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Title: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: Meho on October 09, 2007, 09:03:50 AM
Wierd pick, even I think Graduation is way better.

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Tuesday, October 09, 2007

By KRS-ONE

At the 2007 Hip Hop Honors I was asked by AllHipHop.com about my musical
preferences this year—50 Cent or Kanye West? I chose 50 Cent. At the time my answer was spontaneous and said without much thought. It was simply a quick honest answer. However, the next day I get a Google alert that somehow my comments "dissed Kanye West". This could not be further from the truth. As I've said repeatedly and on many occasions, "rap is something we do; Hip Hop is something we live", and when you ask KRS about his musical choices his answers are going to reflect the life that he (KRS)actually lives. If I have to compare 50 Cent's album "Curtis" with Kanye West's album "Graduation" I am more motivated by "Curtis" than I am "Graduation". Of course, I
totally respect "Graduation" and what it means to and for Hip Hop. But personally, I relate more to 50 Cent's subject matter more than I do Kanye's.
I like both albums. I personally went to Circuit City and bought two copies of each album the day they came out and listened to them both. After listening to both albums I found myself rewinding several of 50 Cent's tracks—track 2, track 3, track 4, the rhyme style on track 5, track 12, the joint with Mary-track 15, track 16 and track 17. For me, ALL THAT SHIT WUZ HOT! On the other hand, when I listened to Kanye's album I found myself rewinding only track 1, track 6, and track 10. Honestly, I felt that Kanye's album related more to women whereas 50's album related more to men, maybe that's why I gravitated more toward 50's album? Maybe I'm just too "old skool?" Maybe I'm just a New York nigga at heart? Maybe I'm still stuck on that "gun talk?" Whatever. In any event, I totally respect Kanye's message and his album was clearly a breath of fresh air for Hip Hop. Even Kanye's musical production style was superior to 50's in my opinion. But for motivation, hard beats and rhymes, or when I'm driving through the "hood" for me 50 Cents album "Curtis" simply delivered more "bang" for the buck.

When I stated that I preferred 50's album over Kanye's album the Allhiphop.com interviewer seemed shocked and surprised. This caused me to think about my response a little more. Why did I choose 50 Cent? I began to think about this with more depth. First, when it comes to Hip Hop and its cultural preservation we must never equate record sales with artistic excellence.Just because Kanye out-sold 50 Cent does not mean that Hip Hop as a community has made a choice as to its cultural direction. In fact, I would argue that Kanye out-selling 50 Cent has more to do with the record buying public's demand for more soulful, thoughtful and innovative music than it has to do with Hip Hop making a statement about itself. Hip Hop is about the mood of the streets; all of it, the so-called "conscious" streets as well as the so-called"gangsta" streets. True Hip Hop (cultural Hip Hop) is not about the selling of a CD. So one must ask, did Hip Hop buy Kanye's album or did the American public buy Kanye's album?

Secondly, let us not equate the "conscious" Hip Hop movement with CD sales. Remember, we are still getting ripped-off contractually by those corporations that exploit and sell our music with nothing going back toward Hip Hop's actual preservation. Just because you put out a "conscious" album does not mean that you are a "conscious" person. Your album presentation does not make you an "activist" or a "gangsta". It is your actions in real life that determine your propensity for revolutionary thought or rebellious activity. The questions are; what have you done with your success to support and preserve Hip Hop's actual cultural preservation? How does Hip Hop's existing organizations benefit from your success? If 50 Cent actually builds Hip Hop's museum/archive with the money and influence made from his "gangsta" music and Kanye (as an example) buys more Gucci and gold chains with his money and influence who has really served the
culture? Please, let us keep things in perspective here.

Finally, let me make this last point very clear. KRS ONE is an artist that has produced both "Criminal Minded" as well as "Edutainment" and this is what I have found to not only be the key to my own professional longevity, this is also what has kept Hip Hop itself vibrant and self-sustaining for over 30 years. Hip Hop thrives upon its variety of styles and diversity of ideas. Remember, Hip Hop is a continuous international urban conversation; it is not a dictated lecture or a one-sided statement. It is an on-going urban discussion about life and living expressed through art and culture. EVERYTHING ABOUT HIP HOP IS GOOD! Our music and art reflects life itself.

When I hear artists like 50 Cent, Fat Joe, Camron, Jadakiss, Snoop Dogg, etc I hear courage, fearlessness and victory over the streets. And when I hear Kanye West, Common, Talib Kweli, etc I hear vision, innovation, and the pursuit of life's higher ideals. ALL OF THIS IS HIP HOP! And all of it is good. ALL OF IT! Not one style over another or one style better than another. All of it together is Hip Hop, and you will not have true Hip Hop without this balance of ideas and expressions. Hip Hop cannot be one thing or it will cease to exist as Hip Hop. The key word here is BALANCE, and I am proud to say that in 2007 with the release of 50 Cent's "Curtis" and Kanye West's "Graduation" Hip Hop has achieved such a balance. The struggle now is to convince mainstream media to honor such a "balance" in its public presentations of our culture and lifestyle. Yes, I remain Hip Hop's "teacha" and authentic cultural voice; and yes, I will continue to promote both spiritual and political thought through Hip Hop. Like most people I too seek the "Good Life", but let's just keep it really real; "NIGGA MY GUN GO OFF!"

Big respect to both Kanye and Curtis!

KRS ONE—the Teacha

Source : Allhiphop.Com
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 09, 2007, 09:20:09 AM
sometimes i wonder aboout krs one
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: CRAFTY on October 09, 2007, 11:12:17 AM
I understand KRS's point-of-view on things, but I can not understand why he manages to listen to artist who still talks about guns after he has already sold millions of album (let alone the income he gets from his G Unit merchandise).
At least KRS can come up with some arguments to back up his statements. That's more than most rappers can do in a lot of interviews...
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: WC Iz Active on October 09, 2007, 11:17:05 AM
sometimes i wonder aboout krs one
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: Styles1 on October 09, 2007, 11:36:26 AM
agree or disagree, you gotta appreciate his honesty... he could have (like a lot of artists) given us the answer that we all wanted to hear, but instead he spoke on what he felt. 
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: jeromechickenbone on October 09, 2007, 07:45:03 PM
I think KRS says shit like this as a way to not come off like a hater.  Even though he's on some knowledge tip, he doesn't wanna come off like some square who doesn't like gangsta rap.  The problem is that KRS is prolly a bit out of touch, because 50's music isn't gangsta, it's fuckin corny.  That, and 50 can break off KRS a couple mill in a heart beat, Kanye can't.  Sad but true.

Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: SP0RTY on October 09, 2007, 08:07:45 PM
agree or disagree, you gotta appreciate his honesty... he could have (like a lot of artists) given us the answer that we all wanted to hear, but instead he spoke on what he felt. 
true he keeps it real
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: R1ZE on October 09, 2007, 08:22:57 PM
I understand KRS's point-of-view on things, but I can not understand why he manages to listen to artist who still talks about guns after he has already sold millions of album (let alone the income he gets from his G Unit merchandise).
At least KRS can come up with some arguments to back up his statements. That's more than most rappers can do in a lot of interviews...

I don't understand this line of thinking at all. Does an artist have to be doing the shit he raps about for you to respect him? Is a gangster really something to respect? I give rappers that can rap their dues, and thats it.  I couldn't give a fuck if they live what they rhyme about.
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: Styles1 on October 09, 2007, 08:33:35 PM
The only that I find "fucked up" about all of this is that someone went out and said that he dissed Kanye just because he preferred 50's album.
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: SP0RTY on October 09, 2007, 11:15:03 PM
The only that I find "fucked up" about all of this is that someone went out and said that he dissed Kanye just because he preferred 50's album.
yea, anything you say can be twisted to make you look like a bad guy in today's world
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: ::Mr. Hahn:: on October 09, 2007, 11:45:56 PM
Respect the man! Hes a true legend.
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: Lucifuge on October 10, 2007, 12:01:06 AM
how meny rapprs are gangsta 4 real? no one they just sell records;)
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: NiCc_FrUm_ThA_nO on October 10, 2007, 11:14:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/TxPm0TZcqHU
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: AnybodyKilla on October 10, 2007, 11:29:15 PM
Its cause KRS was sucking 50's dick on rapcity!!!
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: Dre-Day on October 11, 2007, 02:06:26 AM
if 50 cent wasn't from queens, KRS-One may have said something different. i mean he dissed nelly, so why would he like 50 cent's albums? sure, krs may like the more "gangsta' tracks of 50 cent's albums, but i can't imagine that he likes the high amount of pop songs on 50 cent's albums and call it real hiphop.
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: drakeshakenbake on October 11, 2007, 03:48:45 AM
wait.. isnt ayo technology on Curtis?  ??? Can't imagine KRS digging that.. There's a norwegian hiphop mag that put out " KRS DOES NOT THINK KANYE IS HIP HOP " on their site yesterday, because of the interview.
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: wcsoldier on October 11, 2007, 04:26:58 AM
At least he brought arguments on the table but some were NON -SENSE : the one with who bought Kanye album : is it "Hip Hop" public or the American public ? he DID implied that 50 album was bought by the hip hop public LOL ... even with the album for men or wowen thing ... I'm 100% sure there are more girls who copped the 50 album than Kanye one ... and if Amusement Park, Ayo , Fire are songs made for men , I'm lost 4 words
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: You Ain't Shit on October 11, 2007, 04:37:42 AM
sometimes i wonder aboout krs one

he is very inconsistent.
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: 7even on October 11, 2007, 05:10:58 AM
Lol@niggas being shook because of this. Would anybody call Kanye a better rapper than 50? If so, that nigga's nuts. Hiphop was also always more rhythm orientated than melody orientated. So there goes Kanye's better production right out the window. And lol@any nigga who prefers Kanye because his lyrics and his style have a more sophisticated vibe to it: First of all, 50 ain't aiming at such a vibe, he's got a different style, a different sub-genre so to say. Second of all, Kanye is more of the cocky pseudo-conscious type than anything else. Third of all, if you want to hear/see/experience something intelligent; then go to university/college, go read a real book, stuff like that. Don't go out and diss rap records or music in general because they don't challenge your brain or something. Cause firstly, it is kinda sad if Kanye's new record is challenging your brain. Secondly, a nigga needs time to chill. Just my 2 cents to yall elitist fags.
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 11, 2007, 08:44:02 AM
sometimes i wonder aboout krs one

he is very inconsistent.
Yeah thats exactly it. I remember talking to a friend of  mine and he was like Krs One is shot out, and I was like nah your tripping. Now I'm starting to see what he's saying
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: piankeyfan on October 11, 2007, 09:34:53 AM
Damn, they just asked the dude what album he likes and he gives a lecture. This reminds me of the ish Lupe Fiasco was talking about Tribe..."Just cause I'm positive dont mean I like positive artists." Negro, show some unity with the positive people so your next ish can come out and get respect.
Title: Re: KRS-One's Choice : 50 Cent or Kanye West ?
Post by: Michael on October 11, 2007, 09:39:58 AM
I understand KRS's point-of-view on things, but I can not understand why he manages to listen to artist who still talks about guns after he has already sold millions of album (let alone the income he gets from his G Unit merchandise).
At least KRS can come up with some arguments to back up his statements. That's more than most rappers can do in a lot of interviews...

I don't understand this line of thinking at all. Does an artist have to be doing the shit he raps about for you to respect him? Is a gangster really something to respect? I give rappers that can rap their dues, and thats it.  I couldn't give a fuck if they live what they rhyme about.
agree 100%...its like ppl have never heard of poetic license sumtimes