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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: mellowman on July 17, 2001, 10:54:59 PM
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sorry i’ve been gone for a week but thats just the way it is. i know i’m behind in answering your questions. i’m sorry. i’ll try to get to them this weekend sometime. now its time for a couple of posts addressing the questions brought up on the “new articles on dre’s production secrets” thread and a few other threads. i’ve also got a few messages about this topic. this will be the last time i’m gonna talk about the speculation on who i am. this post is also the last time I am going to post anything in regards to topics about me. i’m tired of it and i don’t want any more attention. i apologize if this brings up a topic that died down a few days ago. but i haven’t visited the site since last monday and when i came back tonight after a long day in the lab and some hang time i read some comments and stabs at me that i want to address and get out of the way, so it never comes up again. from now on
its strictly about the music and your questions.
NOW, when i first started this board i said “who i am is unimportant. what info and insights i can give you is important”. i have always said you can take my posts as bullshit and ignore me.or you can use my posts as credible inside information and get some enjoyment and knowledge from them. you can love me, hate me, whatever. but my posts were never meant to be about me. i have never once bragged about who i am or who i know. i have never once rubbed any of my success or my money in anyone’s face. if any of my comments were taken that way i
apologize. these things have nothing whatsoever to do with what and why i post. another reason i don’t bring this up is because my material possessions, bank balance and recognition don’t really matter to me . i’d be ignorant and idiodic if i didn’t say i love having all the nice things i have and the rewards i get from my job, because i do. that’s what you work so hard for in life. but in the end what you think about me doesn’t matter. if my family and the people i love love me, thats the most important thing in the world to me. i can have a billion dollars and every material possession in the world but if i don’t love my family and my family doesn’t love me back i am the poorest man in the world.
i love music and i love the people i work with. and i will defend them til the day i die. all the rumors, lies and shady dealings against my musical family must be rebutted and/or argued with the truth. but i have never made fun of anyone or personally went after someone(except the jealous and brother hatin suge knight. i’ve strongly criticized him, but if you were in my shoes and saw what ive seen and heard what ive heard you would feel the exact sameway ,i promise you. and believe me there were a lot of things i wanted to say about suge but i bit my tongue). if i have done anything hurtful to anyone at any time, it was never my intent. so if my comments hurt
anyone i apologize. i don’t think i did, but i may have went too far and crossed the line on n-imy so i apologized to him. and when i strongly disagreed with Cwalker187’s ridiculous post about dre falling off I went after his post very hard but i made sure i didn’t cross the line and go after him as a person. why? because i don’t know him. he could be the coolest dude in the world. plus he has his opinion and he’s not gonna change it no matter how hard i try or no matter how easily i think i prove him wrong. so believe me, I’m a long way from perfect. i am very flawed just like everyone else, so i have made mistakes and will continue to make them. a few times on this board i have let my emotions get the best of me on things close to my heart . but i have tried to treat everyone with respect and stayed out of beefs. if i have a problem with someone or i am going to personally attack someone i will look into their eyes like a man, say it to their face and prepare to face the consequences of my words and defend myself if necessary. i’m not gonna be no punk and do it from behind a goddamn computer. its like killing someone with a driveby or shooting them in the back. its easy but it ain’t the way a real man handles his business.
my first post on this board was in regards to upcoming dre collabs and albums. i posted a lot of things no one knew of before. a lot of them have come true and most will continue to come true. look it up.all of my posts regarding dre projects have been about things agreed upon, have happened or are happening. people on this board who have been here the last six months can attest that most of my info and insights come true or are things that anyone outside of aftermath or dre wouldn’t know. not everything dre wants to do happens.t here isn’t always time or something occurs that not every planned project can happen. i am not dre so i will never be accurate every time. but my success rate is very good. but i will not speculate on things that don’t have a good chance of happening. thats unfair to you, the artists involved and especially dre. i will not compromise my situation or the people who trust me. i do not know when albums will come out. why? because i have no say in the 2 biggest decisions. those decisions are 1)what is going to be put out in stores and 2)what dates those things will be released. aftermath is dre’s company. he decides what comes out, what artists are going to work on the projects, what direction the project will go,what it will sound like,etc. and he will take his time to make the music as good as he can make it. he wants classic albums every time. he and everyone involved give their heart and souls to the music. for us and for
you. so i can tell you what projects are happening, how they are going and my opinions on them. but when it comes to all final decisions with Aftermath Entertainment Dr. Dre is god. when dre is ready for an album to come out he gives it to jimmy iovine. dre has total control until the recording, and mixing is done ,and the final product is ready to come out. once that happens Vivendi Universal/Intercope decide when the album will hit stores. as far as my insights about dre’s history, past projects and how he works in the studio you can check them out as
long as i have been here.long before these recent articles, i told you about how dre creates his music, the input of his musicians, coproducers and artists and shit you can’t possible know unless you see it first hand. but i’m done defending myself. like i said, believe what you want to believe. i have no control over your judgement of me so i will not worry about it. who am i? i could be a computer geek inside aftermath or universal with good ears. i could be any executive or employee. i could be a cook. i could bring the coffee and the weed into the studio. i could be a musician, producer, artist, engineer. i could be anyone.. but once again i will not compromise my situation or the people who trust me.
that’s why you will never know who i am. plus in the end it don’t matter who the fuck i am. i’m posting to give you insights, information and news.thats all that matters. if you don’t want me to post anymore just let me know. if you want me gone i am gone. it would be a lot easier for me to disappear. the time i take on this board i could be spending on work or family. instead i try to give you guys what you want and deserve. without you true fans i/we ain’t shit. i post on here for the die hard fans. i appreciate the support i get from many of you. you are why i stick around. i will continue to post news and insights. in the future i will try my best to stick to those 2 things along with a few opinions. god, i love music. thats why i am here. I’m proud of who i am and of what i/we have done, but i’m not here to boost my ego or brag or receive recognition. i love music and thats what this board is about right?
sorry to go on this long, but i wanted to end this shit for good. please remember - its not about me! its all about the music!
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hey man what up ?
welcome back.. its cool havin u here bro
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JEZE MELLOW!
BIT EARLIY IN THE A.M. TAKE THAT IN!!
BUT I AGREE WITH THE FACT BOUT SPECULATION OF WHO U R.....KILL IT
SUM PEOPLE THINK U R FAKE BUT MOST OF US C U BRING THE TITE INFO!!
AND HATERS OF DRE NEED 2 STEP BACK, AND TAKE A LOOK AT HIM AND WOT HE HAS DONE/DOING...
TELL EM MELLOW - "IT AINT NUTHIN BUT MUUUSIC"
peace
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now that i got that out of the way i must respond to one more person. after this post i will never respond to any personal attacks against me or hurtful comments from someone whodisses me for no reason. from now on do what you gotta do and say what you gotta say. i’m not gonna waste my time responding. on a recent topic, me and others were having a positive conversation about some great articles that came out recently about dre’s production.and out of the blue a guy named docb came after me very hard. (sorry to point you out but you started it. your own words opened the window for a response) i responded with some respectful comments and nicely blew him off and defended dre. but he came after me again and threatened to expose me. he even got into dissin some board members and slowly started to point out that dre isn’t really that great and anyone could make better beats. docb went on acting like he was the greatest gift to production ever to walk the earth. here’s my final response to docb and anyone who threatens me or calls me a liar now or in the future.
first i’m gonna address his big talk about being so talented. docb, obviously you have some issues, man. i’m sorry if your going through some hard times, but don’t blame everybody else or people doing better than you. for some one who hasn’t really accomplished anything in the music world you sure have a big ego.you make some beats on your own and you seem to have a decent understanding of music. but you don’t have a record deal, you’ve probably never even released a real song, you’ve never produced a song for a real artist, you haven’t released an album(let alone a quality one), and you haven’t made a hit. so if you think your “qualified” think again. your giving yourself false hope if you think you are. you told bigjake you have unheard tracks that he couldn’t “fathom”. where are they? millions of people brag about what they got , when they are really just talkin loud and ain’t saying nothing. right now your ego is writing checks your music can’t cash. people judge you on your music not words or promises. just relax and let your music talk for you. if by some miracle you ever get your music widely released keep your talking to a minimum. just say, “to everyone who ever doubted me, listen to this shit.” if its as good as you think it is you don’t have to say another word and the music will silence your critics. and even after your insults, and personal attacks on me i’m still gonna respectfully wish you luck. and you will need a lot of good luck to make it. (that’s not an insult, thats just the record business). but if you don’t learn respect amd humility you ain’t got no chance.
now to your beef with me. you said you “couldn’t care less about me”. yeah, right! if that was true you wouldn’t have attacked me personally for no reason like some internet gangster. now i’m not any better than you or anyone else (in fact the only 5 things i know a lot about are music, how to love my family, how to treat a woman, sports and writing. other than that i don’t know much.fortunately i have common sense to get me through every thing else)but i’m way above attacking someone from behind a computer.and if you didn’t care about me you wouldn’t be so worried about who i am or so stressed about proving me as a hoax. you said you and your people are watching me and that you’re gonna find out who i am. i’m so scared. that will never happen. you can guess who i am, you can speculate who i am, you can think you know who i am, you can spread lies abut who i am, and you can berate me until your little hearts content. but you can’t find out who i am. if you and your friends want to waste your/their time, energy and life worrying about me and trying to expose me - go ahead. be my guest. and even if it was possible to find out who i am, would it accomplish anything?, would you get
a gold medal or cash prize or something? and if you did find out what would you do then? the only response to your threat ( and it was a threat) is be careful what you wish for. the situation you’re getting yourself into is like a man stranded on a desert island.one day the man thinks he sees a ship way out at sea. without thinking the man jumps into the water and starts swimming towards the object. from here two things can happen. either the man’s gonna quickly realize its impossible to get to the ship and swims back to shore before its too late.or the man’s gonna think he’s gonna somehow reach the object and keeps swimming towards the object he thinks is a ship. if the man chooses the second option he will eventually find himself so far out at sea there’s no way to make it back to shore. if he’s lucky he’ll just drown. if he’s unlucky the sharks may get him.
so in conclusion, mr. docb - i’m not gonna mention you or anybody else who doesn’t like me again, cause to me you don’t exist. you won’t find out who i am, you can’t stop me, you cant stop me from succeeding and you can never ever affect my life. and if you want to dis me, challenge me,attack me or threaten me a thousand times, go ahead, but i won’t respond again. i’ll just sit back like everyone else and laugh at you and feel sorry for you. cause your wasting your time on me(something you can’t control), instead of your life or your career (something you can control). the choice is yours. are you gonna worry about my life or your own? i hope for your sake you choose the second option. cause if you don’t your window of opportunity will have closed and you will find yourself as an angry oldman who wished he worried about the more important things in life, rather than something stupid like little old me. whatever you decide to do good luck and have a good life.
now that i got this off my chest for good i will get away from me and back to business. hopefully after this any attention on me can fall away from me and back to the music and this great board. peace.
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wow that's some good reading right there
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well i've been (as some people know coz i've msged them privately explaining why) deleting any posts asking about mr mellows identity, and you've mentioned my big eared coffee boy theory again up there. -> so it must be true *laughs*
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i dont know u n it dont really matter to me
lolz shit but it took me nearly an hour to read all dat
u could make it a book nig
lolz
welcome back anywayz
peace
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Im glad this is the last time ull pay attention 2 shit like that mayn......
now u can write summn that long about summn thyat actually MATTERS ;)
Like usual...and the only person that would say they dont want u on here are
the haters n the 1st place
MAXI PADZ: i must be a speed-reader or summn cuz that took me 5 minutes 2 read
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Nice Post Mellow... I Had 1 Comment For Ya
I Know You're Concerned About Coming Off Too Strong, Or Like A Bully, But Just Don't Let It Bother You... I Personally (And I Think Most People Agree) Don't Mind When you Get In Somebody's Ass A Little Bit About Some Bullshit. I Know You Don't Want To Give Detractors Much Credit, But If Somebody Pisses You Off, Feel Free To Single Them Out On The Board, You're Always Fair About It, So I Don't Mind You Disagreeing With People (N-Imy, Etc.)....
Peace!
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ok, im not trying to diss, and i know i'll prolly get dissed for this comment, but why did i just read that whole shit? i dont feel like i learned anything???
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mellow, its all good homie as some people mentiond we enjoy reading what you have to say, i could care less who you are as long as you keep bringin those posts, shit il be happy.
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your ego is writing cheques your music cant cash
ooooh!! :o :o
that line was made dope
i think ill use that in a rhyme..............
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i been watchin dis board for a long while just fo news and shit. just signed up cause not much into conversatin but since icant git in without signin up? sorry fo bringin dis topic up but igotta say somtin. i been doubtin dis mellowman dude for awhile and it dont matta 2 me who he is.but i looked at most ofhisposts and im convinced hes got somethin 2 do wit dre.i even went back tohis older posts.he knows too much and he's way 2 accurate wit his shit not to have some involvment.and he know way too much bout producin not to have sometin todo with the field.aint gonna start a beef but im glad he put docb in his place.he dised and threatened mel realhard fo no reason. and mel just put him in his place enough that id never come back here again if i was docb. anywayz thanx mel, who ever the fuc you are for yo knowldge, dre supprt and bad ass perspective,class and creative production ideas.
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I wouldn't be suprised if there was some involvement
wit mellow & tha Dre camp but fcuk it, atleast we
gettin' tha scoop ;D Keep hookin' us up wit this shit
Mellow :)
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i told ya - he's the big-eared coffee boy... he's serving that special mellow blend to the crew wherever they're at ;)
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regular or de caff?
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I'm not trying to guess his identity.... but does anyone remember Mellowman Ace?? He's Sen Dogg's Brother from Cuba.... His song "Mentirosa" used to be tha shit!.... LoL
"Check this out baby, Tenemos tremendo lillo/
Last night you didnt go, A la casa de tu tio/
Resulta ser, Hey you were at a Party/
Higher than the sky, emborachada de bacardi/
I bet you didnt know, que conosia al Cantinero/
He told me you were drinking, and waisting my dinero/
Talkin about "Come and enjoy what a woman gives a hombre/
But first of all, see, i have to know your nombre"/
Now I really wanna ask you, que si es verdad/
"Would I lie?" and please Por Favor, tell me la verdad/
Because I really need to know, yeah, necesito entender/
If you're gonna be a player, or be my mujer/
Cuz right now you're just a liar, a straight Mentirosa/
Today you tell me something y manana otra cosa/"
"Now That's Gangsta!" ;)
Anyone??
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Damn.... I'm seriously thinking about puttin that on my signature now.... LoL
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lol i just downloaded that song the other day
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Mellow Man Ace is the SHIT! "Mentirosa" was the original spanglish hip hop joint...that used to be my jam along with Kid Frost "La Raza" the sax on that song still kills me...ayo Frost should hire Fred Wreck as his producer since they did "Mamacita" together..that'll bring Frost back up!
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Yeah, I kinda knew you were gonna be one of the only people who have heard it...... or understood it.
Man, I was YOUNG when that song came out. I was probably like 4-6.... they used to play it on tha radio all tha time..... everyone used to bump it... even the parents.
I downloaded it from napster a couple months ago and it was the first time I had heard it in yearz...... it took me back.
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i was lookin for that song for a hella long time...so back in '95 i went to a record store and copped a LATIN HIP HOP compilation..."Mentirosa" was on there..."La Raza"...and "On A Sunday Afternoon" by Lighter Shade Of Brown! Yall Know Them? They Was Some Dope Shit...
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Im glad this is the last time ull pay attention 2 shit like that mayn......
now u can write summn that long about summn thyat actually MATTERS ;)
Like usual...and the only person that would say they dont want u on here are
the haters n the 1st place
MAXI PADZ: i must be a speed-reader or summn cuz that took me 5 minutes 2 read
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i neva said i was da smartest nig on da board did i?
lolz holla nig
peace
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"Chillinnn in tha park...... just waitiiin for tha sunn to come dowwwn...."
LoL.... yeah, Lighter Shade Of Brown used to be tha shit. They also had "Brown & Proud", "Homeboys" and "Latin Activity"... and I aint too sure but didnt they start that whole "Hey Dj wont you play that song... keep playin it all night long".. I know they sang it but did they start it? It's crazy if they did cuz that's shit has been sampled by so many people.
One of the guys from Lighter Shade Of Brown, ODM (One Dope Mexican) has his own radio show where I live..... in tha big INLAND EMPIRE 909 area... on KGGI 99.1.... they be playin some wack ass music though so I dont really listen to it.
Kid Frost was tight too....
What about N2Deep from the Bay Area I think.... remember their hit song "Back To The Hotel".... that's a straight west coast classic right there... from wayyyy back.
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Peace Mellowman
Haters don't exist.. :D
P.ce
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naw "Hey D.J." is an old skool hip hop song...i think L.A. Dream Team did that originally but LSOB was the first peeps i know that sampled that shit...then mariah to az was sampling that joint...
N2Deep was the shit...they had the same saxophone sample as Wreckz N Effect LOL! i remember seein them niggaz live at K-Rave back in '92/'93..a big ass party they held in Knotts Berry Farm that was the shit! N2Deep Got Booed Off Stage Though LOL! anyone else go to that shit? shit was bumpin!
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;D
heck yeah we're bustin' out with the mexican rap, my all time favorite latin jam or jams is tres deliquentes by delinquent habbits and mexican power by i think Frost i forgot it's been a long time since i heard either of them
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"Que onda muchacho ay bienes te miro/
Si me traes bronca, me aloco, te tiro/
te paro, te tumbo/
no es tu rumbo/
y con el lingo talves te confundo/"
It's a West Coast Forum right?.... well what's Californ-I-A without all tha Mexicans
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if y'all wanna hear some DOPE new Latin rappers just peep that link down there in my sig
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Mr. Shadow and Lil Rob are tight too.
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Mr Shadow & Lil Rob.... they're like the biggest chicano rappers out right now. I aint really into Lil Rob though..
If you like them you should probably try to check out these songs.... I think they're all tight...
MR. Shadow - Dancin' Smokin' Drinkin' ft/ Kurupt.
MR Shadow - She's A Hoe
MR Shadow - 61909
LiL Blacky - D's G's
LiL Blacky - Real Gangsters
Conejo - I Put It Down
Conejo - Back The Fuck Down
LiL One - Suicide Homicide
LiL One - The Devil Did
Clicka One - Mexican Mobsters (Tight Ass Song)
BROWNSIDE - Look Through My Eyez
KnightOwl - Keep Bangin (I Aint The One beat)
Mr Loc: I been plannin to check out the audio on your website..... I can't download anything right now though, my pc is running low on disc space or somethin'.... I'll definately peep it later though... I've been wanting to see what they got for a while....
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Hey Criminal, ODM would be better if 99.1 got better. But Lighter Shade of Brown use to be my favorite group before Dre dropped the "G" Thang. Anyways, remember Delinginte Habits, and JV and Slow Pain and all them mid 90 latin rappers that almost made it.
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"Que onda muchacho ay bienes te miro/
Si me traes bronca, me aloco, te tiro/
te paro, te tumbo/
no es tu rumbo/
y con el lingo talves te confundo/"
It's a West Coast Forum right?.... well what's Californ-I-A without all tha Mexicans
That's Deliquent Habits right there... from their song "Tres Deliquentes"... Big Jake mentioned them earlier.
That's what I meant, about the ODM show..... not that his show sucked.... 99.1 sucks.
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Oh shit, I was just skimming through the messages. Anyways, catch ya'all later