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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Dimos on November 17, 2007, 03:18:58 AM
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DJ Age told us on the Dynasty forums that he called Crooked I... He told him that he had a lot of distribution deals on the table and that he's just taking his time to make the right decision. He also told him that he's about to shoot the video for NWA. I know he's been saying that there was a music video coming since August but its understandable that it took so much time cause he wants a lot of new west artists to appear in that video...
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Same old, he must have a lot of offers.
'05 is mine is now maybe 08.
Tired.
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hopefully he ain't fuckin around this time
i thought treacherous already had distribution with universal, why u need another label :-\
can't wait to see NWA video
no point in shooting a vid to that though unless u got ur album 100% good 2 go, and that ain't the case if u still lookin for a distribution deal
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hopefully he ain't fuckin around this time
i thought treacherous already had distribution with universal, why u need another label :-\
can't wait to see NWA video
no point in shooting a vid to that though unless u got ur album 100% good 2 go, and that ain't the case if u still lookin for a distribution deal
you're right,whats the deal about shooting a video if you album aint coming out
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hopefully he ain't fuckin around this time
i thought treacherous already had distribution with universal, why u need another label :-\
can't wait to see NWA video
no point in shooting a vid to that though unless u got ur album 100% good 2 go, and that ain't the case if u still lookin for a distribution deal
what up lunatic? nah I think Treacherous lost their distribution deal sometime after they released Kurupt's Greatest Hits CD. Not sure though...
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hopefully he ain't fuckin around this time
i thought treacherous already had distribution with universal, why u need another label :-\
can't wait to see NWA video
no point in shooting a vid to that though unless u got ur album 100% good 2 go, and that ain't the case if u still lookin for a distribution deal
what up lunatic? nah I think Treacherous lost their distribution deal sometime after they released Kurupt's Greatest Hits CD. Not sure though...
Bungalo released that.
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See, I'd like to believe all that, but that news isn't new... They been saying that since this summer and before. This is just re-updating us about a previous update. Feel me?
Just being real... Crook got to address the situation himself, no more third parties.
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hopefully he ain't fuckin around this time
i thought treacherous already had distribution with universal, why u need another label :-\
can't wait to see NWA video
no point in shooting a vid to that though unless u got ur album 100% good 2 go, and that ain't the case if u still lookin for a distribution deal
what up lunatic? nah I think Treacherous lost their distribution deal sometime after they released Kurupt's Greatest Hits CD. Not sure though...
what it do dimos, i see u homie
oo shit that i did not know
and yea like someone said bungalo dropped that kurupt i think
maybe they lost it after the k.young album??
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^^ I got Kurupt's greatest hits CD. Treacherous/Bungalo released it there are both logos on the back cover and it says "executively produced by Tico Khrimian and Jeff Myatt"
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I think treacherous bought out Antra and put out the Kurupt greatest hits album after the company went belly up.
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^^ I got Kurupt's greatest hits CD. Treacherous/Bungalo released it there are both logos on the back cover and it says "executively produced by Tico Khrimian and Jeff Myatt"
o ok, my bad
Tico does own treacherous, so that makes sense
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He told him that he had a lot of distribution deals on the table and that he's just taking his time to make the right decision.
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DJ Age told us on the Dynasty forums that he called Crooked I... He told him that he had a lot of distribution deals on the table and that he's just taking his time to make the right decision.
Taking his time? Well there's an understatement.
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this foo says the same shit about waiting for the right time just fucken release your fucken cd allrdy
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i guess he's probably being extra cautious picking a deal since we know how his other label contracts have gone
as long as in the end he picks the right label & we get b.o.s.s i can wait for now
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cant some of you see the real picture here? Crooked I has no buzz to release an album yet. Besides this forum and a few websites and real hiphop heads, there is nothing buzzing around him for him to drop an album. If he drops album this year, it will flop due to the current state of westcoast support in the industry.
Its so fucked up these days its unbelievable
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cant some of you see the real picture here? Crooked I has no buzz to release an album yet. Besides this forum and a few websites and real hiphop heads, there is nothing buzzing around him for him to drop an album. If he drops album this year, it will flop due to the current state of westcoast support in the industry.
Its so fucked up these days its unbelievable
then he should forget about sales and do what Dj muggs and Sick Jacken did. And just release a dope album and forget about becoming the next 50 cent.
Just release dope music. The Dj muggs and Sick Jacken album came out and its been getting great reviews.
Thats whats wrong wit hiphop. Everybody doesnt want to work their way up. Its all about the money and fame for them.
Crooked i been through this for about 10 years and he still dont get it.
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cant some of you see the real picture here? Crooked I has no buzz to release an album yet. Besides this forum and a few websites and real hiphop heads, there is nothing buzzing around him for him to drop an album. If he drops album this year, it will flop due to the current state of westcoast support in the industry.
Its so fucked up these days its unbelievable
then he should forget about sales and do what Dj muggs and Sick Jacken did. And just release a dope album and forget about becoming the next 50 cent.
Just release dope music. The Dj muggs and Sick Jacken album came out and its been getting great reviews.
Thats whats wrong wit hiphop. Everybody doesnt want to work their way up. Its all about the money and fame for them.
Crooked i been through this for about 10 years and he still dont get it.
+1
I really wish Crooked I would read your post. And that idea about releasing an album full of dope songs without worrying about the sales is exactly what I've been saying for years. Crooked I would earn a lot of respect for doing that.
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cant some of you see the real picture here? Crooked I has no buzz to release an album yet. Besides this forum and a few websites and real hiphop heads, there is nothing buzzing around him for him to drop an album. If he drops album this year, it will flop due to the current state of westcoast support in the industry.
Its so fucked up these days its unbelievable
Crooked I was on the cover of the last issue of XXL. He's also featured in a French magazine (article in my sign). This magazine is also looking for an interview with him. I sometimes speak with someone whos doing album reviews for this magazine and he keeps on tellin me "what up? have you heard this weeks hip hop weekly?" or "when is he gonna release the album?" The one who wrote the Crooked I article is their chief editor and every issue of the mag sells about 50 000 copies in the newstands and its also a good seller digitally. They also put NWA in their top singles of the moment in the mag. I got a lot of friends out here in France who know about Crooked I since the Death Row days too... Trust me the buzz is big. The only problem is that he still hasn't released an album, thats all. Im not sayin that hes gonna blow up like a 50 Cent or whatever and that every radio will play his music but he could sell a good amount copies im sure of that.
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It's obvious what Crooked I's problem is. He living some wild fantasy that he will blow up like crazy and go multiplat. When the biggest rap stars like Kanye, 50 and Jay are having a hard time going 2x plat and even Justin with all his hits, is barely at 3x plat, that is completley unrealistic.
Crooked I should do what Jim Jones did. Release album on Koch, hope for one of the singles to pick up (NWA could have done that) and than sign to a major.
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I agree with Timbo, something has got to be released or he will never get the shine he wants.
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I bet he got rejected by many deals. Shit, it doesn't take that long to make a decent deal.
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It's obvious what Crooked I's problem is. He living some wild fantasy that he will blow up like crazy and go multiplat. When the biggest rap stars like Kanye, 50 and Jay are having a hard time going 2x plat and even Justin with all his hits, is barely at 3x plat, that is completley unrealistic.
Crooked I should do what Jim Jones did. Release album on Koch, hope for one of the singles to pick up (NWA could have done that) and than sign to a major.
yeah I agree
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cant some of you see the real picture here? Crooked I has no buzz to release an album yet. Besides this forum and a few websites and real hiphop heads, there is nothing buzzing around him for him to drop an album. If he drops album this year, it will flop due to the current state of westcoast support in the industry.
Its so fucked up these days its unbelievable
Crooked I was on the cover of the last issue of XXL. He's also featured in a French magazine (article in my sign). This magazine is also looking for an interview with him. I sometimes speak with someone whos doing album reviews for this magazine and he keeps on tellin me "what up? have you heard this weeks hip hop weekly?" or "when is he gonna release the album?" The one who wrote the Crooked I article is their chief editor and every issue of the mag sells about 50 000 copies in the newstands and its also a good seller digitally. They also put NWA in their top singles of the moment in the mag. I got a lot of friends out here in France who know about Crooked I since the Death Row days too... Trust me the buzz is big. The only problem is that he still hasn't released an album, thats all. Im not sayin that hes gonna blow up like a 50 Cent or whatever and that every radio will play his music but he could sell a good amount copies im sure of that.
Crooked I does not have a big buzz. If he did, he would have an album comming out real soon, and a major record label backing him. Record labels are in the business to make money. Crooked I will not sell units, its as simple as that. I think he is a great rapper, but I know that he is not going to sell records. Tray Deee is my favorite rapper, and I know that if someone he ever gets a solo album out, its not gonna sell shit. Just because you don't sell records, doesn't mean that you don't make dope music, and vice versa. Don't get me wrong, if I was in crooked I's position I would want to sell a million records too...but I would face reality. Might as well put the album out independently, make some money, gain respect of real hip hop heads, and not worry about blowing up and becoming a famous rapper...whats wrong with that?
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It's obvious what Crooked I's problem is. He living some wild fantasy that he will blow up like crazy and go multiplat. When the biggest rap stars like Kanye, 50 and Jay are having a hard time going 2x plat and even Justin with all his hits, is barely at 3x plat, that is completley unrealistic.
Crooked I should do what Jim Jones did. Release album on Koch, hope for one of the singles to pick up (NWA could have done that) and than sign to a major.
on point 8)
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All you guy here are hiphop heads and fans but UNFORTUNATELY you all dont count as the masses. A buzz is someone who is HOT and has a HIT single that is popular even to ashley in the suburbs or Abdul in Iran or Kofi on the tree in Kenya. Thats what HOT and crooked I isnt hot. He may be hot to hiphop fans but not all hiphop fans buy hiphop albums. Times have changed people.
Like the homeboy said above, he should just drop good music and not give a fuck about whatever happens. But you know what that means at the end of the day?
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yup^^. i dont know how you guys define buzz, but crooked i aint got nothin right now.
A French magazine that features him and wants to interview him , does not equal buzz.
He doesn't even have a solid buzz or foundation in los angeles/west coast... which is where he needs to start out at.
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yup^^. i dont know how you guys define buzz, but crooked i aint got nothin right now.
A French magazine that features him and wants to interview him , does not equal buzz.
He doesn't even have a solid buzz or foundation in los angeles/west coast... which is where he needs to start out at.
the west aint even a gd place to start out for anyone...
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True but the majors dropped the ball in not recognising the potential hit status of that recent club type song from Crooked I. However yeah if things are not finally going to get into motion then he might as well stop right now. These continuous weekly freestyles are pointing when he is not accompanying any of this with an album.. It does leave a bad taste in the mouth though when someone like Uncle Murda has a strong buzz and yet Crooked I who also has a street cred and is head and shoulders above him in terms of talent goes unnoticed.
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It's obvious what Crooked I's problem is. He living some wild fantasy that he will blow up like crazy and go multiplat. When the biggest rap stars like Kanye, 50 and Jay are having a hard time going 2x plat and even Justin with all his hits, is barely at 3x plat, that is completley unrealistic.
That's the biggest nonsense I've read in this thread. I think the sole reason Crooked I doesn't bring out shit is that he's a terrible business person.
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It's obvious what Crooked I's problem is. He living some wild fantasy that he will blow up like crazy and go multiplat. When the biggest rap stars like Kanye, 50 and Jay are having a hard time going 2x plat and even Justin with all his hits, is barely at 3x plat, that is completley unrealistic.
That's the biggest nonsense I've read in this thread. I think the sole reason Crooked I doesn't bring out shit is that he's a terrible business person.
yeah don't think Crook cares about sales since nobody is really selling these days
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Crooked I should do what Jim Jones did. Release album on Koch, hope for one of the singles to pick up (NWA could have done that) and than sign to a major.
What is it with rappers on Koch Records?
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Crooked I should do what Jim Jones did. Release album on Koch, hope for one of the singles to pick up (NWA could have done that) and than sign to a major.
I've been saying stuff similar to this for years...
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It's obvious what Crooked I's problem is. He living some wild fantasy that he will blow up like crazy and go multiplat. When the biggest rap stars like Kanye, 50 and Jay are having a hard time going 2x plat and even Justin with all his hits, is barely at 3x plat, that is completley unrealistic.
Crooked I should do what Jim Jones did. Release album on Koch, hope for one of the singles to pick up (NWA could have done that) and than sign to a major.
co-sign .. why call yourself Timbo? he garbage ...
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Out of all the homies I have, probably only 1 or 2 know about Crooked I. And I'm in L.A. He has no presence out here. He's not doing shows. He's not on the radio. He's nowhere. Crooked I has NO buzz. On the net, yes. But most people on the net will just bootleg his shit. The XXL Mag was a good look, but it wasn't like that Cover was JUST him. It was a gang of dudes. And someone as small as Crooked I got lost in the shuffle of bigger names with hits currently rotating on the radio.
He FLOPPED with So Damn Hood. He FLOPPED with Still Tha Row. He FLOPPED with Boom Boom Clap. NWA is def not a good choice for a single IMO. The beat is hot, but the hook was garbage. This game is driven by hooks right now, Crooked I doesn't really have the hook game down. I don't know... I was a big fan of this dude way back when he first came out with C Style and then when he hooked up with Sway & Tech I really started to dig what he brought to the tabel as far as an emcee goes. But now, at this point, dude is kinda played out.
I'm tired of hearing that he's waiting for the right time etc. etc. The right time will be when he finally has his product ready. When he's finally doing shows in L.A. on a regular basis to promote his product. Hopping on the radio to promote his product. Picking a single with the right amount of mainstream appeal, keeping in mind that he does NOT have to make a Club banger to make a hit, he could make a song that has some meaning, with a crossover appeal. Frankly, I don't think he's right for Club joints. He's not that type of emcee. He's proven that as he's yet to make a joint that bangs in the Club.
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It's obvious what Crooked I's problem is. He living some wild fantasy that he will blow up like crazy and go multiplat. When the biggest rap stars like Kanye, 50 and Jay are having a hard time going 2x plat and even Justin with all his hits, is barely at 3x plat, that is completley unrealistic.
Crooked I should do what Jim Jones did. Release album on Koch, hope for one of the singles to pick up (NWA could have done that) and than sign to a major.
co-sign .. why call yourself Timbo? he garbage ...
LOL
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still waiting for an album... 8)
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He FLOPPED with So Damn Hood. He FLOPPED with Still Tha Row. He FLOPPED with Boom Boom Clap. NWA is def not a good choice for a single IMO.
In all fairness to Crook, back when So Damn Hood premiered I knew plenty of people that were feeling that song and spinning it at parties and all that and they weren't even West Coast fans. Same with Boom Boom Clap, I really never heard anyone say anything bad about it. I think it's not the music, it's the promotion and business moves.
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Only person I knew that liked So Damn Hood was my bro. I was heavy into Clubbing at that time, I never heard that shit at Clubs. Same goes with Boom Boom Clap. And, like I said, I'm in L.A. So how can you not get major spins in your city? Does Crooked I not know any Club DJs? I'm sure he does. I'm sure he knows Radio DJ's too. If his labels weren't pushing it, he could've done so himself. Boom Boom Clap was a cool video, but being a virtual no name to the public, he could've brought in some bigger names for cameos instead of Big Syke... LMAO. Ultimately, I don't think Crooked I put forth the effort needed and he relied too much on the label to that work for him. Was it the promotion? Of course. But he made the decision of signing to a dying Deathrow and an upstart Treacherous. He could've found a deal with a proven label... but he decided to go to labels that either had a lot of misses under their belt at that point or a label that had no hits under it's belt. At the same talking, you can easily blame the music. So many artists have blown up without any Promo behind them. It takes a good single to catch on. So yes, it's the music. It's obviously not catching on commercially, which is what Crooked I was aiming at.