West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Big BpG on July 14, 2001, 06:42:06 PM
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I know the release is not for another two weeks, but after listening to this album, I really think it is one of the best albums since 2001. There are too many elements in this album that raise it above any other. First off the production is excellent. Some of these songs are perfected by Battlecat, Fred Wreck and
Hi-Tek. They all add a perfect combination that makes it feel like one full complete album. It doesn't give you that feeling that this album needs fillers, the production is absolutely perfect. The song Late Night, really makes you think you are riding around during the night. Next, the contents in the song are far and beyond most of the content you hear in rap nowadays. Songs like Friends, Late Night and I dont know just really get you thinking about what life is really about. This album may not hit every average hip hop listener, but it should. When you think about classic albums, you think about Illmatic, Doggystyle, Chronic, All Eyez On Me and others, but this album should be in there in my opinion. If it isn't considered a classic, it definetly should be considered one of the best albums from the West... this album is just far and beyond their premiere and most other albums given a hi-status grade.
-bpg
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from what i've heard.. i already considere it as a classic...like i say.. a modern classic
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this album is in no way a classic. Good album? it would have been if that George Clinton imposter wasn't all over it. Classic album? Hell fuckin no. Let me say this, since about 1997, there have been VERY FEW albums that were good, because rap has become so saturated by Puffy. These days, you have people like Nelly going 3/4 plat, that's how bad the rap game is. A classic album is an album that breaks new ground. Does this album break new ground? No. "The Chronic" was the birth of G-Funk. "All eyez on me" first double album by a solo artist. "Doggystyle" sold the most amount of records for a rap record at the time. "Killuminatti: The 7 Day Theory" first time a rapper has released 2 number one, platinum albums in the same year. Since 1998, there have been very few good albums released. The only westcoast albums that were good were Bad Azz's 1st album, Streetz iz a mutha, Chronic 2000, No Limit Top Dogg, Still I Rise, RAW, Dillinger and Young Gotti, Too Gangsta for Radio, Nonfiction, Dogg Pound 2002, and Rythm-al-ism. The new Eastsidaz album is no where near these albums. The first Eastsidaz was wack cuz of the production. There were about 4 songs that were listenable. This album the beats are a lot better, but the George Clinton wannabe spoils the album with his wack imitation of the REAL George Clinton. To say this album is a classic is ridiculous. If you compare it to the shit on the radio, yea, it's better. But to call it a classic is insulting.
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Chronic 2000, Too Gangsta for Radio, Dogg Pound 2002. The new Eastsidaz album is no where near these albums. The first Eastsidaz was wack cuz of the production. There were about 4 songs that were listenable. This album the beats are a lot better, but the George Clinton wannabe spoils the album with his wack imitation of the REAL George Clinton. To say this album is a classic is ridiculous. If you compare it to the shit on the radio, yea, it's better. But to call it a classic is insulting.
THIS IS BS......I CAN TELL U LIKE DR
CHRONIC 2000, TGFR, DPG2002 GUD??!?!
I HOPE UR TAKIN THA PISS....SAYIN THESE ALBUMS R BETTER THAN THA NEW EASTSIDAZ IS THE INSULT.....I SUGGEST U TAKE THE ALBUM RE-PLACE IT IN UR CD PLAYER, SIT BACK AND LISTEN AGAIN
TRUST ME U'LL CHANGE UR MIND
peace
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Word up to the real mutha west G`Z fuck DR.Let`s all roll on dubs on the new eastsidaz shit.Modern classic?Naw dogg,classic!!
Peace
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Bad Azz's 1st album, Streetz iz a mutha, Chronic 2000, No Limit Top Dogg, Still I Rise, RAW, Dillinger and Young Gotti, Too Gangsta for Radio, Nonfiction, Dogg Pound 2002, and Rythm-al-ism.
thats a wack ass list tg4r was wack as fuck , crooked i was good that s it.
still i rise... hmmm ... NO
DPG2002 NO
the current death row releases are wack ass fuck they sound like bootleggs .chronic 2000 was quality shit...but the new stuff is just in stores to fool old death row fans
tha eastsidaz is a dope album , not a classic though
my list this year is like this :
1.Kurupt
2.Eastsidaz & Soopafly
3.DPG & DOGG POUND 2002
8)
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Chronic 2000,Too Gangsta for Radio,Dogg Pound 2002
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huh huh
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA
I ain't heard it but a lot of people have go to realise that unless you lower your expectations then Chronic and Doggystyle will be the only two classics you'll ever hear
Safe
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its been 1 day and we hve people saying CLASSIC! hahahaahahhaahhahahaha
please wait a week to judge geeeez......oh yeah the best song is "everywhere i go" produced by swizz beats
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People weren't calling the Chronic and Doggystyle a classic after 1 day?
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ugh i like this shit, but it isnt half as good as the chronic or doggystyle are...oh yeah and not just 1 day, but 16 days before it comes out also...LOLZ
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I wasn't saying that this was as good as chronic and Doggystyle ... read the post
And don't give me no 16 days crap because internet bootlegging weren't around then
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im just saying sometimes you are all hyped up right away when you get a new cd, but then after a couple days you sink down to reality, like when i got "del the funky homosapien" i was pumped up like it was all dope now its just a ok album
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Yeah I feel you on that... you're right
I guess we'll only know if Duces and Trays is a classic if we're still banging it in 5,6,7 years time
Safe
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THIS IS BS......I CAN TELL U LIKE DR
CHRONIC 2000, TGFR, DPG2002 GUD??!?!
I HOPE UR TAKIN THA PISS....SAYIN THESE ALBUMS R BETTER THAN THA NEW EASTSIDAZ IS THE INSULT.....I SUGGEST U TAKE THE ALBUM RE-PLACE IT IN UR CD PLAYER, SIT BACK AND LISTEN AGAIN
TRUST ME U'LL CHANGE UR MIND
peace
I JUST WANTED 2 C IF I CUD QUOTE MYSELF SO THA FOOL MACK 11 DUZNT MISS IT!
;D
peace
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its been 1 day and we hve people saying CLASSIC! hahahaahahhaahhahahaha
please wait a week to judge geeeez......oh yeah the best song is "everywhere i go" produced by swizz beats
for real.. man this is some crazy shit... i know we gotta lotta eastsidaz/snoop fans but you cant classify this (or any) album classic on one or two listens...
folx calm the hell down coz this topic sounds like excitment talking
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Maybe you are all right :P but you get that feeling when you hear a good album.. take chronic 2001. I listend to it once and I knew it was going to be a classic... I KNEW IT WOULD BE! I got the same feeling on Dueces N Trayz.... anyway... I'll bring back this topic in 5 years.... peace yall! :)
-bpg
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dope album?...yes
classic?...no
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I JUST WANTED 2 C IF I CUD QUOTE MYSELF SO THA FOOL MACK 11 DUZNT MISS IT!
;D
peace
ok jackass, I saw what you had to say, and you need to get Snoop's dick out of your ass and pay attention. Did people say The Chronic was a classic after hearing it for the first time? No. It has taken several years for people to recognize the importance of that album, same with Doggystyle, All Eyez on Me, and Makaveli. This album will most likely fade away like most albums do. This album breaks NO GROUND WHATSOEVER. Someone, please point out where new ground is broken? Exactly, it doesn't. for you to say this album is a classic, especially only a couple of days after it hits the internet is ridiculous. I bet you that this album goes platinum at the most. And to this bitch I'm responding to, I took your advice, and I listened to all three of those albums, then compared it to the new Eastsidaz album, and guess what? THE EASTSIDAZ NEW ONE AIN'T AS GOOD AS THEM. Production wise, the three Death Row albums show that underground westcoast producers are much better than the people that produced this album, so yes, I'm saying Big Hutch, DJ Quik, Darren Vargas, Kurt Calhoun, Binky Mack, Blaqthoven, VMF are better than Fred Wreck, Dr. Dre, Hi-Tek, Jelly Roll, etc. If u want more proof, listen to MC Eiht's new album. The production on that album is 10x better than this album, or Snoop's last one, or anything that Snoop has touched since his Top Dogg album. I'm being real; I'm not dickriding it like others on this board. Shit, you are probably the same people that jumped all over Jayo Felony, saying "Fuck Jayo" and "Jayo sucks", just cuz he dissed Snoop. And so what that I like Death Row. They produced quality music. You may not like it cuz they diss Snoop and Dre, which is straight up ignorant. People should recognize quality music when they hear it, no matter what the content.
Oh, to that kid saying fuck Death Row, like it or not, Death Row put west coast on the map.
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What you said is an opinion... dont turn it into fact
-bpg
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I know it's just my opinion, but that jackass quoted himself to see if I'd respond, and that pissed me off. If he doesn't like what I wrote, don't bother responding.
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Mack_11 at best i can say i respect your opinion. but to say that Chronic 2000 and Dogg Pound 2002 were better albums than 2001 or The Eastsidaz is stupid. First of all the only real talent on 2000 was V.K. and mac Shawn the rest were all sound alikes and wannabees. the production was ok but not great. And i haven't heard 2002 so i will say nothing. You said death Row put the west on the map, which is true, but its not the same Death Row. To even call the company Death Row now is a joke. There are only two members who are left from the beginning both of which are RnB singers who had little to do with the greatness that was Death Row. You said that Big Hutch and others are better than Dr.Dre and associates. this is an opinion and should not be expressed as a fact.
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Ididn't really feel VK. I felt she was biting The Lady of Rage, which no one I've seen has really picked up on. And about them being imitators, if that's how their voice sounds, then they can't change that. Look at Shyne, he sounds a lot like Biggie, but not as many people jump on him saying he's a Biggie imposter than the DR people. If I say "Top Dogg is tight", there will be about 17 replies saying "he sucks, he bites Snoop". I felt Top Dogg came tight on that album. The production on that album was tighter than this Eastsidaz album, partially because they didn't give a fuck if it was accepted commercially, which Snoop does and is the reason why Swizz Beats and Mobb Deep and Hi-Tek are on the album.
About Dogg Pound 2002, the only reason people are hating on it is because Suge is releasing it. If Daz, or Snoop was releasing it, these same people would be like "This album is incredible". The song "Smoke" is one of my top 5 DPG songs ever, and it is Snoop at his best. But people refuse to buy it cuz Suge is putting it out. I don't give a fuck if Suge, Daz, Snoop, Trapp, E-40, DJ Quik put out this album, I'm still gonna get my $15 and buy the album.
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mack 11, i respect your opinion but u gotta reconsider some statements u made:
1- u said snoop wants to be accepted commercially thats why he put mobb deep and hi tek on it. Hi tek and mobb deep are no where near the fuckin commercial man, thats a stupid comment homie
2- death row didnt put the west coast on the map, u can thank the lil homie eric wright (rip) for that
peace
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Mack 11 "Death Row put west coast on the map."
you must be a newcomer to hip hop because if i'm not mistaken N.W.A., Too $hort, Ice-T, and many others put the WEST on the map ;D
N.W.A. being the key group in the rise of WEST COAST hip hop!
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Man Mack 11 get off Suge's nuts
You said
"They produced quality music"
Damn right - key word = produced
as in past tense
And lay off the villain else you'll get smacked
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YEH WE GOT EACH OTHAS BACKS!
OOOOO SHIT!
;D
peace