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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: bez on September 17, 2007, 09:11:53 AM
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Lets make a list.
1) You know what pisses me off in Wrestling now? The way that the old WCW Heavyweight belt seems more important than the WWE Championship belt. For a start, I hate this belt, it looks taccy and I hate the way the wrestler who holds the belt has their name engraved in it, it looks stupid. This belt is horrible and everytime I see it I think of WCW. The World Wrestling Federation (Entertainment) belt used to be the belt that everyone wanted but now it seems like its second in line. That really pisses me off.
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What pisses me off the most in wrestling right now??? Hmmm...Cena!!! He might be a cool dude in real life but I just hate him as a wrestler. Another thing I dislike are the belts, I mean they're not so important like they used to be. Back in the days when you had the Intercontinental Championship belt it was like "wow" but now nobody gives a shit about that. I mean c'mon, even the top superstars of the WWE were fighting for that belt. Also the matches aren't all that (I'm talking about WWE cause the matches on TNA are very cool & entertaining).
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the fact that wwe doesnt seem to be giving the fans what they want, and that is to be not only entertained by the wrestling matches but to get into the story lines,
its no lie that wrestling was on top when there were Groups and stables, like dx, ministry etc in wwe and nwo in wcw
it keeps fans on there toes, dont know whos is gonna join backstab people, surely they will bring some stables back
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The predictablilty. Last nights Unforgiven, good example. It was so easy to predict Taker winning his match. Why even have it if everyone knows what the outcome will be? Plus, I hate that before a major Pay Per View event you see the wrestlers fight eachother like 10 times before the Pay Per View. Back in the day there was a ton of build up to the WrestleManias, etc. because the wrestlers would hardly ever fight eachother before they met at the Pay Per Views.
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The predictablilty. Last nights Unforgiven, good example. It was so easy to predict Taker winning his match. Why even have it if everyone knows what the outcome will be? Plus, I hate that before a major Pay Per View event you see the wrestlers fight eachother like 10 times before the Pay Per View. Back in the day there was a ton of build up to the WrestleManias, etc. because the wrestlers would hardly ever fight eachother before they met at the Pay Per Views.
Well, what did you expect from the UT match? It was his comeback, of course heīll win. I would LOVE to see someone lose in a comeback match (which could set off a character turn or whatever) but itīs the WWE and itīs not gonna happen.
What I donīt like:
Triple H
Orton
No competition
Internet giving away results (I just canīt stop reading wrestling sites)
No real tag team scene (think about the late 80s - early 90s; that was a fucking tag team scene)
Way too many pvps
and probably way more that I canīt think of at the moment.
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batisa is so shit, he has no personality and no mic skillz, and he looks like he doin a bad goldberg impersonation. orton is boring , cena is boring, ecw is boring edge is boring. hhh is cool, vince still funny to watch cos he an asshole.
and to the nigga who said they dont like WCW u must be out ya god damn mind! the NWO days was the shittttt, they ran shit, aint nothin ever gonna be near that shit.
wrestling aint what it use to be, wcw nwo and wwf attitude era was the best wrestling has ever been , and nothing will ever top that shit.
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the fact that wwe doesnt seem to be giving the fans what they want, and that is to be not only entertained by the wrestling matches but to get into the story lines,
its no lie that wrestling was on top when there were Groups and stables, like dx, ministry etc in wwe and nwo in wcw
it keeps fans on there toes, dont know whos is gonna join backstab people, surely they will bring some stables back
i came in the thread to say exactly the same
thought we was gunna see the start of a new corporation with the whole vince's son thing..instead it was hogswaddle...got a cheap laugh still but it could have been done better..i thought it should have been Kennedy....then have it similar to the rock with Vince doing everything to get and keep Kennedy champ...enlist Orton and Carlito and whoever was kissing mcmahons ass at the time...new corporation!!!...with triple h coming bk to antagonize him it would have been timed perfectly... 8)
instead whats the main storylines???...umm well ive actually forgot which proves how shit it is...dey should let me write it ;D
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it aint the same no more the story lines got kind of gay and alot of wrestlers r getting fired or suspened
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I've been trying to watch wrestling lately and its horrible. There seems to be a Pay Per View every week. The Championship title belt seems to be on the line every week as well. I remember when Hogan or any Champ for that matter would only fight on special occasions. The tag teams are horrible now too. And this whole "brand" thing on WWF is weird. There's two Champs, but to me the Smackdown side of things always seems so second rate. ECW is garbage. Ain't shit hardcore about it. LMAO @ Ol' dude from the Real World being a contender for the title. How did that happen? That TNA show is cool and all, but that fake ass Kane/Mankind dude is wack to me. Kurt Angle and that Samoan dude are dope on that show though. They got some decent cats there, but their story lines are little weak to me.
I guess just wrestling ain't for me. The characters aren't there anymore.
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You know what pisses me off about wrestling ....
... the way there are no characters any more. Remember in the old days when it was basically, if you don't have a character and a persona then you are not Wrestling for this company. People like Austin, the Rock, Kane, Undertaker, and even if we look past that to the likes of Papa Shango who then became the Godfather, 2 Cool, Bret, Hulk, they were all good characters. Now I honestly think there is one 'character' in the business and thats the Boogyman.
You know what else really pisses me off about Wrestling. Is that WWE never got Sting after the buyout. Sting was the man. Everything about him was dope. He was a character. He looked dope in his attire, I loved the way wrestlers were afraid of him and feared him, and he was also a good wrestler. He could of done alot for WWE and also sold them a hell of alot of merchandise. It just sucks the way he never came to WWE and had a good long lasting career, as Sting, at the top of the game.
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the lack of depth on each roster and in each division pisses me off.
i think the Women's division might be the only one with enough depth which is quite sad.
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^I don't care how good looking they are, they suck at wrestling. They should only do bikini contests. The only woman I enjoyed watching at wrestling was Chyna. These "divas" need to step their game up.
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You know what pisses me off about wrestling ....
... the way there are no characters any more. Remember in the old days when it was basically, if you don't have a character and a persona then you are not Wrestling for this company. People like Austin, the Rock, Kane, Undertaker, and even if we look past that to the likes of Papa Shango who then became the Godfather, 2 Cool, Bret, Hulk, they were all good characters. Now I honestly think there is one 'character' in the business and thats the Boogyman.
You know what else really pisses me off about Wrestling. Is that WWE never got Sting after the buyout. Sting was the man. Everything about him was dope. He was a character. He looked dope in his attire, I loved the way wrestlers were afraid of him and feared him, and he was also a good wrestler. He could of done alot for WWE and also sold them a hell of alot of merchandise. It just sucks the way he never came to WWE and had a good long lasting career, as Sting, at the top of the game.
I'm kinda glad sting didn't go to WWE, the thought of him with that company just doesn't seem right. Hes doing fine in TNA now.
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^I don't care how good looking they are, they suck at wrestling. They should only do bikini contests. The only woman I enjoyed watching at wrestling was Chyna. These "divas" need to step their game up.
Mickie James is actually pretty good in the ring,but shes probably the only one.
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The ECW brand doesn't contribute anything to WWE anymore its pretty much slimmed down to a sunday night heat type show. LOL @ Big Daddy V. It was already bad enough with the first brand extension.
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You know what pisses me off about wrestling ....
... the way there are no characters any more. Remember in the old days when it was basically, if you don't have a character and a persona then you are not Wrestling for this company. People like Austin, the Rock, Kane, Undertaker, and even if we look past that to the likes of Papa Shango who then became the Godfather, 2 Cool, Bret, Hulk, they were all good characters. Now I honestly think there is one 'character' in the business and thats the Boogyman.
preach nigga
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Does anyone over the age of 16 still watch this???
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the wrestlers and the ring
and boo-yaa- that shit in your avatar is still some of the funniest shit around
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You know what pisses me off about Wrestling now?
Tag teams. What has happened to the tag team division. The tag team division used to be full of competitive teams that spent years together perfecting their act and moves, but now it just seems like if two wrestlers suck in single competition they get shoved into a tag team. What happened to the Road Dogg and Bad Ass, the Bushwhackers, L.O.D, The Acolytes, The Rockers, Demolition, Edge and Christian, The Hardys ... who have we got now that even compare to these teams? Nobody!!!
You know what else pisses me off about wrestling. Vince Mcmahon. You have more limelight than the wrestlers that work for you. Ok the Corparation thing years ago, that was dope. But after all that finished you should of taken a backseat and let the wrestlers be the entertainers, not you. All you have done for the last five years is make yourself look like a fool on television and its now obvious to everyone that you enjoy the limelight more than anyone in your company. Vince Vs Trump, Vince is dead, Vince's illigetimate son, Vince vs DX (again), just please give us a rest and retire to your office. We dont want to see you on television anymore.
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^Vince is way more entertaining than the wrestlers.
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I came into this thread to post exactly that. I've tried on numerous occasions to watch it again, cus I use to be a big fan. But I just can't.
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Lets make a list.
1) You know what pisses me off in Wrestling now? The way that the old WCW Heavyweight belt seems more important than the WWE Championship belt. For a start, I hate this belt, it looks taccy and I hate the way the wrestler who holds the belt has their name engraved in it, it looks stupid. This belt is horrible and everytime I see it I think of WCW. The World Wrestling Federation (Entertainment) belt used to be the belt that everyone wanted but now it seems like its second in line. That really pisses me off.
I prefer the Ric Flair belt. I think it looks nicer, particularly nicer than the Cena spinning belt. Add to that the fact that the Ric Flair belt was originally created as the new look NWA belt and the NWA belt is way more significant to wrestling than the WWF belt.
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The Rock isn't there
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John Cena's reign of terror
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true story
it aint the same as it use to be
WCW with macho man, hogan, and rick flare >>>>>>>>>todays wrestling
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firing cryme tyme and marcus cor von (i hope it aint a race issue)
cena being immortal
king bookAAAAH quitting
khali winning the title but not kane
not pushing world's greatest tag team,
alll the wrestlers i hate holding titles and being pushed to the moon and not getting fired
suspendng mr. kennedy 4 impersonating a mcmahon
undertaker getting injured making his title reign short
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its like WWE aint no longer putting much thought into storylines, wrestlers, creativity because they got too much shit running and going on...they got 3 brands...back then it was so great because there was only one brand and competition was wcw
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^^Yup...Ultimately, I think the whole splitting up shit is what ruined it. It makes it everything feel so cluttered and much more annoying to try and follow. Wrestling died about the same time as the Attitude era...PeACe
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The lack of competition is definitely the thing that bothers me the most. I've been watching less and less wrestling since Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit died. It's hard to watch these guys on TV when you know they're working too hard and may possibly end up dead as well.
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Check out this quote from Jim Ross - from his weekly Blog
Jim Ross On Wrestlers From The 80`s:
"Stars of the 80s would blow the vast majority of wrestlers of today away and would definitely be HUGE stars in todays marketplace. Race, Rhodes, DiBiase, Steamboat, Midnight Express, R n R Express, etc would all be wealthy individuals if they were in their prime today and many wrestlers who do have full-time jobs in wrestling would be looking for work" - Jim Ross
That's an understatment.
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You know what really pisses me off about wrestling now, entrances and themes. Entrances and themes used to be the thing that got a crowd hyped before a match. A unique entrance or dope theme tune would signal a certain wrestler is here, coming to do damage in the ring and put on a good show for us. Where the hell has that gone now? Every wrestlers entrances are basically the same and theme music seems like it has been made overnight with no consideration given to crowd appeal. Remember the glass smashing at the start of Stone Cold's music!!! Remember 'Do you smell what the Rock is cookin!' Remember Rey Mysterio jumping out of the floor! Remember Edge appearing from the crowd? Remember Gangrel coming out of the floor in a ring of fire! Remember Kane and the scarey as fuck music! Remember DX, XPac, Macho Man, Ric Flair, New Age Outlaws, Mankinds (old theme). There entrances and music's basically made the crowd stand on their feet and show love and support. But now everyone is the same. Everyone walks to the ring with a shit music and people are like yaayyyyy. If you are lucky you will get some crap fireworks behind you. Just awful.
You know what pisses me off about wrestling now! Managers! Where have all the good managers gone that could play a decent role and always have the back of their guy. The Sensational Sherri's, the Mr Fuji's, The Big dude that was with the original DX, Chyna, Sunny and a whole host of others. These was always a good part of wrestling for me as they would always be a ringside and getting involved in the match. E.G, Deborah showing her 'puppies' to the ref as a distraction so Double J could get the pin. Whats happened to managers?
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^^Wrestling just has no more charisma in general...
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^^Yup...Ultimately, I think the whole splitting up shit is what ruined it. It makes it everything feel so cluttered and much more annoying to try and follow. Wrestling died about the same time as the Attitude era...PeACe
real spit.
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#1 John Cena
#2 Batista
#3 there are no REAL WRESTLERS anymore
#4 there storylines are pure garbage
like the other dude said too predictable
Thanx 2 Vince for makin ECW the biggest Joke ever
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#1 John Cena
#2 Batista
#3 there are no REAL WRESTLERS anymore
#4 there storylines are pure garbage
like the other dude said too predictable
Thanx 2 Vince for makin ECW the biggest Joke ever
niggas makin bank though
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#1 John Cena
#2 Batista
#3 there are no REAL WRESTLERS anymore
#4 there storylines are pure garbage
like the other dude said too predictable
Thanx 2 Vince for makin ECW the biggest Joke ever
niggas makin bank though
yeeah no doubt Swangin I try and watch 2 give it a chance but its no good yo :'(
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#1 John Cena
#2 Batista
#3 there are no REAL WRESTLERS anymore
#4 there storylines are pure garbage
like the other dude said too predictable
Thanx 2 Vince for makin ECW the biggest Joke ever
niggas makin bank though
yeeah no doubt Swangin I try and watch 2 give it a chance but its no good yo :'(
i dont watch it either
but my little cousins love that shit
1 is constantly doing the DX thing on his nutts, one thinks hes john cena, the other gets mad if some one says anything bad about batista
they got posters and shit in they rooms
but i use to watch it back in the day
my favorite wrestler use to be alex wright
dude had madd swag
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#1 John Cena
#2 Batista
#3 there are no REAL WRESTLERS anymore
#4 there storylines are pure garbage
like the other dude said too predictable
Thanx 2 Vince for makin ECW the biggest Joke ever
niggas makin bank though
yeeah no doubt Swangin I try and watch 2 give it a chance but its no good yo :'(
my favorite wrestler use to be alex wright
dude had madd swag
The question is, did you like him as Alex Wright, or Berlyn :)
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#1 John Cena
#2 Batista
#3 there are no REAL WRESTLERS anymore
#4 there storylines are pure garbage
like the other dude said too predictable
Thanx 2 Vince for makin ECW the biggest Joke ever
niggas makin bank though
yeeah no doubt Swangin I try and watch 2 give it a chance but its no good yo :'(
my favorite wrestler use to be alex wright
dude had madd swag
The question is, did you like him as Alex Wright, or Berlyn :)
alex wright had swag berlyn not so much
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#1 John Cena
#2 Batista
#3 there are no REAL WRESTLERS anymore
#4 there storylines are pure garbage
like the other dude said too predictable
Thanx 2 Vince for makin ECW the biggest Joke ever
niggas makin bank though
yeeah no doubt Swangin I try and watch 2 give it a chance but its no good yo :'(
my favorite wrestler use to be alex wright
dude had madd swag
The question is, did you like him as Alex Wright, or Berlyn :)
alex wright had swag berlyn not so much
But yet Berlyn > Everyone that has ever lived
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The Wunderkind Alex Wright, wow. I always hated his gay dancing routines, he was the definition of a babyface though. He just looked so "nice."
(http://www.genickbruch.com/pics/bios/133.jpg)
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you know what really pisses me off about Wrestling now ...
The Hardcore Championship. 24/7! Of all the things not to bring back in Wrestling. How much fun and entertainment did we have watching Crash Holly rin into a hotel room with Earl Hebner and getting the pin over Mosh or Thrasher from the Headbangers. Just hilarious. Imagine how good this could of been now that ECW is back aswell. We could of had wrestlers going from company to company to fight 24/7 for this belt. It would of been great. Maybe some things are better off left untouched, but I truly believe the 24/7 hardcore championship was one of the best divisions back then. It was fun, entertaining, and gave wrestlers whom never really would make it to the big time a shot at something. Crash Holly made this division! God bless you Crash!
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You know what really pisses me off about wrestling now, entrances and themes. Entrances and themes used to be the thing that got a crowd hyped before a match. A unique entrance or dope theme tune would signal a certain wrestler is here, coming to do damage in the ring and put on a good show for us. Where the hell has that gone now? Every wrestlers entrances are basically the same and theme music seems like it has been made overnight with no consideration given to crowd appeal. Remember the glass smashing at the start of Stone Cold's music!!! Remember 'Do you smell what the Rock is cookin!' Remember Rey Mysterio jumping out of the floor! Remember Edge appearing from the crowd? Remember Gangrel coming out of the floor in a ring of fire! Remember Kane and the scarey as fuck music! Remember DX, XPac, Macho Man, Ric Flair, New Age Outlaws, Mankinds (old theme). There entrances and music's basically made the crowd stand on their feet and show love and support. But now everyone is the same. Everyone walks to the ring with a shit music and people are like yaayyyyy. If you are lucky you will get some crap fireworks behind you. Just awful.
You know what pisses me off about wrestling now! Managers! Where have all the good managers gone that could play a decent role and always have the back of their guy. The Sensational Sherri's, the Mr Fuji's, The Big dude that was with the original DX, Chyna, Sunny and a whole host of others. These was always a good part of wrestling for me as they would always be a ringside and getting involved in the match. E.G, Deborah showing her 'puppies' to the ref as a distraction so Double J could get the pin. Whats happened to managers?
man i agree with you on nearly every point so far, but especially these two
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The Wunderkind Alex Wright, wow. I always hated his gay dancing routines, he was the definition of a babyface though. He just looked so "nice."
(http://www.genickbruch.com/pics/bios/133.jpg)
That dude used to have Eurotrash gay stripper written all over him. He used to wear those loud neon panty draws and I don't remember him getting Val Venis type reactions from the ladies...