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Title: Sesame Street Was Not Intended For Todays Children.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 20, 2007, 11:41:38 AM
Sweeping the Clouds Away (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/magazine/18wwln-medium-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1)

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By VIRGINIA HEFFERNAN
Published: November 18, 2007

Sunny days! The earliest episodes of “Sesame Street” are available on digital video! Break out some Keebler products, fire up the DVD player and prepare for the exquisite pleasure-pain of top-shelf nostalgia.

Just don’t bring the children. According to an earnest warning on Volumes 1 and 2, “Sesame Street: Old School” is adults-only: “These early ‘Sesame Street’ episodes are intended for grown-ups, and may not suit the needs of today’s preschool child.”

Say what? At a recent all-ages home screening, a hush fell over the room. “What did they do to us?” asked one Gen-X mother of two, finally. The show rolled, and the sweet trauma came flooding back. What they did to us was hard-core. Man, was that scene rough. The masonry on the dingy brownstone at 123 Sesame Street, where the closeted Ernie and Bert shared a dismal basement apartment, was deteriorating. Cookie Monster was on a fast track to diabetes. Oscar’s depression was untreated. Prozacky Elmo didn’t exist.

Nothing in the children’s entertainment of today, candy-colored animation hopped up on computer tricks, can prepare young or old for this frightening glimpse of simpler times. Back then — as on the very first episode, which aired on PBS Nov. 10, 1969 — a pretty, lonely girl like Sally might find herself befriended by an older male stranger who held her hand and took her home. Granted, Gordon just wanted Sally to meet his wife and have some milk and cookies, but . . . well, he could have wanted anything. As it was, he fed her milk and cookies. The milk looks dangerously whole.

Live-action cows also charge the 1969 screen — cows eating common grass, not grain improved with hormones. Cows are milked by plain old farmers, who use their unsanitary hands and fill one bucket at a time. Elsewhere, two brothers risk concussion while whaling on each other with allergenic feather pillows. Overweight layabouts, lacking touch-screen iPods and headphones, jockey for airtime with their deafening transistor radios. And one of those radios plays a late-’60s news report — something about a “senior American official” and “two billion in credit over the next five years” — that conjures a bleak economic climate, with war debt and stagflation in the offing.

The old “Sesame Street” is not for the faint of heart, and certainly not for softies born since 1998, when the chipper “Elmo’s World” started. Anyone who considers bull markets normal, extracurricular activities sacrosanct and New York a tidy, governable place — well, the original “Sesame Street” might hurt your feelings.

I asked Carol-Lynn Parente, the executive producer of “Sesame Street,” how exactly the first episodes were unsuitable for toddlers in 2007. She told me about Alistair Cookie and the parody “Monsterpiece Theater.” Alistair Cookie, played by Cookie Monster, used to appear with a pipe, which he later gobbled. According to Parente, “That modeled the wrong behavior” — smoking, eating pipes — “so we reshot those scenes without the pipe, and then we dropped the parody altogether.”

Which brought Parente to a feature of “Sesame Street” that had not been reconstructed: the chronically mood-disordered Oscar the Grouch. On the first episode, Oscar seems irredeemably miserable — hypersensitive, sarcastic, misanthropic. (Bert, too, is described as grouchy; none of the characters, in fact, is especially sunshiney except maybe Ernie, who also seems slow.) “We might not be able to create a character like Oscar now,” she said.

Snuffleupagus is visible only to Big Bird; since 1985, all the characters can see him, as Big Bird’s old protestations that he was not hallucinating came to seem a little creepy, not to mention somewhat strained. As for Cookie Monster, he can be seen in the old-school episodes in his former inglorious incarnation: a blue, googly-eyed cookievore with a signature gobble (“om nom nom nom”). Originally designed by Jim Henson for use in commercials for General Foods International and Frito-Lay, Cookie Monster was never a righteous figure. His controversial conversion to a more diverse diet wouldn’t come until 2005, and in the early seasons he comes across a Child’s First Addict.

The biggest surprise of the early episodes is the rural — agrarian, even — sequences. Episode 1 spends a stoned time warp in the company of backlighted cows, while they mill around and chew cud. This pastoral scene rolls to an industrial voiceover explaining dairy farms, and the sleepy chords of Joe Raposo’s aimless masterpiece, “Hey Cow, I See You Now.” Chewing the grass so green/Making the milk/Waiting for milking time/Waiting for giving time/Mmmmm.

Oh, what’s that? Right, the trance of early “Sesame Street” and its country-time sequences. In spite of the show’s devotion to its “target child,” the “4-year-old inner-city black youngster” (as The New York Times explained in 1979), the first episodes join kids cavorting in amber waves of grain — black children, mostly, who must be pressed into service as the face of America’s farms uniquely on “Sesame Street.”

In East Harlem and Bedford-Stuyvesant in 1978, 95 percent of households with kids ages 2 to 5 watched “Sesame Street.” The figure was even higher in Washington. Nationwide, though, the number wasn’t much lower, and was largely determined by the whims of the PBS affiliates: 80 percent in houses with young children. The so-called inner city became anywhere that “Sesame Street” played, because the Children’s Television Workshop declared the inner city not a grim sociological reality but a full-color fantasy — an eccentric scene, framed by a box and far removed from real farmland and city streets alike.

The concept of the “inner city” — or “slums,” as The Times bluntly put it in its first review of “Sesame Street” — was therefore transformed into a kind of Xanadu on the show: a bright, no-clouds, clear-air place where people bopped around with monsters and didn’t worry too much about money, cleanliness or projecting false cheer. The Upper West Side, hardly a burned-out ghetto, was said to be the model.

People on “Sesame Street” had limited possibilities and fixed identities, and (the best part) you weren’t expected to change much. The harshness of existence was a given, and no one was proposing that numbers and letters would lead you “out” of your inner city to Elysian suburbs. Instead, “Sesame Street” suggested that learning might merely make our days more bearable, more interesting, funnier. It encouraged us, above all, to be nice to our neighbors and to cultivate the safer pleasures that take the edge off — taking baths, eating cookies, reading. Don’t tell the kids.


Basically, todays children are bitch.
Title: Re: Sesame Street Was Not Intended For Todays Children.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on November 20, 2007, 11:52:27 AM
i was raised on sesame street and mr rogers neighborhood
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Post by: Don Jacob on November 20, 2007, 02:25:12 PM
i guess. stupid politicians had to go and make everything Politically correct.
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Post by: Piffmeister2008 on November 21, 2007, 04:25:32 AM
I thought sesame street used to be for kids who had learning disabilities? But then it turned out to be populair among all kids, not only with slow learning the kids.
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Post by: Borat Sagdiyev on November 21, 2007, 06:44:28 AM
I have not heard of this Sesame Streets.  Sounds like a bad part of town.  I've very happy Kazakhstan day care is best in country.  Why the Bert and Ernie puppets homosexuals? 
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Post by: Piffmeister2008 on November 21, 2007, 06:56:45 AM
lol, who's this clown?
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Post by: Borat Sagdiyev on November 21, 2007, 07:17:06 AM
I don't know what clown you are speaking about, but my name a Borat.  I like you.
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Post by: Mr. O on November 21, 2007, 07:18:53 AM
I have not heard of this Sesame Streets.  Sounds like a bad part of town.  I've very happy Kazakhstan day care is best in country.  Why the Bert and Ernie puppets homosexuals? 

LOL>...LMAO.. HAHAH    :D
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Post by: Piffmeister2008 on November 21, 2007, 07:27:00 AM
I don't know what clown you are speaking about, but my name a Borat.  I like you.

Don't get me wrong, I like clowns!
Title: Re: Sesame Street Was Not Intended For Todays Children.
Post by: Styles1 on November 21, 2007, 01:21:58 PM
LMAO... this is funny. Today you probably wouldn't have a frog like Kermit romantically involved with a pig like Missy Piggy.... which always led to the joke: "What's long, green and smells like Miss Piggy? Kermits finger!"
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Post by: Borat Sagdiyev on November 21, 2007, 03:17:48 PM
That a very funny joke.  Can I share with my friends?
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Post by: Styles1 on November 21, 2007, 04:12:33 PM
That a very funny joke.  Can I share with my friends?

Sure thing... just be sure to use a small drum roll with a cymbol crash at the end.

For example: My wife asked me to take her somewhere that she's never been before. So I said, "Sure! Try the Kitchen!" (Insert Drum Roll & Cymbol Crash)   
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Post by: everlast1986 on November 21, 2007, 07:22:01 PM
fucking holy rollers
Title: Re: Sesame Street Was Not Intended For Todays Children.
Post by: Piffmeister2008 on November 22, 2007, 05:51:52 AM
That a very funny joke.  Can I share with my friends?

Sure thing... just be sure to use a small drum roll with a cymbol crash at the end.

For example: My wife asked me to take her somewhere that she's never been before. So I said, "Sure! Try the Kitchen!" (Insert Drum Roll & Cymbol Crash)   

I've heard better ones in my life...
Title: Re: Sesame Street Was Not Intended For Todays Children.
Post by: Styles1 on November 22, 2007, 09:09:26 AM
That a very funny joke.  Can I share with my friends?

Sure thing... just be sure to use a small drum roll with a cymbol crash at the end.

For example: My wife asked me to take her somewhere that she's never been before. So I said, "Sure! Try the Kitchen!" (Insert Drum Roll & Cymbol Crash)   

you forgot the small drum roll and the cymbol crash.... :)

But seriously... that was from Goodfellas... right after that comic says, "Please! Take my wife!"

I've heard better ones in my life...
Title: Re: Sesame Street Was Not Intended For Todays Children.
Post by: es-jay on November 22, 2007, 09:51:06 AM
lol. the world is certainly a different place these days, i grew up watching Sesame Street and i never thought anything bad of it... i might pick up one of the DVDs for the memories.
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Post by: Styles1 on November 22, 2007, 10:14:55 AM
Rather children should be shown the episode of Big Bird having the Bird Flu on Robot Chicken....
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Post by: Piffmeister2008 on November 23, 2007, 10:48:18 AM
^ true that
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Post by: white Boy on November 23, 2007, 01:14:09 PM
people are too sensitive nowadays, gotta read into everything too much and ruin it
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Post by: thisoneguy360 on November 23, 2007, 08:37:12 PM
people are too sensitive nowadays, gotta read into everything too much and ruin it
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Post by: .:TimeLock:. on November 24, 2007, 03:13:26 AM
NIK i know u seen dave chappelle's sesame street skits and stand up about it he broke it down :D
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 24, 2007, 12:37:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/aUmYGLIubho
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Post by: Boba Fettucini on November 24, 2007, 09:57:07 PM
WTF? was this article from the Onion or something?
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 24, 2007, 10:03:47 PM
^LOL...NY Times.
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Post by: Piffmeister2008 on November 26, 2007, 07:35:05 AM
people are too sensitive nowadays, gotta read into everything too much and ruin it

do you have children? :P
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Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 26, 2007, 08:08:05 AM
i grew up watching that show! so many memories !!!
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Post by: white Boy on November 26, 2007, 12:15:20 PM
^ no, but good parenting does not involve blinding your kids from watching stuff, but explaining things to them.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 26, 2007, 12:17:07 PM
LOL...Xander's not gunna let his children watch "Sesame Street"...wait a mintue... Xander with children? What the fuck was I thinking...
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Post by: Piffmeister2008 on November 27, 2007, 06:25:39 AM
LOL...Xander's not gunna let his children watch "Sesame Street"...wait a mintue... Xander with children? What the fuck was I thinking...

With you as my bitch, everything's possible.
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Post by: Borat Sagdiyev on November 27, 2007, 09:20:16 AM
Mr. Bitch-Made Faggot Killa Shot Caller, a why Piffmeister2008 call you a bitch?  I have not seen a problems with postings made by a you.
Title: Re: Sesame Street Was Not Intended For Todays Children.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 27, 2007, 04:22:31 PM
Because he looks like this...


(http://85.17.151.104/117650001-117700000/117676801-117676900/117676827_5_dKsm.jpeg)
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Post by: Borat Sagdiyev on November 28, 2007, 04:30:46 AM
Fuck!  His a mother should have seen our town mechanic/abortionist.
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Post by: Piffmeister2008 on November 28, 2007, 05:55:18 AM
Because he looks like this...


(http://85.17.151.104/117650001-117700000/117676801-117676900/117676827_5_dKsm.jpeg)

let's not start on looks, cause I know you're not that nice looking yourself either.
Title: Re: Sesame Street Was Not Intended For Todays Children.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 28, 2007, 01:09:15 PM
Because he looks like this...


(http://85.17.151.104/117650001-117700000/117676801-117676900/117676827_5_dKsm.jpeg)

let's not start on looks, cause I know you're not that nice looking yourself either.


Actually, I got model looks...so next time you wanna feel better about your deformed mug, try something concrete, Xander ol' pal.
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Post by: Narrator on November 29, 2007, 07:44:28 AM
Mr. Bitch-Made Faggot Killa Shot Caller, a why Piffmeister2008 call you a bitch?  I have not seen a problems with postings made by a you.

Now_I_Know, Mr. Bitch-Made Faggot Killa Shot Caller, is a Jew.  He is also a homosexual who wants to make sexytime with Kobe Bryant.  You do not want to associate yourself with him, as he is the most hated person on this site because he is Jewish and involve in fagdom.
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Post by: Borat Sagdiyev on November 29, 2007, 08:55:00 AM
This not good.  Piffmeister2008 must watch his anoos when around Kobe Bryants boyfriend.
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Post by: Narrator on November 29, 2007, 09:29:14 AM
This not good.  Piffmeister2008 must watch his anoos when around Kobe Bryants boyfriend.

Exactly.  The only thing that can come for anyone associating themselves with Elior is social ostracism.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 29, 2007, 01:30:06 PM
^The funny thing about all this is that one of you is an alias for comedic value and one of you is hiding behind a personality you would never project in reality.


*Bumps Blood Of Abraham Feat. Eazy-E - "Niggaz And Jewz" while laughing at the cracker*
Title: Re: Sesame Street Was Not Intended For Todays Children.
Post by: Narrator on November 29, 2007, 01:39:11 PM
one of you is an alias for comedic value and one of you is hiding behind a personality you would never project in reality.

Wow, that comparison makes so little sense it's not even funny.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 29, 2007, 03:27:12 PM
What makes no sense? That you can't be yourself because you know you're a worthless little boy?
Title: Re: Sesame Street Was Not Intended For Todays Children.
Post by: Narrator on November 29, 2007, 03:43:33 PM
What makes no sense? That you can't be yourself because you know you're a worthless little boy?

No, your comparison says essentially the same two things.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 29, 2007, 11:39:46 PM
Fagay, quit avoiding my point...You know who you are, son.
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Post by: Narrator on December 01, 2007, 12:55:40 PM
Fagay, quit avoiding my point...You know who you are, son.

I'm not a kike or a fag, that's for sure.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 01, 2007, 03:25:37 PM
But you're definitely a Mitchel...
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Post by: Narrator on December 01, 2007, 05:40:54 PM
But you're definitely a Mitchel...

Nope.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on December 02, 2007, 11:52:36 AM
"There's a lot of slinky 'niggaz' where I come from..."