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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: So Much Style on July 11, 2001, 10:05:30 AM
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Yo mellow man,
you seem to have knowledge about the Chronic 2001 leftovers, and waht not, and i have heard all these rumors that songs were recorded such as :
doggz IV life featuring snoop rbx and kurupt
malibu dre
off da chains featuring devin
writings on the wall feeaturing punch and words
hittin hard featuring hittman
muthafuckin d.r.e.
are these to any truth?
and also, how many songs did RBX record for chronic 2001? how about daz did he do any (i doubt it), soopafly? and how much involement did mell man have in production?
thanks
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I Remember Dre And Snoop Talking About Song Titles In A Interview, And They Were Sayin That Most Of The Time They Come Up With The Song Title Even Before They Write The Song.. Getting To That Point How Many Of Those "Leftovers" Do You Guys Actually Think Exist?? I'm Sure Some Of Them Even Had A Name Change.. I Personally Don't Think Any Of Those Tracks Exist, Untill Maybe A Few Of Them Leak Or Dre Himself Says They Are Legit...
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we probably won't c them if they r real n e way cos dre has been givin the beats away thats how he fits in soooo many collaborations.....thats right isn't it mellow man?
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i dont know if u guys are deaf or what.. but he said he aint gonna be able to get back here for a week...
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oh well i dontalways catch everything his posts are long as shit suually but in a good way..but i think dre did like 93 tracks...
i usually come up with a title before i do a song too
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I heard a while back when Dre did an interview on
MTV, jus' before he released 2001, he said that he
recorded about a 150 trks. So i'd like 2 know what
tha fcuk happened 2 tha otha 100 odd trks ???
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when i'm thinking about songs i either have
a) a concept/theme - maybe with title
b) just a beat (need quick access to shit then)
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c) they were'nt that good and were shelved.
Some tracks aint released for a good reason, quality control.
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didnt Dre say that he chose the futuristic sounding ones.. so theres equal quality there.. but some didnt fit the vision for 2001.
if u make music everyday u cant bang out the same shit.. you'd make faster/slower stuff or just do summat plain out there for fun sometimes.. otherwise it wouldnt be fun
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I know but you only got 74mins to work with.
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I hope Mellow gets bacc to answer this....also a CD can fit 80 mins, he coulda' added 3 more tracks...
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eastisdaz new cd=81:40
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it took the industry that long to figure that trick out
btw there are 90min CD-Rs out there now probably take a while to get into circulation tho
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I couldn't burn the whole dueces n trayz to my 80 min cd-r so i dropped the mac minista skit and it fit
;D
but dont worry... i will BUY THAT... I ALWAYS DO... I JUST CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-bpg
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i knocked off the intro, mac minista, and song 17, cause i felt it was wack
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90min? where can I get a hold of these?
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90min? where can I get a hold of these?
they make 99 min cdrs too....though only certain burners can burn to them....ya can get more ifo bou it here..........http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_cd-r99.shtml
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YAMAHA CD BURNERS DO THEM....LIKE COPYING DREAMCAST GAMES
peace
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They should just sell like ONLY sell stereos that can play mp3, and then they could put out an album with like 200 trax right ;D
pce
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THEY CUD RELEASE 100+ TRACK ALBUMS ON MP3!!
peace
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i got a mp3 cd player and i got snoop doggs last meal,cnn tha reunion,big puns capital punishment,dj clue prof. part 2 and nelly(i know sum of yall hate but fuck u) country grammar on one cd....its tite especially for airplane rides....just cary one cd instead of 10
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i'll post an answer to this question soon.thanks for your patience.peace.
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and,from what u know......what about the last meal's leftover?
thanks mellow
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up
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sorry y'all for takin so long answering this question.
as far as "2001" leftovers go, there are over 70 of them. so much style - the answers to your questions are this. the tracks you listed probably all existed. doggz for life was a great track but it will be tweaked and it should show up somewhere. malibu dre was a real track as well. the rest i don't know. they may have been those titles at some point. devin the dude did a few songs so that one you mentioned probably was done. punchs and words were part of early recording sessions. hittman did a ton of tracks so i can't answer you on hittin hard. "muthafucka i'm dre" became "hello". rbx did a handful of tracks. so did sticky fingaz. in fact "remember me" was a leftover used on the mmlp. and bitch please, buck em and just dippin were done during the "2001" recording sessions. dre just decided to let snoop use them on his album. dre basically used No Limit Top Dogg for a "2001" preview. i don't think daz ever entered the recording studios and soopafly wasn't around much either. and mel-man was coproducer on the album all the way through. he was like dre's scotty pippen. he made great contributions but wasn't "the man". i remember back on the 2001 board a few people claimed to have the leftovers and were gonna sell them. i knew it was a lie. unless someone wanted 100 lawyers and dre on their ass they wouldn't have dared sell em even if they had them. but i'm sure they probably didn't have them. there were over 90 total songs and a lot of other beats that never had lyrics added to them. so as you can see its hard to keep track of every track. dre usually makes 3 to 4 times more songs than the number of ones that make an album. most producers work hard on a couple of good tracks then throw enough shit to put out an album. but not dre. he makes a huge batch of tracks and then picks the best. most of the time he picks the right ones. once in a while a great track may not get picked when maybe they should have but that hardly ever happens. sometimes songs don't get used cause they don't fit. during the recording sessions hittman and xzibit had some tracks that contained harder lyrics, language and violence than most of the other songs. some tracks just feel out of place and some just plain aren't very good. like bodyrott said dre is real big on quality control. all great prodcuers don't make great tracks every single time. but when they make a shitty track they make sure those tracks NEVER come close to getting on a record.
as far as dre using leftover tracks on collabs. yes, it does happen. most of the time its new tracks, but not always. "nasty mind" was remixed from an old "2001" track. chin check was a "2001" leftover. no doubt is working with a "2001" leftover. but even if dre is using an old track when he is working with an artist its always done just like a new one. an unused beat dre likes will be pulled up and will be updated and reshaped with the artist dre is working with. vocals will be added and tweaked til everyone is happy. so dre collabs always are put together with both dre and the artists working in the studio together. but most of dre collab tracks are fresh tracks.
and just to let you know dre and his musicans do a lot of beats with no artists in the studio. dre has many instrumentals that he can choose from when doing collabs and albums. so there is a difference between "2001" leftovers and tracks that were put together without artists in the studio. dre pulls it up and works with his artists and together they perfect the vocals and make changes. and then dre takes the unmixed tracks and mixes them. i probably confused you but dre uses a lot of different methods in recording.
dre always makes sure the artists outside Aftermath that he collabs with get great tracks to work with. but he will save most of the great beats for himself and aftermath releases. and most of the beats your hearing on his recent collabs aren't a big stretch from "2001". for the most part dre won't reveal his reinventions until he releases aftermath albums. it ruins the surprise if you give up your innovations too early.
so in the end there were over 90 tracks with vocals that were completed during the "2001" sessions. in the end you'll have heard about 30 of them in some form or another. the rest you'll never hear unless you steal dre's master recordings. in other words you'll never hear the remaining 60 leftovers. peace.
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Or unless Dre dies....
Anyways...I coulda' sworn that "Nasty Mind" sounded like it was supposed to be on "2001"...I'm guessing "let me Blow Ya Mind" is also taken from the "2001" recording session...
Thanks for the new Mellow, you da man...Peace
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yo mel man, that was tight info...but you should tell dre to release those extras with RBX, kurupt, eminem, xzibit, geeez all of them, like a give away, to a contest gets 20 ureleased songs or somethin, we are fienden for them!
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blow your mind was NOT a leftover. it came from dre, mike and scott coming up with a dope beat for use on a track like Blow ya Mind
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sorry so much style, but that won't happen. some songs just aren't destined to be heard by the public. thats just the way it is. sorry to disappoint you. dre knows its time to start moving away from the "2001" style. thats been almost 2 years now and reinvention and new innovations must occur to stay a step ahead of everyone else. dre never goes backwards and for that reason some songs are sacrificed. thats the best answer i can give you. peace.
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in other words ya'll we are going to have to plan a heist.....to get those damn 60 tracks!!!!!!!
lol....so we take the chance..of a good ass kickin.....fucked up limbs..........bullet holes...but we could get those tracks!!!!!!!!!!
whos with me??????
................yaaawwwnn...............scratch scratch.....
damn..was i dreamin again...........my bad ya'll
had this crazy thought that i could actually get dre's unreleased tracks.......I need to stay away from that Purple Haze....... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Peace Hambone
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and another thing M'man......
if i am listen to a Aftermath release..and i heare...whats up to the WestCoast Affiliatez Board..i will shit my pants.....lol..........
Peace...Hambone....
I know it wont happen..but i can wish.....and hope.....
thanks for the post partna.....
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MELLOW
NEXT TIME UR HAVIN A CHAT 2 DRE....U KNOW AS WE ALL DREAM OF DOIN!......
TAKE HIM 2 A COMPUTER AND LET HIM C THIS FORUM AND THE SITES AFFILIATED WHO CARE ABOUT HIS SHIT!
AND TRY AND GET HIM 2 SIGN UP!
;D
WOT DYA RECKON?
POSSIBLE?
peace
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:)
my name better come up a good deal of times, i don't know how many times i've defended dre here and on other boards..lol, anyways, thanks for the info mellow, peace
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Well, some guy i know over the net says his cousin is an engineer at Aftermath & he can get me heaps of leftovers including the
RESTLESS LP by Xzibit , thy Kingdom Cum by King T & heaps of other shit
We made a deal, I've sent 3 rap videos & 2 cds over to his home country Samalia & he said that i should recieve them soon.
I hope so, but the guy is taking along time with it.
SOUND FAMILAR :) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAH
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Thanx mellowman for da info, You know lots bout Dre and his crew. :o
Peace
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Well, some guy i know over the net says his cousin is an engineer at Aftermath & he can get me heaps of leftovers including the RESTLESS LP by Xzibit , thy Kingdom Cum by King T & heaps of other shit
We made a deal, I've sent 3 rap videos & 2 cds over to his home country Samalia & he said that i should recieve them soon.
I hope so, but the guy is taking along time with it.
SOUND FAMILAR :) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAH
what the fuck is your problem? go fuck a kangaroo or go play with some magic cards fucking faggot
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i found it funny.......
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blow your mind was NOT a leftover. it came from dre, mike and scott coming up with a dope beat for use on a track like Blow ya Mind
Word.....that beat is hella nice ;D It does sound
alot like a 2001 beat though.
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lol
engies and narrator still going at it