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Title: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legendary
Post by: infinite59 on July 16, 2001, 04:18:16 PM
                         2pac the Prophet

Prophet: One who predicts the future

Why 2pac is himself the hip-hop prophet:  He predicted his rise to fame.  He predicted his people would turn on him.  As they did when he was shot five times.  He predicted that he would rise again, and defy his enemies, as he did to the top of the hip-hop community in 96, and he died on top.  A death that he predicted long before it came to be.  

I am in the early stages of a project I believe will be legendary.  I am putting together a book, formatted in the same way as are the Bible and the Holy Qu'ran. In the words of the prophet 2pac Amura Shakur.

The prophet 2pac spoke of his significance in saying:   "The Bible tells us that all these people did this because they suffered so much, that's what makes them special people.  I got shot five times, and I got crucified by the media.  And I walked through with the thorns on, and I had shit thrown o me, and I had the word thief at the top: I told that nigga (my enemies) "I'll be back for you.  It's not supposed to be going down this way.  I'll be back"  I'm not saying I'm Jesus, but I'm saying we gothrough that type of thing every day.  We (I) don't part the Red Sea, but we walk through the hood wihout getting sot. We (I) don't turn water into wine but I turn dope heads into productive citizens of society.  We turn words into money- What greater gift can their be."

Fellow hip-hop heads please listen when I tell you that we have a prophet.  Much like ancient Arabs had Muhammad, much like ancient Jews in Jeruselem had Jesus Christ, much like people before that time had Moses, much like the Nation of Islam has Alijah Muhammad, and thousands of other societies since the beggining of man, have had their prophets.  They are spiritual leaders who predicted the future and were divinely inspired. That is the definition of a prophet.  And I believe as do many more around the world that 2pac is the modern day hip-hop prophet.  I believe as does 2pac's close friend Treach of Naughty By Natur that we are a part of "the hip-hop community" and we too have a prophet.  2pac Amura Shakur.

If you are interested or want to be a part of this project please e-mail me. This is a non-profit cause.


Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 16, 2001, 04:26:55 PM
I don't believe 2pac  was a prophet but hey, Do Your Thing.
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: infinite59 on July 16, 2001, 04:29:33 PM
There will be believers and non-believers, as their are in anything else.
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Big FC on July 16, 2001, 04:51:11 PM
okay.. strangely i can't decided how serious infinite and its really scaring me..
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: infinite59 on July 16, 2001, 05:28:37 PM
Some of you may want to buy this book when I'm finished.  I'm going to have a website devoted to these theories, and sell the book over the website. You'll be able to read portions of the book online. All the procedes will either go back into the cause, or a similar 2pac cause.
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Trauma-san on July 16, 2001, 05:40:03 PM
Infinite,I Aplaud Your Cause, But Please TAke A Word Of Advice From Me.  Just Think About It, O.K.?

My Advice Would Be That This Is A GREAT Book, Full Of Opportunity To Educate People, Improve People's Lives, And Also To Profit Off Of, If You Ever Wanted To....

But, My Word Of Caution Would Be To Watch How You Word And Approach It.  There Are 2 Ways To Do This, 1 Would Be To Make It A Religious Look At The Man's Life; The Other Would Make It A Religious Book.  There's A Difference; You Can Say That Tupac Was A Prophet, And That Possibly He Was Inspired By God.  The Other Way Would Be To Say That Tupac Wasn't An Ordinary Man, And Invented Ideas, Has Followers, Etc.

My Caution Is That You Should Make It A Book Of How Tupac Is A Messenger (Prophet) Of God, NOT A Godlike Individual.

Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: d_bomb_23 on July 16, 2001, 06:07:57 PM
um yeah put me down dogg........



Faggit
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 16, 2001, 06:20:36 PM
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My Caution Is That You Should Make It A Book Of How Tupac Is A Messenger (Prophet) Of God, NOT A Godlike Individual.


Most definitely. If your making a book on how Pac was religious and shit then I would be very interested. I thought you were making a book on how 2pac was like God. My bad.
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Trauma-san on July 16, 2001, 06:24:25 PM
Well, I See What He's SAying.  He's NOt Only Saying Tupac Was Religious, He's Saying That Tupac Was A Religious Leader, Who Was Perhaps Inspired By God, And Saw Things More Clearly Then Most, Which Is How I Define Prophet.

I Would Not Agree That tupac Was Favored By God, Or Had Gifts Others Didn't,Though.
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 16, 2001, 06:45:54 PM
Dawg, I'm having second thoughts about this...I know I'm your homie, and I know Pac was real gifted and smarter than the average man, but I dont think I should be doing this, I'm Jewish...Your my homie dawg...But i don't really know...Sorry dawg...Good luck with your prophet thing...Peace homie
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Don Jacob on July 16, 2001, 07:02:25 PM
man this is sooooooo wrong if your trying to make a religion out of this. becuase as much as i love pac and trust me i love him alot but but pac is the last man to make a religious icon out of and put him up there with jesus...that is soooooo not a good thing


if your making a book of how pac was sent by god than that's cool more power to you but if your trying to make an accult out this i will do some MAJOR praying for you

that would offend me as a pac fan
that would make me sarrowful for you as a religious person


Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: techniec on July 16, 2001, 07:08:25 PM
youre comparing tupac to muhamad (peace be upon him), jesus, and moses??

youre a fuckin retard who needs a life
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: DJ Stew on July 16, 2001, 07:34:27 PM
i'll help ya however i can
drop a line
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on July 16, 2001, 08:18:27 PM
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                         2pac the Prophet

Prophet: One who predicts the future

Why 2pac is himself the hip-hop prophet:  He predicted his rise to fame.  He predicted his people would turn on him.  As they did when he was shot five times.  He predicted that he would rise again, and defy his enemies, as he did to the top of the hip-hop community in 96, and he died on top.  A death that he predicted long before it came to be.  



  Yeah dawg..... you're trippin.
 
  All the shit you listed that 2pac predicted.... he predicted in his own life. All that shit happened to HIM.... NOT to Hip Hop, NOT to the world, NOT to religion.... how can you call him a prophet?

  I can say..... "Tomorrow I'm gonna go to subway and order a meatball sub..... but they'll be out of meatballs"... and then tomorrow I will go to subway and they WILL be out of meatballs..... doesn't make me a prophet though.

 I KNOW that's a stupid ass example but still.... it gets my point across.

 I dont think you're whold 2pacalism idea is gonna work
 
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Don Jacob on July 16, 2001, 08:54:21 PM
i know pac was the best rapper but i wouldn't call hima prophet i mean if your gonna call pac a prophet what would that make Miss Cleo?
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Siberian_Wolf on July 16, 2001, 09:11:45 PM
Shit, you can't make a religious book with plenty cusses on each page. And prophets don't fuck around on the streets and don't fuck bitches like apes every fuckin night. Prophets don't get high, don't show their middle fingers to the camera and don't bullshit about fucking some other man's wife. Prophets don't have tattoos on their stomachs and don't call the biggest world musicians 'fags'. You're mistaking, man, just like one of my homies who thinks that Pac is still alive. Don't continue that Elvis Presley thing, get a life.
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: infinite59 on July 17, 2001, 12:42:24 AM
I figured this would be a controversial issue.  So let me first be clear on a few things.  

A prophet is as much a human being as you or I.  I never intended to try to make 2pac into a god.  I believe 2pac to be a prophet.  Which by definition means to predict the future.  It can also mean to be devinely inspired.  He often mentioned how he felt god was leading him on his path, etc.  And I will point that out in the book.  And I believe that he was also a spiritual leader.  Alot of people looked up to 2pac.

This book will be very hip-hop oriented and it will be 2pac the hip-hop prophet, (without giving up to many of my ideas to those not involved in the project) expect this book to be very centered around hip-hop, and his followers hip-hop heads, and his disciples and enemies,  fellow rappers, friends, media, and others both from inside and outside the rap industry. 





Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: RapAce on July 17, 2001, 04:12:06 AM

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Well, I See What He's SAying.  He's NOt Only Saying Tupac Was Religious, He's Saying That Tupac Was A Religious Leader, Who Was Perhaps Inspired By God, And Saw Things More Clearly Then Most, Which Is How I Define Prophet.

I Would Not Agree That tupac Was Favored By God, Or Had Gifts Others Didn't,Though.


I agree with Trauma, coz like Tupac wasn't a prophet , but he was definetly a LEADER fo sho.
And he was inspired by religion. yeah.

2PAC 4LIFE

Peace
Title: BACK TO EARTH
Post by: SABLIMINAL on July 17, 2001, 07:52:03 AM
WHOA.....
I SAW LOOK ALIKEZ OF DIS TOPICZ ON SOME PAC SITEZ" FORUMZ....
NEVER EXPECTED IT WOULD GET HERE.....ANYWAY....
I DONT THINK THIS IZ A GOOD IDEA....
IT SOUNDZ LIKE A PIECE OF THOSE ALIVE THEORIEZ
....AND ITZ TAKIN THIZ WHOLE PAC MEMORY THING INTO A WHOLE OTHER ....PRETTY SICK DIRECTION.....WHAT I MEAN IZ DAT.....ITZ PROBABLY WHAT AMARU RECORDZ WOULD LIKE TO HAPPEND.....AFENI ALWAYZ PRESENTZ HER DEAD SON AS SOME KIND OF SPIRITUAL GURU....AND TO SOME OF THOSE WHO HAVE THIS KIND OF IDEAZ IT WOULD PROBABLY BECOME A PRETTY STRONG MOTIV TO BY ALL THEZE PAC BOOKZ DAT COME OUT DIZ DAYZ.....AND MAKE"EM READ WITH SOME FUCKIN BIG ATTENTION ALL THOSE THANK U"Z DAT AFENI WRITEZ ON DA POST HUMOUS ALBUMZ.....FO EXAMPLE UTEOT,REMEMBER ME......AND
SHE ALSO SAID ON SOME INTERVIEW SOME DAT SHE BELIVEZ DAT WHEN PAC WAZ BORN...GOT GAVE HIM ALSO HIZ DEATH DATE .....ITZ NOT A CLEAR CLUE BUT IT STILL IZ ONE...SAYIN DAT PAC WAZ SENT HERE ...JUST LIKE
ALL THE PROPHETZ USED TO BE PRESENTED....
AS YALL PROBABLY KNOW ALREADY....I DON CARE ABOUT THE TOPICZ OF THE TRACKZ.....BUT ONLY FO THE WAY THE RAPPA TELLZ THE THING HE TELLZ...(LYRICAL STRUCTURE)......MEANIN DAT I DON CARE WHAT IZ DA TOPICZ MORAL BASE.....OR SOME OTHER SHIT...I ONLY CARE FO HOW SKILLFULY CAN THE RAPPA GET ME (THE LISTINER) INTO THE TOPIC...(WHATEVER IT MAY BE).....AND YOU ALL KNOW DAT IM ONE OF DA BIGGEST PAC FANZ...
BUT DIZ DOESNT MAKE ME CARE BOUT DA TOPICZ....
(ALTHOUGH MAY BE PACZ TOPICZ CLOSENEZ TO REALITY HELPZ HIM PUT THE LISTENER INTO THE IDEA OF A TRACK).....BUT I THINK THERE IZ MO DAN DIZ...CAUZE WE ALL KNOW PAC IZ A GREAT LYRISIST AND GOT GREAT VOCAL SKILLZ....
ANY WAY....
THOSE FROUMZ WHERE I"VE BEEN TO....WERE CRAZY....PIPZ WAZ MAKIN THEORIEZ BOUT WHAT IZ KILLUMINATI.....AND DAT PAC ECTUALY WAZ FIGHTIN WIT DIS SICRET GROUP OF PEOPLE DAT IZ PLOTIN TO TAKE OVA THE WORLD....
AND ALL THE PIPZ WAZ LIKE TALKIN DIS MUSLIM
STUF...CALLIN EACH OTHER BROTHA....OR MY MUSSLIM BROTHAZ....CRAZY SHIT....
ITZ EVEN CAME TO PIPZ DAT WAZ SAYIN DAT JEWZ IZ DA ILLUMINATI...AND DAT PAC WAZ MEANIN BY KILLUMINATI-KILL THE ILLUMINATI.....
IT ECAME REALY NAZI AFTER A WHILE...SO I WOULD SUGEST WE WOULDNT GO THERE...
AND EVEN ME THAT IZ KNOWN TO MY DOGGZ AS SOMEONE PRETTY SPIRITUAL....ASKIN YOU TO GET BACK TO EARTH....CAUZE DIS IZ JUST DEATH ROMANTIFICATION OF A FALLEN AND GREAT (THE GREATEST) RAPPA...AND NOTHIN MO DAN DIS.

Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Bizzy_Bone on July 18, 2001, 05:13:54 PM
If you're gonna do it spell his name properly.It's Tupac AMARU Shakur!
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 18, 2001, 05:17:35 PM
Yo, I hope u forgive me dawg...
Title: Re: 2pac the Prophet..Be a part of something legen
Post by: westcoastin on July 18, 2001, 05:58:31 PM
i dont think tupac was a prophet at all, dont get me wrong, tupac is tight as hell and he predicted the obvious, but a prophet doesnt sell drugs, fuck bitches,kill people and scheme people. 2pac is down and he is the best RAPPER of all time, not the best person.  But if thats how u see it then thats cool homie do your thing.