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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Lunatic on November 20, 2007, 01:56:25 PM
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What it do y'all? I'm sure most of y'all remember pt.1 about jay-z. After checkin out Jigga's discography, i thought i'd move onto another New York heavyweight, Nas.
Illmatic - 9.8/10 I had always heard this was THE hip-hop album...greatest album of all time and so on. When I decided to listen to it, my hopes were extremely high. And god dammit, was they met!! Nas is an MC, and he was in a ZONE during the making of this album. Nas + in a zone = DANGEROUS. This shit is the greatest hip-hop album that i've ever personally heard, and probably of all time.
Top 5 Tracks
N.Y State Of Mind
Memory Lane
Halftime
One Time 4 Your Mind
It Ain't Hard To Tell
Weaker Cuts
None.
It Was Written - 9.6/10 So this is the sophomore. sophomore jinx? How do u follow up an album like illmatic? These were some of the questions I had going into this album. I quickly saw there was nothing to worry over, Nas didn't really lose his touch at all (i don't think he did, but that was for the haters who was gon say "then how come illmatic got .2 better"??) lol. This album is the best possible way to follow up such a dope debut.
Top 5 Tracks
Suspect
If I Ruled The World
Affirmative Action
The Set Up
I Gave You Power
Weaker Cuts
None.
I Am... - 9.1/10 Third album, still goin amazingly strong. This album has a few cuts that ain't as good as the rest, that's the ONLY downfall (somethin that i didn't think of his previous 2 efforts).
Top 5 Tracks
Small World
Favor For a Favor
Hate Me Now
N.Y State Of Mind Pt. 2
Undying Love
Weaker Cuts
Big Things
Money Is My Bitch
Nastradamus - 8.5/10 I had heard this was one his weaker albums. And although still pretty good, doesn't even touch his fist 3 albums. I also heard this album was a bit rushed, and i'd probably have to agree with that statement. Far from wack though.
Top 5 Tracks
Life We Chose
Come Get Me
Last Words
Big Girl
Nastradamus
Weaker Cuts
Some Of Us Have Angels
Family
You Owe Me
Stillmatic - 9.2/10 What a strong come-back after a weaker effort. For me, this one is in his top 3. Even better than the "I Am" album, but not touching his first 2 efforts. Filled with lyrical gems though, and the beats are nuts. One Mic might be on of the best rap beats ever, shit is nuts. So many crazy tracks. From the fierce Jay-z diss to the hella creative & cool "rewind".
Top 5 Tracks
One Mic
Ether
Got Yourself a Gun
Rewind
Intro
Weaker Cuts
Rule
Braveheart Party
God's Son - 8.2/10 Lots of dope tracks, but also filled with more weak and average ones than you're average nas albums. Really a hit or miss album.
Top 5 Tracks
The Cross
Last Real N*igga Alive
Thugz Mansion
Get Down
Dance
Weaker Cuts
Zone Out (One of the worse nas tracks)
Hey Nas
Warrior Song
Street's Disciple - 7.9/10 Easily the worse Nas album of all time. As you can see by the rating still not bad, but not sure what the heck he was thinkin with this one. Should add that U.B.R is a dope track, but not in my top 5.
Top 5 Tracks
Just a Moment
Suicide Bounce
Bridging The Gap
Thief's Theme
War
Weaker Cuts
Nazareth Savage
These Are Our Heroes
You Know My Style
Makings Of a Perfect Bitch
Getting Married
No One Else In The Room (THE worse nas song)
Hip-Hop Is Dead - 8.8/10 Also went into this album with lots of hype. All the "classic" sayings & 10/10 reviews given out by the fans & critics got me hyped. I think it's a dope album, much better than his previous 2 efforts, but still far from classic. And don't come to me with that "maybe the hype was just to much" because the hype for me was even bigger for illmatic, and no problems there. Damn good hip-hop albums in a time were they're ain't a whole lot, (although 2007 has been a damn good year) but far from classic.
Top 5 Tracks
Hip-Hop Is Dead
Black Republicans
Still Dreamin
Hustlers
Money Over Bullshit/Not Going Back
Weaker Cuts
Who Killed It? (the FUCK was he thinkin??)
Bty, I also listened to his "lost tapes" and thought it was better than street's disciple, god's son & nastradamus lol. That shit got some gems on it (Nothing lasts forever, Doo Rags, No Idea's Original, Purple, Black Zombies, & Fetus).
All in all, Nas is easily top 3-5 rappers all time, and for the most part his discography is very impressive. Kinda like a roller coaster, but it don't go down to far, and takes u up really high. I'm out y'all.
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Dope shit, Luna! But even though I'm cosigning it all ;)
Stillmatic - 9.2/10
Weaker Cuts
Braveheart Party
What ? What kinda version of Stillmatic do u posses?
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Dope shit, Luna! But even though I'm cosigning it all ;)
Stillmatic - 9.2/10
Weaker Cuts
Braveheart Party
What ? What kinda version of Stillmatic do u posses?
thanks man, +1
my bad, i meant to type "Rule"
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Dope shit, Luna! But even though I'm cosigning it all ;)
Stillmatic - 9.2/10
Weaker Cuts
Braveheart Party
What ? What kinda version of Stillmatic do u posses?
thanks man, +1
my bad, i meant to type "Rule"
Ah, ait, I was about to start hyperventilating :P
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good review...u didnt lik "who killed it" on hip hop is dead? my freind showed me this thing, where they break it down line by line and say what he means...after reading that it wasnt so bad 8)
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dub: lol thanks for pointing that it out, got it fixed asap
chamill: nah, the voice he used was wack
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Wow.. Rule is sick. I don't know how you can't like that... then again you didn't like Jay's "The Prelude" either...
HHiD is a classic, imo. Top 3 of 06 for sure.
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Wow.. Rule is sick. I don't know how you can't like that... then again you didn't like Jay's "The Prelude" either...
HHiD is a classic, imo. Top 3 of 06 for sure.
yea, different tastes i get
that's the beauty of an artist like jigga or nas..u may like a song i think is weak or wack, or maybe jut average
no way that a classic...it is top 3 of 06, but still wasn't a classic
opinions i guess
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The only songs I didn't like were Who Killed It and Where Are They Know (the remixes of that joint are SICK! though)
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I don't understand how anyone can like "I Am...". I'm not knocking your opinion or anything (if you like it that's good for you) but seriously, that CD for me has only like 4 good tracks, maybe 5 & Money Is My Bitch is one of them.
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I don't understand how anyone can like "I Am...". I'm not knocking your opinion or anything (if you like it that's good for you) but seriously, that CD for me has only like 4 good tracks, maybe 5 & Money Is My Bitch is one of them.
and i don't understand how u don't :o :o :o
not knockin you're opinion either, but DAMN homie
small world & favor for a favor - easily 2 of nas' dopest tracks ever
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Nas is Like not a top 5 track on I Am... ???
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Nas is Like not a top 5 track on I Am... ???
hella good song, but nope
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Stillmatic - 9.2/10
Weaker Cuts
Braveheart Party
What ? What kinda version of Stillmatic do u posses?
I don't get this post. Maybe something was really changed in the edit but what is wrong with putting "Braveheart Party" as one of the weaker songs?
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Stillmatic - 9.2/10
Weaker Cuts
Braveheart Party
What ? What kinda version of Stillmatic do u posses?
I don't get this post. Maybe something was really changed in the edit but what is wrong with putting "Braveheart Party" as one of the weaker songs?
i'm actually a bit confused myself lol now that i think bout it
i meant to type rule as one of the weaker cuts, but i also just noticed somethin...
the stillmatic album that i just copped recently doesn't have no braveheart party song on it, BUT my downloaded version on my CPU does
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It's because "Braveheart Party" was on the original version of Stillmatic but later on after it was released the song was removed from future pressings of the album. Mary J didn't want it on the album anymore for some reason and I guess the record company let it happen.
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It's because "Braveheart Party" was on the original version of Stillmatic but later on after it was released the song was removed from future pressings of the album. Mary J didn't want it on the album anymore for some reason and I guess the record company let it happen.
thanks for the clear up
+1
edited to include it on the "weaker cuts" portion
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Stillmatic - 9.2/10
Weaker Cuts
Braveheart Party
What ? What kinda version of Stillmatic do u posses?
I don't get this post. Maybe something was really changed in the edit but what is wrong with putting "Braveheart Party" as one of the weaker songs?
Well, I have the retail version - copped it when it came out. And that song ain't on it.. Hell - I've never heard of that track
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loved the Hip Hop is Dead album but don't like "who killed it" either maybe he was trying to do some concept type rap but the voice was weird :-\
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Well, I have the retail version - copped it when it came out. And that song ain't on it.. Hell - I've never heard of that track
You must have got a later version, I got it right away and it was on every copy, google reviews for the album, you'll see.
(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6153/dscn0967yj2.jpg)
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loved the Hip Hop is Dead album but don't like "who killed it" either maybe he was trying to do some concept type rap but the voice was weird :-\
lol the voice was great, sounded lik sum 70-80's gangster 8)
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loved the Hip Hop is Dead album but don't like "who killed it" either maybe he was trying to do some concept type rap but the voice was weird :-\
lol the voice was great, sounded lik sum 70-80's gangster 8)
lol that's what I didn't like about it, its all good though 8)
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loved the Hip Hop is Dead album but don't like "who killed it" either maybe he was trying to do some concept type rap but the voice was weird :-\
lol the voice was great, sounded lik sum 70-80's gangster 8)
lol that's what I didn't like about it, its all good though 8)
LOL i understand ;D
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loved the Hip Hop is Dead album but don't like "who killed it" either maybe he was trying to do some concept type rap but the voice was weird :-\
lol the voice was great, sounded lik sum 70-80's gangster 8)
uh, more like 40's italian mobster. the whole concept was based around a humphery bogart type narration. i felt it for the beat and lyrics, even though the voice was kinda overdoin it
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Illmatic is a 10 for me - There's no such thing as a perfect album but this, Chronic & Paid In Full are all 10's to me.
IWW is about an 8 for me. I can look back at the singles for IIRTW and Street Dreams and appreciate them now for nostalgia, but at the time I honestly wasn't feeling them. To this day, "Nas is Coming" is probably one of the most disappointing songs I'd ever heard. You take 2 guys behind 2 of Hip Hops best albums and you get this shit? Dre & Nas just didn't mesh well, the hook is TERRIBLE. Even Nas & Dre sound awkward on the intro. There are a few joints on here that I really like, those being: "The Message" "Watch Dem Niggas", "Take It In Blood", "Affirmative Action", "Black Girl Lost"
I am would be like a 7
Nastradamus like a 6
Stillmatic 9
Gods son - 8
Streets disciple - 8.5
HHID - 8
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I am would be like a 7
Nastradamus like a 6
Stillmatic 9
Gods son - 8
Streets disciple - 8.5
HHID - 8
damn at streets disciple ???
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Yeah I gots to roll with Streets Disciple. Dope shit, very innovative. Also now looking back I appreciate I Am alot more now. Oh and Luna what did you think of The Lost Tapes?
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I really liked Message to the Feds off Streets Disciple. It was so rebellious and had that slow military drum roll, very 1970's Oaklandish
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Yeah I gots to roll with Streets Disciple. Dope shit, very innovative. Also now looking back I appreciate I Am alot more now. Oh and Luna what did you think of The Lost Tapes?
mehh lol
easily his worse album for me
opinions though homie
yea i am... = dope LP
i spoke on lost tapes a bit there..very, very solid album. 8.5/10
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Yeah I gots to roll with Streets Disciple. Dope shit, very innovative. Also now looking back I appreciate I Am alot more now. Oh and Luna what did you think of The Lost Tapes?
mehh lol
easily his worse album for me
opinions though homie
yea i am... = dope LP
i spoke on lost tapes a bit there..very, very solid album. 8.5/10
I thought Nastradamus was his worse but yeah he easily has one of the best catalogs of all time.
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Yeah I gots to roll with Streets Disciple. Dope shit, very innovative. Also now looking back I appreciate I Am alot more now. Oh and Luna what did you think of The Lost Tapes?
mehh lol
easily his worse album for me
opinions though homie
yea i am... = dope LP
i spoke on lost tapes a bit there..very, very solid album. 8.5/10
I thought Nastradamus was his worse but yeah he easily has one of the best catalogs of all time.
true.
i got nastradamus as his 3rd worse..all good though 8)
easily 1 of the best catalogues of all time
bty y'all look out for pt.3 of this series.....the notorious b.i.g 8)
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Nastradamus is easily Nas' worst album & "Nas Is Like" is up there with his best joints ever.
Streets Disciple seriously has maybe 3 wack tracks. That album is criminally underrated.
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Yeah I am looking at Streets Disciple and IMO having a hard time finding more than 3 wack tracks. Nastradamus the good parts are great and the bad parts are horrible. Last Words is slept on though. How Nas raps as if he was a jail cell was dope. Come Get Me is another classic Premo combo.
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good review luna thanks for putting in the time to let everyone know whats up...i agree with the most part for you and illmatic is the best hip hop album but i would have lifes a bitch as a standout track & also the world is yours
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I'm gonna have to listen to I Am... one more time. Hopefully it'll grow on me.
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For me, 'Lost Tapes' after Illmatic is one of my favourite projects Nas put out.
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Well, I have the retail version - copped it when it came out. And that song ain't on it.. Hell - I've never heard of that track
You must have got a later version, I got it right away and it was on every copy, google reviews for the album, you'll see.
(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6153/dscn0967yj2.jpg)
Well, I live up at the North Pole, so I guess we didn't got that version ova here. lol
Streets Disciple seriously has maybe 3 wack tracks. That album is criminally underrated.
I guess it have something to do with the amount of tracks..
For me, 'Lost Tapes' after Illmatic is one of my favourite projects Nas put out.
Co sign
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gd review luna!
come get me = my fave premo beat ever...
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"Nas Is Like" is up there with his best joints ever.
This, and
illmatic is the best hip hop album but i would have lifes a bitch as a standout track & also the world is yours
This
Otherwise, good stuff.
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'who kiled it' is amazing in context with what he was trying to do/say artistically on that album. it's a murder mystery.
have you read the breakdown of the lyrics? he's doing amazing shit talking about the history of hip hop as a murder mystery and shit.
and it was written is a sophomore slump because of the production not the raps. he needs to fuck with Primo again.
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'who kiled it' is amazing in context with what he was trying to do/say artistically on that album. it's a murder mystery.
have you read the breakdown of the lyrics? he's doing amazing shit talking about the history of hip hop as a murder mystery and shit.
and it was written is a sophomore slump because of the production not the raps. he needs to fuck with Primo again.
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can you link to the breakdown of the lyrics?
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http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=129354.0
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thanks for all the comments y'all, positive or negative
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How in the fuck can you not name "Life's A Bitch" as one of the best tracks on Illmatic?!?!?!?! Thats the best rap song ever ya dig!!!
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How in the fuck can you not name "Life's A Bitch" as one of the best tracks on Illmatic?!?!?!?! Thats the best rap song ever ya dig!!!
that song is amazing but one of my least fave on illmatic, the sound doesn't fit on the record as much as others
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^^still is one of the best rap songs ever. AZ's verse might be the best verse in rap history.
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great breakdown Luna as always, I have to agree with some of the posters about "Life's A Bitch" definitely my favorite track off Illmatic and maybe one of the best tracks of all time AZ was :o on that but you did the damn thing again great read