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Title: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: R-Tistic on September 20, 2007, 09:16:52 PM
I don't think this is really a major issue...but I have always wondered what most people think. Do you consider this release to be from the 90's, or do you consider it to be from this decade?

Some people will say 90's because it was released in November of 1999...so technically, it is a 90's release. However...most people would probably say 2000's for several reasons....for one, the title itself is "2001" and there are actually a lot of people who think the album dropped in 2001. The songs got the most play in 2000, since the singles didn't drop til October of 2000, and they stayed in rotation until Fall of 2000...so it got most of it's prime time play during 2000. Also, the sound itself sounds a LOT more "2000" than 90's, as it basically changed the game up and had many people trying to sound like this in this decade.

So personally....I'm on the fence about it. Technically, it is 90's...but I would like to place it as being part of this decade for the reasons listed.
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2007, 09:25:58 PM
i gotta go technical, 90s release
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: d-nice on September 20, 2007, 09:44:47 PM
I always looked at the title as showing Dre has a "new millenium" style of beats and rhymes with the guests so as a release= 90's, as a body of work=2000's as far as showcasing his new style of beats.
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: Ozir on September 20, 2007, 09:52:30 PM
90's
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: Hatesrats™ on September 20, 2007, 10:06:25 PM
I always looked at the title as showing Dre has a "new millenium" style of beats and rhymes with the guests so as a release= 90's, as a body of work=2000's as far as showcasing his new style of beats.

Yep.I remember they played almost alll the tracks on the radio the summer of 2000,
Then I went to concert at Arrow Pond Of Anaheim. I´m mad that they didn´t include the NWA part on the DVD,
what do I consider The Chronic 2001 album?. Well I got to to say a 2000 album because all the style´s of beats that the album inspired like Kurupt´s Space Boogie etc. .....

I agree with both of you.
This marked the end of the G-Funk 90's sounding DRE.
he officialy (IMO) buried the 90's Dre sound era & began his new movement with 2001. (Not working...lol)

a 2000

Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on September 20, 2007, 10:11:18 PM
It came out novemner of 99 so tech its 90s but its 2 months off being 2000. The first single came out in october wich was still dre the rest in  2000. forgot about Dre the 2nd singkle came out in early january if i rememeber right.

It dosent have a 90 feel it def has a early 2000 feel and is on par with the records coming out around that era and paved the way for the begining of the year 2000's
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: d-nice on September 20, 2007, 10:13:35 PM
I always looked at the title as showing Dre has a "new millenium" style of beats and rhymes with the guests so as a release= 90's, as a body of work=2000's as far as showcasing his new style of beats.

Yep.I remember they played almost alll the tracks on the radio the summer of 2000,
Then I went to concert at Arrow Pond Of Anaheim. I´m mad that they didn´t include the NWA part on the DVD,
what do I consider The Chronic 2001 album?. Well I got to to say a 2000 album because all the style´s of beats that the album inspired like Kurupt´s Space Boogie etc. .....

Co-sign. And Scott Storch as well. That album was a starting point for him to get the BIG name artists to start working with him and that sound started to appear on alot of albums. Definitely you can tell it inspired Fred Wreck. And not only that, even the leftover tracks were used on other albums (Restless, Last Meal, etc) so it definitely kicked off the new millenium for the west coast.
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2007, 10:19:55 PM
I always looked at the title as showing Dre has a "new millenium" style of beats and rhymes with the guests so as a release= 90's, as a body of work=2000's as far as showcasing his new style of beats.
PERFECT way 2 explain it in my books

props ;D
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: 805Cyclone on September 20, 2007, 10:27:17 PM
It was released late 99.
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: d-nice on September 20, 2007, 10:33:01 PM
Yeah Fred definitely had some similar beats like that on Space Boogie and on the Bones soundtrack. He is a understudy of Muggs and Dre, so at times he can sound alot like both of them. Not at bad thing if you ask me. LOL! But for me that was why I liked him doing projects with DPGC and other west coast artists because his beats sounded Dre like, but not so much that they were biting too much.
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: BANANAS on September 20, 2007, 11:55:23 PM
2000's cuz i know dudes knocking that in their trucks still today like its the hottest shit to put thru a system
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: J$crILLa on September 21, 2007, 12:52:29 AM
90s

dropped in 99 so its 90s
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on September 21, 2007, 02:00:30 AM
I would go with "2000" 's

In the 90's, music was all about chillin' and a melodic, smooth beat. Music had to sound good
Since this album, music has to be loud with a massive beat that knocks in your system (look as Dirty South/Crunk). Nobody gives a fuck about how it sounds as long as it is loud.
Dre's album was the beginning of this era. His album had a good sound, but some other dudes who have no talent copied his style.

For me this album marks the end of 90's sound, because the priorities of how a rap album has to sound changed
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: Shango on September 21, 2007, 06:25:06 AM
90's

Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on September 21, 2007, 06:59:52 AM
I consider it the end of the great 90's era, Streetz also dropped the same day that was a great time for hiphop
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2007, 07:21:31 AM
i gotta go technical, 90s release
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: Raje on September 21, 2007, 07:37:28 AM
I don't think this is really a major issue...but I have always wondered what most people think. Do you consider this release to be from the 90's, or do you consider it to be from this decade?

Some people will say 90's because it was released in November of 1999...so technically, it is a 90's release. However...most people would probably say 2000's for several reasons....for one, the title itself is "2001" and there are actually a lot of people who think the album dropped in 2001. The songs got the most play in 2000, since the singles didn't drop til October of 2000, and they stayed in rotation until Fall of 2000...so it got most of it's prime time play during 2000. Also, the sound itself sounds a LOT more "2000" than 90's, as it basically changed the game up and had many people trying to sound like this in this decade.

So personally....I'm on the fence about it. Technically, it is 90's...but I would like to place it as being part of this decade for the reasons listed.
It was called 2001 cuz Death Row already used 2000. I'd say it's a 2000 release. Cuz once you got it, it was 2000 a month later
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: TRG on September 21, 2007, 07:57:50 AM
90's

Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: Brazemac on September 21, 2007, 08:25:04 AM
I don't think this is really a major issue...but I have always wondered what most people think. Do you consider this release to be from the 90's, or do you consider it to be from this decade?

Some people will say 90's because it was released in November of 1999...so technically, it is a 90's release. However...most people would probably say 2000's for several reasons....for one, the title itself is "2001" and there are actually a lot of people who think the album dropped in 2001. The songs got the most play in 2000, since the singles didn't drop til October of 2000, and they stayed in rotation until Fall of 2000...so it got most of it's prime time play during 2000. Also, the sound itself sounds a LOT more "2000" than 90's, as it basically changed the game up and had many people trying to sound like this in this decade.

So personally....I'm on the fence about it. Technically, it is 90's...but I would like to place it as being part of this decade for the reasons listed.
It was called 2001 cuz Death Row already used 2000. I'd say it's a 2000 release. Cuz once you got it, it was 2000 a month later
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: Twisted Smoke on September 21, 2007, 09:21:18 AM
90's

Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: dloc187 on September 21, 2007, 09:44:08 AM
It was released in 1999 so it's a 90's release technically. Remember people, even if it was released in 2000 it would still be a 90's release since the new decade didn't officially start until 1-1-2001.

Case Closed!

PS: I like popcorn!
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: R-Tistic on September 21, 2007, 11:01:19 AM
It was released in 1999 so it's a 90's release technically. Remember people, even if it was released in 2000 it would still be a 90's release since the new decade didn't officially start until 1-1-2001.

Case Closed!

PS: I like popcorn!

I don't think it goes like that....the Millenium itself didn't start until then, but as far as decades, they go from the 0 to the 9....so people have considered 1990 to be the "90's", 80 to be the "80's", etc. etc. even if it is technically considered to be part of the previous decade.
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: d-nice on September 21, 2007, 11:14:24 AM
Yeah I don't know what dloc is talking about but 2000 is the start of a new decade.
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: Dodgers#1 on September 21, 2007, 11:40:47 AM
90's
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: Ozir on September 21, 2007, 03:37:58 PM
IMO, the Westcoast decade people refer to as "The 90's" is not defined as 1990 - 2000.

I define it as 1992 - 2001 (10 years) ... from when "The Chronic" dropped to when "2001" buzz died out.

Dre started it and finished it with his two albums.
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2007, 04:48:03 PM
How is 92 - 01 ten years ???

And the 90's is 1990 - 2000. that's logic. Westcoast decade? wtf?
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: We Fly High on September 21, 2007, 07:13:13 PM
i think he meant 92-01 as in the full years, like Jan 92-Dec 01. thats 10 years.

but i consider that all the "90s".. like ozir said.. cos in 2001 they were still ridin the hell outta like eastsidaz,kurupt, dre, etc.. and then after that year, the west coast just went downhill... so i tend to classify it in, more or less, the same era as all the good songs from like the mid 90s.

like i remember in my first year of college, which was August 2001 - May 2002, Power 106 was bumpin the shit outta I Luv It, Quik/Dre had Put It On Me, Bad Intentions, The Wash, On the Blvd, Area Codes (with Nate), Oh No (with Nate), Jay-Z Change The Game Remix with DPG, Liks - Best You Can, Dre had Family Affair with Mary, Xzibit had Restless out..Snoop had the Welcome to LA remix with JD/Luda. Snoop had Loosen Control, Chico coolwadda, high come down, fabulous you cant deny it (with nate), Wrong Idea, Behind the Walls, etc.. like it was damn good radio back then now that i think about it.

but the following year, 50 hit the scene, and it was a wrap.
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: Blood$ on September 21, 2007, 07:55:06 PM
it got that 2000's sound to it, so that's my answer... classic album regardless
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: Darksider on September 21, 2007, 08:03:20 PM
it got that 2000's sound to it, so that's my answer... classic album regardless
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: Eddie G. on September 21, 2007, 10:06:34 PM
2000s
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's release?
Post by: WestCoasta on September 21, 2007, 11:33:09 PM
well it was made in the late-late 90's

but at the same time it's been played non-stop in the 2000's

I remember 2000 in 7th grade playin it..... so more likely a 2000's album to me
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: K.Dub on September 22, 2007, 04:39:12 AM
i think he meant 92-01 as in the full years, like Jan 92-Dec 01. thats 10 years.

but i consider that all the "90s".. like ozir said.. cos in 2001 they were still ridin the hell outta like eastsidaz,kurupt, dre, etc.. and then after that year, the west coast just went downhill... so i tend to classify it in, more or less, the same era as all the good songs from like the mid 90s.

like i remember in my first year of college, which was August 2001 - May 2002, Power 106 was bumpin the shit outta I Luv It, Quik/Dre had Put It On Me, Bad Intentions, The Wash, On the Blvd, Area Codes (with Nate), Oh No (with Nate), Jay-Z Change The Game Remix with DPG, Liks - Best You Can, Dre had Family Affair with Mary, Xzibit had Restless out..Snoop had the Welcome to LA remix with JD/Luda. Snoop had Loosen Control, Chico coolwadda, high come down, fabulous you cant deny it (with nate), Wrong Idea, Behind the Walls, etc.. like it was damn good radio back then now that i think about it.

but the following year, 50 hit the scene, and it was a wrap.

Word
Title: Re: Do you consider Dr. Dre 2001 a.k.a. "Chronic 2001" as a 90's or 2000's relea
Post by: WestCoasta on September 22, 2007, 01:33:07 PM
i think he meant 92-01 as in the full years, like Jan 92-Dec 01. thats 10 years.

but i consider that all the "90s".. like ozir said.. cos in 2001 they were still ridin the hell outta like eastsidaz,kurupt, dre, etc.. and then after that year, the west coast just went downhill... so i tend to classify it in, more or less, the same era as all the good songs from like the mid 90s.

like i remember in my first year of college, which was August 2001 - May 2002, Power 106 was bumpin the shit outta I Luv It, Quik/Dre had Put It On Me, Bad Intentions, The Wash, On the Blvd, Area Codes (with Nate), Oh No (with Nate), Jay-Z Change The Game Remix with DPG, Liks - Best You Can, Dre had Family Affair with Mary, Xzibit had Restless out..Snoop had the Welcome to LA remix with JD/Luda. Snoop had Loosen Control, Chico coolwadda, high come down, fabulous you cant deny it (with nate), Wrong Idea, Behind the Walls, etc.. like it was damn good radio back then now that i think about it.

but the following year, 50 hit the scene, and it was a wrap.

Word

couldn't have said it better