........Jesus Christ.
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Matter of fact, Bizzy's second solo album, The Gift, is better than 2001. God, I fucking hate that album now. Im gonna use that shit as a coaster, cuz thats all its good for. That cd isnt even worthy of being on the same shelf as AOW.
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all i got to say is i think that's sad you feel bizzy is a better lyracist than:
xzibit
kurupt
the d.o.c
jay-z (yes jay-z ghost wrote still D.RE.)
eminem
i also think it's sad that you hate an album just becuase someone has a different view of things...i'm not going around saying i hate e. 1999 eternal and creepin'....your just a nut for putting Art of War in the same category as Enter the Wu
i also feel sorry for you becuase you can't distinguish a great album from a non great album, i dig every track on the war disk but it ain't no classic...i'm sorry your in love with mediocre stuff
the gift is not as great as 2001, it was cool but it's not ALLLL THAT, Restless was good but it wasn't ALLLL THAT...sheez
on a possitive note though, i'm glad you have a coaster for your desk.......it's not good to set cold drinks on a wooden surface
speaking of wood how do you walk around with a bone up your anal cavity...see i can be childish too
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all i got to say is i think that's sad you feel bizzy is a better lyracist than:
xzibit
kurupt
the d.o.c
jay-z (yes jay-z ghost wrote still D.RE.)
eminem
i also think it's sad that you hate an album just becuase someone has a different view of things...i'm not going around saying i hate e. 1999 eternal and creepin'....your just a nut for putting Art of War in the same category as Enter the Wu
i also feel sorry for you becuase you can't distinguish a great album from a non great album, i dig every track on the war disk but it ain't no classic...i'm sorry your in love with mediocre stuff
the gift is not as great as 2001, it was cool but it's not ALLLL THAT, Restless was good but it wasn't ALLLL THAT...sheez
on a possitive note though, i'm glad you have a coaster for your desk.......it's not good to set cold drinks on a wooden surface
speaking of wood how do you walk around with a bone up your anal cavity...see i can be childish too
My point is, respect other peoples opinions. If I want to think AOW is a classic, I have that right. And who said anything about AOW being as good as 36 Chambers?? Yea, I consider AOW classic. Better than 36 Chambers?? No, Id say 36 Chambers is better than AOW, but that doesnt mean AOW aint classic.
And yes, I feel Bizzy is a better lyricist than the MC's you named, cuz he isnt as one dimensional as them. Bizzy has a HUGE vocabulary [far bigger than any of the other Bone members, and far bigger than Kurupt, Xzibit, and Eminem as well], and he puts a message in almost everysong rather than rappin about blunts and bitches. Bizzy's vocabulary is near that of Ghostface's, but I actually like Bizzy better than him even cuz Ghost raps about non-sense alot. Bizzy MAKES SENSE with his lyrics, as almost every song he does has a message of some sort. I like Kurupt, he's definatly one of the better MC's from the west, but ill be damned if he's fucking with Bizzy on a lyrical level. Heavenz Movie and The Gift were two of the best lyrical albums ive heard [even better than my all time fav album E.1999 Eternal, though Eternal is a better overall album], aside from Wu's albums, Pac's later work, Gang Starr's work, and so forth.
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damn jake.,... u just about named every single classic i could think of.. its all good tho.. i agree with on just about all of it/
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My bad, wrong topic....
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ok i'mma quit dissing you becuase you just fucked yourself by saying Art of War is a classic and by saying this....
And yes, I feel Bizzy is a better lyricist than the MC's you named, cuz he isnt as one dimensional as them. Bizzy has a HUGE vocabulary [far bigger than any of the other Bone members, and far bigger than Kurupt, Xzibit, and Eminem as well], and he puts a message in almost everysong rather than rappin about blunts and bitches. Bizzy's vocabulary is near that of Ghostface's, but I actually like Bizzy better than him even cuz Ghost raps about non-sense alot. Bizzy MAKES SENSE with his lyrics
and about respecting opinions if you wanna settle for second best be my guest, but remember...theres people who truley think the Hot Boys are better than NWA...but that doesn't mean it's true...idiot
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some cd's I my stereo considers classics real quik...
Too $hort: "Life is......
Dj Quik: "Safe & sound"
Compton's most wanted: Music to driveby"
Scarface: Mr Scarface is back"
Mausberg:"Non fiction"
Amg: "Bitch betta have my money"
just a few I consider classics.....that I didn't c make ya list's....I think
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i had scarface and too$hort
i was going to add those other ones you said ceptthe maus one but i thought it'd just be my bias talking ...oh well it's all gravy and biscuts, they're all better than the art of war
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Hey, aint Marshall Mathers LP considered a classic. Dat fool's helarious 4 a white boy.
And dat album had a big impact on hip hop.
Production and lyrics were great also.
MMLP had no impact on hip hop...other than it selling so much...nothing on the music itself...if there was tell me because there was clearly nothing that he contributed to hip hop...and he didnt change the game so can u plz tell me the huge impact ur talkin about? im confused
none of Eminems albums are CLASSIC...period!
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i agree with west coast vet, i dunno though i guess you can say it's impact was, it's not cool to say faggot or a bunch of limp wristed fags will haunt you, and you'll have to perform with elton john to get the press off your tip...lol i dunno
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I dont consider Eminem's cd's classic myself but I think he did make an impact in Hip Hop/Rap Music.
I know there were alot of white rappers before Eminem... but never as big as him. He kinda opened the doors for the white people... like it's okay for a white guy to rap, they CAN have skills. And now you got all kinda of white rappers comin' from all kinds of directions... that's an impact. (Dont know if it's a good one but it's there..... J/K, dont take to tha heart)
And his sales can be considered and Impact too.... didn't he break records n shit?
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Big Pun: "Capital PUNishment"
Kam: "Neva again"
Da Lench mob "Guerillas in tha mist""
Wc & the Madd circle: Ain't a damm thing changed"
some more I bump on the daily....................
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Slim Shady LP is a classic no doubt..
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ok i'mma quit dissing you becuase you just fucked yourself by saying Art of War is a classic and by saying this....
and about respecting opinions if you wanna settle for second best be my guest, but remember...theres people who truley think the Hot Boys are better than NWA...but that doesn't mean it's true...idiot
That might not mean its true, but they entitled to like what they like. Respect other peoples opinions man. I feel the EXACT same way about 2001 as you do about AOW. Give it a rest already, asshole.
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Hellrazor Im like one of bone's biggets fans eva, but I dont really consider AOW a classic, It was a reaaal great album but it didn't really cross tha classic line. u gotta admit 2001 production was waaayyyy betta than AOW, yur just lyin 2 yurself if u dont believe dat one.
But I agree about Bizzy's vocabulary, kurupt aint got shit on him, as a matter of fact i said this b4 and ill say it again kurupt aint a good lyricist period. Aint nobody give a fuck if a bitch still sucks his dick, or how Dogg pound still tha realest and shit, dat shit's gettin 2 old. Dre aint a good lyricist either.
Although I dont like jayz, i gotta admit he puts it down lyrically, so does Eminem.
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Hellrazor Im like one of bone's biggets fans eva, but I dont really consider AOW a classic, It was a reaaal great album but it didn't really cross tha classic line. u gotta admit 2001 production was waaayyyy betta than AOW, yur just lyin 2 yurself if u dont believe dat one.
But I agree about Bizzy's vocabulary, kurupt aint got shit on him, as a matter of fact i said this b4 and ill say it again kurupt aint a good lyricist period. Aint nobody give a fuck if a bitch still sucks his dick, or how Dogg pound still tha realest and shit, dat shit's gettin 2 old. Dre aint a good lyricist either.
Although I dont like jayz, i gotta admit he puts it down lyrically, so does Eminem.
You cant compare the production on AOW and 2001 though, cuz they are two completely different types of production. I will say though, AOW's production is one of the most diverse albums ive heard. You had fast-paced tracks like Ready 4 War, Handle The Vibe, Let The Law End, or U Aint Bone......then you had hard-hitting beats like in Body Rott, Thug Luv, All Original, 7 Sign, and Look Into My Eyez. Then you had the beatiful, melodic songs like Its All Mo Thug, Mind Of A Soulja, Its All Real, etc etc. I still AOW is a better album, but im not gonna argue about it anymore with him. Peace.
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arguing over
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Ya fuck it, AOW waz an outstanding album, just leave it at dat.
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hellrazor, you are THE biggest fruit i swear gettin' all pissy pants about anthything negative about bone, in your eyez they can do no wrong...maybe they got long hair like him , but they ain't perfect...they aint' Jesus, at least tha7th knows reality
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hellrazor, you are THE biggest fruit i swear gettin' all pissy pants about anthything negative about bone, in your eyez they can do no wrong...maybe they got long hair like him , but they ain't perfect...they aint' Jesus, at least tha7th knows reality
WTF?? When did I ever say they could do no wrong?? I think everything they did 97' and earlier is classic/near classic. Ive already admitted that they aint made a classic since, and the 3rd Mo Thug albums was garbage, Flesh's second solo was very average, The Collection Vol.2 was average, Layzie's album was very average, and BTNHresurrection was good but coulda been much better. I dont see how you can call that dickriding. But you act like Dre is the greatest thing ever. The mothafucka dont even write his own rhymes for godsake.
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Layzies album is dope...Stop trying to un-sound like a dickrider...
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But you act like Dre is the greatest thing ever. The mothafucka dont even write his own rhymes for godsake.
ain't nobody say he was the best rapper, ain't no one think that on here ....we think he's the best producer though...and don't even front on that and say dj u-neek is better
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Layzies album is dope...Stop trying to un-sound like a dickrider...
Layzie's album sucked ASS, except for a few songs. Its bullshit that you hate on AOW, but then turnaround and give phraise to to Layzie's album.
AOW is 38957459067983906985469029876698322659865444444444444444493290531973729867692298
754982753981366798317633-163-926523-97983168796318632169865329876253986532986298
73637 x better than Layzie's album........
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i think lazie bone's album was better than art of war too, don't hate hellrazor ...i dunno what's up with you man, you seriously are full of it....i seriously think your demon possessed...i guess that's becuase of the name...i think we need rev. dogg in here to cast out the evil spirits and exersice them demons. i guess as many times as you listen to all them bone cd's with all those "dark side" themes they kinda infest your mind
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i think lazie bone's album was better than art of war too, don't hate hellrazor ...i dunno what's up with you man, you seriously are full of it....i seriously think your demon possessed...i guess that's becuase of the name...i think we need rev. dogg in here to cast out the evil spirits and exersice them demons. i guess as many times as you listen to all them bone cd's with all those "dark side" themes they kinda infest your mind
Layzie's album is NOWHERE near AOW, and thats A GENERAL CONSENSUS. Go to any board, Bone related or not, and 9 outta every 10 people will tell you that AOW kills Layzie's album. None of the Bone solo albums can touch AOW, and the only ones that are even close are Krayzie's album and Bizzy's second album. But even those cant fuck with AOW. I played Layzie's album for about 2 weeks, and now I rarely play it. AOW still gets solid rotation in my stereo though, even 4 years after its release. Matter of fact, EITHER disc [Disc 1 or Disc 2, take your pick] individually is better than Layzie's album. Layzie's album was very repetitive, and most of the songs sounded the same. Creepin, E.1999 Eternal, AOW, Flesh's first solo, Krayzie's solo, both of Bizzy's solos, the first 2 Mo Thug albums, and Collection Vol.1 all shit on Layzie's album. Only Flesh's second solo, Collection Vol.2, and the 3rd Mo Thug album were worse.
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Wow, what an intelligent post. I dont see how you can think Layzie's album is better than AOW. Funny thing is, I like about half the songs on his album, but the fact alone that its not even a group album almost automatically makes AOW better, and Lay coulda have came much nicer than he did. There were some standout songs like As The Rain, but the album lacked a concept and sounded just a bunch of songs thrown together. AOW was carefully worked on for almost a year, all the concept details were thought out, the production was better, and it was on this album were Bone matured lyrically.
Dont reply to this until you come up with something INTELLIGENT.
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how can you say they matured lyrically when more than half of the lyrics are mid 90's rap cliches??
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I dont know..... I'm probably one of the only few people who thought Art Of War was pretty tight too. It was a lil more laid back.... but I can still listen to the whole cd without skipping ANY songs. There worst cd ever IMO was "BTNHResurrection".
Art Of War aint Classic.... but it's still a tight album... definately not as bad as you make it sound. I thought it was better than Layzie's too. I still respect all your opinions though (ALOT of people didn't like it)..... I'm just sharing mines.
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nwa-straight outta compton
cypress hill-cypress hill
dr. dre- the chronic
nwa-niggaz 4 life
dr. dre-2001
outkast-Aquemini
outkast-Stankonia
2pac-makaveli donkilluminati....
2pac-all eyez on me
2pac-me against the world
snoop doggy dogg-doggystyle
xzibit-at the speed of life
tha dogg pound-dogg food
ice cube-amerikkkaz most wanted
ice cube-death certificate
eazy-e-eazy duz it
the d.o.c-no one can do it better
bone thugs-e 1999 eternal
biggie-ready to die
wu tang- 36 chambers
nas-illmatic
jay-z- reasonable doubt
ll cool j-radio
Public Enemy: It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Digital Underground: Sex Packets
Public Enemy: Apocalypse 91...The Enemy Strikes Black
The Beastie Boys: Paul's Boutique
beastie boys-check your head
tribe called quest-low end theory
tribe called quest-midnight merauders
de la soul-three feet and rising
epmd-strickly business
eric b and rakim-follow the leader
eric b and rakim-paid in full
ice t-original gangsta
afrika bombata-planet rock
public enemy-fear of a black planet
run dmc-raising hell
run dmc-rund dmc
boogie down productions-by all means neccasary
beastie boys-license to ill
slick rick-the great adventures of slick rick
murder was the case soundtrack
above the rim soundtrack
ice t-ice berg freedom of speach...just be careful what you say
warren g-regulate the g funk era
del tha funkee homosapian-i wish my brother george was here
too short-life is too short
above the law-black mafia life
friday soundtrack
gza-liquid swords
raekwon-only built 4 cuban linx
method man-tical
ll cool j-mama said knock you out
boogie down productions-criminal minded
kurupt -streetz iz a mutha
goodie mob-soul food
pete rock and c l smooth-Mecca and the Soul Brother
the pharcyde- Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
the fugees-the score
redman-what the? album
the roots-illadelph halflife
the roots-things fall apart
the roots -organix
dj quik-quik is da name
run dmc-king of rock
mobb deep-the infamous mobb deep
mobb deep-hell on earth
scareface-mr scarface is back
scarface-the diary
getoboys-we can't be stopped
2 live crew- as nasty as they want to be
ol' dirty bastard-return to the 36 chambers
kool keith-dr. octagonist
that one pm dawn album
that should cover it, if i missed any i would be suprised
*note no art of war*
DOG please, EVERYTHING can't be CLASSIC!!!! You have to distinguish between MASTERPIECES (excellent rap albums) and CLASSICS (excellent AND influential rap records). Now, OFF YOUR LIST should be:
Cypress Hill (ok)
Stankonia (masterpiece),
Xzibit; At The speed Of Life (good)
Dogg Food (masterpiece)
Ice Cube, Death Certificate (masterpiece)
Eazy Duz It (just because it launched NWA don't make it a classic)
DOC (masterpiece)
Bone Thugs; E Eternal (good)
LL Cool J; Radio (good)
Digital Underground; Sex Packets (good)
Beastie Boys; all albums are just OK
Eric B and Rakim; Follow The Leader (masterpiece)
Ice T.; Iceberg joint ("maybe")
Afrika Bambaata; Planet Rock (masterpiece)
Del Tha Funky Homosapien (come on, dog...)
Warren G Regulate (masterpiece)
Too Short; Life's too short (good)
Above Tha Law; Black Mafia Life (ok)
Friday Soundtrack (only ONE rap classic on it; we know which one...)
GZA; Liquid Swordz (dope)
Method Man, Tical (masterpiece)
Redman; What Thee Album (masterpiece)
The Roots (all albums masterpieces; never dropped ANY classic)
Kurupt, Streez (banging)
Pharcyde (good)
Goodie Mob, Soul Food (masterpiece)
DJ Quik, Quik is the Name (dope)
Run DMC, King of Rock (ok)
Scarface, Mr Scarface is back (dope)
2 Live Crew; Nasty as They Wanna Be (good)
ODB; Return to the 36 (masterpiece)
Kool Keith; Dr Octagon (whateva)
PM Dawn (you CANNOT be serious, dog...)
Here's MY LIST of definite HIP HOP CLASSICS so far:
DR DRE; The Chronic
DR DRE; 2001
Snoop; Doggystyle
NWA; Straight Outta Compton
NWA; Niggaz4Life
Ice Cube; Amerikkaz Most Wanted
Westside Connection; Bow Down
Mobb Deep; The Infamous + Hell On Earth
Talib Kweli & Hi Tek; Reflection Eternal (Train Of Thought)
BDP; Criminal Minded
KRS ONE; By All Means Necessary
Pete Rock & CL Smooth; Mecca and Soul Brother
Wu Tang Clan; Enta Da 36 Chambers
Raekwon; Only Built For Cuban Linx
Fugees, The Score
Lauryn Hill, Miseducation
Outkast, Aquemini
Scarface, The Diary
Scarface, the Last Of A Dying Breed (Y'all will see 1 day...)
EPMD; Strictly Business
Eric B & Rakim; Paid in Full
Biggie; Ready To Die
Jay Z; Reasonable Doubt
NAS; ILLMATIC
Tribe Called Quest; The Low End Theory
P.E. It Take A Nation Of Millions...
P.E. Fear Of A Black Planet
Slick Rick; The Great Aventures Of Slick Rick
Big Pun; Capital Punishment (don't sleep)
Above The Rim Sdtck
Murder Was The Case sdtrck
De La Soul; 3 Feet high And Rising
Big Daddy Kane; It's a Big Daddy Thing
Gangstarr: EVERY single Gangstarr album is CLASSIC
2PAC; Me Against The World + Makaveli + All Eyez On Me
"Forgotten" MASTERPIECES:
Bone Thugs; Art Of War
Ghostface Killah; Supreme Clientele (could be a classic one day)
Meth and Redman; Blackout
Nas; I Am (don't give 2 fucks what whoever says...)
Jay Z; Hard Knock Life + Dynasty (don't give a fuck neither...)
Naughty By Nature; Poverty's Paradise
DMX; Hell Is Hot... (could be a classic one day; it CHANGED the rap game fo' real)
Pete Rock & CL Smooth; The Main Ingredient
Outkast; Southerplayalistic... + Atliens
Eminem; The Marshall Mathers LP (let's be HONEST)
Wyclef, The Carnival
Scarface, The Untouchable
Kool G Rap; 1 or 2 albums up here
Common; Resurrection
I may have forgotten a couple of "forgotten masterpieces" but my CLASSICS list is final (hopefully).
ONE!
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DOG please, EVERYTHING can't be CLASSIC!!!! You have to distinguish between MASTERPIECES (excellent rap albums) and CLASSICS (excellent AND influential rap records). Now, OFF YOUR LIST should be:
Cypress Hill (ok)
Stankonia (masterpiece),
Xzibit; At The speed Of Life (good)
Dogg Food (masterpiece)
Ice Cube, Death Certificate (masterpiece)
Eazy Duz It (just because it launched NWA don't make it a classic)
DOC (masterpiece)
Bone Thugs; E Eternal (good)
LL Cool J; Radio (good)
Digital Underground; Sex Packets (good)
Beastie Boys; all albums are just OK
Eric B and Rakim; Follow The Leader (masterpiece)
Ice T.; Iceberg joint ("maybe")
Afrika Bambaata; Planet Rock (masterpiece)
Del Tha Funky Homosapien (come on, dog...)
Warren G Regulate (masterpiece)
Too Short; Life's too short (good)
Above Tha Law; Black Mafia Life (ok)
Friday Soundtrack (only ONE rap classic on it; we know which one...)
GZA; Liquid Swordz (dope)
Method Man, Tical (masterpiece)
Redman; What Thee Album (masterpiece)
The Roots (all albums masterpieces; never dropped ANY classic)
Kurupt, Streez (banging)
Pharcyde (good)
Goodie Mob, Soul Food (masterpiece)
DJ Quik, Quik is the Name (dope)
Run DMC, King of Rock (ok)
Scarface, Mr Scarface is back (dope)
2 Live Crew; Nasty as They Wanna Be (good)
ODB; Return to the 36 (masterpiece)
Kool Keith; Dr Octagon (whateva)
PM Dawn (you CANNOT be serious, dog...)
ok "dogg" ask ANY real hip hop fan and they will agree with me
ask ANY rap or music critic and they will agree with me
and i just looked in the dictionary and masterpeice is a synonim for classic....
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I have to agree with BigJake on this one. Now, Riveria, I havent heard all the albums that you think should be taken off Jakes list, but there are 3 VERY notable ones that you say arent classic, but ARE:
Outkast--Stankonia. This has almost literally bridged all music types together, and Kast is still on point lyrically. Best album of 2000.
Bone--E.1999 Eternal. This is a HANDSDOWN classic, and if you dont think so, well, you're in the minority big time. But then again, im in the minority on some of my opinions but I dont see how you cant think this is not a classic album. Its almost flawless from top to bottom.
GZA--Liquid Swords. Classic, easily. One of the best lyrical albums ever, and RZA's darkest production to date. Plus, like E.1999 Eternal, I dont skip any songs on this one. Hands down classic.
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haha razor calm down you want every board to hate you????? and westcoast im gonna side with criminal.... MMLP and SSLP have had an impact on hiphop.... whether it was positive or negative that is yet to be determined but EMINEM opened the door big time for white MCs to enter the game and actually get some sort of respect.... their def was white MCs before eminem but he opened the door for them to get some recognition and respect.....
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Umm, dat list is all good and everythin, but E.99 Eternal waz left out by accident i hope. Theres so many reasons 4 dat album 2 be a classic, dont make me repeat everythin again.
And Stankonia and Gza were both classics also. No doubt.
Also Too Short's Life's too short aint up there either,
Be real man, dat shit is stright up classic.
It aint ur oppinion, It's a HIP HOP classic. ::)
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Umm, dat list is all good and everythin, but E.99 Eternal waz left out by accident i hope. Theres so many reasons 4 dat album 2 be a classic, dont make me repeat everythin again.
And Stankonia and Gza were both classics also. No doubt.
Also Too Short's Life's too short aint up there either,
Be real man, dat shit is stright up classic.
It aint ur oppinion, It's a HIP HOP classic. ::)
Thats what im saying 7th. Ive already explained why E.1999 Eternal is a certified classic. The impact and influence of that cd cant be denied. I swear, me and you should make a "50 reasons why E.1999 is classic" thread. We'd school the fuck outta cats who try to front on that album.....I got cha back. Peace.
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yo hellrazor won't Creepin' On Ah Come Up be considered to have much more impact and to be more influential than E. 1999 Eternal since it came out before it?
Both Albums Get 5/5 From Me Though. But I Think Creepin' On Ah Come Up Is A True Classic Since It Had The REAL Impact And Influence Whereas E. 1999 Eternal Just Sounded Dope.
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yo hellrazor won't Creepin' On Ah Come Up be considered to have much more impact and to be more influential than E. 1999 Eternal since it came out before it?
Both Albums Get 5/5 From Me Though. But I Think Creepin' On Ah Come Up Is A True Classic Since It Had The REAL Impact And Influence Whereas E. 1999 Eternal Just Sounded Dope.
True true. It all depends who you ask. I know alot of people that like Creepin better, but even more people that like Eternal better. Both are classic and two of my fav albums ever, but E.1999 Eternal was Uneeks musical masterpiece, and though Creepin came first, it was Eternal that REALLY defined the Bone sound. If you listen to alot of the midwest cats of today that use Bone's sound as their blueprint, their albums sound alot more like E.1999 than they do Creepin. When Creepin came out, it blew my mind and I didnt think they would ever top it, but when Eternal came out a year later i almost shit in my boxers. I almost cried that shit was sooooo dope. It was NOTHING like id ever heard before. Creepin wasnt either, but it still had that basic 'gangsta rap' sound to it. Its like they took all the cracks in the surface that were on Creepin and polished it up into a dark, gritty, evil ass street album. And the scary thing about Eternal is, it sounds BETTER to me NOW than it did back in the summer of 95'. If an album sounds BETTER 6 years after its release, thats the sign of a TRUE classic. Creepin sounds great still too, but not better. On the real, both albums are classic and its a matter of preference, but I pick Eternal cuz it was their true masterpiece, and was Uneeks finest production. Plus, Creepin was only an EP. Eternal was nearly 70+ minutes and was almost flawless from top to bottom, and the fact that it sold almost 9 million while STILL retaining its street credibility is amazing too. Just my take though. Peace.