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Title: Fitness freaks
Post by: Meho on October 29, 2007, 02:49:10 PM
Just curious what some people take as that extra unnatural "food" (I don't know the actual english term).

I take:

- protein powder
- carb powder

Thats it, lately I'm searching around if anything else is good to take, of course, no steroids or bs like that.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 29, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
Just curious what some people take as that extra unnatural "food" (I don't know the actual english term).

I take:

- protein powder
- carb powder

Thats it, lately I'm searching around if anything else is good to take, of course, no steroids or bs like that.
what kind of protien u use?
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Meho on October 29, 2007, 03:04:48 PM
You need a name brand or what ? We have some that are made from the fitness center I visit, so I doubt it's anywhere else.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 29, 2007, 03:08:19 PM
You need a name brand or what ? We have some that are made from the fitness center I visit, so I doubt it's anywhere else.
Oh I see. I used to used cyto gainer / muscle milk they were pretty good alot of different flavors
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on October 29, 2007, 04:13:38 PM
You need a name brand or what ? We have some that are made from the fitness center I visit, so I doubt it's anywhere else.
nah man

all protein is the SAME!
it doesnt matter if its whey or whatever other protein it is. they do the same for your body, just different names.



and i took 1 cycle of creatine and it fucked me up, but since i am cutting weight no protein for me
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Meho on October 29, 2007, 04:30:40 PM
Yeah, I know that about proteins, I was just replying to the poster because I thought he wanted an exact name.

What do you mean creatin fucked you up ?
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on October 29, 2007, 04:36:14 PM
Yeah, I know that about proteins, I was just replying to the poster because I thought he wanted an exact name.

What do you mean creatin fucked you up ?
my trainer told me to double the recommended dose and i did,
my stomach felt like there was a ball of fire in there

Quote
that shit is fuckin wack

i took 8 pills size of a nickel yesterday

i feel like shit right now, i ate a fuckin rubios burrito this morning and i feel hella full the whole day, and my chest and stomach burn like a asshole after eating jalapeƱos. 
every time i get up i get a nasty burp that brings some of the burrito up. its been like 6-7 hours and i don't feel like i digested it.

my fuckin stomach is on fire


i might try it for a few more days but if that shit keeps up im gona stop.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Meho on October 29, 2007, 04:45:26 PM
Hmm, that's wierd. I took it for a while and it was fine. But I stopped because it's quite expensive and it really didn't make any diference.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Bulldog - Your Not Gafflin Nobody on October 29, 2007, 07:38:31 PM
You need a name brand or what ? We have some that are made from the fitness center I visit, so I doubt it's anywhere else.
nah man

all protein is the SAME!


apart from the taste of some of em  :puke:

the one i got nows aight thou.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on October 29, 2007, 09:03:01 PM
You need a name brand or what ? We have some that are made from the fitness center I visit, so I doubt it's anywhere else.
nah man

all protein is the SAME!


apart from the taste of some of em  :puke:

the one i got nows aight thou.
fuck the taste man

u take it for the affects not the taste

but i hear you

i use to just close my eyes and chug that bitch
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on October 29, 2007, 09:05:08 PM
Hmm, that's wierd. I took it for a while and it was fine. But I stopped because it's quite expensive and it really didn't make any diference.
yea man
different bodies different affects




but yall know what works hella good; get like 10-15 raw almonds, throw them sons of bitches in a big ass glass of 2% fat milk and drink that after a hard workout
get ripped as fuck

switch that instead of dinner
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Bay Area Jat on October 29, 2007, 09:09:17 PM
No dinner? your a crazy guy
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on October 29, 2007, 09:11:46 PM
No dinner? your a crazy guy
nah man

breakefast should be the biggest meal of the day

then lunch
and dinner should be the smallest

my breakfast shits on yall breakfast

today i had

1. fat ass cup of coffee (honey instead of sugar)
2. a cup of orange juice
3. big thing of cherios with fat free milk
4. a plum
5. glass of water


topped of by taking a fat shit.

ya dig
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Don Jacob on October 29, 2007, 09:26:24 PM
water in the morning? gross.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 29, 2007, 09:28:15 PM
swagin, no eggs? I cant drinking all those different liquids just orange juice. and i always got my water bottles with me 7 -8 a day
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on October 29, 2007, 09:31:25 PM
swagin, no eggs? I cant drinking all those different liquids just orange juice. and i always got my water bottles with me 7 -8 a day
nope
thats full of cholestreol even if i could eat them

but 7-8 a day? thats crazy, pissin like a mufucka

i needed to drink alittle more then that when i was on creatine.
but now i drink about 5 17 ounce bottles a day depending on how many times i workout
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on October 29, 2007, 09:33:01 PM
water in the morning? gross.
lol
i hate it too but its important
to shit
lubricate the organs foe food in the morning (no homo)

and to get the nasty toothpaste taste out of the mouth
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Kool Beenz on October 29, 2007, 10:03:35 PM
i just get on that work out then eat steak and potatoes and tacos
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: AnybodyKilla on October 29, 2007, 10:14:27 PM
If ur working out, take the following!!!

Protien shakes (1-2 a day)
Creatine (optional, will make u gain around 5 6 pounds, but its all water weight, once ur off it, u will loose it all, also will help increase strength)
Fish oil caps (2-3 a day, good for heart and boosts fat loss)
Multivitamin (take 1 everyday)

Those all the main/standard supplements someone should use when there working out, all that other muscle tech, cell tech bullshit has nothing but sugar and other unesscesarry things in em!!!
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: J Bananas on October 29, 2007, 10:17:57 PM
i like throwin some grape kool aid powder in an 8 oz glass of water, then chuggin that to the dome.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Machiavelli on October 29, 2007, 11:07:53 PM
swangin and bangin knows whats up...

I only take protien after I work out and sometimes in the morning when im to lazy to make somthing.

oh and creatine doesnt do shit overall, it's a gimmic really unless you use it properly in which no1 does
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Meho on October 30, 2007, 04:55:20 AM
Swanging and Banging: what is "raw almonds" and "plum" ?
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: CRAFTY on October 30, 2007, 06:05:37 AM
I've been working out for 5 years straight now and I've never used creatine. All those people talking about "creatine does your body no harm, in fact, your body produces creatine in itself. All I do is take a supplement!" ---> That may very well be true, but I still don't trust that shit. I've read lots of interviews with professional sports athletes (all kinds of sport btw: basketball, athletics, fitness, etc...) who took creatine at a certain point in their carreer and all those guys say the same thing: creatine works for a certain period of time if you use it efficiently, but the moment you stop taking it, it has a major impact on your performances AND your muscle mass shrinks in no-time as well. And this is no B/S. Like I said, this is coming from professional athletes.

I've never even taken protein powder supplements. I do it all natural. But yeah, protein powder can't really harm you if you go about it wisely.

If you watch what you eat just a little bit and work out on a regular basis, you will get good results. Sure, taking all kinds of supplements will speed up the process, but fitness is a long-term sport. Meaning, you will get results, but not in just a few months time. It takes some dedication. And lots of people don't seem to have that perseverance. Just calling it how I see it...
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Intriago33 on October 30, 2007, 06:31:24 AM
I read that Casein is a supplement you can take before sleep, apparently it works better than a simple Whey as it slow releases over a period of hours - I have never tried it myself though.

I only take a scoop and half of Whey after a workout - I just had one actually.

On an average day I have 1/2 chicken breasts, a shitload of vegetables, 1 tin of tuna and oatmeal - occasionaly I chuck in some fruit in a blender if there's any laying about.
On the weekend I dont take shit apart from alcohol though - that's my huge down point  ;D

(edit) and mid-week I always hit a gallon (4.5l) of water a day - I have never done that already and it's only 1.30pm.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on October 30, 2007, 09:19:05 AM
Swanging and Banging: what is "raw almonds" and "plum" ?
plum= (http://www.kingorchards.com/images/plum.jpg)
just a regular fruit wash that shit up and chomp it down, and throw away the wooded shit in the middle




almonds= is regular almonds that u get at the store. most of them come flavored and salted and all different types of shit. you gotta find the tasteless natural ones that nobody put shit on.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Meho on October 30, 2007, 11:45:14 AM
Ah I know what both is, just didn't know the english term.

Does anyone know what Bishop is talking about at 5:58

http://www.youtube.com/v/2EQUUu2NP1c&rel=1
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Meho on November 11, 2007, 08:37:03 AM
Nobody knows what he's talking about ? Something about "animal packs" I think, I have no idea what he's saying.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Narrator on November 11, 2007, 09:09:12 AM
I've used Mega Whey and Met-RX before, neither of which really benefited me that much.  I also got sick of cleaning out the blender after a while.

Really, if you want to bulk up, the best thing to do is just eat more.  It's that simple.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on November 11, 2007, 10:36:59 AM
You get big in the kitchen.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on November 11, 2007, 11:23:39 AM
I've used Mega Whey and Met-RX before, neither of which really benefited me that much.  I also got sick of cleaning out the blender after a while.

Really, if you want to bulk up, the best thing to do is just eat more.  It's that simple.
true story

i've been liftin everything about 90% now

and eat like crazy
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Meho on November 11, 2007, 03:37:05 PM
Yeah, I eat like crazy, but it does take some money, quite a bit. I train for about 3, 4 years and I went from 70kg to 95 kg.

If anyone can tell me what Bishop is talking about, I'll prop you for days  :-*
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Bulldog - Your Not Gafflin Nobody on November 11, 2007, 05:08:48 PM
^^^^

he talkin about animal pak timbo. i never used it but one guy at my gym says its the shit and hes massive

http://bodybuilding.com/store/univ/animalpak.html (http://bodybuilding.com/store/univ/animalpak.html)
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Narrator on November 11, 2007, 07:14:04 PM
Yeah, I eat like crazy, but it does take some money, quite a bit. I train for about 3, 4 years and I went from 70kg to 95 kg.

If anyone can tell me what Bishop is talking about, I'll prop you for days  :-*

Well, you gotta learn to cook more instead of eating out.  Also, do you really think that using protein supplements is gonna save you money?  I dunno what prices are where you live, but whenever I buy Mega Whey (I still use it on some occasions), I pay about $60 USD for a box of 12 packets, each of which is supposed to be mixed with 10-mL of water.  That means in about two weeks, it gets used up.  I don't consider that a good deal, especially since it's supposed to be a SUPPLEMENT, which means you still gotta eat lots as well.  Most people I know who buy shit from GNC basically admit that they only do it cause they don't know much about nutrition and it saves them the trouble of having to learn...at the end of the day, it's all so overpriced that you sure as hell do NOT save much money.  And the folks at GNC know this, too...they just won't tell you that.

So, best bet...do your own cooking, and learn how to get the most out of your meals by combining ingredients from several different food groups.  Make yourself a large bowl of pasta and mix it with chicken as a lean protein source, for instance.  Also make sure you divide up your meals into something like 5 per day, and also take shits as little as possible.  Oh, yeah, and beef jerky is always a good snack (if they sell that where you live).  But really, bottom line is, EDUCATE yourself, don't just trust some over-the-counter nutritionist with your money, cause those people aren't your friends...they want you to buy their protein supplements so that they can take your money.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: ::Mr. Hahn:: on November 11, 2007, 08:17:48 PM
I'm training pretty hard right now (Brazilian jiujitsu, Muay Thai boxing, Weights), so first and foremost my nutrition is the most important thing!

Aside from regular meals my current supplement stack is:

Fish oil capsules (3 a day)
AST Multo Pro 32x (multi vitamin) 2 a day
Whey protein concentrate, 3 servings a day
Creatine - once a day
Superpump250 (Nitric oxide, for pre workout energy), only pre workout
BCAA's - pre and post workout only

Examples of my stack:

Every morning: Fish oil, protein shake, multi vitamin.

Pre workout:

1 hour before: Meal and (30g WPC) protein shake
1/2 and hour before workout: Super Pump250 (Nitric Oxide/creatine supplement), 5g BCAA's.

Post workout:

Immediately after i put the weight down for my last set: 80g of dextrose/maltodextrine + 10g creatine + 5g BCAA's
20 minutes later: Protein shake and big meal.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Bulldog - Your Not Gafflin Nobody on November 11, 2007, 10:49:05 PM
foday speakin the truth.

i take protein shakes but thats the only supplement i use.

u gotta hit up that chicken, tinned tuna/salmon etc., shit thats high in protein and eat like a motherfucker. be smart about it and REST, a decent nights sleep is important too.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on November 11, 2007, 10:54:11 PM
I'm training pretty hard right now (Brazilian jiujitsu, Muay Thai boxing, Weights), so first and foremost my nutrition is the most important thing!

Aside from regular meals my current supplement stack is:

Fish oil capsules (3 a day)
AST Multo Pro 32x (multi vitamin) 2 a day
Whey protein concentrate, 3 servings a day
Creatine - once a day
Superpump250 (Nitric oxide, for pre workout energy), only pre workout
BCAA's - pre and post workout only

Examples of my stack:

Every morning: Fish oil, protein shake, multi vitamin.

Pre workout:

1 hour before: Meal and (30g WPC) protein shake
1/2 and hour before workout: Super Pump250 (Nitric Oxide/creatine supplement), 5g BCAA's.

Post workout:

Immediately after i put the weight down for my last set: 80g of dextrose/maltodextrine + 10g creatine + 5g BCAA's
20 minutes later: Protein shake and big meal.
nice how are your meals?
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on November 11, 2007, 11:00:45 PM
I'm training pretty hard right now (Brazilian jiujitsu, Muay Thai boxing, Weights), so first and foremost my nutrition is the most important thing!

Aside from regular meals my current supplement stack is:

Fish oil capsules (3 a day)
AST Multo Pro 32x (multi vitamin) 2 a day
Whey protein concentrate, 3 servings a day
Creatine - once a day
Superpump250 (Nitric oxide, for pre workout energy), only pre workout
BCAA's - pre and post workout only

Examples of my stack:

Every morning: Fish oil, protein shake, multi vitamin.

Pre workout:

1 hour before: Meal and (30g WPC) protein shake
1/2 and hour before workout: Super Pump250 (Nitric Oxide/creatine supplement), 5g BCAA's.

Post workout:

Immediately after i put the weight down for my last set: 80g of dextrose/maltodextrine + 10g creatine + 5g BCAA's
20 minutes later: Protein shake and big meal.
thats not very healthy
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: ::Mr. Hahn:: on November 11, 2007, 11:16:54 PM
I'm training pretty hard right now (Brazilian jiujitsu, Muay Thai boxing, Weights), so first and foremost my nutrition is the most important thing!

Aside from regular meals my current supplement stack is:

Fish oil capsules (3 a day)
AST Multo Pro 32x (multi vitamin) 2 a day
Whey protein concentrate, 3 servings a day
Creatine - once a day
Superpump250 (Nitric oxide, for pre workout energy), only pre workout
BCAA's - pre and post workout only

Examples of my stack:

Every morning: Fish oil, protein shake, multi vitamin.

Pre workout:

1 hour before: Meal and (30g WPC) protein shake
1/2 and hour before workout: Super Pump250 (Nitric Oxide/creatine supplement), 5g BCAA's.

Post workout:

Immediately after i put the weight down for my last set: 80g of dextrose/maltodextrine + 10g creatine + 5g BCAA's
20 minutes later: Protein shake and big meal.
thats not very healthy

What makes you think its not healthy? Provided i keep my fats at a low, drink 3-4 litres of water a day im fine. I also get a blood test every 3 months to have my liver and kidney's checked out. So far so good.

Great results since starting the current stack for about 2 months.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: swangin and bangin on November 11, 2007, 11:20:44 PM
I'm training pretty hard right now (Brazilian jiujitsu, Muay Thai boxing, Weights), so first and foremost my nutrition is the most important thing!

Aside from regular meals my current supplement stack is:

Fish oil capsules (3 a day)
AST Multo Pro 32x (multi vitamin) 2 a day
Whey protein concentrate, 3 servings a day
Creatine - once a day
Superpump250 (Nitric oxide, for pre workout energy), only pre workout
BCAA's - pre and post workout only

Examples of my stack:

Every morning: Fish oil, protein shake, multi vitamin.

Pre workout:

1 hour before: Meal and (30g WPC) protein shake
1/2 and hour before workout: Super Pump250 (Nitric Oxide/creatine supplement), 5g BCAA's.

Post workout:

Immediately after i put the weight down for my last set: 80g of dextrose/maltodextrine + 10g creatine + 5g BCAA's
20 minutes later: Protein shake and big meal.
thats not very healthy

What makes you think its not healthy? Provided i keep my fats at a low, drink 3-4 litres of water a day im fine. I also get a blood test every 3 months to have my liver and kidney's checked out. So far so good.

Great results since starting the current stack for about 2 months.
long run that shits gona fuck you up
mark my words


human body aint meant for that shit

aint tryin to put you down or nothing just my opinion

do what you do but thats what i think

i eat hella fruits and veggies for my vitamins and minerals
eat carbs for energy to workout and drink mad amount of milk for protein \
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: ::Mr. Hahn:: on November 11, 2007, 11:21:23 PM
I'm training pretty hard right now (Brazilian jiujitsu, Muay Thai boxing, Weights), so first and foremost my nutrition is the most important thing!

Aside from regular meals my current supplement stack is:

Fish oil capsules (3 a day)
AST Multo Pro 32x (multi vitamin) 2 a day
Whey protein concentrate, 3 servings a day
Creatine - once a day
Superpump250 (Nitric oxide, for pre workout energy), only pre workout
BCAA's - pre and post workout only

Examples of my stack:

Every morning: Fish oil, protein shake, multi vitamin.

Pre workout:

1 hour before: Meal and (30g WPC) protein shake
1/2 and hour before workout: Super Pump250 (Nitric Oxide/creatine supplement), 5g BCAA's.

Post workout:

Immediately after i put the weight down for my last set: 80g of dextrose/maltodextrine + 10g creatine + 5g BCAA's
20 minutes later: Protein shake and big meal.
nice how are your meals?

Meals are good, breakfast almost always consists of Oat Brits (pretty much just oats pressed into dry cake like rectangles), i eat these as they're high in carbs and calories.

if im going into university i'll pack a protein shake, and about 4 sandwhiches which i'll eat every 3 hours and i'll usually buy a snack at uni like another sandwhich or a meat pie (we eat those in australia a lot). After your 3rd sandwhich of the day it really gets boring. Then afterwards i'll get home and have dinner, usually steak, chicken breast or lamb chops with salad or veggies.

The sandwiches usually consist of: brown bread, lots of lettuce, cheese, and a heap of meat/tuna.

On non uni days if im going into the office, then i'll do the same but i'll buy a couple large sushi rolls to snack on in between my meals.

I aim mainly to keep my fats low, proteins high. I'm currently bulking so i get to eat more carbs :)
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Vegasmac25 on November 11, 2007, 11:21:38 PM
egg whites always help me out for my breakfast with a glass of chocolate milk.If im in a hurry ill make some oatmeal instead.Before lunch i try to eat some fruit like an apple or a grapefruit.For lunch ill actually have big salad and a piece of grilled chicken breasts or some tuna.THen for dinner ill get a piece of steak with a shit load of veggies with a glass of water and some yogurt.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: ::Mr. Hahn:: on November 11, 2007, 11:27:13 PM
long run that shits gona fuck you up
mark my words


human body aint meant for that shit

aint tryin to put you down or nothing just my opinion

do what you do but thats what i think

i eat hella fruits and veggies for my vitamins and minerals
eat carbs for energy to workout and drink mad amount of milk for protein \


I understand ur opinion, the way im approaching it is:

- There are no long term effects or health issues concerned with BCAA (which are just proteins) consumption or whey protein consumption other than excess protein diets causing liver/kidney problems if you DONT consume enough water, which i do so i'm fine there.

- There are no long term effects of creatine consumption, there's been numerous studies on this i dont need to elaborate on the safety of creatine.

- Multi vitamins are fine, as are fish oil tablets.

- Carb powders like dextrose and maltodextrine are just simple sugars, theres no problems with sugar consumption as long as its not excessive, and provided i take it post workout my body will just absorb it. I dont have much sugar intake in my regular diet.

That only leaves the superpump250 (nitric oxide) supplement in question. This supplement has not been around for long enough to have independent studies done on it, so i cant comment on how the long term supplementation of this product will effect me. I wont wait tho, after i finish this bucket i'll stop it until there is further evidence of it being safe. But i must admit this product is great.

So if i take out the Nitric supplement, i'm pretty much taking safe products!
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Intriago33 on November 12, 2007, 01:56:03 AM
foday speakin the truth.

i take protein shakes but thats the only supplement i use.

u gotta hit up that chicken, tinned tuna/salmon etc., shit thats high in protein and eat like a motherfucker. be smart about it and REST, a decent nights sleep is important too.

Yes, that's basically where I get my Protein intake - Chicken, Salmon and Tuna.
I also mess with Whey Protein.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: Meho on November 12, 2007, 02:52:15 AM
Yeah, I eat like crazy, but it does take some money, quite a bit. I train for about 3, 4 years and I went from 70kg to 95 kg.

If anyone can tell me what Bishop is talking about, I'll prop you for days  :-*

Well, you gotta learn to cook more instead of eating out.  Also, do you really think that using protein supplements is gonna save you money?  I dunno what prices are where you live, but whenever I buy Mega Whey (I still use it on some occasions), I pay about $60 USD for a box of 12 packets, each of which is supposed to be mixed with 10-mL of water.  That means in about two weeks, it gets used up.  I don't consider that a good deal, especially since it's supposed to be a SUPPLEMENT, which means you still gotta eat lots as well.  Most people I know who buy shit from GNC basically admit that they only do it cause they don't know much about nutrition and it saves them the trouble of having to learn...at the end of the day, it's all so overpriced that you sure as hell do NOT save much money.  And the folks at GNC know this, too...they just won't tell you that.

So, best bet...do your own cooking, and learn how to get the most out of your meals by combining ingredients from several different food groups.  Make yourself a large bowl of pasta and mix it with chicken as a lean protein source, for instance.  Also make sure you divide up your meals into something like 5 per day, and also take shits as little as possible.  Oh, yeah, and beef jerky is always a good snack (if they sell that where you live).  But really, bottom line is, EDUCATE yourself, don't just trust some over-the-counter nutritionist with your money, cause those people aren't your friends...they want you to buy their protein supplements so that they can take your money.

Don't worry, I definetly have my "eat healthy" game down. I eat a lot of meat, carbs, drink a lot of milk and water, lots of fruit and vegies. And I only take why protein and carb powder before and after my training, which I have 3x a week. So it's cheap and I have one pack for about 2 months.

Thanks for that link for Animal Pak, anybody has any personal experience with that, I never trust these sites that promote them.
Title: Re: Fitness freaks
Post by: ::Mr. Hahn:: on November 12, 2007, 03:18:00 AM
Yeah, I eat like crazy, but it does take some money, quite a bit. I train for about 3, 4 years and I went from 70kg to 95 kg.

If anyone can tell me what Bishop is talking about, I'll prop you for days  :-*

Well, you gotta learn to cook more instead of eating out.  Also, do you really think that using protein supplements is gonna save you money?  I dunno what prices are where you live, but whenever I buy Mega Whey (I still use it on some occasions), I pay about $60 USD for a box of 12 packets, each of which is supposed to be mixed with 10-mL of water.  That means in about two weeks, it gets used up.  I don't consider that a good deal, especially since it's supposed to be a SUPPLEMENT, which means you still gotta eat lots as well.  Most people I know who buy shit from GNC basically admit that they only do it cause they don't know much about nutrition and it saves them the trouble of having to learn...at the end of the day, it's all so overpriced that you sure as hell do NOT save much money.  And the folks at GNC know this, too...they just won't tell you that.

So, best bet...do your own cooking, and learn how to get the most out of your meals by combining ingredients from several different food groups.  Make yourself a large bowl of pasta and mix it with chicken as a lean protein source, for instance.  Also make sure you divide up your meals into something like 5 per day, and also take shits as little as possible.  Oh, yeah, and beef jerky is always a good snack (if they sell that where you live).  But really, bottom line is, EDUCATE yourself, don't just trust some over-the-counter nutritionist with your money, cause those people aren't your friends...they want you to buy their protein supplements so that they can take your money.

Don't worry, I definetly have my "eat healthy" game down. I eat a lot of meat, carbs, drink a lot of milk and water, lots of fruit and vegies. And I only take why protein and carb powder before and after my training, which I have 3x a week. So it's cheap and I have one pack for about 2 months.

Thanks for that link for Animal Pak, anybody has any personal experience with that, I never trust these sites that promote them.

Animal Pak is a multi-vitamin, if you look on www.bodybuilding.com you'll find the 3 most popular are the one im taking AST Multi pro 32x, Optimum Nutritions's Opti-Men and Animal Pak.

Undoubtedly the most popular is Animal Pak, how effective is it? I am not sure, its wayyyyyy too expensive for me to afford, however the ingredients in it are awesome, if you can afford it i'd try it out.

However looking at what you're currently taking, i'd opt for a cheaper multi, and get some more whey protein into you more regularly to sustain higher protein in ur diet, ur doing the right thing with the carb powders (restoring lost glycogen and getting insulin spike to carry nutrients), but if u only taking ur whey 3 times a week, if i were you i'd buy more whey so you can get more nutrients into you more regularly.