West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: So Much Style on September 22, 2007, 01:21:54 AM
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yep,
today i was in downtown LA and some soft ass song was playin in a lounge and it was the exact beat. Never heard the song before....had the same instruments and all, i thought dre just through some harder drums on it, but then the drums kicked in on that track too and it was exactly the same!!!! Just another "kill you" , "Cali love" , "G thing", and "Gz and hustluz" for dre....str8 jacked!
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hello captain obvious
everyone knows the sample was tkaen from the same song Dre sampled for Eminem's "Stan" and its Dido "Thank You" that it samples
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LOL @ SAMPLES!!!
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lol at you chump change
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LMAO
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are you sure it wasnt the instrumental?
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LMAO at this idiot posting on a hip-hop board and not knowing the first thing about samples
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It's not the exact same beat. He added a lot to it and it's just a short 1 or 2 bar loop of part of the song. Anybody that's heard "Stan" probably recognized it immediately, plus "Thank You" was probably as big of a hit as Stan was, even though Stan was what kind of drove it to being famous. In the chorus Dre's added a lot of strings keys and a bassline. I think he touched the drums up too.
When Dre put out "Chronic 2001", everybody was sampling, and he only had 2 or whatever samples on the whole c.d. Now, hardly anybody samples, and Dre's sampling again. It's like a big game of follow the leader.
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I've came to terms with accepting the similarities of both songs. Whatever can make Snoop spit a hot verse these days is great.
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When Dre put out "Chronic 2001", everybody was sampling, and he only had 2 or whatever samples on the whole c.d. Now, hardly anybody samples, and Dre's sampling again. It's like a big game of follow the leader.
There are lots of samples on 2001 (well interplotations to be precise).
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LMAO at this idiot posting on a hip-hop board and not knowing the first thing about samples
True
TRUE 8)
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LOL, yeah i guess me studying music and making it for over 6 years means i know NOTHING about sampling, lol @ yall chumps.....My point is, there is a difference between SAMPLING and STEALING. I bet yall will defend dre for eminem's "kill you" too huh???
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I actually did a thread on this a few weeks back. I at first was clowning the sample, but Dre added so much to that track with the keys, bassline, organs, etc that he really made that track more sinister and gangsta. So as long as you flip the sample you are using and make it fit your sound, it's all good IMO.
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another free post? lol
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Hmm.... it screams Free Post ...but it's got a tad bit more thought process than the usual Free Post threads...
Verdict is still out... I will let you guys decide before popping open the Free Post champagne...
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in hip hop, theres a THIN line between sampling and stealing....
thats just how its been for a while.......I love dre, but yes he does steal sometimes.....even as a huge dre fan I gotta admit that, if u dont, ur just a dickryder.....what Primo does is sampling, and if u take a beat enough for someone else to recognize the sample, that means it hasnt been chopped up enough, which is fine since there are such things as doing covers....but when credits not given, thats when I consider it stealing.....
so the question is, did dre give credit to the song?? I dont know cuz I didnt buy snoop's cd so i dont have the cd booklet....someone confirm this
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I actually did a thread on this a few weeks back. I at first was clowning the sample, but Dre added so much to that track with the keys, bassline, organs, etc that he really made that track more sinister and gangsta. So as long as you flip the sample you are using and make it fit your sound, it's all good IMO.
sorry, where do you hear n organ?
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In the chorus you can hear an organ in the background. I think the drums have been added to as well, there's obviously a piano roll in the chorus, and there's a bassline. That's about it. The rest is just a small loop.
Dre did an interview in the Source years ago where he mentioned that he always smacked himself because Puffy would sample things and Dre would think 'I've got that record at home... why didn't I think of that???'
This is an example of Dre sampling a great track he heard somebody else sample (Stan), and making it his own way. I like it, it's a pretty nice track.