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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Don Jacob on October 30, 2007, 06:30:22 PM
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anyone catch the TNT halftime report?
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yeah I just heard that
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The only people dumber than our roster is our front office and management. First it was Jerry Buss's other son posting his "goodbye Kobe" bulletin on Myspace in the summer. Then it was Buss said they'll listen to offers and "you can never keep too many loyalties". Then it was Phil with his 'I don't think he's committed' comment. Now Magic dissing him AGAIN.
Wrong time to be talking down on a man who already wants out.
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Oh, and the funny thing is, Magic started the interview by saying "the Lakers have too many voices right now". Haaa!
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Magic is confused... This franchise needs help.
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Magic is confused... This franchise needs help.
Yeah Magic still mad about that Shaq trade. Really did not see the need for him to say all that at this time. He has kept his opinion to himself for a while about the subject.
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he really said that? damn that's heavy for kobe to hear, especially at this very moment...
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Magic is confused... This franchise needs help.
you got to realise that people have different opinions man... even some of your favorite players... i know how passionate you are on this subject thats why im not dissing but just stating it... i personally think Magic is right but that doesnt make me right.
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Kinda seems like Magic is talking as a fan as opposed to a front office rep..
I ain't gonna lie, just watching the game last night I couldn't stop thinking about this
Kobe situatiion either I can't wait until we can watch Basketball again.
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^kobe did get fouled though on that very last play though can't blame anyone for that loss
you can't say the lakers didn't have heart in this game, luke walton came up BIG, farmar came up BIG.
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The only people dumber than our roster is our front office and management. First it was Jerry Buss's other son posting his "goodbye Kobe" bulletin on Myspace in the summer. Then it was Buss said they'll listen to offers and "you can never keep too many loyalties". Then it was Phil with his 'I don't think he's committed' comment. Now Magic dissing him AGAIN.
Wrong time to be talking down on a man who already wants out.
What the fuck you want them to do? Kiss his ass? Fuck that! Kobe acts like a fuckin' woman.
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what funny though is that kobe wanted to be the star of the team, if we would have kept shaq we might have won another championship and right about this same time Kobe would have been then star of the team anyway with the declining shaq.
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what funny though is that kobe wanted to be the star of the team, if we would have kept shaq we might have won another championship and right about this same time Kobe would have been then star of the team anyway with the declining shaq.
I always thought that was the plan. I was on the Shaq side of the Laker's fans, but understood letting him go. But in retrospect, we should have kept him and gave him and Kobe some counsling on teamwork. I wish Magic would take a bigger role in the Lakers, I think his the one that can help get us out of this mess and back to building for titles.
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Magic is confused... This franchise needs help.
you got to realise that people have different opinions man... even some of your favorite players... i know how passionate you are on this subject thats why im not dissing but just stating it... i personally think Magic is right but that doesnt make me right.
Yea, I also think Kobe shoulda' been the bigger man and tried harder to mend things with Shaq, but dude was just way too much of a selfish baby when he was around here...PeACe
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The only people dumber than our roster is our front office and management. First it was Jerry Buss's other son posting his "goodbye Kobe" bulletin on Myspace in the summer. Then it was Buss said they'll listen to offers and "you can never keep too many loyalties". Then it was Phil with his 'I don't think he's committed' comment. Now Magic dissing him AGAIN.
Wrong time to be talking down on a man who already wants out.
What the fuck you want them to do? Kiss his ass? Fuck that! Kobe acts like a fuckin' woman.
How so? Kobe hasn't said shit since June...It's the media and the Lakers FO going in circles now. It takes a certain level of understanding to see what Kobe is going through...PeACe
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what funny though is that kobe wanted to be the star of the team, if we would have kept shaq we might have won another championship and right about this same time Kobe would have been then star of the team anyway with the declining shaq.
No shit...the thing is, Shaq was afraid to fade behind Kobe on the Lakers, he wanted all the glory and attention, or at least most of it. He couldn't stand the recognition Kobe was getting. See my "Laker Mega-Post"...PeACe
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The only people dumber than our roster is our front office and management. First it was Jerry Buss's other son posting his "goodbye Kobe" bulletin on Myspace in the summer. Then it was Buss said they'll listen to offers and "you can never keep too many loyalties". Then it was Phil with his 'I don't think he's committed' comment. Now Magic dissing him AGAIN.
Wrong time to be talking down on a man who already wants out.
What the fuck you want them to do? Kiss his ass? Fuck that! Kobe acts like a fuckin' woman.
I didn't say kiss his ass, I'm sayin they all need to stop adding fuel to the fire. Buss's comments were unnecessary. Phil's comments were unnecessary, although I appreciate Jeanie Buss's comments - they were unnecessary, and Magic's Kobe massacre last night was damn sure unnecessary. They all need to shut the fuck up and handle this away from the cameras and microphones.
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^kobe did get fouled though on that very last play though can't blame anyone for that loss
you can't say the lakers didn't have heart in this game, luke walton came up BIG, farmar came up BIG.
Farmar didn't do shit. Other then Kobe, Luke, Ronny, Kwame and Fisher...the rest played like the scrubs...either get Kobe some real talent ASAP or trade his ass.
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^kobe did get fouled though on that very last play though can't blame anyone for that loss
you can't say the lakers didn't have heart in this game, luke walton came up BIG, farmar came up BIG.
Farmar didn't do shit. Other then Kobe, Luke, Ronny, Kwame and Fisher...the rest played like the scrubs...either get Kobe some real talent ASAP or trade his ass.
Farmar played smart basketball out there, controlled the tempo, and made a key play in crunch time to spark the comeback... I dunno what you're on about. ???
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I didn't see anything special about Farmar's game..he scored 4 pts and had 1 assist...at first I kinda wanted him to be the starter after watching the preseason games...but after seeing how well Fisher played, I see why Phil made that choice.
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Farmar played in spurts and barely had the ball to do anything with it. he only attempted 5 shots, but played smart basketball without making mistakes on the floor...PeACe
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The only people dumber than our roster is our front office and management. First it was Jerry Buss's other son posting his "goodbye Kobe" bulletin on Myspace in the summer. Then it was Buss said they'll listen to offers and "you can never keep too many loyalties". Then it was Phil with his 'I don't think he's committed' comment. Now Magic dissing him AGAIN.
Wrong time to be talking down on a man who already wants out.
What the fuck you want them to do? Kiss his ass? Fuck that! Kobe acts like a fuckin' woman.
I didn't say kiss his ass, I'm sayin they all need to stop adding fuel to the fire. Buss's comments were unnecessary. Phil's comments were unnecessary, although I appreciate Jeanie Buss's comments - they were unnecessary, and Magic's Kobe massacre last night was damn sure unnecessary. They all need to shut the fuck up and handle this away from the cameras and microphones.
All of this shit wouldn't be happening if Kobe would have voiced his displeasure behind close doors.
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The only people dumber than our roster is our front office and management. First it was Jerry Buss's other son posting his "goodbye Kobe" bulletin on Myspace in the summer. Then it was Buss said they'll listen to offers and "you can never keep too many loyalties". Then it was Phil with his 'I don't think he's committed' comment. Now Magic dissing him AGAIN.
Wrong time to be talking down on a man who already wants out.
What the fuck you want them to do? Kiss his ass? Fuck that! Kobe acts like a fuckin' woman.
I didn't say kiss his ass, I'm sayin they all need to stop adding fuel to the fire. Buss's comments were unnecessary. Phil's comments were unnecessary, although I appreciate Jeanie Buss's comments - they were unnecessary, and Magic's Kobe massacre last night was damn sure unnecessary. They all need to shut the fuck up and handle this away from the cameras and microphones.
All of this shit wouldn't be happening if Kobe would have voiced his displeasure behind close doors.
He woulda' done that if it were possible...Being alienated and not having direct contact to your boss can drive a person wild. Understand.
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I didn't say kiss his ass, I'm sayin they all need to stop adding fuel to the fire. Buss's comments were unnecessary. Phil's comments were unnecessary, although I appreciate Jeanie Buss's comments - they were unnecessary, and Magic's Kobe massacre last night was damn sure unnecessary. They all need to shut the fuck up and handle this away from the cameras and microphones.
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I agree 100% with that statement bro..
but unfortunatly I belive it has gotten to the point that
The Lakers are going to have to suck Kobe off and swallow in order to keep him here...
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The only people dumber than our roster is our front office and management. First it was Jerry Buss's other son posting his "goodbye Kobe" bulletin on Myspace in the summer. Then it was Buss said they'll listen to offers and "you can never keep too many loyalties". Then it was Phil with his 'I don't think he's committed' comment. Now Magic dissing him AGAIN.
Wrong time to be talking down on a man who already wants out.
What the fuck you want them to do? Kiss his ass? Fuck that! Kobe acts like a fuckin' woman.
I didn't say kiss his ass, I'm sayin they all need to stop adding fuel to the fire. Buss's comments were unnecessary. Phil's comments were unnecessary, although I appreciate Jeanie Buss's comments - they were unnecessary, and Magic's Kobe massacre last night was damn sure unnecessary. They all need to shut the fuck up and handle this away from the cameras and microphones.
All of this shit wouldn't be happening if Kobe would have voiced his displeasure behind close doors.
The thing is that, its very possible Kobe has voiced his displeasure behind close doors...due to Jim and Mitch's stupity when it comes to making good trades...they probably didn't even bother taking Kobe seriously...until Kobe brought this issue to the public...which woke Jim and Mitch up from their coma.
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The only people dumber than our roster is our front office and management. First it was Jerry Buss's other son posting his "goodbye Kobe" bulletin on Myspace in the summer. Then it was Buss said they'll listen to offers and "you can never keep too many loyalties". Then it was Phil with his 'I don't think he's committed' comment. Now Magic dissing him AGAIN.
Wrong time to be talking down on a man who already wants out.
What the fuck you want them to do? Kiss his ass? Fuck that! Kobe acts like a fuckin' woman.
I didn't say kiss his ass, I'm sayin they all need to stop adding fuel to the fire. Buss's comments were unnecessary. Phil's comments were unnecessary, although I appreciate Jeanie Buss's comments - they were unnecessary, and Magic's Kobe massacre last night was damn sure unnecessary. They all need to shut the fuck up and handle this away from the cameras and microphones.
All of this shit wouldn't be happening if Kobe would have voiced his displeasure behind close doors.
"I couldn't call Jerry Buss, I don't have his cell number" - Kobe
Looks like he didn't have that option. And even when they were talking behind closed doors he was just lied to. Face it: Buss lied to him to get him to re-sign, then put his son in charge of the team. So the whole time Kobe's been in his prime, Jerry has been building this team around Bynum rather than Kobe. Now you have the best player in the NBA on a team full of scrubs who still haven't figured out that the round bouncy thing is supposed to go into the circled hole with the nut hanging from it.
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Fuck Kobe!!!
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Fuck not understanding!!!!
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Fuck you guys being so extreme!
The truth is in the middle, imho. I mean Kobe was part of the reasons why one of the greatest teams ever was been destroyed. Now i don't care if it was 51% Shaq's fault and 49% Kobe's fault, or viceversa. But Kobe didn't do shit to make peace with that other moron, that's a fact. He took it personal. Maybe he had good reasons to do it, but he somehow damaged the Lakers. And i think it's the thing Magic Johnson himself said on tv lately. Kobe should have accepted the fact Shaq was the boss of that team and continue to play for the Lakers no matter what, without optiong-out and without going on a personal war with Shaq. It doesn't matter if he was right. The Lakers from that moment traded Shaq, they resigned Kobe with a contract extension, they didn't resign Phil (Phil wanted 10 millions to coach the Shaq-less Lakers), they contacted all the coaches Kobe liked (Coach K. being the n.1, til' coach Rudy T.), they built the new team around Kobe, they were forced to sign Phil Jackson to 10 millions because the Shaq-less team was so embarassing it was necessary to sign Phil, no matter what the cost was. Not to mention what this organization did to Kobe while Kobe was having problems with the law. The Lakers did a lot for Kobe. They probably promised him to build a contender team, but fuck it: Kobe was about to sign with the CLIPPERS!! THE FUCKING CLIPPERS!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!????
So, i'm being neutral in this shit. Mitch did some mistakes refusing to make trades. Kobe did some mistakes disrespecting the organization (the same way Shaq did). And now they probably are in a situation where they took things personal. It happens. And the Lakers prefeer to keep Bynum instead than trading him to make Kobe happy. They're chosing Bynum over Kobe, basically. I don't know. I don't predict the future.
The only thing i can say for sure is i know Kobe is a mutherfucking winner, so i ain't worried about his approach to the game: he'll continue to be the best player in the world no matter what. AND I'LL CONTINUE TO BE A LAKER FAN NO MATTER WHAT. We will see.
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Fuck you guys being so extreme!
The truth is in the middle, imho. I mean Kobe was part of the reasons why one of the greatest teams ever was been destroyed. Now i don't care if it was 51% Shaq's fault and 49% Kobe's fault, or viceversa. But Kobe didn't do shit to make peace with that other moron, that's a fact. He took it personal. Maybe he had good reasons to do it, but he somehow damaged the Lakers. And i think it's the thing Magic Johnson himself said on tv lately. Kobe should have accepted the fact Shaq was the boss of that team and continue to play for the Lakers no matter what, without optiong-out and without going on a personal war with Shaq. It doesn't matter if he was right. The Lakers from that moment traded Shaq, they resigned Kobe with a contract extension, they didn't resign Phil (Phil wanted 10 millions to coach the Shaq-less Lakers), they contacted all the coaches Kobe liked (Coach K. being the n.1, til' coach Rudy T.), they built the new team around Kobe, they were forced to sign Phil Jackson to 10 millions because the Shaq-less team was so embarassing it was necessary to sign Phil, no matter what the cost was. Not to mention what this organization did to Kobe while Kobe was having problems with the law. The Lakers did a lot for Kobe. They probably promised him to build a contender team, but fuck it: Kobe was about to sign with the CLIPPERS!! THE FUCKING CLIPPERS!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!????
So, i'm being neutral in this shit. Mitch did some mistakes refusing to make trades. Kobe did some mistakes disrespecting the organization (the same way Shaq did). And now they probably are in a situation where they took things personal. It happens. And the Lakers prefeer to keep Bynum instead than trading him to make Kobe happy. They're chosing Bynum over Kobe, basically. I don't know. I don't predict the future.
The only thing i can say for sure is i know Kobe is a mutherfucking winner, so i ain't worried about his approach to the game: he'll continue to be the best player in the world no matter what. AND I'LL CONTINUE TO BE A LAKER FAN NO MATTER WHAT. We will see.
Great post. (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbup.gif)
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Fuck Kobe!!!
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Fuck Kobe!!!
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Fuck fuck Kobe!
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NIK stop thinking with your dick faggot
you know nothing about basketball, get a life
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get off my nuts, dipshit.
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Magic is one of my idols, but maybe if he would have taken a leadership initiative and helped the two stars get along, things would have been possibly different? West would have handled it because the dude is a leader.
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Magic is one of my idols, but maybe if he would have taken a leadership initiative and helped the two stars get along, things would have been possibly different? West would have handled it because the dude is a leader.
Funny thing is, I recall him saying "Kobe and Shaq a great thing going, its just too bad no one stepped in and sat those two down and made them check their egos". Ummm lets see, how about a hall of fame player who's still an active member of our organization? Good job Magic. Point fingers and talk down on a situation that you sat back and watched fall apart.
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Shit, not just a Hall of famer, but a fuckin Basketball Icon... who's not going to listen to Magic? The dude that doesn't listen to Magic deserves to have his ass shipped elsewhere...
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Magic is one of my idols, but maybe if he would have taken a leadership initiative and helped the two stars get along, things would have been possibly different? West would have handled it because the dude is a leader.
Funny thing is, I recall him saying "Kobe and Shaq a great thing going, its just too bad no one stepped in and sat those two down and made them check their egos". Ummm lets see, how about a hall of fame player who's still an active member of our organization? Good job Magic. Point fingers and talk down on a situation that you sat back and watched fall apart.
Magic put it to practice. He did not get along with Kareem. They had to work it out. He let Kareem be the man, well he did his thing. And look where it lead him. Magic doesn't talk, he did it.
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True... but you have to know that not everybody handles situations the same. If you have the experience of having to put up with another star already, it wouldn't hurt to step in and help your current stars learn what you've learned.
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Magic is one of my idols, but maybe if he would have taken a leadership initiative and helped the two stars get along, things would have been possibly different? West would have handled it because the dude is a leader.
Funny thing is, I recall him saying "Kobe and Shaq a great thing going, its just too bad no one stepped in and sat those two down and made them check their egos". Ummm lets see, how about a hall of fame player who's still an active member of our organization? Good job Magic. Point fingers and talk down on a situation that you sat back and watched fall apart.
Magic put it to practice. He did not get along with Kareem. They had to work it out. He let Kareem be the man, well he did his thing. And look where it lead him. Magic doesn't talk, he did it.
Kareem knew when to take a step back...Magic is lucky he never had to deal with a center like Shaq during his career.
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props to magic
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To me When I hear the words "Magic Johnson" it's like saying "The Lakers"
I honestly can sit here and tell you that number 32 is the epitimy of a laker...
if I had to draw a charcter called "Lakerman", he'd have on a number 32 jersey with blue kneepads on..
(I hope I made my point..lol)
Magic is the man in LA.
but IMO, Magic fucked up talking about this on TV, he buckled under the pressure and spoke the words everyone wanted to hear.
Magic spoke as a fan and for the fan's...
but shit has changed since the real player's Mr. Johnson, remember that this is a different age.
where opinion & money have more of an impact than being faithfull & winning.
Kobe need's to stay here. (IMO, this shit should have never leaked in the first place)
but if he don't wanna be here then let's ship him out.
but all this bullshit talk is killing it.
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i agree, Kobe and Shaq could have won another 3-4 titles if they stayed together
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Lol what's with you and bumping all these old threads?
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i agree, Kobe and Shaq could have won another 3-4 titles if they stayed together
shaq was terrified of fading behind kobe
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i agree, Kobe and Shaq could have won another 3-4 titles if they stayed together
shaq was terrified of fading behind kobe
Sadly, Shaq's ego was actually more at fault that Kobe's in this one, and had they stayed together then they would have won at least 4 more titles.
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i agree, Kobe and Shaq could have won another 3-4 titles if they stayed together
shaq was terrified of fading behind kobe
Sadly, Shaq's ego was actually more at fault that Kobe's in this one, and had they stayed together then they would have won at least 4 more titles.
real spit